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Shiyou Hidiyoshi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 285	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:23:00 - [31] - Quote The game has a small playerbase so CCP should really just toss aside their "developing morales" and just give the respec. Giving a respec makes people happy and able to deal with the game changes that are going to be big next update. No respec is bringing Dust one step closer to failing... but hey! At least you can say "we never gave in!" and stuck with your guns and didn't give the players what they wanted. I am sure the other video game companies will give you a thumps up and say "good job! Who needs a game to actually have a decent amount of people playing it anyways?". Look at the pros and cons but look at something very closely CCP. Will you go against what you want to do in order to help the players stay and give Dust more time? CCP Lockingbro needs help! Sign!
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1841	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:29:00 - [32] - Quote Those against a respec are patently insane. They have no valid argument against one. I've made the argument in favor of a respec multiple times. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 416	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:31:00 - [33] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Due to the excesive spamming of topics related to the possibility of a respec, all discussion about respecs must take place in this thread. This includes any posts in support or against a respec. Any other topics anywhere else on the forums will be locked or deleted, and linked to this thread, and repeated starting new topics may result in a warning or bans as per the forum rules. Note that this is not a confirmation that we will or will not be providing a respec in 1.8, this is merely a venue to discuss it. A respec should be givin because I have a proto amar logi, I have no ise for uplinks because I have 0 sp in them I was a complete noob when I spent 9 mil sp I am no longer going to be a logi, no need for rep tools or nanocircitry, need dampening skills. 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 765	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:32:00 - [34] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Those against a respec are patently insane. They have no valid argument against one. I've made the argument in favor of a respec multiple times. When Spkr agrees with the infantry community on something, you know there can really be no debate about it. Respecs are warranted.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 313	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:33:00 - [35] - Quote As stated in numerous threads Respec on the drop suit command YES Respec on the equipment YES Respec on weapons NO Oh and if tankers got respec wy should not infantry get it? War never changes
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10974	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:35:00 - [36] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: As stated in numerous threads Respec on the drop suit command YES Respec on the equipment YES Respec on weapons NO Oh and if tankers got respec wy should not infantry get it? You have to refund weapons because now suit bonuses will be tied to specific types of weapons, and any heavy who wishes to no longer be a heavy must have those weapons refunded. This game does not have a deep intricate metagame. What it does have is a small playerbase with very few loyal vets left, and plenty of new players who just set the game down thanks to the few vets left who crush them repeatedly thanks to flawed matchmaking which is made worse by said small playerbase. You can roleplay whatever you want, this is simple business here. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 313	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:38:00 - [37] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: As stated in numerous threads Respec on the drop suit command YES Respec on the equipment YES Respec on weapons NO Oh and if tankers got respec wy should not infantry get it? You have to refund weapons because now suit bonuses will be tied to specific types of weapons, and any heavy who wishes to no longer be a heavy must have those weapons refunded. This game does not have a deep intricate metagame. What it does have is a small playerbase with very few loyal vets left, and plenty of new players who just set the game down thanks to the few vets left who crush them repeatedly thanks to flawed matchmaking which is made worse by said small playerbase. You can roleplay whatever you want, this is simple business here. Okey I can buy into that SO RESPEC ON WEAPONS ALSO CCP War never changes
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2025	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:38:00 - [38] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Those against a respec are patently insane. They have no valid argument against one. I've made the argument in favor of a respec multiple times. When Spkr agrees with the infantry community on something, you know there can really be no debate about it. Respecs are warranted. Nah, he just wants his infantry points back for MOAR TANKZ "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1261	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:39:00 - [39] - Quote Okay, so lets take this discussion seriously and present some expected features of 1.8: - TTK will be tuned to be longer. => Dont know what skill tree this will affect, on an "abstract" level: all of them. - New racial content for infantry (heavies and scouts, yay!) => Approx 15-20% added SP sink to dropsuit skill tree. - Complete re-iteration of "old" dropsuit skill bonuses and stats => Change of 100% of current SP sink in dropsuit skill tree. - New weapons => Approx 10-15% more SP sink in weaponry skill tree. - Nerfs to "old" weapons, more specifically rifles => Rifles and SMG in weapon skill tree, estimated 30% of all weapons. - Weapon proficiency skill re-vamped to only affect armor or shield damage (depending on weapon) => Affects 100% of weaponry skill tree. - Over all equipment nerf => Various skills in dropsuit upgrades, estimated 15-20% of the SP sink affected. The points above have touched every infantry skill tree skill (dropsuit upgrades, weaponry and dropsuits). Is there really anything to discuss in this thread CCP? EDIT: Please calculate more exact figures of how many percent of each of the infantry skill trees that are affected, and make an informed decision with those numbers in mind. Drop it like its hat.
