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Malkai Inos wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

Malkai Inos wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

All I know is that this thread proves that CCP never had any intent to open up a dialogue with us on this issue. There has been no reason given for their decision, no explanation on what was discussed to arrive to this decision, and no explanation as to why we've been banished to Level R to talk amongst ourselves.

Why were we simply not told "No"

I still fail to see how you came to that conclusion, seing that their answer demonstrably turned out not to be "No". A "yes, but" might not be what you asked for, maybe not even enough, but that's still not the complete negative you make it out to be.

The simple fact is that it isn't fair across the board. Some players are hit harder by this, players who patiently waited for backlogged content.

It is a short sighted fix, and I could even forgive that, if they would just talk to us. Apparently even the CPM was pushing for this, yet they still turned it down.

Why

Where is the dialogue? Where is the reasoning? Why does CCP feel that having skills that don't synergize is good?

Why have they banished us to Level R if for no other reason than containment, since discussion was quite clearly not their goal?

A compromise is never fair across the board and, honestly, I did the math while writing my above post, not knowing whether it even ends up supporting the argument I was trying to make but it turned out surprisingly close to the painful compromise I expected it to be.

Yes, some are hit harder then others. But that includes the ones who have personal, real worries about what kind of precedent any form of respec might pose and whether it might end up being the one to finally break the dam for a progression system they didn't sign up for when they joined the game.

You might disagree with these worries and you have every right to do so but they're there nonetheless.

And I have to stress again. The CPM pushed for a full infantry respec and got a partial one. That might not be the full extend of what they asked for but they were not turned down by any means. My little crappy math tells me that the vast majority of players got granted more than they were denied.

That's what a compromise is all about. Neither gets exactly what they would like so that neither is left completely in the "dust"(huehue).

Regarding this thread's existence, it's probably a combination of those two:

The idealist says: It's there so that the community can have a focused discussion for devs to look at and asses the overall of a need/demand for a respec along with the supporting arguments from either side.

The cynic says: It's there purely to contain the discussion and prevent these threads from flooding the rest of the forum to its detriment.

