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Denak Kalamari wrote:

Cass Caul wrote:

8213 wrote:

Okay, I'm confused, in order to make a run at this board, I would have to start counting from now on?

No need to do that. Shotty keeps track of your total number of kills. Some People *cough*Marauder*cough* got their first 20k kills in a different suit all together.
Every week, Shotty updates the front page, because he's awesome like that, to reflect your week's kills and any change in KDR.

It's a good metric for how the Scout community is fairing, though not the best. That would be a nightmare to track only kills made in Scout suits/Light Frame. Especially for me, I've got 3 different assault suits, 3 different logi suits, and a Sentinel suit I get kills in.

LMFAO I just realized Appia has Caldari-Assault, Gallente-Assault, & Amarr-Assault BPOs. Amarr-Logi BPO, skills in Gallente&Caldari Logi, and an Amarr Sentinel BPO. And skills in Gallente Scout. That really does a great job reflecting how worthless I think Minmatar suits are.

8213, to make the board you need to run a scout suit or light frame suit 51% of the time or more. To get on the first post you need more than 5000 kills total. Elsewise you are on post #7.

I'm starting to feel an odd one out because I use scout suits pretty much exclusively in any situation, ambush, skirmish, domination, FW or PC. As far as I know I only have tens to a few hundred kills while not in a scout suits, and those are mostly vehicle road kills or the VERY rare times I pull out my militia logi suit.

"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu

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Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 633	Posted - 2013.11.12 00:24:00 - [3781] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: ? Kinda stealthy in it's own way Hmm.... then we could have an arch rival corp composed of scout hunters called "!"
Llast 326 An Arkhos 415	Posted - 2013.11.12 00:26:00 - [3782] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: ? Kinda stealthy in it's own way Hmm.... then we could have an arch rival corp composed of scout hunters called "!" There is not enough "like" for this post I need a giant <3 button for this I am that Some Margin of Error
Nyra Volki KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 72	Posted - 2013.11.12 00:31:00 - [3783] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I keep seeing this thread pop up. Can someone summarize what this is about? Your worse nightmare Silent you must be Or die you will From brother scout a kind message
Protected Void Endless Hatred 178	Posted - 2013.11.12 00:53:00 - [3784] - Quote Nyra Volki wrote: I want to know how many scouts out there run with precision, range amplifiers on their fits constantly and do wonderfully in matches like me (including PC but that depends on who i'm fighting). I generally don't run with precision mods, although I might if scouts become more common. Range amps, though, is a very common occurence in my fittings.
Oswald Rehnquist 537	Posted - 2013.11.12 04:26:00 - [3785] - Quote I made the mistake of not vetting stuff first here before throwing something out to the rest of the forums, it was also a mistake to throw something out while I was still theory crafting (biggest mistake). Essentially I can see major gains in scouts if we can tie in an equipment item based of a scout stat, so there is use off that equipment plus the benefit of the scout stat. EWAR Equipment related function Scout Designs, thus equipment is available for all, this is intended to keep everything simple This is the only one I"m positive on, Equipment: Tacnet Jammer -Caldari- 10% increase to precision --The major aspect of precision would be applied to Tacnet Jammers, while the equipment themselves will apply a range of effects, the ability to reach or apply any of the effects on targets will be based off of suits precision stat beating the profile sig stat. Tacnet Jammers do the following Turns off the mini map, turns off IFF (identify friend foe) indicators, prevents calling in of vehicles or strikes, prevents squad orders. Further levels into the equipment allows it to apply more effects. Allows for identification of high dampened cloaked units Also similar to how computer viruses similar are rendered harmless when your computer is able to identify and isolate the rogue program, the precision stat could also be the ewar resistance stat. Essentially this is more of a force recon suit The rest is entirely up for grabs, perhaps the cloak should go to the min? what are your thoughts? Equipment: Cloak -gallente- 5% reduction to profile sig and scan radius increae -- cloaks just make you invisible so gallente getting an extra bonus reduction to profile sig and scan radius increase would make the gal scout the best cloaking unit as well as the best anti medium cloak detector. This is more of a combat recon unit, that is able to take on more passive and aggressive roles. I think this one is pretty simple to understand, it would have the ability to beat to focus, coincedentially I c Equipment: Warp Distruptor -Minmatar- 10% bonus to knife and grenade damage --The warp disruptors are something you channel which creates a bubble around you that slows down anyting moving in it. While the mins' bonus does not directly improve the dynamic it does have synergy with the grenade and kniving damage which both benefit from enemies not being able to react fast enough. This one again is a combat recon suit, and thus a pretty simple but effective idea. Its a good group buster as well as anti vehicle unit. General Support -Amarr- 5% to Stamina/regen --Essentially instead of an equipment item that works off of stamina give the Amarr scout 2 equipment slots. Below 28 dB
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 329	Posted - 2013.11.12 14:45:00 - [3786] - Quote We have been spotted again........ https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119241 *fits more complex dampeners to thread PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Twitch
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS 751	Posted - 2013.11.12 17:18:00 - [3787] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: DTOracle wrote: ... all hail AR514. All hail AR-514. Hail or die...by noob sacks.
Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 819	Posted - 2013.11.12 17:22:00 - [3788] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: We have been spotted again........ https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=119241 fits more complex dampeners to thread HAHA! Fixed that for you! You can link things to smilies you know! Go ahead! Click on the link! "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious"* -Sun Tzu
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS 751	Posted - 2013.11.12 17:33:00 - [3789] - Quote Nyra Volki wrote: Joel II X wrote: I keep seeing this thread pop up. Can someone summarize what this is about? Your worse nightmare This thread is about making haircut appointments, nothing else.
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS 752	Posted - 2013.11.12 17:48:00 - [3790] - Quote Imagine what a 16 scout team can do. We are all versatile. Imagine the enemy facing nothing but gal and min scouts. in the future we'll add the cal and amarr. This gal and min combo will make sense because we are allies. This attack can be fun or a giant disadvantage. We should wait for now until we get improved. I wish I could defend a district with my kin.