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 296	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:41:00 - [40] - Quote Asterion Cretos wrote: Joel II X wrote: Pretty dark in here. I've brought extra torches. You guys want some? You're welcome. On topic. I honestly don't see why we have to fight for this. A Dropsuit Command respec should have been an obvious "yes" given the changes involved. What, a retuning of bonuses, slots, CPU and pg? That's some entitlement speaking if you think it's anything close to 'we are temporarily removing all minmatar dropsuits you might have them back one day soon(tm)" or "we are reworking how dropsuits and their modules are being unlocked so that most suits and modules are unlocked by a single skill". What looks to be happening aside from tweaking of numbers and bonuses is straight additions to trees. If you used your suit properly you'll generally be rewarded, if you didn't you get a slap on the wrist, otherwise the suits function more or less the same. That said I would be in favor of seeing heavy and light suit trees refunded, which I feel is fair - youve had a long time to make your choices with medium suits while there hasn't been any choices for heavies and minimal choices for lights.

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1842	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:43:00 - [41] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Those against a respec are patently insane. They have no valid argument against one. I've made the argument in favor of a respec multiple times. When Spkr agrees with the infantry community on something, you know there can really be no debate about it. Respecs are warranted. As I've said before, I moonlight as infantry. It's cheaper and more versatile, and the only way I can get 5000+ WP in a match. When CCP goes about changing how something works, there's no reason your SP should be stuck in whatever it is. It should be put back into your unallocated pool. It was valid for them to respec vehicle SP, and for 1.8, it will be valid for them to respec infantry SP. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 909	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:45:00 - [42] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Basically confirmed. Don't push CCP... they know we love this game too much so we're asking alot now... *Assassination is my thing.*
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 296	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:45:00 - [43] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: As stated in numerous threads Respec on the drop suit command YES Respec on the equipment YES Respec on weapons NO Oh and if tankers got respec wy should not infantry get it? You have to refund weapons because now suit bonuses will be tied to specific types of weapons, and any heavy who wishes to no longer be a heavy must have those weapons refunded. This game does not have a deep intricate metagame. What it does have is a small playerbase with very few loyal vets left, and plenty of new players who just set the game down thanks to the few vets left who crush them repeatedly thanks to flawed matchmaking which is made worse by said small playerbase. You can roleplay whatever you want, this is simple business here. From a marketing perspective it's better to lose one bitter vet to draw 5 new players than it is to give one bitter vet a respec so he can abuse the newest fotm and chase away five new players. The vet has made his investment and its harder to keep him happy and retain him than it is to draw new players and get them excited about 400k more sp for an omega booster.
