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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
2437
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Posted - 2013.11.24 17:38:00 -
[4321] - Quote
Cass Caul wrote:
A nice little message from a CPM1-hopeful and retired Scout Appia Vibbia
This Appia Vibbia person appears to have been banned for failure to "play nice" with others.
1) Can this Appia Vibbia get herself un-banned?
2) Can this Appia Vibbia resist the urge to rage when engaging less-intelligent lifeforms?
3) Can this Appia Vibbia respond with poise when faced with a wrong or opposed position?
4) Can this Appia Vibbia offer assurances that she'd "play nice" with the Community if elected?
5) Can this Appia Vibbia offer assurances that she'd behave respectfully when engaging CCP?
I'd vote for Appia Vibbia in a heartbeat, provided she'd be willing to commit herself to being nice.
With all due respect, the only thing more noxious than an arse is an arse in power :-) |
Morathi III
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.11.24 18:45:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:To bring everyone up to speed on current Scout/CPM relations:
* IWS - On the same page as Scouts with respect to both weapon and role balance.
* Nova Knife - In-game activity has spiked since last build; comments in Scouts United from time to time.
* Laurent - Actively advocating for Scout buffs, namely to speed and evasive capability.
* Hans - Status / Positions unknown.
* Jenza - Status / Positions unknown.
Laurent: tied with Hand for most active CPM. A CEO. not gonna find a frenchie on the main English pages.
because English ppl cant speak french doesn't mean that frenchie can't speak english... Just saying |
Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
815
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Posted - 2013.11.24 18:57:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Wait... I just noticed...
Ishukone knives got NERFED?!?!?!
They only do 200 now. I thought they used to do 300!
Gah!
Nah, they've always been 200. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
155
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Posted - 2013.11.24 19:08:00 -
[4324] - Quote
Shotty GoBang wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:
wall of text
Agreed, entirely. On CPM / Scout RelationsI point to our present relations only to let our brothers know that we're on CPM's radar at the moment. I've identified positions they've taken on the topic of Scouts. Other positions, I've excluded. By excluding other positions, I didn't intend to convey that they've adopted a Scout-only mentality. On CPM1I agree that a Scout "activist" focused solely on Scouts would be a poor addition to CPM1. Any candidate, in my mind, should be active, reasonable, well-rounded, and highly experienced. The ideal candidate will be equipped to speak to the topic of Scouts from a position of experience ... ... rather than from a position of theory or assumption. * We don't need or want a Scout zealot, but we do want someone who understands Scouts. On IWSI too am often put-off at his handling of the community, but through his post on TTK he has earned my respect and support. IWS has spoken to the root of the problem, and offered excellent ideas on how to fix it. When reading Aeon, I get a distinct vibe of "we need to fix TTK, but don't touch my AR" ... this sort circular reasoning stands in the way of progress.
Actually...I don't think you did convey a scout-only mentality...I guess I was just responding to our bros here on a general level, and maybe I have some subconscious sense of a "we need a scout on CPM" undercurrent here.
And listing those current CPMs who've at least interacted with us is good information, which I thank you for.
Sorry if it came across as undermining in any way - I was pretty much spouting stuff in my head ;-)
Perhaps I'm concerned that at some level, if a CPM(1) member is known to be a "Role X" or "Role Y" merc, to almost the exclusion of other roles, then they may have less influence or any lobbying etc. they were to do could be tarred with the "you're a X, that's why you want that to happen" brush.
I guess at the end of the day, there needs to be some trust that someone isn't acting selfishly somewhere along the line. Meh, politics lol |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
155
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Posted - 2013.11.24 19:12:00 -
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Oh one more thing - you know - I probably would vote for IWS, even though his social skills aren't maybe what I think they should be. But, if he is gonna advocate and push for balance, I probably don't care, and will take that as it comes. Because a balanced dust is far more important than him spewing lovey gushey feelings across the forums. |
Cody Sietz
Unkn0wn Killers
Renegade Alliance
1547
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Posted - 2013.11.24 19:40:00 -
[4326] - Quote
IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Oh one more thing - you know - I probably would vote for IWS, even though his social skills aren't maybe what I think they should be. But, if he is gonna advocate and push for balance, I probably don't care, and will take that as it comes. Because a balanced dust is far more important than him spewing lovey gushey feelings across the forums.
Yeah, you can say what you want about him but I honestly think he has dust best interest in mind. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
2443
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Posted - 2013.11.24 19:52:00 -
[4327] - Quote
Cody Sietz wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Oh one more thing - you know - I probably would vote for IWS, even though his social skills aren't maybe what I think they should be. But, if he is gonna advocate and push for balance, I probably don't care, and will take that as it comes. Because a balanced dust is far more important than him spewing lovey gushey feelings across the forums. Yeah, you can say what you want about him but I honestly think he has dust best interest in mind.
