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Cass Caul
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Posted - 2013.11.11 19:37:00 -
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Sharpshooter will help a lot, AR ops III and Sharpshooter III is the best use of SP for that... Or just the ScR Ops IV for assault scrambler rifle :p
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
411
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Posted - 2013.11.11 19:39:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Llast 326 wrote:There is two sweet routes in where you will not blip. Up the Vent at the back, and the far bridge by the stairs on the side opposite the CRU, though you need to jump off the bridge and over the opposite rail to not blip. Don't like the vent route. After you reach the objective's range, you are stuck in an open area with no cover. I know, I prefer the bridge jump myself. If my team is pushing the bridge side I will take the vent route, because Red is distracted and I can more reliably get in behind and disrupt the Red defence.
I am that Some Margin of Error
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Quil Evrything
DUST University Ivy League
364
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Posted - 2013.11.11 19:40:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Sharpshooter will help a lot, AR ops III and Sharpshooter III is the best use of SP for that... Or just the ScR Ops IV for assault scrambler rifle :p
I was wondering abut assault scrambler rifle. but.. going by the stats, its suposedly only about equal to AR in damage. And, with people seemingly wearing armor more than shields, I'd think AR would have the win over damage comparison to AScR ?
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Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
70
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:19:00 -
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For some reason i don't pop on enemy TacNet until i'm right on top of the CRU or Objective. I'll be like 5, 10m from objective and they keep doing what there doing until I start hacking.
Silent you must be
Or die you will
From brother scout a kind message
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
411
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:21:00 -
[3755] - Quote
Nyra Volki wrote:For some reason i don't pop on enemy TacNet until i'm right on top of the CRU or Objective. I'll be like 5, 10m from objective and they keep doing what there doing until I start hacking. First circle on the Tac will give you away on letters, never sure about the range of CRU and such, same or less.
I am that Some Margin of Error
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Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
70
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:27:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Nyra Volki wrote:For some reason i don't pop on enemy TacNet until i'm right on top of the CRU or Objective. I'll be like 5, 10m from objective and they keep doing what there doing until I start hacking. First circle on the Tac will give you away on letters, never sure about the range of CRU and such, same or less. Well sense the latest update i don't any more. well do have a complex dampener on the same fit, even in my 'Hunter Scout' set up i still don't in other words i have to be hacking before they see me. Also if someone sees me i have to be 15m from them before they can't see me no more.(this for all suits)
Silent you must be
Or die you will
From brother scout a kind message
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
594
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:33:00 -
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Yay, I'm a Tier IV scout now with over 10 000 kills! \o/
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
2145
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:37:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote: Followup question:
Seriously, NOTHING more than this? Just a couple levels into AR, just enough to unlock GEK? No damage mods, no (any other things I'm not aware of) ? ? ? No AR sharpshooter, no... ? ? ?
GEK hasnt been so wonderful for me in the past.l I guess thats just because I didnt take the time to sneak up to them point-blank, rather than attempt to kill them from 20m?
If this really works... I can forsee actually following the somewhat cynical post from someone in the past, along the lines of, "Okay, lets ALL switch to AR, forget running any other weapons, and finally maybe CCP will get the message"
I tested a "naked" BPO AR in 1.5. It worked quite well, but TTK from behind was still better with the Shotgun. Ended up investing a week or two of SP into the AR to see how it scaled. Operation (5) / Sharpshooter (3) / Proficiency (3). The AR became a solid alternative to shotgunning; results on average having held constant, I ended up running mainly the CRG or K5 simply as matter of preference.
I've invested nothing further in AR skills, yet the AR of 1.6 has improved dramatically. It literally melts targets from behind, with TTK comparable to a CRG (for targets that take 2-3 blasts). I assume that a "naked" GEK will likely have improved along similar lines. Of course, the more SP invested the better. The AR scales amazingly well with SP investment.
The problem with Shotgunning is that while hit detection has improved, our TTK has worsened. It takes too long to place the oft-required 3 blasts (or 2 from a Breach), even at Shotgun Proficiency V. The only way I'm able to "make it work" is by running highest-tier gear. I still prefer shotgunning, but running an armor-tanked gk.0 + Creodron is an unsustainable practice.
