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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.03.12 20:34:00 -
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Mell caneva wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Due to the excesive spamming of topics related to the possibility of a respec, all discussion about respecs must take place in this thread. This includes any posts in support or against a respec. Any other topics anywhere else on the forums will be locked or deleted, and linked to this thread, and repeated starting new topics may result in a warning or bans as per the forum rules.
Note that this is not a confirmation that we will or will not be providing a respec in 1.8, this is merely a venue to discuss it. Us have 1.072 comments on that post and you have 20.300 visits. You know all the players and money us will lost if only give us a dropsuit respec?
They dont care about players or community.
They know what we, the community of dust wanted.
But they made just this, nothing else than just spit on our faces.
Its pretty sad they dont even gave us a chance to give them a resons why the respec should be full.
These whole things just showed us, how they want fixing things.
Support - Tactician/Support
Deteis - Orator
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Ralden Caster
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
35
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Posted - 2014.03.12 20:54:00 -
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CCP Remnant wrote: After lengthy discussions with the CPM and large amounts of community feedback, the decision has been made to refund all skill points currently spent in the Dropsuit Command tree to playersGÇÖ unallocated SP pools. So, if your preferred racial frame didnGÇÖt previously exist, youGÇÖll be able to switch to one of the newly available suit frames without penalty.
Please note that this change will happen automatically as part of the Uprising 1.8 update and is aimed for deployment on the same day. This will result in all Skill Points invested in to the Dropsuit Command skill tree being refunded, along with the ISK from all affected purchased skill books. Additionally, this may result in players having to retrain previous skills within the Dropsuit Command skill tree.
How about the weaponry tree? Originally, the only rifle available was the assault rifle, and later around 1.0 there was the scrambler rifle. Being the only choices, I heavily specced into AR skills only to be burnt by the rail rifles when they were added. Why not respec weaponry as well?
Minmatar Dropship.
Uprising 1.7.
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
194
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Posted - 2014.03.12 20:59:00 -
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I personally wanted a full infantry specifically to streamline my character, I played a few different styles and found what I like, the other crap is just making my skill list look cluttered with skills I never intend to max. I ultimately wanted my concise skills to be completely 5. Meh, selfish I know...I'll manage. |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Vanguard of the Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:09:00 -
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CCP Logic:
People had to put SP into off-race suits in order to use certain types of suits
CCP Answer:
Respec for dropsuit command
CCP Logic:
People had to put sp into off-race weapons in order to use certain types of weaponry
CCP Answer:
No Respec for weaponry
You guys are horrible and you should feel horrible. |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:12:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:CCP Logic:
People had to put SP into off-race suits in order to use certain types of suits
CCP Answer:
Respec for dropsuit command
CCP Logic:
People had to put sp into off-race weapons in order to use certain types of weaponry
CCP Answer:
No Respec for weaponry
You guys are horrible and you should feel horrible.
Basicaly thats is.
They had poll by community where majority was for full.
They have thread, where we (community) want full or dropsuit/arms.
And even with all this info, they made this.
I just still cant believe how totaly stupid decision they made.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1663
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:14:00 -
[1086] - Quote
o7
*goes to find a better game*
Drop it like its hat.
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:15:00 -
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The post respec announcment QQ is exactly why I'm against respecs all together. If the CPM really wanted respecs and only got us this it's safe to assume CCP doesn't want to give us respecs unless they absolutely have to. As much as I was against having any respec now, I can live with the compromise. We still have the matter of the medium suit slot layouts, so I expect endless QQ and a call for another dropsuit respec when that comes out.
This thread was never intended to be a place where CCP did what we wanted. It was intended to consolidate spam.
Supporter of tiericide, EVE interaction, and a proper NPE SoonGäó514
"No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:24:00 -
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Community wanted something else, end of story.
We told that here, we made a poll and they basicaly didnt listen.
Majority was for full or dropsuit/arms RESPEC and thez gave us just cut of it.
Hell even if there is new implements.