Cass Caul 281	Posted - 2013.11.12 17:54:00 - [3791] - Quote Niuvo wrote: Imagine what a 16 scout team can do. We are all versatile. Imagine the enemy facing nothing but gal and min scouts. in the future we'll add the cal and amarr. This gal and min combo will make sense because we are allies. This attack can be fun or a giant disadvantage. We should wait for now until we get improved. I wish I could defend a district with my kin. And then a single mass driver wiped out a whole team +Éß¦ëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 646	Posted - 2013.11.12 18:01:00 - [3792] - Quote Niuvo wrote: Imagine what a 16 scout team can do. We are all versatile. Imagine the enemy facing nothing but gal and min scouts. in the future we'll add the cal and amarr. This gal and min combo will make sense because we are allies. This attack can be fun or a giant disadvantage. We should wait for now until we get improved. I wish I could defend a district with my kin. However, after realizing we are an all scout team, the enemy would switch to the focused scanner. While not as dangerous as the others if scanned, they could just have some dedicated scan logis who have 3 or 4 of them to keep watch on us. Not to mention we have a substantial disadvantage if the matches are not on a map with 3 objectives in the city area. Definitely need to wait until there is an actual buff. Also, I think we could put aside our factional differences if offered the chance to unite against the tyrannical control of the mediums. !
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 368	Posted - 2013.11.12 18:51:00 - [3793] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: However, after realizing we are an all scout team, the enemy would switch to the focused scanner. While not as dangerous as the others if scanned, they could just have some dedicated scan logis who have 3 or 4 of them to keep watch on us. 1. dedicated scanners are not attacking. That puts them behind on their force numbers 2. when you are scanning... you have a very noticable delay switching to a weapon, even when you really, really need to. So, if they fit a logi, like a logi tank, they arent going to be able to get away. They'll be slow, and we get an extra free knife stab or shotgun blast, while they cant fire back! And if they fit the logi like a scout... they arent going to be able to survive long. Particularly since if they were any good as a scout.. they'd be playing scout, wouldnt they? !! Win-Win for us
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 2159	Posted - 2013.11.12 18:59:00 - [3794] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: ...particularly since if they were any good as a scout.. they'd be playing scout, wouldnt they? !! Not necessarily ... Marauder (#1) is in the process of switching to Medium Frame. Radar (#2) tends to run his Medium Frame in PC.
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 691	Posted - 2013.11.12 19:00:00 - [3795] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: Krom Ganesh wrote: However, after realizing we are an all scout team, the enemy would switch to the focused scanner. While not as dangerous as the others if scanned, they could just have some dedicated scan logis who have 3 or 4 of them to keep watch on us. 1. dedicated scanners are not attacking. That puts them behind on their force numbers 2. when you are scanning... you have a very noticable delay switching to a weapon, even when you really, really need to. So, if they fit a logi, like a logi tank, they arent going to be able to get away. They'll be slow, and we get an extra free knife stab or shotgun blast, while they cant fire back! And if they fit the logi like a scout... they arent going to be able to survive long. Particularly since if they were any good as a scout.. they'd be playing scout, wouldnt they? !! Win-Win for us Definitely - this would be fun!! And I would absolutely put aside any faction differences just to pack-hunt like a bunch of rabid wolves, tearing through some drooling, blundering medium frames. Les' do eet!
