Stellios needs to be on the list.

I've been a Scout for over a Year. My kills are not as high as other's because all i played was Skirmish when they had the Stat tracking bug (still f@cking pissed they never compensated us for that)

Minmatar Scout with SMG's/ Blades
Kills 14,552
Deaths 2,550
KDR 5.71
WP 1,114,779

awesome thread! give us scouts some love ccp! by removing contact nades

Hey a chaque fois en domination et escarmouche
Je d+¬passe les 20 et 30 kills . Je suis un petit +¬lite
Non?

I feel your pain, brother. Our disadvantage is magnified in PC. We're weeks away from 1.4. Let's see what the Devs have in store for us.

Shared Squad Sight, Disabled.

http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/08/uprising-1.4-and-beyond

More sneaking, more escaping, more vanishing into the shadows.

also CCP needs to give us a base range of 20.0m
so with the gal bounse plus lvl3 range and Enh Damp it barely get 20.0m

i'm confused all suits only get 1 racial bonus also if you misunderstood what i talking about scout suit get a base range of 20.0m

replacing i though you meant add anther one

Just out curiosity and don't feel obglicated to answer but I was wondering where all our scoutly brothers are from and are you an old school gamer like I am. I'm in Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada and 34 yrs old. Ps your never too old to play vids so don't let them tell you otherwise. ;)

Everyone is having this problem. CCP suggests that the issue is "visual effects only" and will be resolved in 1.5. Supposedly, the shotgun is dealing damage appropriately despite the quirky graphics. I don't buy it ... still miss bunny hoppers and strafers when I know I'm on target.

Original Bug Thread:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=109788

New Bug Thread:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1318519

- Shotty

What's sad is that Minmatar Scouts are technically supposed to be faster then Gallente Scout, but the Gallente Scout (with all base stats up) still out performs them. ugh -_-

well, my KDR has recently started improving, from "abysmal", to merely "poor" [:D]

After getting precision, range, and dampinging to 3, I prioritized getting gallente scout suit to 3.

So now, after doing an initial INSAAAAAAAANERUNNERUPLINKHACKER blitz, I switch to my new, more durable fit:

shield, armor, range
(shield and armor still only at basic levels, mind you!)

and.. surprise surprise... I can now actually survive a hail of bullets just barely long enough to react, and get into cover!
... sometimes.

But that sure beats "never", so I'm a happy camper

"I haz scrambly rifl. ph33r me"

[img]http://formerwhitehat.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/kitten-gun.jpg[/img]

Edit: nutz. that tag used to work. sniff..
click meehhhh

I play a crap load of FW skirmish and hardly get officer weapons
but when I play ambush I get them
does anyone else notice this?

as for officer weapons

57 thale's
41 cala's
33 gastun's hmg
39 gastun's forge
6 balac's
33 krin's
9 wolfman's

Pc is not that bad for a scout. I have some pics of pretty good scores in pc vs hard opponents.

It just depends on how good the shotgun hit detection is at the time :/

Morath I play with 530 hp. Roner is the crazy one with like 700+ ehp lol

Good question!

Scan Profile Progressions, Non-Scouts

Heavies
65.00 dB - Base Profile
58.50 dB - Profile Dampening Lvl 5 [10.00%]
43.88 dB - 1st Complex Dampener [25.00%] <--- Beats 46 dB Scanners
34.34 dB - 2nd Complex Dampener [21.73%] <--- Beats 36 dB Scanners
30.10 dB - 3rd Complex Dampener [12.36%]
27.97 dB - 4th Complex Dampener [07.07%] <--- Beats 28 dB Scanners

Mediums
50.00 dB - Base Profile
45.00 dB - Profile Dampening Lvl 5 [10.00%] <--- Beats 46 dB Scanners
33.75 dB - 1st Complex Dampener [25.00%] <--- Beats 36 dB Scanners
26.41 dB - 2nd Complex Dampener [21.73%] <--- Beats 28 dB Scanners


* Might have to whip out my proto scanner after all :-)

- Shotty

^ Good idea ... thank you, sir.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1349781#post1349781
^ Progressions expanded.

Scout Lvl(5) + Dampening Lvl(3) + 1 Bsc Dampener will beat 28 dB scanner


The Meta 9 (15 dB) Scanner has substantial performance drawbacks.
It will only be used if/when a sneaky Scout angers a Proto Logi.


No opinion :P
Looking forward to getting points for smashing them.

Trouble is, YOU may be undetectable, but your drops arent.
uplinks, nanohives, are fairly visible to other scouts.

REs, less so.
I usually have to visually spot those

Good point, an being a glass ghost is no fun either I just find it stupid thaT in order to not be scanned a mini needs to waste a low slot, which only irritates me more that I didn't stay with gallente.
I have the suit at 3 an I got some neo protos an their fantastic because everything I specked into can fit on the same suit.
I would have totally thought this through more clearly except I never anticipated the game changing this much since uprising.
I feel I would never even bothered with mini an knives, but in uprising I couldn't hit $hit with the shot gun so the speed an knives were better.
But now the sg kiksass for me an the gallente is such a versatile suit in comparison.