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Awesome Pantaloons
Lokapalas.
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:25:00 -
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Yeah, doubt this will get read, but honestly we deserve a weapon respect as well.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Malkai Inos
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
1233
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:35:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Yeah, doubt this will get read, but honestly we deserve a weapon respect as well. It is being read alright and, boy, it is a feast.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
276
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:39:00 -
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CCP, it was wrong of you to show any weakness to this community. A mindless mob knows no compassion, They will continue and continue to cry and qq for a respect quoting this day until the end of Dust demanding a SP Refund IE respect for any and all reasons. The CPM has lost sight of the longterm picture :(.
Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1.
Original ROF needs to return!
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Vanguard of the Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:40:00 -
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So CCP obviously knows that the vast majority of the community wants an infantry respec.
CCP has actively been locking any/all threads that mention respecs to try to keep the forums from being flooded.
CCP is acting EXACTLY like EA here.
You wouldn't give EA any money would you?
"We are not ever going to respec weaponry and dropsuit command because the majority of our Aurum gear falls within those
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ThePrinceOfNigeria
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
351
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:48:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:So CCP obviously knows that the vast majority of the community wants an infantry respec.
CCP has actively been locking any/all threads that mention respecs to try to keep the forums from being flooded.
CCP is acting EXACTLY like EA here.
You wouldn't give EA any money would you?
Does this surprise you? They hired a guy who used to work for EA and he is in charge of pretty much the whole thing no? |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:51:00 -
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They like EA and Randy Pitchford together.
Just nothing else, than disapointing.
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501st Headstrong
G0DS AM0NG MEN
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
150
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:58:00 -
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This Respec is just ridiculous. I could give reasons, but I don't feel like being called an ungrateful player. We have over 50 pages of discussion to you guys, but you players don't care. So neither do I. Last time I post on this topic
Full Respec because:
Choice. I don't need people telling me, the extra shields may come in handy, I want to choose whether I want them. Don't need uplinks if I'm going Heavy. New suits, new chance to change roles, since many people's gameplay styles are changing. I want a choice, which I was not given.
Weaponry because new guns are being added, want the choice to spec out of ARs, since they were a main weapon. You guys keep saying shouldn't have specced in.
What the hell were we supposed to use? Melees? We get the insanely strong Rail Rifle, and then wait 3 months for a Respec. We get Dropsuit command.
No Problem. I'll play Dust. But I refuse to be insulted by the blind fools on this forum. If you want to know why we QQ, read all 50 pages. Please, just read it. I will give 10 million Isk to the person who realizes they argued against the wrong QQer.
Peace. If I see any of you insulters in battle, I will kill you, and then tea bag you. YOU WILL RAGE QUit. Threat sent. =D
IDGAF who you are. You shot at my Corp, now I WILL kill you. Only question is: Will you fight back?
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Karl Marx II
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
389
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:59:00 -
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CCP DEVS Justify why its a dropsuit command sp refund only ... I want to know how you came to that decision
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
534
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Posted - 2014.03.12 22:09:00 -
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We've reached over 1000 post for a Full Respec.
WE DESERVED IT.
Anyway no respec, will makes lot of player give up this game, since losing 6 months of playing everytime you release new things start being REALLY annoying.
We finally have the Full Racial Line Up, this was the PERFECT opportunity to have a full Respec.
It's not going to happen twice.
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Interplanetary Insanitarium
293
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Posted - 2014.03.12 22:13:00 -
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Good job CCP, you made all these kids cry.
It probably means nothing to you but I appreciate the dropsuit respec and the unfathomable tears of rage.
They're unfathomable because I have no clue why people are butthurt about getting something.
If fists were food you'd be full right now.
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Mordecai Sanguine
What The French
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Posted - 2014.03.12 22:22:00 -
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Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:Good job CCP, you made all these kids cry.
It probably means nothing to you but I appreciate the dropsuit respec and the unfathomable tears of rage.
They're unfathomable because I have no clue why people are butthurt about getting something.