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 995	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:46:00 - [44] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Due to the excesive spamming of topics related to the possibility of a respec, all discussion about respecs must take place in this thread. This includes any posts in support or against a respec. Any other topics anywhere else on the forums will be locked or deleted, and linked to this thread, and repeated starting new topics may result in a warning or bans as per the forum rules. Note that this is not a confirmation that we will or will not be providing a respec in 1.8, this is merely a venue to discuss it. Respec is not deemed necessary because: 1. Almost all incoming changes to current assets are enhancements, RR and CR tweaks were expected 2. Work on Infantry AV vs vehicles is not declared finished 3. Changes to Logi suits were expected, it's not supposed to be a slayer suit 4. We had anticipation of new content coming for 1.8, for that I saved up at least 3.5 million SP 5. Skill tree is remaining mostly intact (unlike 1.7) Uprising 1.7 - TANKDOMINATION!!1!!1! LOL Battle Academy LOL Plasma Cannon
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 258	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:49:00 - [45] - Quote Dear CCP, I know you are adverse to the idea of respecs. As Atli Mar said at EVE Vegas in the DUST keynote, the cost of rebalancing is substantial and is disruptive for the community and for you guys. While New Eden is built partly on the premise of living with your choices but there are several good reasons for a respec: Overdue racial parity Racial parity should have been in the game when you launched back in May 2013 but it wasn't. People have spent time and AUR to spec into what we were given but in all fairness had this stuff been in for launch it would have all been taken care of back then. One final respec is all that's needed now that this large (missing) chunk of the game is about to role out. Everything has changed! A lot of the freedom that we have at the moment is being taken away via more accurate racial tech affinities. There will be many with dropsuits and weapons that simply don't synergise. A full infantry respec is the right thing to do here. Increased lore awareness and faction loyalty I have seen many in the community who have found an affinity to one race or another for whatever reasons. I know that I want to go ALL Gallente on my 32 mill SP main and Minmatar on Covert, my 3 mill SP pride and joy. Support the community's love of the lore/races with a respec. We have been loyal We have stayed and supported your game over the past 2 years. We have bought AUR for a game that is incomplete, has been broken, had exploits and things like the 3 month tank stomp that took place when you made vehicles god mode. With PS4 here and many other games around, don't ** on those who have done their part to support your game. If DUST has a 10 year roadmap (and beyond?) then what is one final respec after the first year of release. I don't support respecs normally. I spent my SP wisely on things that accommodated my own strengths and never chased FotMs and I am 100% behind 'living with your choices' but with massive sweping changes and as a reward for enduring the *** clusterfuck of tank ** we had for the last quarter year, do your fanbase right. Sincerely COVERT Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 417	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:51:00 - [46] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Due to the excesive spamming of topics related to the possibility of a respec, all discussion about respecs must take place in this thread. This includes any posts in support or against a respec. Any other topics anywhere else on the forums will be locked or deleted, and linked to this thread, and repeated starting new topics may result in a warning or bans as per the forum rules. Note that this is not a confirmation that we will or will not be providing a respec in 1.8, this is merely a venue to discuss it. Respec is not deemed necessary because: 1. Almost all incoming changes to current assets are enhancements, RR and CR tweaks were expected 2. Work on Infantry AV vs vehicles is not declared finished 3. Changes to Logi suits were expected, it's not supposed to be a slayer suit 4. We had anticipation of new content coming for 1.8, for that I saved up at least 3.5 million SP 5. Skill tree is remaining mostly intact (unlike 1.7) All I see is "I have 30 mil sp idgaf about anyone else" 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10977	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:52:00 - [47] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: As stated in numerous threads Respec on the drop suit command YES Respec on the equipment YES Respec on weapons NO Oh and if tankers got respec wy should not infantry get it? You have to refund weapons because now suit bonuses will be tied to specific types of weapons, and any heavy who wishes to no longer be a heavy must have those