I agree. What other interests would he have?
I seriously doubt that IWS is pushing policies to covertly improve his gungame.
That's one good thing about having bad players on the CPM. (No offense, IWS).
The edge they'd need to "get good" would be too far to overt to slip in undetected.
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Cody Sietz
Unkn0wn Killers
Renegade Alliance
1550
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Posted - 2013.11.24 20:06:00 -
[4328] - Quote
Shotty GoBang wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Oh one more thing - you know - I probably would vote for IWS, even though his social skills aren't maybe what I think they should be. But, if he is gonna advocate and push for balance, I probably don't care, and will take that as it comes. Because a balanced dust is far more important than him spewing lovey gushey feelings across the forums. Yeah, you can say what you want about him but I honestly think he has dust best interest in mind. I agree. What other interests would he have? I seriously doubt that IWS is pushing policies to covertly improve his gungame. That's one good thing about having bad players on the CPM. (No offense, IWS). The edge they'd need to 'get good' be would be too far too obvious to slip in all stealth-like :-)
I thought IWS was good? He's always trying out new weapons and playstyles. Figured that's cause he got board of kickarse |
Cass Caul
363
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Posted - 2013.11.24 20:07:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:Laurent: tied with Hand for most active CPM. A CEO. not gonna find a frenchie on the main English pages.
because English ppl cant speak french doesn't mean that frenchie can't speak english... Just saying[/quote]
he posts, in English, on the CPM board. just saying, you wont find him posting in GD
+ÉߦëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦
A girl, on the internet?! I roll to disbelieve.
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
2444
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Posted - 2013.11.24 20:15:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:
I thought IWS was good? He's always trying out new weapons and playstyles.
Yep. IWS is a self-proclaimed omni-soldier.
Its great that he tries out new weapons and playstyles.
Multi-classing comes at a price though. He's spread out his skillpoints over too many roles to be especially good in any particular role. If he has decent gungame, it may not be observed if he's out experimenting with a new suit or gun.
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
668
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Posted - 2013.11.24 20:20:00 -
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I think CCP has been talking about Scout love for a while since 1.4 or so. I don't think they only meant the boost to passive scan range. They will probably add more later (soon(TM)). I think the burdles are 1) they don't know how to do it - with automatic weapons being what they are, the only change to a scout to make it better would be to raise HP which would turn scouts into assaults and 2) they are too slow with everything, so any development will take forever.
As a side note, I would hate to see them add stealth into the game. They cant balance simple things like AR, adding very tricky game mechanics like stealth would break the game even further.
Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
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Cody Sietz
Unkn0wn Killers
Renegade Alliance
1550
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Posted - 2013.11.24 20:23:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:
I thought IWS was good? He's always trying out new weapons and playstyles.
Yep. IWS is a self-proclaimed omni-soldier. Its great that he tries out new weapons and playstyles. Multi-classing comes at a price though. He's spread out his skillpoints over too many roles to be especially good in any particular role. If he has decent gungame, it may not be observed if he's out experimenting with a new suit or gun. Hence his reputation as a "bad player" ... be it true or untrue. Bottom-line, "good players" are generally MedFrames out proto-stomping with an Imperial Scrambler or Duvolle. Such "good players" are the last folks I'd vote for ... they're all but guaranteed to defend their "hard-earned" goodies with clinched fist. I'd much prefer a "bad player" like IWS. :-)
Ah, good point. No doubt that using all those weapons helps with his view of balance. |
Cass Caul
364
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Posted - 2013.11.24 20:24:00 -
[4333] - Quote
Shotty GoBang wrote:[quote=Cass Caul]
A nice little message from a CPM1-hopeful and retired Scout Appia Vibbia
This Appia Vibbia person appears to have been banned for failure to "play nice" with others.
1) Can this Appia Vibbia get herself un-banned?
2) Can this Appia Vibbia resist the urge to rage when engaging less-intelligent lifeforms?
3) Can this Appia Vibbia respond with poise when faced with wrong or opposed opinions?
4) Can this Appia Vibbia offer promise to not brow-beat the Community if elected?
5) Can this Appia Vibbia offer promise to behave respectfully when in contact with CCP?
1) I honestly don't know. I should probably try.
2) yeah, I was really drunk and was being egged on.
3) that what math and statistical data are for.