Tactics held constant, my 25k AR fit vastly outperforms my 25k Shotgun fit. My 125k Proto Shotgun fit tends to net more kills, but at equivalent KDR and substantially more expense. It doesn't make sense, for me at least, to continue running Shotgun regularly. I intend to invest further into ARs. If CCP rebalances CQC, then I'll have a handy alternative for maps with little cover. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
411
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:38:00 -
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Nyra Volki wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Nyra Volki wrote:For some reason i don't pop on enemy TacNet until i'm right on top of the CRU or Objective. I'll be like 5, 10m from objective and they keep doing what there doing until I start hacking. First circle on the Tac will give you away on letters, never sure about the range of CRU and such, same or less. Well sense the latest update i don't any more. well do have a complex dampener on the same fit, even in my 'Hunter Scout' set up i still don't in other words i have to be hacking before they see me. Also if someone sees me i have to be 15m from them before they can't see me no more.(this for all suits) Stealth change in the update? I have not been on much since the updateGǪ Do you have confirmation that you are not showing at all?
I am that Some Margin of Error
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Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
71
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:09:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Nyra Volki wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Nyra Volki wrote:For some reason i don't pop on enemy TacNet until i'm right on top of the CRU or Objective. I'll be like 5, 10m from objective and they keep doing what there doing until I start hacking. First circle on the Tac will give you away on letters, never sure about the range of CRU and such, same or less. Well sense the latest update i don't any more. well do have a complex dampener on the same fit, even in my 'Hunter Scout' set up i still don't in other words i have to be hacking before they see me. Also if someone sees me i have to be 15m from them before they can't see me no more.(this for all suits) Stealth change in the update? I have not been on much since the updateGǪ Do you have confirmation that you are not showing at all? yes for me that is don't know about others.
Silent you must be
Or die you will
From brother scout a kind message
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
412
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:16:00 -
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Nyra Volki wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Nyra Volki wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Nyra Volki wrote:For some reason i don't pop on enemy TacNet until i'm right on top of the CRU or Objective. I'll be like 5, 10m from objective and they keep doing what there doing until I start hacking. First circle on the Tac will give you away on letters, never sure about the range of CRU and such, same or less. Well sense the latest update i don't any more. well do have a complex dampener on the same fit, even in my 'Hunter Scout' set up i still don't in other words i have to be hacking before they see me. Also if someone sees me i have to be 15m from them before they can't see me no more.(this for all suits) Stealth change in the update? I have not been on much since the updateGǪ Do you have confirmation that you are not showing at all? yes for me that is don't know about others.
I am that Some Margin of Error
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Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
71
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:30:00 -
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The down side is if spotted your survive ability drops 90% to 10%. With my play style it Drops to 30% depending on the situation and location.
Silent you must be
Or die you will
From brother scout a kind message
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
412
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:39:00 -
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Nyra Volki wrote:The down side is if spotted your survive ability drops 90% to 10%. With my play style it Drops to 30% depending on the situation and location. Always been the downside though I have never had an ehp greater than 300, so i live by seeing and not being seen.
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Quil Evrything
DUST University Ivy League
364
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:00:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote: The problem with Shotgunning is that while hit detection has improved, our TTK has worsened. It takes too long to place the oft-required 3 blasts (or 2 from a Breach), even at Shotgun Proficiency V.
huh.
I guess you play a lot of tough/and/or PC matches.
My son is a newb. (but apparently catches on fast! :) He discovered the breech shotgun. He has a mere 2 in shotgun ops. NO damage mods. He is a very happy camper.
Most of the time (70%?), he sneaks up and finishes off his opponents in 1 shot. He usually makes the 2nd shot okay, if he needs it.
(His KDR puts me to shame. sigh... Freakin kids.. GET OFF MY LAWNohwait, you're my kid. SIGHHH...)