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Malkai Inos Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1226	Posted - 2014.03.12 18:38:00 - [1051] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: All I know is that this thread proves that CCP never had any intent to open up a dialogue with us on this issue. There has been no reason given for their decision, no explanation on what was discussed to arrive to this decision, and no explanation as to why we've been banished to Level R to talk amongst ourselves. Why were we simply not told "No" I still fail to see why you came to that conclusion seing that their answer demonstrably turned out not to be "No". A "yes, but" might not be what you asked for, maybe not even enough, but that's still not the complete negative you make it out to be. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1925	Posted - 2014.03.12 18:42:00 - [1052] - Quote http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/dropsuits-of-uprising-1.8/ After lengthy discussions with the CPM and large amounts of community feedback, the decision has been made to refund all skill points currently spent in the Dropsuit Command tree to playersGÇÖ unallocated SP pools. So, if your preferred racial frame didnGÇÖt previously exist, youGÇÖll be able to switch to one of the newly available suit frames without penalty. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12189	Posted - 2014.03.12 18:44:00 - [1053] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: All I know is that this thread proves that CCP never had any intent to open up a dialogue with us on this issue. There has been no reason given for their decision, no explanation on what was discussed to arrive to this decision, and no explanation as to why we've been banished to Level R to talk amongst ourselves. Why were we simply not told "No" I still fail to see how you came to that conclusion, seing that their answer demonstrably turned out not to be "No". A "yes, but" might not be what you asked for, maybe not even enough, but that's still not the complete negative you make it out to be. The simple fact is that it isn't fair across the board. Some players are hit harder by this, players who patiently waited for backlogged content. It is a short sighted fix, and I could even forgive that, if they would just talk to us. Apparently even the CPM was pushing for this, yet they still turned it down. Why Where is the dialogue? Where is the reasoning? Why does CCP feel that having skills that don't synergize is good? Why have they banished us to Level R if for no other reason than containment, since discussion was quite clearly not their goal? Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Malkai Inos Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1227	Posted - 2014.03.12 18:44:00 - [1054] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/dropsuits-of-uprising-1.8/ After lengthy discussions with the CPM and large amounts of community feedback, the decision has been made to refund all skill points currently spent in the Dropsuit Command tree to playersGÇÖ unallocated SP pools. So, if your preferred racial frame didnGÇÖt previously exist, youGÇÖll be able to switch to one of the newly available suit frames without penalty. That's soooo 16:00pm EVE time. Get with the times, granpa. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1925	Posted - 2014.03.12 18:45:00 - [1055] - Quote The 25th is the day. Now this thread can crawl back to the hole it came from and rot. CCP please lock this thread. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
Captain SAINTUS 703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 2	Posted - 2014.03.12 18:46:00 - [1056] - Quote I don't understand why there is even a discussion about a total respec. There NEEDS to be a respec period. Brand new suits with specific roles means specific weapons and upgrades need to be skilled into. Only one thing will come with NOT giving a respec more complaints and less active players.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1925	Posted - 2014.03.12 18:47:00 - [1057] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/dropsuits-of-uprising-1.8/ After lengthy discussions with the CPM and large amounts of community feedback, the decision has been made to refund all skill points currently spent in the Dropsuit Command tree to playersGÇÖ unallocated SP pools. So, if your preferred racial frame didnGÇÖt previously exist, youGÇÖll be able to switch to one of the newly available suit frames without penalty. That's soooo 16:00pm EVE time. Get with the times, granpa. I have been up for over 36 hours and the three hours I slept I missed it. I just want this thread locked or deleted. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12189	Posted - 2014.03.12 18:50:00 - [1058] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Malkai Inos wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/dropsuits-of-uprising-1.8/ After lengthy discussions with the CPM and large amounts of community feedback, the decision has been made to refund all skill points currently spent in the Dropsuit Command tree to playersGÇÖ unallocated SP pools. So, if your preferred racial frame didnGÇÖt previously exist, youGÇÖll be able to switch to one of the newly available suit frames without penalty. That's soooo 16:00pm EVE time. Get with the times, granpa. I have been up for over 36 hours and the three hours I slept I missed it. I just want this thread locked or deleted. Get out of Level R, this is Vector territory now. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1925	Posted - 2014.03.12 18:58:00 - [1059] - Quote Vector territory? Level R? I don't know what those mean! I am not good at sleeping so I don't know if me not understanding is sleep deprivation or me just being stupid, either way some mercs are going to be very happy. Want to take bets on when the first new respec thread pops up after the 25th? - that is a serious request. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1948	Posted - 2014.03.12 19:00:00 - [1060] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: This respec is not for you changing roles. This respec is for people changing racial suits without penality: Amarr Heavy -> Caldari Heavy. Minmatar Scout -> Amarr Scout. Gallent Logi -> Caldari Logi. Stuff like this. Because, you know, they changed the bonus. If you didn't like scout then why did you spec into it? Also equipment skills are never worthless. Also even if you want to change, you had to spec into a new suit and a new weapon before. Now you at least get your dropsuit sp back. Are people never happy?! Having maxed Armor Repair and Armor Plates on shield tanked suits isn't exactly what I'd call "without penalty" Having to use equipment that doesn't fall in line with your new logi bonus isn't exactly what I'd call "without penalty" Having the wrong type of weapon for your new Assault bonuses isn't exactly what I'd call "without penalty" I'll never grasp why this community is content with having wasted SP sitting around that you literally would never have spent in light of these new changes. It will actually never compute. You say that SP is valuable, and in the same breath, dismiss its value. Are you now seriously complaining about core skills which always give you a benefit? Do you REALLY want to go THAT path?! 25% more armor are 25% more armor, no matter what suit. Also you might want to spec into a second suit later on, which might be an armor suit. Also: Am I the only one around here who thinks that variety doesn't hurt? Even with the respec I'll spec into 3 suits again. And I'll also spec into a new weapon. Heck. How many SP do you have? 1 million? If yes, then your character is way too young anyways to care about stuff like respecs. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12193	Posted - 2014.03.12 19:04:00 - [1061] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: This respec is not for you changing roles. This respec is for people changing racial suits without penality: Amarr Heavy -> Caldari Heavy. Minmatar Scout -> Amarr Scout. Gallent Logi -> Caldari Logi. Stuff like this. Because, you know, they changed the bonus. If you didn't like scout then why did you spec into it? Also equipment skills are never worthless. Also even if you want to change, you had to spec into a new suit and a new weapon before. Now you at least get your dropsuit sp back. Are people never happy?! Having maxed Armor Repair and Armor Plates on shield tanked suits isn't exactly what I'd call "without penalty" Having to use equipment that doesn't fall in line with your new logi bonus isn't exactly what I'd call "without penalty" Having the wrong type of weapon for your new Assault bonuses isn't exactly what I'd call "without penalty" I'll never grasp why this community is content with having wasted SP sitting around that you literally would never have spent in light of these new changes. It will actually never compute. You say that SP is valuable, and in the same breath, dismiss its value. Are you now seriously complaining about core skills which always give you a benefit? Do you REALLY want to go THAT path?! 25% more armor are 25% more armor, no matter what suit. Also you might want to spec into a second suit later on, which might be an armor suit. Also: Am I the only one around here who thinks that variety doesn't hurt? Even with the respec I'll spec into 3 suits again. And I'll also spec into a new weapon. Heck. How many SP do you have? 1 million? If yes, then your character is way too young anyways to care about stuff like respecs. Armor plates and Reps do not raise base stats genius Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Sleepy Shadow L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 111	Posted - 2014.03.12 19:08:00 - [1062] - Quote Lycuo wrote: If we get a respec of dropsuit command and you are going to change from a armor tanked suit to a sheild tank suit due to the change in how crappy your armor suits are... Why would we not be able to reassign our dropsuit upgrades to accommodate the change in suit type. Also, lets say i used to be minmatar logi for the hacking speed and i had systems hacking to compliment that suit, why would i want to use that too when i respec to a heavy that isnt going to be using hacking mods. On top of this when you change the effect of a proficiency for a gun, i would not allocate the extra skillpoints for levels 4 and 5 for this skill. That is almost 2 mil skillpoints that i could get back from 2 guns... This is again not quite fair... TANKS HAD NOTHING CHANGE WITH RESPECT TO THEIR GUNS BUT THEY GOT RESPECS TO TURRET OPERATION SKILLS... please CCP do the right thing and allow the dropsuits to respec everything due to the massive changes in bonus and passive skills. Hacking skill gives you a bonus to hacking speed as well. Your heavy hacks 25% faster even if you donGÇÖt use mods. What is wrong with that? How is that