4) why would I try to brow-beat them? There are so many legitimate opinions in this game, it's just when people call them facts after useing incorrect or false data or use correlation/selection bias.
5) I've been on the bottom of the food chain at work before and delt with awful people. I've also run my own business and delt with people I couldn't stand. None of those people realized it, because I act professional in professional settings.
+ÉߦëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦
A girl, on the internet?! I roll to disbelieve.
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Cass Caul
365
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Posted - 2013.11.24 20:41:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:[quote=Shotty GoBang]
I thought IWS was good? He's always trying out new weapons and playstyles. Figured that's cause he got board of kickarse
He never did the whole kickarse thing. There simply aren't enough suits and weapons and combinations possible for him to still be "testing playstyles."
It was a good excuse in May and June, but an extra 4/5 million SP since then simply in passive SP really means you have to start focusing somewhere.
+ÉߦëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦
A girl, on the internet?! I roll to disbelieve.
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Oswald Rehnquist
667
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Posted - 2013.11.24 20:56:00 -
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I was going to vote for IWS anyways, from the topics he has covered he seems to have a pretty good idea of roles, and he sympathizes with those who are hardest hit.
He is active on the forums and keeps a level head, so in my mind that is a safer bet than going with a wild card.
Below 28 dB
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Morathi III
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:09:00 -
[4336] - Quote
Cass Caul wrote:Morathi III wrote:Laurent: tied with Hand for most active CPM. A CEO. not gonna find a frenchie on the main English pages. because English ppl cant speak french doesn't mean that frenchie can't speak english... Just saying
he posts, in English, on the CPM board. just saying, you wont find him posting in GD[/quote]
He posted in GD when he was the first to show video of Uprising in the past, but the video... Guess what it was in french lol, i haved see him also 1 time he speaked against the Cal Logi when this suit was a bit OP. Laurent lokks like a kind of Kain Spero in my opinion, both are CEO, rarely come to speak in GD or in the war room ( they give that job to their director ). I hope both Kain and Laurent stay CPM, same for ISW, for the rest..... Fired. Also Few of the frenchie make post but some read, we never get answer on the french forum by CCP btw. CCP only come posting to answer this treat is now lock or 2 months later we get an answer lol |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
157
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Posted - 2013.11.24 22:36:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:
I thought IWS was good? He's always trying out new weapons and playstyles.
Yep. IWS is a self-proclaimed omni-soldier. Its great that he tries out new weapons and playstyles. Multi-classing comes at a price though. He's spread out his skillpoints over too many roles to be especially good in any particular role. If he has decent gungame, it may not be observed if he's out experimenting with a new suit or gun. Hence his reputation as a "bad player" ... be it true or untrue. Bottom-line, "good players" are generally MedFrames out proto-stomping with an Imperial Scrambler or Duvolle. Such "good players" are the last folks I'd vote for ... they're all but guaranteed to defend their "hard-earned" goodies with clinched fist. I'd much prefer a "bad player" like IWS. :-) Ah, good point. No doubt that using all those weapons helps with his view of balance.
Lol
So basically, he can try guns out, and if he kills anyone, he knows it's OP :-p
(sorry IWS that we're beating on your gun-game here, rightly or wrongly) |
J0LLY R0G3R
Unkn0wn Killers
Renegade Alliance
212
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Posted - 2013.11.25 03:07:00 -
[4338] - Quote
Scouts OP? XD Made me laugh
XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
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GRIM GEAR
PredaKonZ
69
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Posted - 2013.11.25 03:21:00 -
[4339] - Quote
Epic vid.
It's a bird!
No it's a plane!
Never mind it's just my shotgun in your face!
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Cody Sietz
Unkn0wn Killers
Renegade Alliance
1560
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Posted - 2013.11.25 03:42:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:
I thought IWS was good? He's always trying out new weapons and playstyles.
Yep. IWS is a self-proclaimed omni-soldier. Its great that he tries out new weapons and playstyles. Multi-classing comes at a price though. He's spread out his skillpoints over too many roles to be especially good in any particular role. If he has decent gungame, it may not be observed if he's out experimenting with a new suit or gun. Hence his reputation as a "bad player" ... be it true or untrue. Bottom-line, "good players" are generally MedFrames out proto-stomping with an Imperial Scrambler or Duvolle. Such "good players" are the last folks I'd vote for ... they're all but guaranteed to defend their "hard-earned" goodies with clinched fist. I'd much prefer a "bad player" like IWS. :-) Ah, good point. No doubt that using all those weapons helps with his view of balance. Lol So basically, he can try guns out, and if he kills anyone, he knows it's OP :-p (sorry IWS that we're beating on your gun-game here, rightly or wrongly) that is so wrong, but I'm a bit drunk so you have a like(Sorry, IWS)
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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LeGoose
SAM-MIK
100
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Posted - 2013.11.25 05:58:00 -
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OK so I'm kinda getting addicted to knives and was wondering if anyone had advice on fittings/tactics. Currently running the advanced minmatar scout.
