So GalLogi ["permascan"] is fine because ...

Pretty clear I'm wasting my time here. Good luck getting yourselves buffed. o/

We don't want Scouts stepping on the Logi's toes. We do want Scouts to actually use their class bonus and run cloak.

PS: Played lots of Ambush yesterday. Noticed fewer heavies but far more Logis than before. Even a few Battle Logi (had to plug one of 'em 3x with a Creodron SG!). Not sure what's up, but a drop in Scouts and an increase in Logis certainly isn't what I expected to see.

Really? You worry about a scout being able to deploy all equipment at once seriously? I would be more worried that they can't . If you think about it, a scout is meant to shape the battlefield for incoming forces, drop links and hives appropriately or eliminate sentries around a perimeter. Usually its a struggle to do both tasks and even harder when half your equipment disappears when you drop it for the team running or spawning in behind you.

The Logi being slower by far than the scouts follows the main force, propping up the team with additional links, hives and reps. There is no stepping on toes here just plain common sense, or battle logic.

In the early days of the biggest nerf of the game when Logis took a huge hit, we all used the scouts to fill the gap because why not, now with the slight changes to the Logi to return it to some of its proper glory, many have gone back to using the Logi, and moreover its the best suit to make WP in. I can make, out of one use of each equipment slot, 130wp from one spawn, one rep cycle, one revive in an ambush. The scout is close but still misses out on a third or more of the WP gain based on the same items.

Yesterday I saw a commando pull out a rep tool on a logibro...OMG a Commando Logi!! Watch out guys limit his bandwidth!

You close your mouth you logi wannabe.

Commandos should've gotten a second equipment slot,not scouts.

They trade eHP and thousands of rounds in a lost heavy weapon,and even slots.

Scouts trade nothing.

Scouts are scrubs,and are supposed to suck with equipment.

You are supposed to be the last resort niche suit,not the go-to first deploy suit.

Learn your place.

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TLDR
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FFS CCP stop half-assing and give assaults 4 equipment,100% dampening,invisibility,and 3 weapons already.
You've effectively gotten to the point where everyone in the logistics community can see you only care about assaults,and feign care for any other class.

QQ much?

Whelp, I am a CB Vet Pro Logi. Its not my fault he pulled out a rep tool and it was entertaining. I play all the roles because the points are invested. I know the classes and have done pro logi and pro scout as well as pro heavy.

You have an issue with scouts? Its not an discussion about what to nerf in other classes but scouts are able to play a viable support role. It is this issue of not being viable with low bandwidth that causes them to be used as front line killers and fricken jack rabbits with explosives lately.

Never mind the fact that even in an explosive deploying role they can't put out 3 explosives without one destroying itself!!

Well, if it looks like cow poop and smells like cow poop,it's probably cow poop.
Amirite?


I hate grey.

The whole 'every class is important' malarkey.
Then through their own actions they show that only 1 class is important,assaults.

Actions speak louder than words.

Scouts were given low bandwidth,because they're supposed to suck with equipment.

No other class is supposed to compete effectively with logistics in equipment.
Except maybe commandos.

Scouts were given low rep rate because they're supposed to suck at direct attacks.

No other class is supposed to compete effectively with assaults in directly attacking.
Except maybe commandos.

Scouts are designed for stealth,not deployment.

Have you tried the other classes at all?

Do you try to do other things rather than just Point ***** or are you a "dedicated" logi only guy who hates it when every thing changes on you that you like about a class so you QQ about it because "it's not fair"?

Respect CCP, at least until you finish making your own FPS that is a Playstation Exclusive and has at least as many players and you have to struggle with balance issues.

Tell you what how about just don't brag first then whine second.

I was just wondering...

Why do flux grenades destroy equipment?

I mean,hives say in the description that they are shielded from outside interference.(AKA flux grenades,flux OBs)

Equipment has 2 life bars.
An empty shield bar.
A full life bar.

Why do flux grenades destroy armor on equipment yet armor on dropsuits isn't scratched?
Why doesn't equipment have shields despite having a shield bar?

Why is do only REs refill at depots and hives?
Why do REs explode instead of popping harmlessly?
-I've never seen a popped hive expel all its contents to refill as i have seen REs do theirs to kill

Why did scouts get 2 equipment slots instead of commandos?

Why do scouts still have 2 equipment slots?

That's a rather narrow view. Who is to say that the scout shouldn't use both their bonuses and both of their equipment slots for equipment? The shimmer weave scouts have now can hardly be described as a cloak, nor is it stealthy when it glows on your screen. If you look at the current Meta, most scouts appear to not use cloaks or just in limited capacity, and rather just run around with explosives and hack objectives, shotty everything to death. Their role needs diversity not a one fit does it situation the bandwidth imposes.

[Warning Troll Bait]
Because Rainbows were taken.

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Ever wonder if you can see beyond yourself?

Ever Wonder if you have drunk enough of the juice yet?

If you still wonder please Ignore my post right here and move on.

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Scouts have 2 equipment slots to allow for a support role ability. This abiity is Hindered by bandwidth limitations quite severely.

Who's to say,you ask.
CCP,i exclaim.

Mid post,right above 'Quality over Quantity'.

See my last post to 100% discredit your scouts for support bs.

Are we done yet?

Wow, consider that in the brief time you have been arguing with me if they should have more bandwidth you still haven't asked how much more and yet you claim CCP has said what you are saying and you are also calling them liars. I have a really hard time reading any of your posts.

Note, I did not once specify that I want to run a scout Logi. Also note that equipment costs on bandwidth apply to the other suits you spawn into so if you deployed in a Logi, dropped links and hives then switched to your scout to go hack, all your equipment dies. Thats not Quality over Quantity that is a lack of needed bandwidth to be what you need to when you need to be it. Its even worse when you switch to a Heavy from a Logi.

As much as you appear to rage, it doesn't change the fact that I believe there is an issue here that need addressing.

Wow,you can't read.

Go back,and read the paragraph above 'Quality over quantity'.

Above,not below,not beside.
On top of.


Oh yes i called them liars,but that doesn't change the fact they set the rules.

You are a hypocrite,because you say 'respect CCP' and as soon as i link you to a post made by CCP to shut you up you write it off as bunk and worthless.

Cross is there a way to block people from posting scout sympathy requests here?

Logistics is and has been broken for over 7 months and seeing these spoiled brats posting as if they actually have problems is tedious and detracts from the overall discussion.

BTW 98.9% of the links you spawn in on are scout uplinks.

Maybe in PC, in Pubs I doubt it!

My description of it being a scout problem was because they have the second highest bandwidth and if they have a problem everyone else does too.

More like second lowest.

Amarr/Caldari Logi: 20/28/36

Minmatar/Gallente Logi: 16/24/32

Light/Medium/Assault/Commando: 8/12/16

Scout: 6/9/12

Heavy/Sentinel: 0