wasted SP? You feel that lower hacking speed is somehow better? Anytime IGÇÖve used an alt with no skills in hacking it has been a painful experience to hack anything. It just feels so damn slow without the skill. The change to proficiency means your gun does not excel against the tank type it was not made for. This change is wonderful and long overdue. But why would you not want more damage on your gun? If you have AR proficiency at 5, your gun gets 15% extra damage against shields but youGÇÖre saying youGÇÖd be happy with 9% given the choice? So your STD AR is a GEK instead of Duvolle? And regarding the GÇ£going from armour to shieldsGÇ¥ argument everyone throws around; weGÇÖve had both shield and armour based suits for the whole time. It has been up to the players to make a decision on which tank type they want and spec into that. If all you ever wanted was the Caldari scout, then why would you spec into Gallente assault? Or if it was the Gallente heavy that you wanted, then Caldari logi probably wasnGÇÖt your best choice. CCP is introducing new suits, not roles. I donGÇÖt know why people feel entitled to role changes all of a sudden. If youGÇÖve rocked the Gallente logi with rep hives all this time, IGÇÖm sure you have reaped more benefits than suffered. .ß¦óß¦î+ÿ+ÿß¦ÿß¦Å ß¦ó+ê+æß¦åß¦Åß¦ë - -Æß¦£ß¦îß¦îß+¦ Qß¦+ß¦Çß¦îß¦ë-ô-ù-+ß¦å ß¦áß¦Éß¦Ü+½ß¦â.
Malkai Inos Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1227	Posted - 2014.03.12 19:13:00 - [1063] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Malkai Inos wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: All I know is that this thread proves that CCP never had any intent to open up a dialogue with us on this issue. There has been no reason given for their decision, no explanation on what was discussed to arrive to this decision, and no explanation as to why we've been banished to Level R to talk amongst ourselves. Why were we simply not told "No" I still fail to see how you came to that conclusion, seing that their answer demonstrably turned out not to be "No". A "yes, but" might not be what you asked for, maybe not even enough, but that's still not the complete negative you make it out to be. The simple fact is that it isn't fair across the board. Some players are hit harder by this, players who patiently waited for backlogged content. It is a short sighted fix, and I could even forgive that, if they would just talk to us. Apparently even the CPM was pushing for this, yet they still turned it down. Why Where is the dialogue? Where is the reasoning? Why does CCP feel that having skills that don't synergize is good? Why have they banished us to Level R if for no other reason than containment, since discussion was quite clearly not their goal? A compromise is never fair across the board and, honestly, I did the math while writing my above post, not knowing whether it even ends up supporting the argument I was trying to make but it turned out surprisingly close to the painful compromise I expected it to be. Yes, some are hit harder then others. But that includes the ones who have personal, real worries about what kind of precedent any form of respec might pose and whether it might end up being the one to finally break the dam for a progression system they didn't sign up for when they joined the game. You might disagree with these worries and you have every right to do so but they're there nonetheless. And I have to stress again. The CPM pushed for a full infantry respec and got a partial one. That might not be the full extend of what they asked for but they were not turned down by any means. My little crappy math tells me that the vast majority of players got granted more than they were denied. That's what a compromise is all about. Neither gets exactly what they would like so that neither is left completely in the "dust"(huehue). Regarding this thread's existence, it's probably a combination of those two: The idealist says: It's there so that the community can have a focused discussion for devs to look at and asses the overall of a need/demand for a respec along with the supporting arguments from either side. The cynic says: It's there purely to contain the discussion and prevent these threads from flooding the rest of the forum to its detriment. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
Malkai Inos Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1227	Posted - 2014.03.12 19:15:00 - [1064] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Want to take bets on when the first new respec thread pops up after the 25th? - that is a serious request. 50M ISK said it's probably before that. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
