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Ambiuris Zinum
EL Azteca Empire Amenaza Inminente
28
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Posted - 2014.02.20 21:32:00 -
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EL Azteca Empire is down for a sacrifice. I definetly need a skill respec. Forgeguns are no longer any good. So much SP wasted on the forgegun. I get very few kills. So much time wasted. The heavy suit, The forgegun, all the other skills at level 5 that do not make a deference. Give the skill RESPEC
THANK YOU
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Awry Barux
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
961
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Posted - 2014.02.20 21:49:00 -
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*waves at CCP* hey you all the way over there! A simple "we've read your opinions and have communicated them to the dev team" would be nice. Just that one sentence, please, Logibro? |
Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
590
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Posted - 2014.02.20 21:50:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Due to the excesive spamming of topics related to the possibility of a respec, all discussion about respecs must take place in this thread. This includes any posts in support or against a respec. Any other topics anywhere else on the forums will be locked or deleted, and linked to this thread, and repeated starting new topics may result in a warning or bans as per the forum rules.
Note that this is not a confirmation that we will or will not be providing a respec in 1.8, this is merely a venue to discuss it.
So what you're saying is. You guys have no intention to actually speak on the topic so you're moving it out of sight and out of mind so that it completely dies out. What a joke.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
178
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Posted - 2014.02.20 22:08:00 -
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Cenex Langly wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Due to the excesive spamming of topics related to the possibility of a respec, all discussion about respecs must take place in this thread. This includes any posts in support or against a respec. Any other topics anywhere else on the forums will be locked or deleted, and linked to this thread, and repeated starting new topics may result in a warning or bans as per the forum rules.
Note that this is not a confirmation that we will or will not be providing a respec in 1.8, this is merely a venue to discuss it. So what you're saying is. You guys have no intention to actually speak on the topic so you're moving it out of sight and out of mind so that it completely dies out. What a joke.
Exactly what i told before, just hide it from general.
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calvin b
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
1526
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Posted - 2014.02.20 22:20:00 -
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Respec a 10000000000% Please for the love that is Holy. Please, please, please. I want the role I wanted from the beginning and when the new suits drop I can have what I wanted. So please give me a respec so I can play the role I want to play. CCP please.
A heavy before 1.8
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro
PAND3M0N1UM Lokun Listamenn
188
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Posted - 2014.02.20 22:42:00 -
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Respec Supporter here.
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Cmdr Wolfe
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
50
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Posted - 2014.02.20 22:57:00 -
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i dont know why everyone is requesting respecs... iether CCP are going to give or not simple.. players dont have any say in the matter just letting you all know..
like just becuase everyone wants jetpacks doesnt mean CCP is going to implement them.. they do what the **** they want. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1466
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Posted - 2014.02.20 22:59:00 -
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Let's have a respec every time something changes. That way us vets can do whatever they want without worrying about SP grind, new players benefit little, and decisions mean nothing. It will do wonders for balance because everyone will flock to the most OP thing every time there is an update so it can be immediately nerfed. We are also totally entitled to one because we shouldn't be responsible for our decisions or having the forethought to realize in a game evolving as fast as this one things might change.
Also a game that gives me free passive SP should allow me to be entitled to dictate what is done with it. Screw those guys in EVE who have to pay for theirs, have to update it every 24 hours and still don't get repecs (or SP refunds.... semantics) every time things change or are added.
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echo47
Minmatar Republic
193
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:01:00 -
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No respec.
With the SP events advanced notice of changes we have all had plenty of time to save up skill points.
I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1695
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:02:00 -
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calvin b wrote:Respec a 10000000000% Please for the love that is Holy. Please, please, please. I want the role I wanted from the beginning and when the new suits drop I can have what I wanted. So please give me a respec so I can play the role I want to play. CCP please.
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"You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus."
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Soldiersaint
BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
729
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:03:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Let's have a respec every time something changes. That way us vets can do whatever they want without worrying about SP grind, new players benefit little, and decisions mean nothing. It will do wonders for balance because everyone will flock to the most OP thing every time there is an update so it can be immediately nerfed. We are also totally entitled to one because we shouldn't be responsible for our decisions or having the forethought to realize in a game evolving as fast as this one things might change.
Also a game that gives me free passive SP should allow me to be entitled to dictate what is done with it. Screw those guys in EVE who have to pay for theirs, have to update it every 24 hours and still don't get repecs (or SP refunds.... semantics) every time things change or are added. Hey ****** i skilled into the amarr logi for the regen bonus not a stupid freaking spawn bonus. and now the the minnie logi is getting the epic bonus for healing range and rep amount on rep tools i want the minnie logi even more. so how is that making my own smart choice then? People like you are just unreal. |
Awry Barux
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
971
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:04:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Let's have a respec every time something changes. That way us vets can do whatever they want without worrying about SP grind, new players benefit little, and decisions mean nothing. It will do wonders for balance because everyone will flock to the most OP thing every time there is an update so it can be immediately nerfed. We are also totally entitled to one because we shouldn't be responsible for our decisions or having the forethought to realize in a game evolving as fast as this one things might change.
