"No respecs" has been CCPs default position since... forever and you know that.

Because some individuals chose to spam the fora with all the same threads to the point where no discussion could be had on anything.

Would you rather they perma banned users? Because that's the only alternative, given the behavior of some that's, again, on display this very moment.

this is incorrect, they never said that, infact there were discussing about possibilities at fanfest. what CCP said there will be no more RESETS.

classic CCP Shanghai "buy more boosters and STFU" move.

I'd rather they made an official statement that said "We will not be refunding any SP unless we deem it necessary. Thank you."

Lock respec threads, link back to that notice.

At least that's genuine. Don't get our hopes up when you clearly do not intend to listen to nor discuss the issue with us.

Looks like everyone wasted their times posting their opinions and logic on this thread.

Looks like everyone wasted their times posting their opinions and logic on this thread.

Last i checked a dropsuit command tree respec was going to happen. Have they since changed their mind or do you just consider anything but full compliance a complete failure to comply?

Last i checked a dropsuit command tree respec was going to happen. Have they since changed their mind or do you just consider anything but full compliance a complete failure to comply?

Considering the total lack of discussion by CCP on this issue, and the complete dismissal of the fact that, among other things, Armor and Shield skills are now wasted if you try switching to your new (read: OLD) backlogged suit, well...you're just sol.

Buy boosters and deal with it.

The thing is, this has put me off of buying any AUR boosters again. I will never pay a dime more for this game. Its such poor quality and poor community management and bad will.

Considering the total lack of discussion by CCP on this issue, and the complete dismissal of the fact that, among other things, Armor and Shield skills are now wasted if you try switching to your new (read: OLD) backlogged suit, well...you're just sol.

Buy boosters and deal with it.

Im disgusted I can't believe ccp pulled something like this this is painful

It's not optimal. I get it. So?

Have you ever been willing to settle with less than the full extend of your demands*. Please tell me what kind of discussion there can be when one side is not willing to accept a compromise.

For lack of a better term. Not meant to sound judgmental.

You are not the only one.

The worst thing is that the new EP, CCP Rogue, has signed off on this decision. He cannot be unaware of it.

No old vets will return. More players will leave the game. Less players will pay for boosters.

Great work there CCP Rogue, you are no different than the old EP.

The thing is, this has put me off of buying any AUR boosters again. I will never pay a dime more for this game. Its such poor quality and poor community management and bad will.

This is just yet another in the long line of poor decisions that makes me glad that I shut my wallet to these people awhile ago.

They have shown time and time again since then that they have no desire to actually work with the community, let alone try and repair the damage they have done to their reputation.

You all are just mad. I for one welcome the re-spec the way it stands now. It makes the most sense to give people who didn't have any option before to go full factional. I shed a single tear for those who still don't have all their racial weapon variants, but oh well. Just deal.

With only a refund of dropsuit command, how am I like many others supposed to effectively change roles?

What use will I have for logistics equipment if I plan to go into scouts and heavy frames?

What use will Logistics have for heavy weapons if they choose to drop their heavy frames?

Why will I need armor modules if I plan to go into a shield based suit?

What use will I have for shield modules if I plan to play an armor frame?

I have certain commando classes that I want to use along with their race's assault suits. What use do I have for another faction's rifles, sidearms and secondaries?



I've made purchases to support a game I enjoyed playing. I will not spend another dime for this company if you continue to undermine every one of my decisions.


Give infantry a reason to stay. Vehicles had theirs. It's our turn.

[Strike 2] I'd prefer to wait until Dust is on ps4 to get one. If this keeps up, I'll just buy one anyway and forget about CCP.

This respec is not for you changing roles. This respec is for people changing racial suits without penality: Amarr Heavy -> Caldari Heavy. Minmatar Scout -> Amarr Scout. Gallent Logi -> Caldari Logi. Stuff like this. Because, you know, they changed the bonus. If you didn't like scout then why did you spec into it? Also equipment skills are never worthless.

Also even if you want to change, you had to spec into a new suit and a new weapon before. Now you at least get your dropsuit sp back. Are people never happy?!

You OWE us a full infantry respec. You say only the dropsuits have changed, but that's not true. You changed weaponry as well the minute you decided on those stupid assault suit bonuses pissing off the users of the most used suit in the game. Let me explain why:

I'm a 20M SP lifetime guy. Occasional open beta guy, but I've been fully active since July. Back then, I had no choice but to spec into AR's, since that's was really the only true rifle option at the time. I spent considerable SP getting my AR maxed out, then, when RR's and CR's came out, I still used it because, simply put, I invested a lot in it. Now not only did you nerf the AR TWICE, and introduce better weapons, you changed my Caldari assault suit bonus (which I also have maxed out), trying to force me to use a weapon that I don't want to use. I don't like RR's. I don't like CR's. I LIKE AR's. But now, there's no real point, right? I have to start using Gallente suits, even though I prefer the Caldari suits. I used to respect this game for the customization options. Now, you're penalizing players who want to use different weapons from suits, or use other creative ways to make suit loadouts.

And now, onto upgrades. Let's say I was a scout, but now I'm going to go heavy. Well, my core changes, doesn't it? I'm not really going to need kincats, or profile dampening, am I?

All this is blatantly obvious. I guess I gave you to much credit for being intelligent people. I guess, since we're not vehicle users, we infantry people don't deserve a respec.

Shame on you, CCP Shanghai. You want to break assault suits, fine. But at least give people the option to get out of them. People that have invested time and money in this game and have stayed loyal to a game barely on par with Halo 2 while games like PS2 are out there and coming. By the way, I heard that PS2 is coming on June 5th. I suggest you get your act together, and quickly.

Since Lockingbro just locked my thread, I copied and pasted what I had to say here. I'd also like to add something someone brought up in the thread. That the AR is stronger now. Vs. the RR and CR, yes. However, the AR is now a CQC weapon, and with damage nerfs, and damage mod nerfs, how are you supposed to take down a heavy with that sorry piece of crap?

I have on plenty of things.

Touting the phrase "your choices matter" then intentionally locking out portions of your player base (who waited patiently for backlogged content) by forcing them to sit on irrelevant SP just in the hopes they'll buy boosters is nothing short of insulting.

If CCP doesn't want to do a blanket respec for these things, then they need to open up support tickets again, and take the month going through everyones character who wants to have Shield or Armor skills refunded, and equipment refunded (Armor tanks to shield tanks, shield tanks to armor tanks, or logis who weren't fortunate enough to predict their races choice piece of equipment)

This is the only way the respec becomes fair.