High slots: 1 complex and 1 enhanced shield extender.
Low slots: 1 basic plate and 1 enhanced cardiac reg.
Primary weapoin: TT3 assault sp
Side arm: ZN knives
Equipment: remote explosives.
Tactically I am running the knives similar to how I run my shotgun but a bit more causious. I avoid all direct contact and take off if spotted (usually). Sometimes I can't resist killing an ar user with my pistol. Any general advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. |
Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
424
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Posted - 2013.11.25 06:04:00 -
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LeGoose wrote:OK so I'm kinda getting addicted to knives and was wondering if anyone had advice on fittings/tactics. Currently running the advanced minmatar scout.
High slots: 1 complex and 1 enhanced shield extender.
Low slots: 1 basic plate and 1 enhanced cardiac reg.
Primary weapoin: TT3 assault sp
Side arm: ZN knives
For a knife fit, I'd suggest losing the basic plate. go with reactive or ferroscale instead.
Sometimes, particularly when up against minmatar assaults, that 2% can make a difference.
Heck, go with 2xcomplex shields, and put something else in entirely, like range or stealth? |
nathan scrapper-MY
Harimau Malaya.
3
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Posted - 2013.11.25 06:55:00 -
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Does anyone is running ADV or PRO dampener in their scout suit?
I am intrigued why I havent got the "You have been scanned" messages for quite some time now by running the dampener. 
Correct me if i'm wrong but my scan profile should be 31.5dB right?
Suit: Basic Minmatar Scout (level 2)
Primary: ZN-28 Nova Knives
Secondary: None
Equipment: Flux Scanner
Grenade: None
Enhanced Shield Extender
Enhanced Dampener
Basic Ferro |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
553
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Posted - 2013.11.25 08:51:00 -
[4344] - Quote
Added to the Omniscient Installation issue
Just cause I am learning Mass Driver Diplomacy from the expert 
I am apparently not the only fool
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Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
563
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Posted - 2013.11.25 10:58:00 -
[4345] - Quote
the BLACK EAGLE actually goes like this "for people who think it has no slots"
gallente scout g/1 series (adv)
in the 2 highs it has (a militia shield extender) and an advanced extender (hidden)
in the lows we have (basic kincat) and a (basic range amp) both hidden
then for weapons we trade equipment for 2 light weapon slots
and grenades
also the hidden mods have level 5 bonuses (10% to both kincat module & range module)
thought I would post this here also (feedback welcome)
SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
104
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Posted - 2013.11.25 11:20:00 -
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nathan scrapper-MY wrote:Does anyone is running ADV or PRO dampener in their scout suit? I am intrigued why I havent got the "You have been scanned" messages for quite some time now by running the dampener. Correct me if i'm wrong but my scan profile should be 31.5dB right? Suit: Basic Minmatar Scout (level 2) Primary: ZN-28 Nova Knives Secondary: None Equipment: Flux Scanner Grenade: None Enhanced Shield Extender Enhanced Dampener Basic Ferro
Actually, your profile would be anywhere from 30.5-29.3dB, depending on your dampening skill (2% profile reduction per level). If you are just looking to avoid ADV scanners, you would be better off dropping down to a basic dampener, as your profile would still be <36dB. If you want to avoid proto scanners, a PRO dampener would do it, but you would be better off waiting until you get a higher scout level so that you can use a lower tiered one. In the long run, the only use for proto dampeners is for the Scout Gk.0 to avoid the PRO Focused scanner.
How this is calculated:
Base profile: 45dB
Scout dropsuit (lv2): 45*(1.00-0.10) = 40.5
Profile Dampening (lv3): 40.5*(1.00-0.06) = 38.07
ENH Profile Dampener (20%): 38.07*(1.00-0.20) = 30.456
Final profile: 30.5dB |
Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
816
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Posted - 2013.11.25 12:28:00 -
[4347] - Quote
LeGoose wrote:OK so I'm kinda getting addicted to knives and was wondering if anyone had advice on fittings/tactics. Currently running the advanced minmatar scout.
High slots: 1 complex and 1 enhanced shield extender.
Low slots: 1 basic plate and 1 enhanced cardiac reg.
Primary weapoin: TT3 assault sp
Side arm: ZN knives
Equipment: remote explosives.