weapons refunded. This game does not have a deep intricate metagame. What it does have is a small playerbase with very few loyal vets left, and plenty of new players who just set the game down thanks to the few vets left who crush them repeatedly thanks to flawed matchmaking which is made worse by said small playerbase. You can roleplay whatever you want, this is simple business here. From a marketing perspective it's better to lose one bitter vet to draw 5 new players than it is to give one bitter vet a respec so he can abuse the newest fotm and chase away five new players. The vet has made his investment and its harder to keep him happy and retain him than it is to draw new players and get them excited about 400k more sp for an omega booster. That same vet is going to stomp the crap out of those same noobs no matter if he has to stick with his currently maxed out build or a new one. What that vet leaving DOES do is make one less person who could be around to help out those new players, showing them the ropes, giving them tips and a reason to aspire to max out their builds. It also doesn't help when former players begin to talk down about the game, giving even more bad reviews, and further pushing new players from even downloading the game in the first place. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1277	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:53:00 - [48] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Due to the excesive spamming of topics related to the possibility of a respec, all discussion about respecs must take place in this thread. This includes any posts in support or against a respec. Any other topics anywhere else on the forums will be locked or deleted, and linked to this thread, and repeated starting new topics may result in a warning or bans as per the forum rules. Note that this is not a confirmation that we will or will not be providing a respec in 1.8, this is merely a venue to discuss it. Thanks. The discussion I see is does CCP want to keep the playerbase they have and bring back some players that left?? OR: Do they want to take a chance and anger part of the playerbase leading to lower player counts?? As I see it something needs to be done in the face of many arriving PS4 games that will be here by June alongside the gameing news of E3. Its not is it right or wrong but instead what CCP CHOICE will keep the higher numbers of players on Dust 514. That is the true discussion at hand. Tick, tock, tick, tock, Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Scalesdini BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 338	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:54:00 - [49] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: As stated in numerous threads Respec on the drop suit command YES Respec on the equipment YES Respec on weapons NO Oh and if tankers got respec wy should not infantry get it? You have to refund weapons because now suit bonuses will be tied to specific types of weapons, and any heavy who wishes to no longer be a heavy must have those weapons refunded. This game does not have a deep intricate metagame. What it does have is a small playerbase with very few loyal vets left, and plenty of new players who just set the game down thanks to the few vets left who crush them repeatedly thanks to flawed matchmaking which is made worse by said small playerbase. You can roleplay whatever you want, this is simple business here. From a marketing perspective it's better to lose one bitter vet to draw 5 new players than it is to give one bitter vet a respec so he can abuse the newest fotm and chase away five new players. The vet has made his investment and its harder to keep him happy and retain him than it is to draw new players and get them excited about 400k more sp for an omega booster. Wrong. Vets have millions of SP sitting unallocated waiting for new FOTM crap to drop at any given time. Furthermore most of us have been around long enough to know what skills to make a priority from the days of 20m sp PER DAY beta testing. Not giving a respec hurts new players the worst, because they're the ones who can't afford to be sitting on 5m unallocated waiting for new stuff to come out. On top of that, new player retention in this game is almost nonexistent. It's not losing 1 vet to gain 5 new players, it's losing 10 new players to keep 1 40m SP guy happy because the mountain of SP he's sitting on ensures he'll be able to use the most FOTM gear on top of all of his maxed out core skills and all proto everything, knowing that without a respec, those sub-15m SP guys will have even less of a chance than they did before. On top of all that, it punishes dedicated heavies and scouts who have chosen to play the game at all since beta, because we've had little or no options on which suit to pick. I have only ever played heavy, so my options were go amarr, or not play at all. Punishing people for actually playing the game would be an unwise decision for CCP to make. I for one will be gone if I'm forced to keep the amarr sentinel for one second after 1.8 comes out.
