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Sleepy Shadow
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Posted - 2014.03.12 19:08:00 -
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Lycuo wrote:If we get a respec of dropsuit command and you are going to change from a armor tanked suit to a sheild tank suit due to the change in how crappy your armor suits are...
Why would we not be able to reassign our dropsuit upgrades to accommodate the change in suit type. Also, lets say i used to be minmatar logi for the hacking speed and i had systems hacking to compliment that suit, why would i want to use that too when i respec to a heavy that isnt going to be using hacking mods.
On top of this when you change the effect of a proficiency for a gun, i would not allocate the extra skillpoints for levels 4 and 5 for this skill. That is almost 2 mil skillpoints that i could get back from 2 guns... This is again not quite fair...
TANKS HAD NOTHING CHANGE WITH RESPECT TO THEIR GUNS BUT THEY GOT RESPECS TO TURRET OPERATION SKILLS...
please CCP do the right thing and allow the dropsuits to respec everything due to the massive changes in bonus and passive skills.
Hacking skill gives you a bonus to hacking speed as well. Your heavy hacks 25% faster even if you donGÇÖt use mods. What is wrong with that? How is that wasted SP? You feel that lower hacking speed is somehow better? Anytime IGÇÖve used an alt with no skills in hacking it has been a painful experience to hack anything. It just feels so damn slow without the skill.
The change to proficiency means your gun does not excel against the tank type it was not made for. This change is wonderful and long overdue. But why would you not want more damage on your gun? If you have AR proficiency at 5, your gun gets 15% extra damage against shields but youGÇÖre saying youGÇÖd be happy with 9% given the choice? So your STD AR is a GEK instead of Duvolle?
And regarding the GÇ£going from armour to shieldsGÇ¥ argument everyone throws around; weGÇÖve had both shield and armour based suits for the whole time. It has been up to the players to make a decision on which tank type they want and spec into that. If all you ever wanted was the Caldari scout, then why would you spec into Gallente assault? Or if it was the Gallente heavy that you wanted, then Caldari logi probably wasnGÇÖt your best choice.
CCP is introducing new suits, not roles. I donGÇÖt know why people feel entitled to role changes all of a sudden. If youGÇÖve rocked the Gallente logi with rep hives all this time, IGÇÖm sure you have reaped more benefits than suffered.
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Sleepy Shadow
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Posted - 2014.03.12 19:21:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Also: Am I the only one around here who thinks that variety doesn't hurt? Even with the respec I'll spec into 3 suits again. And I'll also spec into a new weapon. Heck. How many SP do you have? 1 million? If yes, then your character is way too young anyways to care about stuff like respecs.
No, youGÇÖre not. I donGÇÖt see myself using the Gallente assault suit IGÇÖve had since Uprising but IGÇÖm still dumping all the refunded SP right back in it. I havenGÇÖt really used the suit since I got my Amarr logi, but I still want it. One day CCP will change the slots or stats on assault suits as well, and maybe I get some use out of it.
My suits come 1.8: proto Gallente assault, proto Gallente scout, proto Gallente heavy andGǪ proto Amarr logi  Sorry Gallente logi, that sidearm...
While thereGÇÖs not much mixing with tank types I still have SP invested in shield skills. I have been eyeballing that Minmitar heavyGǪ Caldari scout intrigues me tooGǪ
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Sleepy Shadow
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Posted - 2014.03.12 22:52:00 -
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501st Headstrong wrote:Full Respec because:
Choice. I don't need people telling me, the extra shields may come in handy, I want to choose whether I want them. Don't need uplinks if I'm going Heavy. New suits, new chance to change roles, since many people's gameplay styles are changing. I want a choice, which I was not given.
Weaponry because new guns are being added, want the choice to spec out of ARs, since they were a main weapon. You guys keep saying shouldn't have specced in.
What the hell were we supposed to use? Melees? We get the insanely strong Rail Rifle, and then wait 3 months for a Respec. We get Dropsuit command.
Point where the new suits entitle you to a role change. You could have changed roles at any time before 1.8, why wait until now? If you wanted to be a heavy, why didnGÇÖt you spec into it? I started Uprising as Gallente assault, I have it at proto level, and now I mostly use Amarr logi, which I also have at proto level. I changed roles. It wasnGÇÖt hard actually. Though I must admit, I use my logi for mainly slaying but I have proto equipment nonetheless. I am also able to field a heavy with a proto forge gun or ADV HMG. I have no points in heavy suits though because I didnGÇÖt want to use the Amarr heavy. Tell me, why couldnGÇÖt you do this?
With 1.8 IGÇÖm getting two new suits, Gallente scout and heavy. Two brand spanking new roles for me to play with, two roles I need more SP to fully utilize. But I will have a nice full line up; assault, logi, scout and a heavy. I wouldnGÇÖt dream of giving up my other roles and all my SP spent in weapons, upgrades and equipment only increase my efficiency with any role I want to play.
And not all racial weapons are out so you must feel entitled, yet again, to another respec once we have them. But IGÇÖm sure you, among others, feel that a weapon respec would not suffice then either. No, IGÇÖm sure you feel a full respec is in order in case you want to change roles again.
You are, even as we speak, accruing SP. You get more every day, even if you donGÇÖt play. Use that information wisely.
Happy hunting.
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:45:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:Miokai Zahou wrote:Mwhahaha the tears are so wonderful! If you crybabies want a new role then pull the trigger and go earn that sp or quit I don't care one way or the other. Honestly people like you are disgrace for the human race, you parents should be really proud. But we all know this is issue of sensible upbringing.
Actually, his parents should be proud. It seems they have raised a child who does not feel entitled to whatever their heart desires. They have raised him to work for his achievements, and as such, appreciate them. Sure he could use another lesson on how mocking other people is rude, but other than that, what stellar job they have done.
Most people on this thread though seem to be brats who are used to getting what they want as soon as they want and sadly mixing personal interest with entitlement.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 00:26:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:I never told they didnt and i already apreciate that on other threads.
But honestly do you boyos think its great thing to troll people who dont feel same?!
Because graze on someones rage is not too kind.
Im glad for what we achieve today and im honestly proud, but talking here about b*shates and childish things like these "delicious tears" and other stuff if someone trying to make a point.
Thats not right at all.
If there is people who dont agree with respec, oki but makig bad blood and spaming thread what is here for reason is quite unpolite.
Im not brat who crying here about something, point was there should be some conpensation for any changes and thats all.
All that crying babies and delicious tear thingies will not aprove this discussion.
I was here to support people who thinks same and i will not be blind, how some others just making fun and bad blood here.
I was never bring up in idea be a childish brat who likes to making bad blood or stubborn egoist who like to making fun from other.
Im supporting human beign and if i see good idea i will gald to help with it.
Even if i dont need it personaly.
Thats reason why i start this defence.
Nothing else.
This thread was made to stop the respec thread spam on the forums. While that was the intention it doesnGÇÖt mean a discussion couldnGÇÖt be had. So people who are against, neutral or for respecs are welcome in this thread. So donGÇÖt be surprised if people donGÇÖt agree with you.
You downright insulted another forum goer with GÇ£youGÇÖre a disgrace to human raceGÇ¥ and their parents by insinuating they had failed at their job. I donGÇÖt agree with you, and I pointed out why, but I did agree that he had been rude too. At no point did I say youGÇÖre a brat. I did not name you personally, or say it outright. I merely said that GÇ£most peopleGÇ¥ on this thread seem to be just that.
I wish more people used actual arguments of why a full respec is in order. Most of the posts have been about peopleGÇÖs personal feelings and how they are disappointed and leaving forever if they donGÇÖt get what they want.
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