I guess my argument is more based on the mini not performing as it did because several things have changed an I realized I'm a low slot ***** lol

You sure he's gone an deleted it? He was off to the army this week for about 6 months I think, bummer I was supposed to get his email, his base is 20 minutes from my house

Laurent: tied with Hand for most active CPM. A CEO. not gonna find a frenchie on the main English pages.

because English ppl cant speak french doesn't mean that frenchie can't speak english... Just saying

As far as shotty getting a spotlight, I imagine he was already contacted but said "No thanks"
All he requires is spreadsheets, liquor and tears generated from scouts killing med frames......that fuels him

Just an idea.

Right now, running uplink immediately puts a target on my back when deployed. Perhaps equipment shroud tiers instead of radius; ex. level 3 gives advanced gear your profile signature, but not level 4 gear.

Well I am still working on getting the hugs in on the next patch.

I know heavies are a close second on the hurting list but scouts need it the most.

A little on the hyperbole Ghost.
Scouts do have a role. And they do both better than other frames.
Ninja-Hacking: My gk.0 with 1 dampener, 3 codebreakers, and 1 uplink (gauged or flux) is far superior that the Min-Logi tring to duplicate it. 2 dampeners and 2 code-breakers mean it's a fraction of a second faster at hacking and can carry more equipment, but no stamina and no sidearm

City-Shotgun. I can't tell you the number of times I've killed Med-Frame shotgunners. They honestly can't compete. Amarr Assault excluded. that suit magics its way though balance.

Oh. Wait. Right. You wasted SP on Minmatar suits. Yeah, I was wrong, that wasn't hyperbole at all.

Gal Scout 5, Gal Logi 5, Cal Logi 3, Amarr Assault 3, and Gal Assault and Cal Assault and Amarr Logi 1 and enough AUR gear salvaged to let me use Logi ck.0 and Assault ak.0 for the next month, 7 proto weapons and the rest at ADV to mix and match with. Every proto module available except shield rechargers and shield regulators
Biomass or Communications outposts will always have me running that Scout suit. Orbital Artilery and Gal laG facility are toss ups though

The Gallente Scout isn't useless. It is the best Ninja Hacker suit- way better than Min Logi. It is also the best Shotgun suit.

No isk in FW: broke Sinboto

EDIT: I'm all for organizing a protest. .

Every match I've played today has had 4 tanks constantly. While some maps, this isn't much of a bother, other maps such as ashlands and manus peak are decided by who has the most tanks as you cannot take or defend points as they're sitting right in the open where tanks can hit them from anywhere or drive right up to them. Pretty frustrating.

Got banned from FW for remoting a red tank. Woooo.

I like how a cloak is scary for balance, but a medium suit with 5H and 4L slots along with 3 EQ slots and CPU/PG for days was never a concern.

I mean, give me a ******* break with this introduce a cloak as nerfed as possible boolshit.

I've heard you say it on at least two separate occasions. And Llast, are you aware that a compex cardiac regulator is a 100% increase in stamina and stamina regen? I'm not saying "more stamina is stupid," which it seems like you're suggesting. All I'm saying is that our bonus isn't even as good as a complex module. Let me explain this to you simply

Amarr Bonus: 25% more stamina and 25% more stamina regen
Standard Cardiac Regulator: 25% more stamina and 50% more stamina regen

Gallente Bonus: 25% profile dampening (and 25% scan range)
Complex Profile dampener: 25% profile dampening

Caldari Bonus: 25% scan precision (and 25% scan range)
Complex Precision Enhancer: 20% precision

Minmatar Bonus: 25% hacking speed (and 25% NK damage)
Complex Codebreaker: 25% hacking speed

As you can see, every other race is getting a primary bonus that is the same or better than a complex module, and then a secondary bonus as well. Meanwhile, the Amarr only get a bonus that is not even as good as a standard module. Do you honestly think that is right?

A complex cardiac regulator is 100% more stamina and 100% more stamina regen, so the Amarr racial bonus needs to get buffed to 20% per level and then they still need to add in a secondary bonus. Or, you can keep the Amarr bonus at 5% per level and make that the secondary bonus, then give the Amarr a primary bonus that is equal value as some complex module (perhaps a complex kin cat?)


And oh, Amarr only has 40 more HP than a Gal or Cal scout, and sacrifices that for speed (which is far more important to a scout), so I'm not too sure about that higher survivability. I mean, the Minmatar Assault is faster than an Amarr scout.

I think the mini an gallente are still the best, for versitality, the gall will really be able to hold its own, an the min can tank so many ways an styles an the Amar will be a nasty bouncy shotgun tank, but the caldari IMO has a bad load out.

It's too similar to a min assault an the now min proto scout, Two lows is a bugger for a scout, sure it's got good bonuses an a fast shield but it's options are very slim with 2 lows, no major combinations, speed, stamina, dampening , range, plates.