Appia Vibbia Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1224	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:54:00 - [50] - Quote I am for an SP refund. In Dropsuit Command: Heavy/Sentinel/Commando, we're going from 1 to 4 available. I think it is important to refund the SP invested in heavy frames because it will increase dropsuit diversity. The alternative is leaving the lower SP character debating whether to finish investing SP into heavy or choose to start over in the race they actually want. On the higher SP characters it will mean that everyone has a proto heavy and only those that can afford it will be using the new Racial heavies. Logistics suits, we're going from bonuses that affect a playstlye to bonuses that affect equipment only. People went Minmatar because of the hacking bonus, people used Amarr to dual tank (lol ok, no one actually went Amarr Logistics to actually play as a support role) the Caldari are the actual Combat Logi with its extra slot it traded for an equipment, and Gallente being slow tanks that can distribute anything. I'm not a big fan of the new bonuses as I don't feel the "racial equipment" matches the suits very well, but this is a huge reason for it to be refunded. The Assault suit don't have a very strong argument to refund the SP invested in them in their own right. The Scout is going from 2 suits to 4 suits. It has the situation of the heavy suits, the people invested in them already are the primary people that will continue to use the suit. Increasing the diversity on the field. The scout suit and heavy suit additions are a reason to do medium frame refund in full. Some people have claimed that they would skill into the suit that are going to be released long ago but were using medium frames until they were released. Dropsuit Upgrades: I'm not particularly partial to the refunding of SP in this tree. Unless going from a shield tanking suit to an armor tanking one you'll feel like SP in shield regulation and shield recharge are wasted, but really that is it. Weaponry: Certainly people have put SP into the flavor of the month weapons, but that's not a reason to stop the SP in this tree from being refunded. People investing into Heavy and Sentinel won't have the SP to invest in the only 2 heavy weapons we have available. People that want to use Assault or Commando are now limited to only gaining bonuses from their racial weapons. I feel the skills involved are limiting diversity but as long as that is the mindset people should not be punished for putting SP into a weapon that will put them at a disadvantage for using a certain suit. Finally we also have racial parity in the main rifle and in pistols. Again, in the name of field diversity a refund of SP would be healthy for the game. 1.8 is the time for a full infantry respec, the changes happening are too drastic and only punish people by not giving one. Vehicle pilots got theirs in 1.7, infantry need one too. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com (checked every Monday/Wednesday/Friday)

ContraBanJoe FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 335	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:57:00 - [51] - Quote NO MOAR FULL RESPECS It only serves to help the veterans. If something drastic changes to the skills and they are removed, or if vehicles/equipment/weapons/suits are removed, I would support respecs for specific skills, but NEVER again a full respec. ...................__ ............./-¦-»/'...'/-¦-»-»`-+-+ ........../'/.../..../......./-¿-»\ ........('(...-¦...-¦.... -»~/'...') .........\....FWALL...'../ ..........''...\.......... _.-+-¦ ............\..............(
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1461	Posted - 2014.02.17 19:59:00 - [52] - Quote I'd say save the respec for 2.0 in May. No one NEEDS one now. Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy."
Ku Shala Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 869	Posted - 2014.02.17 20:00:00 - [53] - Quote thank "the maker" good luck cleaning all the forum spam up For what is right. For what is ours, Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Join us today! *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä* The States Necromancer
Appia Vibbia Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1226	Posted - 2014.02.17 20:00:00 - [54] - Quote dumbest argument ever: be wary because PS4 exists. Most people didn't get it at launch, most people still don't have one. Hell, I didn't get my PS3 until 2010. Sony announced the PS5 is going to come out within 7 years. Or the new sony stream thing. Don't really need to care about getting a new system. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com (checked every Monday/Wednesday/Friday)
NK Scout Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 418	Posted - 2014.02.17 20:01:00 - [55] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: I'd say save the respec for 2.0 in May. No one NEEDS one now. I do No need for proto amar logi or amar assault No need for amar heavy No need for rep tools because im no longer going to be a logi Etc etc... 2 exiles assault rifles, Skinweave caldari frame, Staff recruiter mlt frame, Templar set Caldari Master Race
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 297	Posted - 2014.02.17 20:01:00 - [56] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: As stated in numerous threads Respec on the drop suit command YES Respec on the equipment YES Respec on weapons NO Oh and if tankers got respec wy should not infantry get it? You have to refund weapons because now suit bonuses will be tied to specific types of weapons, and any heavy who wishes to no longer be a heavy must have those weapons refunded. This game does not have a deep intricate metagame. What it does have is a small playerbase with very few loyal vets left, and plenty of new players who just set the game down thanks to the few vets left who crush them repeatedly thanks to flawed matchmaking which is made worse by said small playerbase. You can roleplay whatever you want, this is simple business here. From a marketing perspective it's better to lose one bitter vet to draw 5 new players than it is to give one bitter vet a respec so he can abuse the newest fotm and chase away five new players. The vet has made his investment and its harder to keep him happy and retain him than it is to draw new players and get them excited about 400k more sp for an omega booster. That same vet is going to stomp the crap out of those same noobs no matter if he has to stick with his currently maxed out build or a new one. What that vet leaving DOES do is make one less person who could be around to help out those new players, showing them the ropes, giving them tips and a reason to aspire to max out their builds. It also doesn't help when former players begin to talk down about the game, giving even more bad reviews, and further pushing new players from even downloading the game in the first place. Debateable, a lot of vets live in ivory towers if some of them leave the game is prettymuch automatically in a better state because there's less people around to kick the crap out of noobs, and a large part of the fun of these games is discovery. Not many vets (especially the bitter vets were discussing) are helpful people. World of Warcraft went through the same pains when they 'changed things' and sacked most of their bitter vets for huge accessibility to new people and casual players.