Tactically I am running the knives similar to how I run my shotgun but a bit more causious. I avoid all direct contact and take off if spotted (usually). Sometimes I can't resist killing an ar user with my pistol. Any general advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
You got good shield, I would use a shield regulator and drop the green juice, for a hawaiian puch.
Think like a ninja, you need to get up close and personal with any target. Linger for the right time to strike. Use unconventional routes to flank your targets. The more you play with them the more aggressive you'll be.
In cqc it is easy to lose sight of your target. When you shank, do a quick turn in the direction they went. Pay attention to the left knife as it has an arc.
I almost forgot about the pesky A. scanners. so use an adv dampener in one of L slots. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
557
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Posted - 2013.11.25 17:21:00 -
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LeGoose wrote:OK so I'm kinda getting addicted to knives and was wondering if anyone had advice on fittings/tactics. Currently running the advanced minmatar scout.
High slots: 1 complex and 1 enhanced shield extender.
Low slots: 1 basic plate and 1 enhanced cardiac reg.
Primary weapoin: TT3 assault sp
Side arm: ZN knives
Equipment: remote explosives.
Tactically I am running the knives similar to how I run my shotgun but a bit more causious. I avoid all direct contact and take off if spotted (usually). Sometimes I can't resist killing an ar user with my pistol. Any general advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
My Minja Alt fit
Basic (advanced is coming soon)
High Slot: basic shield extender
Lows: Basic Card
Advanced KinCatz
Primary Weapon: ZN Knives
Secondary Weapon: Adv Flaylock
Equipment: Basic Remote Explosives
Grenade: Basic Nades (want to switch to flux but maxed CPU stops me right now)
I run positive kills with this suit the majority of the time, and always positive isk. Be an opportunist, and pick your battles, boots hit the ground running and don't stop until I am dead. Kill the unsuspecting with your knives, silence helps you stay alive and engage from the back. When you are coming into an engagement where your team is hitting from the front, you have the opportunity to slice a few guys before you are noticed, if you get the chance toss down a couple of REs as well. the engagement zone is chaos, you would be surprised how long you can go unnoticed.
As a side note the ScP has improved my aimGǪ with the Flaylock I earned two Proto Flays in two matches I may have wiped out an entire Corp squad. Headshot with a Scrambler = Awesome Headshot with Flaylock = Epic Oh Cal logi why do you tank armour 
I am apparently not the only fool
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Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
564
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:00:00 -
[4349] - Quote
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:the BLACK EAGLE actually goes like this "for people who think it has no slots"
gallente scout g/1 series (adv)
in the 2 highs it has (a militia shield extender) and an advanced extender (hidden)
in the lows we have (basic kincat) and a (basic range amp) both hidden
then for weapons we trade equipment for 2 light weapon slots
and grenades
also the hidden mods have level 5 bonuses (10% to both kincat module & range module)
thought I would post this here also (feedback welcome)
edit: the kins only get a 5% bonus
SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
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Daxxis KANNAH
Distinct Covert Initiative
461
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:56:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:LeGoose wrote:OK so I'm kinda getting addicted to knives and was wondering if anyone had advice on fittings/tactics. Currently running the advanced minmatar scout.
High slots: 1 complex and 1 enhanced shield extender.
Low slots: 1 basic plate and 1 enhanced cardiac reg.
Primary weapoin: TT3 assault sp
Side arm: ZN knives
Equipment: remote explosives.
Tactically I am running the knives similar to how I run my shotgun but a bit more causious. I avoid all direct contact and take off if spotted (usually). Sometimes I can't resist killing an ar user with my pistol. Any general advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. You got good shield, I would use a shield regulator and drop the green juice, for a hawaiian puch. Think like a ninja, you need to get up close and personal with any target. Linger for the right time to strike. Use unconventional routes to flank your targets. The more you play with them the more aggressive you'll be. In cqc it is easy to lose sight of your target. When you shank, do a quick turn in the direction they went. Pay attention to the left knife as it has an arc. I almost forgot about the pesky A. scanners. so use an adv dampener in one of L slots.
I run:
High slots: 1 enhanced shield extender.
Low slots: 1 Complex Kin Cat and 1 enhanced cardiac reg.
Primary weapon: Basic Scrambler - Waiting on RS-90 CR
Side arm: ZN knives
Equipment: remote explosives.
Grenade: Flux
With the basic Scrambler my suit cost under 25k
- Its very good for prowling and attacking when they least expect it. If you keep your distance then the minimal shield isnt much of an issue but anything in range and you are out like a light.
Hoping the CR will be a happy medium between the ScR and AScR
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