Honestly I think the best way to fit that suit will be:
3 shields
Energizer
2complex shield regulators/1 reactive plate/two reds
Cloak
Scanner
Sg or knives

Be very still an hit one at a time like a ghost an move as soon as your scanned
It's gonna have the same trouble as today's Minja

Meh, forget about running proto suits. I normally run advanced and it works just great. OR the aur suits from the NK event. I still have 175 or so of those. The extra 5% dmg to NKs is nice, but overall its a huge SP climb to get proto for something you likely won't use that frequently. I normally just feel bad running proto unless its a real close game. I've ran proto probably a grand total of 50 times outside of PC in the two years I have been playing.

No. No more nerfs.

need more then glow while hacking. I would say pulsating bright neon green with at least 10 arrows pointing as they rotate around the scout flashing yellow and on top of that any dmg taken while hacking get a 100x multiplier with full auto aim assist to anyone in weapon range of the scout.
I mean really a glow while hacking? cmon OBJECTIVE is flashing that it is being hacked and you see nobody at the terminal kinda gives that one away.
if your camping a CRU, Turret, etc and you missed the shimmer run up to it. then your not a very good camper. Or if you don't circle around CRU, Turrets, etc looking for the slight blur or reticle to turn orange/red (not sure with my eyes) then maybe you should just learn to be in less of a hurry and actually TRY to find them.

Now the other points I can see the point of to a degree.
lose the angle give HP buff
longer cooldown on cloaks give a HP buff
you see I dont play the 800HP scout so that added intel and cooldown copensates for my lack of HP. I cant tank a shot poping out to see what direction enemy is facing. and cooldown is for my rapid escape because I can not tank Hits running away in an open field of enemy.

Now finally the NK tank dmg. LOL
yes that is a joke to me too. a plasma knife can do dmg to a tank but my plasma rifle, shotgun and pistol can not.

Is such a thing even possible?


@Not wanting nova knife damage on tanks... what? It does next to no damage. The only way you're going to kill a tank with them is if it's flipped on its back like a turtle or if it has no driver.

Is getting 30+ kills with each of those aside from the sniper not hatemail worthy? And no you did not tell this tale. Story time!

NK dealt damage to tanks during closed and open beta

Also, here are some things that have changed since beta: You can't use speed as a form of armor to reduce hit-detection, the shotgun lost range, the shotgun lost rate of fire, all dropsuits had far lower HP. 250 HP on a Scout A-Series used to feel like a lot.
Shotguns could kill in 2 hits.

You're right, you didn't have a cloak back then and did well, but your speed gave you protection and your shotgun was a much larger threat.

There's no need for worse cooldown when it already requires 50% charge to use. Especially when anyone competent can see the glowing blue outlines

We have the directional radar dot listed as a bug.

For radar--directional should only show if your scan precision is 60% or lower of their profile

So scout with max skills can directional an unskilled heavy but nothing else, sees everything else as a dot that is 36 db or over

Am scout with a prec. of 17 can directional anything 28.3 db or over

Will really add some more balance to the game and hopefully cease the endless flow of scrubby tears.

Also gives reason to run precision other than just picking up scouts.

I play an AR eWar scout 90% of the time and direction indication is one of the biggest factors to survival as you can not kill your target fast enough for them not to turn around and kill you like you was nothing so nerfing direction indication because 1 weapon is not a idea i like. if there is a problem with a weapon fix the weapon. cloak and shotgun are the combo problem not direction indication.

the cloaked hacker can see there arm terminal so why not everyone else? unless its a virtual arm computer only seen through hud. sure that would require a software patch. Other than that i don't think moving your fingers should cause a full body shimmer/glow

I personally don't like the idea of being able to recloak instantly after declaok (decloak shotgun blast recloak) but as I like to use the STD cloak from time to time it is almost made for that tactic since it is not a cloak made for camping but running and active cloaking and declaoking and can be a lot of fun to use. The std cloak also does not have dampening bonus so another thing making it favor not having a recloak delay as one using it is more at risk of tac-net visibility unless gal/cal scouts ;-)
The adv and proto having dampening and longer duration I could be persuaded to favor a recloak delay to prevent the ability to manage your cloak to virtually remain invisible most of a match while still having the ability to recloak instantly after decloak.

NK dmg I think is more for the lol. If a tank dies from more than 50%NK dmg the tanker should have there name posted on the front page of the forums for everyone to see so everyone can make fun of them. Sorry scouts not the killers name as you all will be making alt tankers to kill just to get your names posted.

That was what made the scrambler strong and unique, so instead of nerfing and dumbing down the scrambler they decided to make some of the sidearms more unique. Personally, I love it.

I'm getting that Ion.
I don't care who else is going for it. Kirk and arkena can **** off. That **** is mine.

Even if it came with a new dungeon.
Even if the raid boss looks like a dragon.
Even if legendary gear is guaranteed.

Would not buy.