Sleepy Shadow L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 112	Posted - 2014.03.12 19:21:00 - [1065] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Also: Am I the only one around here who thinks that variety doesn't hurt? Even with the respec I'll spec into 3 suits again. And I'll also spec into a new weapon. Heck. How many SP do you have? 1 million? If yes, then your character is way too young anyways to care about stuff like respecs. No, youGÇÖre not. I donGÇÖt see myself using the Gallente assault suit IGÇÖve had since Uprising but IGÇÖm still dumping all the refunded SP right back in it. I havenGÇÖt really used the suit since I got my Amarr logi, but I still want it. One day CCP will change the slots or stats on assault suits as well, and maybe I get some use out of it. My suits come 1.8: proto Gallente assault, proto Gallente scout, proto Gallente heavy andGÇª proto Amarr logi Sorry Gallente logi, that sidearm... While thereGÇÖs not much mixing with tank types I still have SP invested in shield skills. I have been eyeballing that Minmitar heavyGÇª Caldari scout intrigues me tooGÇª .ß¦óß¦î+ÿ+ÿß¦ÿß¦Å ß¦ó+ê+æß¦åß¦Åß¦ë - -Æß¦£ß¦îß¦îß+¦ Qß¦+ß¦Çß¦îß¦ë-ô-ù-+ß¦å ß¦áß¦Éß¦Ü+½ß¦â.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12195	Posted - 2014.03.12 19:22:00 - [1066] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Malkai Inos wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: All I know is that this thread proves that CCP never had any intent to open up a dialogue with us on this issue. There has been no reason given for their decision, no explanation on what was discussed to arrive to this decision, and no explanation as to why we've been banished to Level R to talk amongst ourselves. Why were we simply not told "No" I still fail to see how you came to that conclusion, seing that their answer demonstrably turned out not to be "No". A "yes, but" might not be what you asked for, maybe not even enough, but that's still not the complete negative you make it out to be. The simple fact is that it isn't fair across the board. Some players are hit harder by this, players who patiently waited for backlogged content. It is a short sighted fix, and I could even forgive that, if they would just talk to us. Apparently even the CPM was pushing for this, yet they still turned it down. Why Where is the dialogue? Where is the reasoning? Why does CCP feel that having skills that don't synergize is good? Why have they banished us to Level R if for no other reason than containment, since discussion was quite clearly not their goal? A compromise is never fair across the board and, honestly, I did the math while writing my above post, not knowing whether it even ends up supporting the argument I was trying to make but it turned out surprisingly close to the painful compromise I expected it to be. Yes, some are hit harder then others. But that includes the ones who have personal, real worries about what kind of precedent any form of respec might pose and whether it might end up being the one to finally break the dam for a progression system they didn't sign up for when they joined the game. You might disagree with these worries and you have every right to do so but they're there nonetheless. And I have to stress again. The CPM pushed for a full infantry respec and got a partial one. That might not be the full extend of what they asked for but they were not turned down by any means. My little crappy math tells me that the vast majority of players got granted more than they were denied. That's what a compromise is all about. Neither gets exactly what they would like so that neither is left completely in the "dust"(huehue). Regarding this thread's existence, it's probably a combination of those two: The idealist says: It's there so that the community can have a focused discussion for devs to look at and asses the overall of a need/demand for a respec along with the supporting arguments from either side. The cynic says: It's there purely to contain the discussion and prevent these threads from flooding the rest of the forum to its detriment. I pre planned for this anyways, so it doesn't really effect me other than not being able to switch heavy to scout (which I haven't once complained about because while I don't agree with it, I accept that it's what CCP wants) I have better ** to be doing right now lol o7 LEVEL R** Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Malkai Inos Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1229	Posted - 2014.03.12 19:23:00 - [1067] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: LEVEL R Still no clue what that means. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 372	Posted - 2014.03.12 19:38:00 - [1068] - Quote Im siply DISGUSTED by this DECISION. CCP just showed once more, how THEY respecting our COMMUNITY. Thins is just NOTHING what we WANTED. We were ALL open to discussion, but right NOW they LIED once AGAIN. No discussion was STARTED between COMMUNITY and ccp. This is just OUTRAGEOUS. Why they OPEN this THREAD, just because THEY wanted to put US like STRONG voice, LIKE the RAISED FIST of COMMUNITY from global DISCUSION. And now thez want to GIVE us just another UNFINISHED thing. CCP you did this REALLY really WRONG. There is REASON why INFANTRY wanted full RESPEC anfter whole bunch of YOUR bad steps. This is NOT over, there WILL be more and MORE VOICES from us, from a PLAYERS. How CCP can do this to US to COMMUNITY, to the CUSTOMERS. If they WANT to repeat SAME deblacle like monocle in EvE just go AHEAD, you are just FEW steps from TRESHOLD. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns 40	Posted - 2014.03.12 19:42:00 - [1069] - Quote While I appreciate the dropsuit command respec, I certainly think that a full infantry respec was in order. I feel that CCP dropped the ball here, but the solution is simple. I'm still planning to take a bit of time off and let my passive boosters continue to roll and do their job. When I come back I'll be able to get my core skills all maxed and then get my Minmatar Commando. Cheers.
BARDAS Shining Flame Amarr Empire 783	Posted - 2014.03.12 19:56:00 - [1070] - Quote Looks like a dropsuit command respec is all we are getting. Filed a support ticket and got a less than favorable response.