You're not seing far these 2 weeks i suppose ?
1.8 is the Full Racial Line Up. Actually we can't have a better moment to have a Full respec.
You know what it means ?
No respec now means we're NEVER going to have a respec. (When i'm saying never it means NEVER.)
So we're all stuck with the same role for the 3 next year......
You were dying because of water lack, someone threw you an empty water bottle and you're happy.....
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
1596
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Posted - 2014.03.12 22:31:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:We've reached over 1000 post for a Full Respec.
WE DESERVED IT.
Anyway no respec, will makes lot of player give up this game, since losing 6 months of playing everytime you release new things start being REALLY annoying.
We finally have the Full Racial Line Up, this was the PERFECT opportunity to have a full Respec.
It's not going to happen twice.
I was 1000 and I was against having a full respec.
Supporter of tiericide, EVE interaction, and a proper NPE SoonGäó514
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Miokai Zahou
The Southern Legion
League of Infamy
154
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Posted - 2014.03.12 22:39:00 -
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Mwhahaha the tears are so wonderful! If you crybabies want a new role then pull the trigger and go earn that sp or quit I don't care one way or the other.
Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
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Sleepy Shadow
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
112
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Posted - 2014.03.12 22:52:00 -
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501st Headstrong wrote:Full Respec because:
Choice. I don't need people telling me, the extra shields may come in handy, I want to choose whether I want them. Don't need uplinks if I'm going Heavy. New suits, new chance to change roles, since many people's gameplay styles are changing. I want a choice, which I was not given.
Weaponry because new guns are being added, want the choice to spec out of ARs, since they were a main weapon. You guys keep saying shouldn't have specced in.
What the hell were we supposed to use? Melees? We get the insanely strong Rail Rifle, and then wait 3 months for a Respec. We get Dropsuit command.
Point where the new suits entitle you to a role change. You could have changed roles at any time before 1.8, why wait until now? If you wanted to be a heavy, why didnGÇÖt you spec into it? I started Uprising as Gallente assault, I have it at proto level, and now I mostly use Amarr logi, which I also have at proto level. I changed roles. It wasnGÇÖt hard actually. Though I must admit, I use my logi for mainly slaying but I have proto equipment nonetheless. I am also able to field a heavy with a proto forge gun or ADV HMG. I have no points in heavy suits though because I didnGÇÖt want to use the Amarr heavy. Tell me, why couldnGÇÖt you do this?
With 1.8 IGÇÖm getting two new suits, Gallente scout and heavy. Two brand spanking new roles for me to play with, two roles I need more SP to fully utilize. But I will have a nice full line up; assault, logi, scout and a heavy. I wouldnGÇÖt dream of giving up my other roles and all my SP spent in weapons, upgrades and equipment only increase my efficiency with any role I want to play.
And not all racial weapons are out so you must feel entitled, yet again, to another respec once we have them. But IGÇÖm sure you, among others, feel that a weapon respec would not suffice then either. No, IGÇÖm sure you feel a full respec is in order in case you want to change roles again.
You are, even as we speak, accruing SP. You get more every day, even if you donGÇÖt play. Use that information wisely.
Happy hunting.
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Skylight Atoma
The Phoenix Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:03:00 -
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Not that there hasn't been pages of discussion already but this shows that, as with the EVE side of CCP, this division of CCP doesn't play DUST.
Here is one more person done with buying microtransactions after this dropsuit command only respec. I'm not saying I will stop playing altogether because of this, but I will WHEN I get tired of the same dropsuit. As a 17 mil SP toon a dropsuit command respec gives me absolutely no more freedom to use other suits than what I'm currently using.