Also a game that gives me free passive SP should allow me to be entitled to dictate what is done with it. Screw those guys in EVE who have to pay for theirs, have to update it every 24 hours and still don't get repecs (or SP refunds.... semantics) every time things change or are added.
*yawn* I can't believe I'm reposting my words from page 1 for the 4th time this thread. I made good decisions, which are about to become bad decisions in 1.8, through no fault of my own.
Awry Barux wrote:Time to reiterate one more time why I believe a respec is necessary:
I skilled in to the Min Logi for the hack speed bonus. I spent a lot of time thinking about this, and spent my SP on something I was absolutely sure I liked. I've never once used a repair tool in my entire mercenary career, and have 0 SP in them. If you had asked me six months ago "Would you skill in to a suit that gave a bonus to repair tools?", I would have said no, and I will still say no today. My opinion and desired playstyle hasn't changed, but the effects of my carefully considered choices have changed drastically.
That warrants a respec.
As for the "You get unlimited SP" argument, had you read the thread, you would know I've already answered that:
Awry Barux wrote: It DOES matter when this game's major monetization route is items that increase the rate at which you gain SP. I paid good money to wait less, and by making me wait more by changing what skills I need to do what I want to do, CCP is essentially telling me that the money I spent earlier was a waste. Not just that, but that they deliberately made it a waste, by moving the goalposts after I kicked the ball and refusing to allow me to re-do the kick.
I won't quit if there's no respec, but you can be damned sure that I won't be spending another cent on the game.
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4204
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:05:00 -
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Please give us a respec for 1.8.
There has been so many changes to the suits, that there was no way to possibly predict them. We DESERVE a respec.
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Awry Barux
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
971
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:07:00 -
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echo47 wrote:No respec.
With the SP events advanced notice of changes we have all had plenty of time to save up skill points.
Ohhh my god let's play a game called "how many times can I repost answers to arguments I've already dealt with?"
Awry Barux wrote: I've said this 1000 times before and I'll say it again: it is NOT the same thing for you proto-ed vets to save SP as it is for all of us <15mil plebes to save SP. You can perform your role at maximum efficiency while saving SP. For everyone else, we have to directly suffer in the short term (the short term being multiple months) in order to save for CCP's wild changes. So quit playing the holier-than-thou game.
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro
PAND3M0N1UM Lokun Listamenn
190
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:09:00 -
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What suit do you want djinn?
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4209
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:12:00 -
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote:What suit do you want djinn? Amarr scout.
And maybe amarr commando or heavy... Not sure yet
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
566
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:14:00 -
[437] - Quote
CCP Logibro wrote:Due to the excesive spamming of topics related to the possibility of a respec, all discussion about respecs must take place in this thread. This includes any posts in support or against a respec. Any other topics anywhere else on the forums will be locked or deleted, and linked to this thread, and repeated starting new topics may result in a warning or bans as per the forum rules.
Note that this is not a confirmation that we will or will not be providing a respec in 1.8, this is merely a venue to discuss it.
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro
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190
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:15:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote:What suit do you want djinn? Amarr scout. And maybe amarr commando or heavy... Not sure yet
I am thinking Minmatar logi, best repper ever! I rock that six kin and will only see big ups with my rebel slave suit!
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1695
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:16:00 -
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We need to make a good pro and con list real quick
Pro Con Helps noobs Noobs don't have enough SP to matter Helps everyone Players can FotM Everything changed - suit SP Suits are changing but can still be used Everything changed - IRL $ spent You got what you paid for if you have already used the weapon or booster Diversity FotM is not diversity Attract and keep new blood SP isn't to blame for NPE, content and training is Vets come back and stay CCP releases borked gear and the vets will flock to the new OP and still quit b/c borked Choices don't matter Lore "I made bad choices" Respec doesn't help igornace /stupidity "I want to try something new" Try doesn't mean proto, trying is level 1 or 2
Add to the list, I can be swayed either way. Someone told me once that a lawyer never asks a question that they don't know the answer to.
"You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus."
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro
PAND3M0N1UM Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:20:00 -
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FOTM will happen no matter what. It is inevitable. So what does it matter.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
179
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:22:00 -
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Cmdr Wolfe wrote:i dont know why everyone is requesting respecs... iether CCP are going to give or not simple.. players dont have any say in the matter just letting you all know..
like just becuase everyone wants jetpacks doesnt mean CCP is going to implement them.. they do what the **** they want.
You dont know are you?! Do you know there will be another suit?! Do you know new implements will be in?! Do you know there will be changes to mechaniques of weaponry?!
The community need RESPECs just because there will be new things, heavies, arms and more decissions by CCP. Its logic way and to be honest, there in just one proper way how people can improve their roles by their needs and their racial predisposition and thats RESPEC. You just reminds me every one who was against RESPEC, everyone without reason and proper point. Everyone who just call in to the wind his nonsence.