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 646	Posted - 2013.11.12 19:03:00 - [3796] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: 1. dedicated scanners are not attacking. That puts them behind on their force numbers 2. when you are scanning... you have a very noticable delay switching to a weapon, even when you really, really need to. So, if they fit a logi, like a logi tank, they arent going to be able to get away. They'll be slow, and we get an extra free knife stab or shotgun blast, while they cant fire back! And if they fit the logi like a scout... they arent going to be able to survive long. Particularly since if they were any good as a scout.. they'd be playing scout, wouldnt they? !! Win-Win for us Except they won't be alone. They'll have their Assault and Assault Logi teammates around them for protection. We wouldn't live long enough to get within shotgun or nova knife range (not to mention using a nova knife in PC lag ). A scout's only advantage is stealth. Without that the ARs and SCRs will rip us apart. We could use the 700+ eHP scout fittings some have proposed to put us on a similar tanking level, but are we really scouts then? !
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 371	Posted - 2013.11.12 19:20:00 - [3797] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: 1. dedicated scanners are not attacking. That puts them behind on their force numbers... Win-Win for us Except they won't be alone. They'll have their Assault and Assault Logi teammates around them for protection. We wouldn't live long enough to get within shotgun or nova knife range ... We could use the 700+ eHP scout fittings some have proposed to put us on a similar tanking level, but are we really scouts then? different scenarios call for different tactics. If they're all clustered close together.. clearly, its grenade & MD time If they're more spaced out: scrambler rifle, or even tac sniper rifle. If they're in one place: ignore em, and win by getting the objectives. 2 or 3 scouts run in and out, before they get there. If they move between objectives: REs, baybee! :D Domination would be a fail, though. Unless perhaps a trained squad of plasma cannoneers with damage mods., and nanohives to burn. "Close artillery support, on my mark. Fire!" One day, I really, realy, want to see a skilled up group of lets say 4 scout plasma cannoneers sweep through a domination match. Even the basic one, has a splash damage of 285, for a 3.5 meter radius. 4 of those at once on the same spot, same time... bai-bai, objective clear.... This is the sort of thing I was masterminding, for the All-Scout squad cup team. Makes me so sad we didnt get enough recruits in time :(
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 405	Posted - 2013.11.12 20:54:00 - [3798] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: and we get an extra free knife stab or shotgun blast, while they cant fire back! ] And Scrambler shot, don't forget my Scrambler shot. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 426	Posted - 2013.11.12 20:56:00 - [3799] - Quote Spademan wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: and we get an extra free knife stab or shotgun blast, while they cant fire back! ] And Scrambler shot, don't forget my Scrambler shot. To the head I am that Some Margin of Error
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 371	Posted - 2013.11.13 00:58:00 - [3800] - Quote Light frames vs scout I always wondered WHY anyone would possibly bother running a light frame instead of a scout. Then I made a discovery. Maybe it's for the ALt's. I have an alt, that I'm slogging through the tree, slowly after my main, which has Scout ADV suit. I'm missing the extra goodies, in my M-1 suit. Then, while creating a new fit from scratch, I noticed "M/1" in the marketplace. Huh. But... but... its only a 'light' frame....? Oh YEAHH.. every scout 'has to' unlock that stupid thing on the way to true scout. But how does it look stat-wise... Compared to my freakin' Basic M-1 scout frame... it rocks! THe extra slot, extra power, and cpu, of the ADV suit, availableto me NOW.. for the slight penalty of 5% higher profile, and 10k more ISK per fit? ?? Psshht.. i have more money than I know what to do with.... Guess I'll be running light frame, until I make another 300,000 SP to fit into a "proper" M/1 scout! :)

Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 2163	Posted - 2013.11.13 04:36:00 - [3801] - Quote Speed Fit! Saved up a couple million running the 25k AR fit today. Decided to splurge on a speedy shotgun fit to wrap up the evening. Inspired by a brutal a*s-kicking from Assert Dominance and Demzor. These guys were fast as hell and seemed to appear from nowhere. My EZ Mode AR was no match for the two of them :-) gk.0 Fun Fit (96k Isk) HS: Cmp Shield (1) LS: Cmp KinCat (2), Cmp Reactive Plate (1), Cmp Range Extender (1) PW: K5 Specialist Shotgun SW: M209 Assault SMG GR: M1 Locus EQ: Compact Hive ... Pushes 10 m/s sprint but squishy squishy at around 400 HP. Tended to lurk around enemy positions / objectives, luring one or two at a time. Range Extender came in super handy in planning surprise attack / flank. This build is lots of fun after a boring day of running AR. There's something exhilarating about knowing you'll die in a 3rd of a second if spotted. Keeps the senses sharp :-) Definitely not viable versus organized opponents, but loads of fun against general randoms. - Shotty
8213 The Neutral Zone 685	Posted - 2013.11.13 04:48:00 - [3802] - Quote Okay, I'm confused, in order to make a run at this board, I would have to start counting from now on?
DoubleTap420 Pradox One Proficiency V. 105	Posted - 2013.11.13 04:54:00 - [3803] - Quote So shotguns my opinion but I think they need a 7 meter range buff. Also the proficiency needs to be change to damage or leave it as is just raised to 5% per level. 3% per level dont seem to make much a difference for the sp cost. What do yall think? Long live scouts! We will prevail one day.
Oswald Rehnquist 543	Posted - 2013.11.13 04:56:00 - [3804] - Quote 8213 wrote: Okay, I'm confused, in order to make a run at this board, I would have to start counting from now on? You bring up a good point, I was actually joking around with a few friends on dust saying the best scoring scout is broke / retired tanker. Below 28 dB
Cass Caul 281	Posted - 2013.11.13 05:37:00 - [3805] - Quote 8213 wrote: Okay, I'm confused, in order to make a run at this board, I would have to start counting from now on? No need to do that. Shotty keeps track of your total number of kills. Some People coughMaraudercough got their first 20k kills in a different suit all together. Every week, Shotty updates the front page, because he's awesome like that, to reflect your week's kills and any change in KDR. It's a good metric for how the Scout community is fairing, though not the best. That would be a nightmare to track only kills made in Scout suits/Light Frame. Especially for me, I've got 3 different assault suits, 3 different logi suits, and a Sentinel suit I get kills in. LMFAO I just realized Appia has Caldari-Assault, Gallente-Assault, & Amarr-Assault BPOs. Amarr-Logi BPO, skills in Gallente&Caldari Logi, and an Amarr Sentinel BPO. And skills in Gallente Scout. That really does a great job reflecting how worthless I think Minmatar suits are. 8213, to make the board you need to run a scout suit or light frame suit 51% of the time or more. That gets on the first post you need more than 2500 kills total. Elsewise you are on post #7. +Éß¦ëddGêÇ -çou -Äll+É-çoGö¦
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 604	Posted - 2013.11.13 06:37:00 - [3806] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: 8213 wrote: Okay, I'm confused, in order to make a run at this board, I would have to start counting from now on? No need to do that. Shotty keeps track of your total number of kills. Some People coughMaraudercough got their first 20k kills in a different suit all together. Every week, Shotty updates the front page, because he's awesome like that, to reflect your week's kills and any change in KDR. It's a good metric for how the Scout community is fairing, though not