'course it helps that most of the time he has me running scanner for him... |
Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
813
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:30:00 -
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Okay, I just watched this and I gotta say, I'm pretty dang hyped for this game.
It seems to be a game that I can get some of my friends behind, and just adventure together when we want, or engage in warfare on the battlefield when we feel competitive.
Anyone else super hyped for Destiny?
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
0
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:41:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Killboard Updated: 10 Nov 2013, 18:00 (EVE)
Accolades
- Mr Musturd advanced to Tier VI (40,000 Kills)
- Demzor advanced to Tier VI (40,000 Kills)
- Assert Dominance advanced to Tier VI (40,000 Kills)
- ChaosDragon58 advanced to Tier V (20,000 Kills)
- Nyra Volki advanced to Tier V (20,000 Kills)
- DozersMouse XIII advanced to Tier V (20,000 Kills)
- TranquilBiscuit ofValor advanced to Tier IV (10,000 Kills)
- Llast 326 advanced to Tier II (2,500 Kills)
- Lucifalic advanced to Tier II (2,500 Kills)
- Samantha Hunyz advanced to Tier II (2,500 Kills)
- Ninja Draco advanced to Tier I (1,250 Kills)
- Quil Evrything advanced to Tier I (1,250 Kills)
- No Promotions this week to Tier III (5,000 Kills)
Brothers Found
- Tier II (> 5,000 Kills): Foxbat 071
- Tier + (< 1,250 Kills): Lan Tendorin, Kelc Ct'elpem, VAHZZ
Adaptation / Activity Report (1.6)
- Total Registered Scouts: 226
- Total Inactive Scouts: 69 (have not played 1.6)
- Total Active Scouts: 157 (have played 1.6)
- KDR Incline: 47% of Active Scouts
- KDR Holding: 26% of Active Scouts
- KDR Decline: 27% of Active Scouts
Notes
First 1.6 update. KDR is holding or improving in more cases than anticipated. Tough odds out there, but you guys adapt pretty dang quick. Keep up the good work, brothers. o7 Happy Hunting, Shotty GoBang Had a pretty good week so far
hit 20,000 kills
got on the leader boards for war points
got level 5 in a few awesome scout skills
and k/d keeps rising
the set up ive been using 90% of the time cost under 6k isk and im winning toe 2 toe with assault/logi protos
standard scout bpo with core skills maxed
high slot is militia bpo shield extender low slots are militia bpo plate and repper
weapons are scrambler rifle with pro 3 syndicate smg with pro 3 & sharpshooter 3
grenades are M1 equipment is A45 scanner
with this set up I can also go all match without having to resupply
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
626
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:57:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Okay, I just watched this and I gotta say, I'm pretty dang hyped for this game. It seems to be a game that I can get some of my friends behind, and just adventure together when we want, or engage in warfare on the battlefield when we feel competitive. Anyone else super hyped for Destiny?
Destiny is a close third after Metal Gear Solid V and Dark Souls II for my most anticipated games coming out in the near future. |
Quil Evrything
DUST University Ivy League
364
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:02:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote: Anyone else super hyped for Destiny?
Destiny is a close third after Metal Gear Solid V and Dark Souls II for my most anticipated games coming out in the near future.
GRrrr.. Come ON guys, go take it elsewhere.
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Joel II X
AHPA
131
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:06:00 -
[3769] - Quote
I keep seeing this thread pop up. Can someone summarize what this is about? |
Lightning Bolt2
From The Mist
331
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:11:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Niuvo wrote:Nyra Volki wrote:I want to know how many scouts out there run with precision, range amplifiers on their fits constantly and do wonderfully in matches like me (including PC but that depends on who i'm fighting). Here. It's silly how a med or heavy doesn't need range amps because the damn obj./cru/supply depot gives us away. What I can run atm is 1 adv precision. 2 comp range amps, 1 adv repper and 1 basic damp. Yes, infallible precision on installations and objectives is ridiculous. We can work around it and use it to our advantage. Example 1 Shotty had brought up a map design issue in the research facility, where Letter is at the top of the stairs. Scout assaults on this Objective are madness, unless you trick them. There is two sweet routes in where you will not blip. Up the Vent at the back, and the far bridge by the stairs on the side opposite the CRU, though you need to jump off the bridge and over the opposite rail to not blip. Also height mess people up, they see you but they have no idea what level you are on by the map play with them a bit and eventually they figure out you are not on the level they thinkGǪ and RE are waiting. Example 2 It's a trap RE the approaches to the Letter and start a hacking, when they come for you stop and boom. This really works well, just watch for our bastardly kin, they can slip buy sometimes Also brush through the field of one precision sink, hightail it to your true objective. The enemy cannot match your speed. We work with what we have at hand o7
I've made a thread asking CCP to give installations & objectives scan precision to make stealth gameplay more viable.