Look how many people here, how many parst of OUR COMMUNITY just right now, or days before RAISED their fists and start this LOGICAL figt for RESPEC. Answer is MANY and everyone put their proper POINTS in to it. EVERYONE is RIGHT. And now take a look on yourself, without reason, without point just saying this nonsence. That ridiculous, nothing else. WE the community of DUST just told HOW we see it, how IT IS and what is NEED. And what is need by COMMUNITY its NEEDED by GAME. That the whole POINT.
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ceeceepee ron
ceeceepeee
3
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:27:00 -
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you guys are getting out of control take a chill and try somthing new i heard that those WAR KITS are really somthin to brag about ehh ehh? |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1524
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:27:00 -
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A respec seems necessary.
My role as a MinLogi is to rush to objectives, lay out uplinks, hack with the speed of one-thousand crack addicts, and dart off into the sunset, leaving all behind me.
I will not be able to do that anymore. |
Awry Barux
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
975
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:29:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:A respec seems necessary.
My role as a MinLogi is to rush to objectives, lay out uplinks, hack with the speed of one-thousand crack addicts, and dart off into the sunset, leaving all behind me.
I will not be able to do that anymore.
I specced into exactly the same role, which is why I'm being such a raging pain about the respec issue. Haven't once used a repair tool, it's the only boring part of Dust. |
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:30:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:A respec seems necessary.
My role as a MinLogi is to rush to objectives, lay out uplinks, hack with the speed of one-thousand crack addicts, and dart off into the sunset, leaving all behind me.
I will not be able to do that anymore.
Funny that as a gal rep logi I will be filling your boots....
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
180
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:31:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:We need to make a good pro and con list real quick
Pro Helps noobs Helps everyone Everything changed - suit SP Everything changed - IRL $ spent Diversity Attract and keep new blood Vets come back and stay Choices don't matter "I made bad choices" "I want to try something new"
Con Noobs don't have enough SP to matter Players can FotM Suits are changing but can still be used You got what you paid for if you have already used the weapon or booster FotM is not diversity SP isn't to blame for NPE, content and training is CCP releases borked gear and the vets will flock to the new OP and still quit b/c borked Lore Respec doesn't help igornace /stupidity Try doesn't mean proto, trying is level 1 or 2
Add to the list, I can be swayed either way. Someone told me once that a lawyer never asks a question that they don't know the answer to.
There is no cons, how you can put decission of CCP put in cons. Their Fault are their faults and fais. That not about RESPEC. RESPEC itself is help in big implements and changes to game. If they make bad decission and players ergo COMMUNITY are damaged by it, there should be ..wait there MAY be a chance to overcome that by respec. COMMUNITY cant be PUSHED to something what wasnt their IDEA. Thats pure nonsence. BTW dividing playerbase only on Vets and Noobs is not good at all, thats frst thing. Second one FOTM is again a CCPs fault (they made issue in balacings not the players). Suits will have different Impact with new implements, what is another reason VOTING for RESPEC. And finally.
ONLY IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY IS AGAINST RESPEC
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Varjac Theobroma Montenegro
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:31:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:A respec seems necessary.
My role as a MinLogi is to rush to objectives, lay out uplinks, hack with the speed of one-thousand crack addicts, and dart off into the sunset, leaving all behind me.
I will not be able to do that anymore. I specced into exactly the same role, which is why I'm being such a raging pain about the respec issue. Haven't once used a repair tool, it's the only boring part of Dust.
Ah, two pairs of boots. I will be a man of fashion!
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ThePlayerkyle13
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
65
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:37:00 -
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Why do people & CCP treat DUST as a full game? Its not a full game, its still unfinished, plus their loads of content thats needs reviewing after each patch so a full respec is important so that we review it for CCP to patch & fix. Now when the game is polished we should have our final full respec but atm the game is gimped. |
Sneaky Fletcher
Three-body Solution
65
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:43:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:Tallen Ellecon wrote:-snip- Time to reiterate one more time why I believe a respec is necessary: "Would you skill in to a suit that gave a bonus to repair tools?" "unlimited SP" argument: I paid good money to wait less, and by making me wait more by changing what skills I need to do what I want to do, CCP is essentially telling me that the money I spent earlier was a waste. Not just that, but that they deliberately made it a waste, by moving the goalposts after I kicked the ball and refusing to allow me to re-do the kick. I won't quit if there's no respec, but you can be damned sure that I won't be spending another cent on the game.
I support an SP refund because I made a choice to specialize and spend skill points on a skill tree that has been the same way for quite some time--> My grinding was focused and so was every transaction that I made. Current skill tree is radically different--> EULA states things will change so they reserve the right to refund or say HTFU
IF A) CCP doesn't refund then SP some people will not mind the change (HTFU) others will leave
B) CCP gives refund then people can spec into new skill tree accordingly with Skill Points that they earned and some people stay others STILL leave because MGSV TTG's TWD Dark Souls 2 etc etc etc
From A and B what makes more money? which makes the playerbase bitter and conspicuous towards CCP?(regardless of their staying or leaving) |
Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1727
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:43:00 -
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lol, it's going to happen.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
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