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 997	Posted - 2014.02.17 20:04:00 - [57] - Quote NK Scout wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Due to the excesive spamming of topics related to the possibility of a respec, all discussion about respecs must take place in this thread. This includes any posts in support or against a respec. Any other topics anywhere else on the forums will be locked or deleted, and linked to this thread, and repeated starting new topics may result in a warning or bans as per the forum rules. Note that this is not a confirmation that we will or will not be providing a respec in 1.8, this is merely a venue to discuss it. Respec is not deemed necessary because: 1. Almost all incoming changes to current assets are enhancements, RR and CR tweaks were expected 2. Work on Infantry AV vs vehicles is not declared finished 3. Changes to Logi suits were expected, it's not supposed to be a slayer suit 4. We had anticipation of new content coming for 1.8, for that I saved up at least 3.5 million SP 5. Skill tree is remaining mostly intact (unlike 1.7) All I see is "I have 30 mil sp idgaf about anyone else" lol everyone who asks for respec just wants to instantly have new PRO gear or doesn't have any sense of progression. I'm interested in new weapons, Scouts and other Assaults but you don't see me crying for respec. Uprising 1.7 - TANKDOMINATION!!1!!1! LOL Battle Academy LOL Plasma Cannon
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10978	Posted - 2014.02.17 20:04:00 - [58] - Quote ContraBanJoe wrote: NO MOAR FULL RESPECS It only serves to help the veterans. If something drastic changes to the skills and they are removed, or if vehicles/equipment/weapons/suits are removed, I would support respecs for specific skills, but NEVER again a full respec. ...................__ ............./-¦-»/'...'/-¦-»-»`-+-+ ........../'/.../..../......./-¿-»\ ........('(...-¦...-¦.... -»~/'...') .........\....FWALL...'../ ..........''...\.......... _.-+-¦ ............\..............( How does it help the vet who's already saved a ton of SP to skill instantly into the new FOTM, or anything for that matter? How does forcing newer players to keep incomplete builds that are now completely wrong help them? Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Zene Ren Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 49	Posted - 2014.02.17 20:05:00 - [59] - Quote no SP cap/limit no respec only SP that can and should be refunded is for instance: we have one heavy suit and in 1.8 they will at last give us all racial variants - refund for only heavy suits nothing more they remodeled vehicles - only vehicles should get refund do not give refund/respec to the whole infantry skills, this will only make a jump on other not yet properly tested FOTM we had all assaults and logi racial variants they DO NOT NEED A RESPEC IMO Balance is the key to achieve knowledge and understanding
Aisha Ctarl Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 3396	Posted - 2014.02.17 20:05:00 - [60] - Quote I support a REFUND, not a RESPEC. There is a difference between the two. A refund refunds you SP within a certain tree to be used again as you wish...a respec refunds ALL of your SP from all trees to be reassigned as you wish. Since in 1.8 the only major changes (that we know of so far) will be to the dropsuits, then I wholeheartedly support a skill REFUND for dropsuits ONLY. It will be a fatal error for CCP to not award a dropsuit refund when they are changing attributes of the suits right from under us. My prediction is that a dropsuit skill REFUND is pretty likely - a RESPEC just simply isn't going to happen, there is nothing to warrant a full respec. I'm a narcissist, LIKE MY POSTS =^,.,^=



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