So let me see if I understand this: Kin Cats and Myofibs are the key to insane jumping in the near(ish) future. Assault suits have the potential for higher jumps, but scout suits are confirmed to jump further.

High jump vs Long jump: Prepare the trajectory graphs!

Or maybe super secret bonus for Minscouts towards Myofs.

Kincats won't affect jump height. He said it's a factor of speed, not sprint speed. Plates affect speed which is why they affect jump height.

Confused.

Sprint speed is a speed. So is walk speed. If I jump while walking, I travel less far than if I jump while sprinting. If jump increases, such that I jump further while walking, won't I also jump further while sprinting?

What am I missing?

Confused.

Sprint speed is a speed. So is walk speed. If I jump while walking, I travel less far than if I jump while sprinting. If jump increases, such that I jump further while walking, won't I also jump further while sprinting?

What am I missing?

How many knives does it take to kill a tank if you jump on it

Update, and the spreadsheet is updated as well, and added to the OP.

"After making the Starter loadouts much better, we ran into the issue of PG/CPU capacity. The situation was tricky because Militia and Standard Basic Frames were not in parity, and we wanted to simplify fitting so that all starter fits had the same PG/CPU capacity. However, we also had an old issue we could fix at the same time, Basic Medium Frames have been underpowered for a while and the solution was simple. Massively increase and equalize all Basic Medium Frame capacity, make them worth skilling up to Prototype, and give Militia Dropsuits a reduced, fixed % of Standard capacity. So thatGÇÖs what we did. Coupled with the fact that we reduced the ISK cost of Basic Dropsuits in a recent hotfix, will hopefully make them viable choices for battle. To fine-tune the Starter loadouts, and increase parity of militia choices, we also made tweaks to the PG/CPU requirements of a few militia items as well."

Apparently Basic Medium Frames will get better CPU/PG than Assaults, or at least the MN BMF will.

Spreadsheet Hotfix Echo

EDIT: Though I forgot that Assault gets 25% fitting bonus for light/sidearm/grenades. So the BMF fitting buff is not as massive as it sounded initially

But it is massive nonetheless.

True, but I still don't see a reason why I should ever advise a new player to spec into lvl 5 basic suits. It remains a waste of 1mil SP. It makes more sense to save the SP and get into lvl 5 Assaults sooner.

I had an idea a while ago which was to make basic suits a blend between logi and assault, basically make them non-specialized suits instead of assaults without the bonus. But I did not get enough good feedback to pursue that idea further.

I'm new to dust and I'm a scout do i need to worry about kd per battle dieing 15 times per battle how do I stop dying?

Early career is all about dying alot. With each death, you learn what not to do next time :-)

For now, focus on trying to get things done without getting spotted. You're studying to become an assassin, and the more effective you are at avoiding detection, the better you'll be at backstabbing when the time comes.

Get around the enemy running wide flanks, and put uplinks behind them for your friendlies to spawn in on. Get as close as you can to an enemy position without dying, then paint their position with an Active Scanner. Find an overwatch position in a hillside near the enemy position and snipe at weakened targets.

Each of these is an exercise in learning to get around undetected. You don't need a cloak to do it, and when you can finally fit a cloak, you'll be that much more effective with it. You're learning about enemy movements/behaviors, maps, and flanking routes. All of this will come in handy.

You've come to the right place, Ghalags. We're here to help. Ask any question you'd like and keep us posted on your progress. o7

I'm new to dust and I'm a scout do i need to worry about kd per battle dieing 15 times per battle how do I stop dying?

Is it still not possible / planned to give standard suits some bonuses that are unique to standard dropsuits (aka they don't apply to advanced suits i.e sentinel / assault)

Something that could make them viable options, instead of just skips?

For example standard medium dropsuits could get a bonus to their racial tanking style (- PG / CPU costs of tanking modules) and something along the lines of:

Gallente: Armor Rep module increase
Amarr: Plate penalty reduction
Caldari: Shield penalty reduction
Minmatar: Kin Cat fitting reduction

And I don't pretend to know what standard heavies and scouts would get. If I had to make suggestions, std heavies would getting fitting bonuses to Heavy Weapons, and ways to increase performance (not straight up damage) Standard Light suits could get advantages to resist active (not passive) scanners.

I'm new to dust and I'm a scout do i need to worry about kd per battle dieing 15 times per battle how do I stop dying?

I'm new to dust and I'm a scout do i need to worry about kd per battle dieing 15 times per battle how do I stop dying?

I wouldn't worry about dying so much right now, its going to happen, you kind of just have to accept it.

One thing that will reduce your deaths however is to make sure you are at least level 3 in your Gal Scout, and to skill into Dampening as high and fast as possible.

Right now, your G-1 is probably showing up on people's Tacnet, and you are probably getting the "You've Been Scanned" message a lot. A scanned scout is a dead scout, so first and foremost you want to work on getting yourself dampened.

Exactly. There is zero good reason to have any 'basic frame' beyond level 3, in fact it's a 'trap option' to even pretend they're appealing.

Better than mlt? Sure. As good as a bonused suit? You're ****ing kidding yourself.

Will jumpy myo's replace your precision enhancers in your highs? Does anyone other than me still use them?

Will you swap all shield extenders and said prec enh for jumpy's? Somethings gotta go especially if stacking.

I'm new to dust and I'm a scout do i need to worry about kd per battle dieing 15 times per battle how do I stop dying?

I already fit a cloak
Suit is
Scout G-I
Shotgun
Breach Scp
Cloak
2 basic Ferroscale
1 Basix Dampener
1 Basic Precision

If we really want basic medium frames to be used at all then they have to have something the Assault suits don't have.

One idea I had was giving basic medium frames a second equipment slot -> make them an unspecialized blend between Assault and Logi.

They could do a bit of both but would be less effective than the specialized suits at either.

Also, since CPU/PG is tough on BMF, give them a 1% or 2% per level bonus to CPU/PG to make them competitive.

But then also make sure the Assault bonus is worth it! (I think the MN and AM Assault bonuses are fine but the GA / CA bonuses could use some work, if you want to believe the general forum chatter.)