We have a Mass Driver Sidearm, it's called the flaylock

Not unless ya make Mass Drivers sidearms. But I'd guess pagl1u M is a scout and doesn't like logis being able to fight back with the only weapon truly effective against them.

I said something EFFECTIVE against scouts.

+1 Pokey
Very good analyses of the current situation and side arm logis are not the answer.

Haha I know I was just giving you ****.

Blast, my failure to detect sarcasm has foiled me again.

No worries mate, online text forums are not exactly good at expressing inflections in voice. Because English is a terrible language

Still seeking input on this topic, and planing to roll up my sleeves for the reading catch up here after my weekend out of town.

While you're looking at the logistics suits....
Fix the Min logis stats.

It has more armor than shields and it's supposed to be a shield based race.
It has 90 shields and 150 armor.

What are your takeaways so far?

I am currently working with my SMB to compile notes on that for discussion with the rest of the CPM and then move toward formulation for something to push to CCP.

Once we have some actual action times for upcoming hotfix deployment I'll be posting here what that update (or more likely a link to it).

Cheers,
Cross

It's good to see threads like this come up, so yeah thnx for taking the time to try and make a difference. Are CCP being receptive towards things like this?

Also It would be good if we could get a Dev response on how they see logi's on the battlefield.

Good stuff anyway.

CCP (specifically R and Logibro) have been very engaged with the CPM so far and honestly I'm happy to report the biggest constrained we've faced in getting ideas iterated has been more resource/tech than a willingness on their part to be receptive or interactive.

I agree a conceptual roadmap, for logis, support in general, or even roles more broadly, would be useful, even if we don't end up with a full description I am hopeful we can at minimum get some form of hotfix level outline before too long (all times are obviously subjective because of the many factors in play but it is high on my list of things I'd like to see moved forward).

I'm glad to see the level of participation in this thread and would like to extend my thanks to everyone in the community who has taken the time to constructively articulate concepts related to this theme.

Moving forward I will be focusing more heavily on compiling the ideas already present into a comprehensive/actionable "TL;DR" for CCP and the rest of the CPM. Even that being the case, please do not feel as if discussion in this thread must, or even should, cease as I will still have an eye on new developments here (the other will simply be focused on that write up ).

Cheers,
Cross

It's good to see threads like this come up, so yeah thnx for taking the time to try and make a difference. Are CCP being receptive towards things like this?

Also It would be good if we could get a Dev response on how they see logi's on the battlefield.

Good stuff anyway.

That's a very unsatisfying answer, cross! Give us something... What here do you like?

I will try to get something more meaningful out to you guys soon as I am able, I know waiting on this stuff can get frustrating in short order - as I've done quite a bit of it myself - but realistically it is likely to take awhile yet before I have something to present (just to be clear "awhile" should, if nothing goes awry, be tallied more in days than weeks).

To add, I really would really like to see an ADV triage repair tool that can repair 2 targets at once (40/70) . I would also like to have the Proto Tier triage to repair 3 targets at once.

I've again, just tossing out our there but, now that orbitals are now 5k, would it be possible to soften the wp cap on logis maybe?

Btw

I'd like to see some more posts in this thread about the support experience rather than just how to change the logistics suit to be better.

I feel like I'm one of very few people who actually would like to better the experience of the support player rather than arguing about suit stats.

Sidenote:I see you're trying to blow off and deflect from any relevant suit buffs to logistics.
You can better the support experience dramatically by fixing the suits first.
Trying to call it an 'arguement' is a lowbrow strategy trying to get off the subject of buffs for logistics,which are severely needed.Go somewhere else with your 'subterfuge'.

lol... slow down there, newb. PIck your targets a little better. Shayz has a lot more cred on the topic than most anyone else.