Nanite Injector: It's a ******* piece of ****. It's been 2 years. The guys on the CPM0 were telling CCP even before it was released how aboslute game-breaking terrible it would be if you can just pick up anyone. ATM terribads and troll are the only ones that carry them.

Have to just say... Just because you use a needle for "trolling"/grieving doesn't mean everyone else holds that same mentality, and also, most people don't have nearly as hilarious **** fit reaction to being revived as you do, so I think you are overestimating the trolling potential of the needle. But thanks for calling me a terribad, sweetie ;)

Make the scanner light up the user on the radar to his targets. Rather like active sonar, it should work both ways. You pinpoint THEM, but they pinpoint YOU.

Scanners need to have a margin for error, allowing suits to sometimes spoof the radar instead of being autodetection.

I would make the chance low .

Make the scanner light up the user on the radar to his targets. Rather like active sonar, it should work both ways. You pinpoint THEM, but they pinpoint YOU.

the suit extra bonuses smell like homogenization but i can dig it.

Great idea! ...as long as it applies to passive scans as well, not just the active scanner :P

Negative sir, rather like passive sonar, if you aren't actively pinging you can sit and listen all damn day without alerting anyone so long as you don't fart too loudly.

Passive scans are your sensors listening for EM feedback whether that feedback be some jerk broadcasting homoerotic slashfic over their comms or the energy signature of a charging forge gun.

Since your passive sensors are not pinging nois out (hence passive) there is nothing to detect from them.

But since an active scanner is pinging it should flash your ass to the enemy team.

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The Minlogi + sentinel combo is arguebly the best duo in the game, because of the bonus the min has on the reptool and the speedy nature of the suit compared with 4 equipment slots. Now imagine a Core focus reptool with the suit bonus of Pro Min logi and a extra lvl 5 reptool operation bonus. To me that sounds OP and if people would call that OP they're right for once.

I am, by no means, a logistics merc, but I would like the WP rewards for equipment to be closely reviewed. Triage and Guardian WP's seem to be incredibly high while Intel Kill Assists are pathetically low.

A increase in max stamina or stamina regeneration is the only thing that I wanted as a logi.



P.s. and a speed boost

I am, by no means, a logistics merc, but I would like the WP rewards for equipment to be closely reviewed. Triage and Guardian WP's seem to be incredibly high while Intel Kill Assists are pathetically low.

That's actually a key point to not overlook... my base speed is adequate (Cal Logi mostly) but the ridiculously low stamina pool and regen is a big pain in the a$$. Speed is the domain of the scouts but I see no reason why Logi's can have high level base stamina and assaults split the difference.

Role: priority target, AV, Sentinel CQC, Commando suppressor.

Mostly of note are drop uplinks. They diminish the value of needles, rep tools and map control by making it easy to spam out seemingly dozens of the things into an area making it almost impodsible to clear them. Needles are in disfavor because uplinks are cleaner and more reliable.

Rep tools: easy to use. Rarely deployed. There needs to be a shield rep tool badly so shield tankeers can compete with active rep armor suits.

Nanohives: armor rep hives allow solo pubstars to eliminate the need for squad support. Most players use them in preference to rep tools as dropping two armor hives is more efficient than a rep logi.

Needles: hardly anyone uses em. Most people prefer using uplink respawns.

Scanners: have replaved most battlefield resupply and support tools as preferred method

Commandos: have no functional value over the new assaults beyond better weapon selection and poorer fitting capability. The slower speed is going to kill them.

Logistics Mk.0

Injectors:
WP as incentive is nice,but if a MLT frame can walk up and tap O to negate your Pro needle then the problem still remains.
Doesn't really help shield tankers.
-Need a needle priority system that uses the HIGHEST level needle when reviving.
-Possibly reduce the amount of armor refilled and give a comperable amount of shields instead.

Rep tool:
Neon "kill me" sign.
Can't outrep a MLT weapon with a Pro rep tool.
Places logistics firmly on the frontlines of combat with its insanely short reach.
Provides 0 incentive other than WP farming.
Allies don't know they're being repaired.
Doesn't really help shield tankers.
-Remove the rep tool line to aid in logistics survival,leave the lock on boxes.
-Give damage resistance while using (something like 65% to all damage)
-Increase range by dramatic amounts for the logistics class.
-Return the rep tool glow,but have it work like hit detection so an ally can see which side they are being repaired from
-Negate shield recharge delays while used on allies,or recharge 25% of shields per hp/s restored. (eg sixkin 88 hp/s so 25% of 88) possibly reduce armor repair rate to compensate. Presto a rep tool that helps shield and armor.

Hives - Any-
Too easily destroyed by any stray explosions.
Low carrying capacity.
Low refilling amounts. (nanites)
Annoying when a MLT frame stands on top throwing grenades at no one to use them faster.
-Explosive resistance increase so it actually takes effort to destroy them.
-+1 carried per level logistics bonus
-Increased nanites -or- burst variants that refill faster but have lower nanites (think compact nanohives).
-Disable grenades being refilled

Scanners:
Dat cooldown.
-Nuff' said

Uplinks:
Actually alright

R.E.s:
The description says volitile chemicals yet i see scouts throw them from hights taller than their own suit,and sling them as if they are throwing frisbees.
Are considered equipment yet can be refilled at nanohives.
-Have them explode killing only the thrower if dropped from too high a height or slung with too much momentum
-Disable refilling from hives

Logistics suits:
30 more eHP than a scout
Slower than heavier tanked mediums
Bigger hitbox despite having less eHP
Doesn't have the best regen despite having less eHP
Doesn't have the best eHP despite its speed.
When run as a support unit it costs easily 2x as much with 1/2 the survival


Since logistics has more in common with scouts (ewar,equipment) logistics should be made to mimic them.

-Keep the low eHP but in exchange give speed/stamina,regen amount and speed,and a smaller hitbox.
This way it establishes a theme,support is fast and evasive,while killing is strong and durable.

-Cut equipment costs by 50% minimal



Based on personal experience,i would prefer to be harder to hit with better regen than have higher eHP.
eHP just makes it too tempting to fight instead of support.

very wrong.. needles are good. they save clones ticking down in all game modes most notably ambush while uplinks are there to give players a faster way back to the hot zone at the time and most every logi should be running with a needle at all times.. typical loadout would be Needle rep-tool uplink.. or Needle, reptool,hive.. or sometimes in amboosh Needle, uplink,hive

I am, by no means, a logistics merc, but I would like the WP rewards for equipment to be closely reviewed. Triage and Guardian WP's seem to be incredibly high while Intel Kill Assists are pathetically low.