though, were sneaky enough already CCP might not notice us!
[EDIT] whoops, 4got the link it's here!
remember, when you first see lightning play in a open field!
from the non-existent mist!
forum warrior lvl: pathetic!
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
2147
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:11:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:...anyone else super hyped for [redacted]? NB4 "Moved to Locker Room" ...
Thank the heavens the Devs don't poke about our thread. Either way, not cool to tempt fate.
Let's try to stay on point. o7 |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
412
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:15:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I keep seeing this thread pop up. Can someone summarize what this is about? Bastards and rogues creating a community?
I am that Some Margin of Error
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
2147
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:25:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I keep seeing this thread pop up. Can someone summarize what this is about? Super Secret Scout Hangout.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
627
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:31:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I keep seeing this thread pop up. Can someone summarize what this is about?
The headquarters for the Universal Conquest by Scouts Committee (Name is a work in progress...) |
Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
815
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:32:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:It's okay guys, I can go be hyped elsewhere
Changed it for you guys.
So to bring it back on topic, I'm skilling into gallente scout suits with 3x SP.
Why? Cause I'm using a basic gallente rightn now with enhanced range amps, and I am loving the gameplay so far.
Since I only have 700k SP into Minmatar, it's not that much of a waste. Besides, I think it might be a bit more up my playstyle, which involves flanking and surviving multiple engagements. I don't like to run away from fights, and I like knowing where the enemy is without a scanner.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
413
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:37:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Joel II X wrote:I keep seeing this thread pop up. Can someone summarize what this is about? The headquarters for the Universal Conquest by Scouts Committee (Name is a work in progress...) We should totally attack a PC districtGǪ all scouts
I am that Some Margin of Error
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Quil Evrything
DUST University Ivy League
365
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:48:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:Joel II X wrote:I keep seeing this thread pop up. Can someone summarize what this is about? The headquarters for the Universal Conquest by Scouts Committee (Name is a work in progress...) We should totally attack a PC districtGǪ all scouts
You need a corp for that, right? Was the above name, some kind of attempt at a corp name?
That's too obvious :-p
It needs to be something more along the lines of "Covert Ops". or "Silent and Deadly" or "ShadowCorp" or ..
?
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
630
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:01:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:Joel II X wrote:I keep seeing this thread pop up. Can someone summarize what this is about? The headquarters for the Universal Conquest by Scouts Committee (Name is a work in progress...) We should totally attack a PC districtGǪ all scouts You need a corp for that, right? Was the above name, some kind of attempt at a corp name? That's too obvious :-p
Obviously if we were forming a corp specifically to increase scout influence across Molden Heath we would need to name it "Hard Mode" |
Quil Evrything
DUST University Ivy League
365
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:14:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Quil Evrything wrote: Was the above name, some kind of attempt at a corp name?
That's too obvious :-p
Obviously if we were forming a corp specifically to increase scout influence across Molden Heath we would need to name it "Hard Mode"
Hey, that's pretty good!
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
415
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:21:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:
You need a corp for that, right? Was the above name, some kind of attempt at a corp name?
That's too obvious :-p
It needs to be something more along the lines of "Covert Ops". or "Silent and Deadly" or "ShadowCorp" or ..
?
Nah not an attempt at a corp name but now that you mention it I like
or
for this idea Kinda stealthy in it's own way
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