PEW JACKSON Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 234	Posted - 2014.03.12 20:02:00 - [1071] - Quote BARDAS wrote: Looks like a dropsuit command respec is all we are getting. Filed a support ticket and got a less than favorable response. Riding in the same boat... More players will leave. Fewer players will come back to check. Nobody will regret their decision(except CCP). Dead on the ground.... Think I made a wrong turn :/
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 373	Posted - 2014.03.12 20:06:00 - [1072] - Quote PEW JACKSON wrote: BARDAS wrote: Looks like a dropsuit command respec is all we are getting. Filed a support ticket and got a less than favorable response. Riding in the same boat... More players will leave. Fewer players will come back to check. Nobody will regret their decision(except CCP). Same boat here, dont worry boyos Destiny is on the corner. I still pray the will change thir mind, right now i basicaly have them for nothing else than liers. They told there was communication, no there wasnt. Andi basicaly dont buying story with CPMs, no CCP just Bshate with our COMMUNITY once more. Support* - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Mell caneva Megadex-ESP 18	Posted - 2014.03.12 20:06:00 - [1073] - Quote HAHAHA, really CCP? There are more than 50 pages of discusion and us only do that? A command respec. Ok, but now us have know there will lost more than 20000 players and we dont will buy more aurums again hahahahaha Yo no estoy loco, solo estoy demente. Diario de Jhonatan (XBOXER091)
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1925	Posted - 2014.03.12 20:10:00 - [1074] - Quote Went straight to pure QQ on this thread, guess I am done here. I am so tired of hearing you all cry for something and then crying more when you got it. Yeah I am going to say it...HTFU and don't bother with replying because I will not even know you did because I am un tagging this thread, my job here is done. Thank you and good night. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 373	Posted - 2014.03.12 20:12:00 - [1075] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Went straight to pure QQ on this thread, guess I am done here. I am so tired of hearing you all cry for something and then crying more when you got it. Yeah I am going to say it...HTFU and don't bother with replying because I will not even know you did because I am un tagging this thread, my job here is done. Thank you and good night. Just go Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12200	Posted - 2014.03.12 20:15:00 - [1076] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: LEVEL R Still no clue what that means. Anyways. I am generally unaffected by this blunder, as I planned ahead of time for just such an occasion. Just wanted to voice how I felt about the way the whole thing was handled, and I look forward to seeing how the community responds to it as time goes on. o7 Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Espeon Bons Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 62	Posted - 2014.03.12 20:22:00 - [1077] - Quote Seriously no weapons respec? Why? Vehicles got their turrets respeced -_- and weapons were changed more than ever ....-_- no forward motion here
Ace Starburst PiZzA DuDeS 69	Posted - 2014.03.12 20:26:00 - [1078] - Quote Meh, I'm good. I was mostly interested in going from Amarr heavy to Caldari Heavy and maxing out shield extenders. So I got that covered. Apart from that it would have been nice to drop points out of SMG and Scrambler Rifle, then maxing out Scrambler Pistol. Maybe drop hacking skills and a few other things that make me flexible for another heavy. On the other hand, maxed hacking skills are pretty darn nice for a lone heavy. Cheers mates.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 373	Posted - 2014.03.12 20:26:00 - [1079] - Quote Espeon Bons wrote: Seriously no weapons respec? Why? Vehicles got their turrets respeced -_- and weapons were changed more than ever ....-_- no forward motion here Exactly CCP just made another mistake. I STILL dont understand who ARIVES with this BSHATE. Support* - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Mell caneva Megadex-ESP 18	Posted - 2014.03.12 20:29:00 - [1080] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Due to the excesive spamming of topics related to the possibility of a respec, all discussion about respecs must take place in this thread. This includes any posts in support or against a respec. Any other topics anywhere else on the forums will be locked or deleted, and linked to this thread, and repeated starting new topics may result in a warning or bans as per the forum rules. Note that this is not a confirmation that we will or will not be providing a respec in 1.8, this is merely a venue to discuss it. Us have 1.072 comments on that post and you have 20.300 visits. You know all the players and money us will lost if only give us a dropsuit respec? Yo no estoy loco, solo estoy demente. Diario de Jhonatan (XBOXER091)



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