Just ONE example of why this is bad. The difference between having advanced and prototype tanking mods actually determines the viability of proto suits. I'm not respecing away from my proto Amarr logistics because I want to play Caldari logistics but don't have complex shield extenders while I have complex plates. Then you can say "well that's what LP is for." Then I say "That's a design choice that won't last you for long because grinding out FW games is not fun. 99% of the time you are on one side of the proto stomp." |
excillon
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
355
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:07:00 -
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I love how caldari users get screwed. Every other faction gets better bonuses.id rather have hipfire or bigger clip but I dont want to use gallente or mimmy suits. I like how damage mods get nerfed to force people to use the broken commando class. What was wrong with the bonuses the way they were? I liked my ck0 bonus.
Kiss my ass, ccp. As I said in another post I hope destiny and ps2 bury this game and put ccp shanghai out of a job. |
Interplanetary Insanitarium
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:07:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:Good job CCP, you made all these kids cry.
It probably means nothing to you but I appreciate the dropsuit respec and the unfathomable tears of rage.
They're unfathomable because I have no clue why people are butthurt about getting something. You're not seing far these 2 weeks i suppose ? 1.8 is the Full Racial Line Up. Actually we can't have a better moment to have a Full respec. You know what it means ? No respec now means we're NEVER going to have a respec. (When i'm saying never it means NEVER.) So we're all stuck with the same role for the 3 next year...... You were dying because of water lack, someone threw you an empty water bottle and you're happy.....
It might be an empty water bottle but at least now I have a bottle. 
If fists were food you'd be full right now.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
387
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:07:00 -
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Miokai Zahou wrote:Mwhahaha the tears are so wonderful! If you crybabies want a new role then pull the trigger and go earn that sp or quit I don't care one way or the other.
Honestly people like you are disgrace for the human race, you parents should be really proud.
But we all know this is issue of sensible upbringing.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
387
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:08:00 -
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Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:Good job CCP, you made all these kids cry.
It probably means nothing to you but I appreciate the dropsuit respec and the unfathomable tears of rage.
They're unfathomable because I have no clue why people are butthurt about getting something. You're not seing far these 2 weeks i suppose ? 1.8 is the Full Racial Line Up. Actually we can't have a better moment to have a Full respec. You know what it means ? No respec now means we're NEVER going to have a respec. (When i'm saying never it means NEVER.) So we're all stuck with the same role for the 3 next year...... You were dying because of water lack, someone threw you an empty water bottle and you're happy..... It might be an empty water bottle but at least now I have a bottle.
container without content loosing on name
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Interplanetary Insanitarium
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:12:00 -
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And doesn't the suit determine your role?
With a dropsuit respec we can become whatever we want. The core skills you have will apply to whatever suit you choose.
And really at this point all you have to do is spec into whatever new weapons you want to round out your role.
If fists were food you'd be full right now.
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Interplanetary Insanitarium
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:14:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote:Good job CCP, you made all these kids cry.
It probably means nothing to you but I appreciate the dropsuit respec and the unfathomable tears of rage.
They're unfathomable because I have no clue why people are butthurt about getting something. You're not seing far these 2 weeks i suppose ? 1.8 is the Full Racial Line Up. Actually we can't have a better moment to have a Full respec. You know what it means ? No respec now means we're NEVER going to have a respec. (When i'm saying never it means NEVER.) So we're all stuck with the same role for the 3 next year...... You were dying because of water lack, someone threw you an empty water bottle and you're happy..... It might be an empty water bottle but at least now I have a bottle. container without content loosing on name
It's already full. All these tears, soooo refreshing.
If fists were food you'd be full right now.
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Murt Lesp
Hydra's Wraiths
25
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:14:00 -
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Players will always be unhappy regardless of what is done. A respec helps players who feel they made rash decisions (I've been one of those people) but it does nothing for the hardcore vets who do whatever they want. I'd be more than happy to save up for a different class since respecing leaves me with gear I currently cant sell.
CCP, you need a more user friendly design for new players. They don't understand roles or the current gameplay. I'd go so far as to suggest preventing buying items and skills until 10+ games have been played. People rarely eat something they aren't familiar with without a taste.
Then move them to the rookie servers etc etc
I messed up my skills, guess it't time for MILLITA MONTH!!!
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