Honestly, F the other frames. Only the Scout suit should be allowed to cloak. no to assault cloaking, read it over an assault cloaking?? no to heavy cloaking, no to logi, no to pilot, and NO NO NO to commando.

Actually Damp over 3 yield a huge return if you are running Basic Light Frame, which right now is a better option with the higher scan radius. Yep even the basic can scout better than the scout

You're absolutely correct. I was thinking more in terms of Level 5 Racial Scout. Pardon my oversight.

How does that sound to everyone?

Honestly, F the other frames. Only the Scout suit should be allowed to cloak. no to assault cloaking, read it over an assault cloaking?? no to heavy cloaking, no to logi, no to pilot, and NO NO NO to commando.

Honestly, F the other frames. Only the Scout suit should be allowed to cloak. no to assault cloaking, read it over an assault cloaking?? no to heavy cloaking, no to logi, no to pilot, and NO NO NO to commando.

How does that sound to everyone?

Now this is the point that will make them work only really well with scouts but also allows suitably fitted mediums a chance:

Scan profile will determine whether other suits can see you or not while cloaked

If an enemy suit has lower scan precision than your scan profile, you will appear like a translucent uncloaked clone but not as opaque as a normal clone

If successfully scanned by an enemy active scanner, you will similarly appear translucent to the scanner's squad and will still get a flashing chevron over your head

I like the 'cloak only applies if you're under their precision' thing.

Dont like the 'still get a bonus' thing.

We need to make cloak useless to heavies.
and wanna-be heavy logies, for that matter.

This is somewhat similar to an idea Oswald had, but how about this:

Introduce a new slot type, the active module slot.
Each suit gets 1 (except sentinels) to mirror equipment slots

this is unneccessary. we already have equipment that can be 'active'; repair tools and injectors.

Leveling dilemma:
I like to set per-week goals for SP use.
With the massive cap this week, seems like I would be able to get either shields 5, or range 4 (or even 5, I suppose).

I usually run a gallente scout level4. Currently,
Shield 3
Range 3
(armor 3, precision 3, damp 3)

At this point would people recommend capping out shields, or range?

I'm thinking shields first.

I would say Range
In the current environment will shields even add an extra bullet to you? (this is an honest question)

Leveling dilemma:
I like to set per-week goals for SP use.
With the massive cap this week, seems like I would be able to get either shields 5, or range 4 (or even 5, I suppose).

I usually run a gallente scout level4. Currently,
Shield 3
Range 3
(armor 3, precision 3, damp 3)

At this point would people recommend capping out shields, or range?

I'm thinking shields first.

I would say Range
In the current environment will shields even add an extra bullet to you? (this is an honest question)

From a scout perspective. The low TTK is destroying our play style. Any of our potential playstyles (except perhaps as snipers, which are played better as assaults or logis anyways). If I sneak up behind someone I should be able to drop them. The hit detection fix for the shotgun is pretty nice actually. Worked a lot better for me this morning. Unfortunately, the militia suited players I was trying to kill (from behind, nice and sneaky) just turned around and blapped me with one burst of a militia AR in a wild spray of hip-fired rounds.

I used to be able to run and hide before getting killed if I got caught out while being sneaky. I have no recourse now. Less than a second to die. My speed mods, my armor buffs, my shields all count for nothing. I tried every variation of suits that I have, from my proto armor buffed scout to my proto kin cats stuffed scout. They all died equally well to the militia AR wielding Frontline assault suit.

My typical K/D ratio was sitting between 2-5 each match. I played extraordinarily well to get a 1.4 K/D ratio with 1.6 patch.

Some might say HTFU. But when I can't even survive a 0.5 second burst.....no playstyle is going to work no matter how "hard" I play.

I say, why should I HAVE to play anything other than the scout? Everyone wielding ARs just isn't what Dust is all about. Diversity is the name of the game. Unfortunately, that's not what the current TTK mechanism is driving us to.

Would like to see cloaking effectiveness be reliant on dampening vs precision with a hefty penalty to users of shield extenders. If you can't beat my scan precision, your cloak equipment might as well be a rock.

Thus other suits would have to choose between stealth and tank:
-dampening or armor/speed in lows
-tank or reduction to signature in highs

I'm a scout so loltank and I'm already maxed in ewar...so they will need to sacrifice damage mods and shield extenders to see me.

On another slightly related note - a lot of people have been talking about the old type IIs and second equipment slots being amazing. I feel the need to remind you all that the second equipment slot was at the expense of both speed and most importantly our sidearm slot. You won't be running around with uplinks and scanners with nova knives, are you? What about when you need to reload your shotgun and have no SMG to switch to?

Yes, it would be cool to have two equipment slots again but just remember that it's not going to be just like we are with an extra equipment slot; we will have to sacrifice something pretty significant for it.

Yes. This is not really a buff. It's an adjustment.The buffs are coming, baby.