the best. That would be a nightmare to track only kills made in Scout suits/Light Frame. Especially for me, I've got 3 different assault suits, 3 different logi suits, and a Sentinel suit I get kills in. LMFAO I just realized Appia has Caldari-Assault, Gallente-Assault, & Amarr-Assault BPOs. Amarr-Logi BPO, skills in Gallente&Caldari Logi, and an Amarr Sentinel BPO. And skills in Gallente Scout. That really does a great job reflecting how worthless I think Minmatar suits are. 8213, to make the board you need to run a scout suit or light frame suit 51% of the time or more. To get on the first post you need more than 5000 kills total. Elsewise you are on post #7. I'm starting to feel an odd one out because I use scout suits pretty much exclusively in any situation, ambush, skirmish, domination, FW or PC. As far as I know I only have tens to a few hundred kills while not in a scout suits, and those are mostly vehicle road kills or the VERY rare times I pull out my militia logi suit. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published 09/11/13
Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 822	Posted - 2013.11.13 07:01:00 - [3807] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: Cass Caul wrote: 8213 wrote: Okay, I'm confused, in order to make a run at this board, I would have to start counting from now on? No need to do that. Shotty keeps track of your total number of kills. Some People coughMaraudercough got their first 20k kills in a different suit all together. Every week, Shotty updates the front page, because he's awesome like that, to reflect your week's kills and any change in KDR. It's a good metric for how the Scout community is fairing, though not the best. That would be a nightmare to track only kills made in Scout suits/Light Frame. Especially for me, I've got 3 different assault suits, 3 different logi suits, and a Sentinel suit I get kills in. LMFAO I just realized Appia has Caldari-Assault, Gallente-Assault, & Amarr-Assault BPOs. Amarr-Logi BPO, skills in Gallente&Caldari Logi, and an Amarr Sentinel BPO. And skills in Gallente Scout. That really does a great job reflecting how worthless I think Minmatar suits are. 8213, to make the board you need to run a scout suit or light frame suit 51% of the time or more. To get on the first post you need more than 5000 kills total. Elsewise you are on post #7. I'm starting to feel an odd one out because I use scout suits pretty much exclusively in any situation, ambush, skirmish, domination, FW or PC. As far as I know I only have tens to a few hundred kills while not in a scout suits, and those are mostly vehicle road kills or the VERY rare times I pull out my militia logi suit. To be honest, very few go 100% scout. I keep myself in the 80-90% range. I run scout whenever possible, but if I find myself throwing myself against a brick wall, I bust out my Minmatar Assault. I see no reason in staying in the suit when I am not using it for it's built purpose. My assault suit is designed for open combat. My scout is not "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
Llast 326 An Arkhos 429	Posted - 2013.11.13 07:03:00 - [3808] - Quote How many are 100% am I the only fool? I am that Some Margin of Error
Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 823	Posted - 2013.11.13 07:09:00 - [3809] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: How many are 100% am I the only fool? I thought you were the Margin of Error "All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
Plastic-Jesus Ariana Army 12	Posted - 2013.11.13 07:19:00 - [3810] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: How many are 100% am I the only fool? Im 100% scout. It isn't the easiest suit to run full time, but I just cannot bring myself to use medium suits.



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