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Exodeon Salviej wrote:

>_> Well, here's my idea for all the supposed whiners; The dropsuit respec that's been floating around, I'm okay with. A heapton of new dropsuits, and proto costs 1.2 mill SP to get it, that's about 1 and a half months, unless there's a triple SP event. This should be an utter guaranteed if there are new dropsuits to use. Weapons: Y'all are fools, it takes what...310k to get level 5 on a weapon? If you make a choice in the weapons section, you should DEAL with it, because it's so effing easy to get a new gun, a proto one as a matter of fact! Look at me, I was originally proto Minmatar Assault, I skilled into the Scrambler Rifle because I loved it. It's a great gun, and if you manage to get me to overheat, then you have a 50/50 chance of me commiting suicide and giving you a kill assist(if you dealt enough damage to me). BUT, alongside that, I have proficiency 5. My assault rifles are at Proficiency 3, and I can use ADV Tier on almost ANY weapon. ALMOST...ANY...WEAPON, and I'm at what...17 mill lifetime SP? -Flicks your foreheads.- I'm now a Commando, can you IMAGINE what that does for me? I have three proto commando suits; Ghengis Kahn - Assault Rifle/Scrambler Rifle, Longshot - Sniper Rifle/Swarm Launcher(albeit useless atm), and Gandhi - Laser Rifle/Assault Scrambler Rifle. Hell, I could so far as to get all of the sidearms too, but...I feel that would be a waste of the power I COULD put on the thing. ANYWAYS, complaining about a weapon respec, in my opinion, makes you look spoiled. ._. New weapons are easy, new suits are not. Simple as that, I've said my part, I'm good.

IDGAF who you are. You shot at my Corp, now I WILL kill you. Only question is: Will you fight back?

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The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1856	Posted - 2014.03.05 23:35:00 - [841] - Quote Agreed. "You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." Raoul Duke
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 134	Posted - 2014.03.06 02:04:00 - [842] - Quote Core or not we are getting these suits niw and deserve a chance to Spec into yhem immeditely without needing to save Sp for months. Thats thequvalent of saving to b a while not paying the rent in your apartment of you are a 13 million SP player like myself. im still getting what I need for a fully proto proto suit. It is being changed without my consent. I no longer want my suit. Forcing to stay with it is like imprisoning Mr in my apartment. Eventually I'll just leave or have a massive argument with my lanflo IDGAF who you are. You shot at my Corp, now I WILL kill you. Only question is: Will you fight back?
GENERAL FCF Sentinels of New Eden 22	Posted - 2014.03.06 02:40:00 - [843] - Quote If your introducing new Heavy Sentinels then respec. But anyways plz respec the skills plz!!!!
DoomLead Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 274	Posted - 2014.03.06 02:44:00 - [844] - Quote Can you plz only give out a partial respec for scouts and heavies with the release of 1.8. just give us back the sp for suits or transfer all our sp to the suit of the race that we choose (using myself as an example) meaning you can put my lvl 5 heavy, lvl 5 commando and lvl 4 sentinel straight to the race of my choosing and make my sp exactly the same for this race as it was in my previous race. I honestly think it is fair since you did the same thing with the vehicle users
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12061	Posted - 2014.03.06 03:27:00 - [845] - Quote DoomLead wrote: Can you plz only give out a partial respec for scouts and heavies with the release of 1.8. just give us back the sp for suits or transfer all our sp to the suit of the race that we choose (using myself as an example) meaning you can put my lvl 5 heavy, lvl 5 commando and lvl 4 sentinel straight to the race of my choosing and make my sp exactly the same for this race as it was in my previous race. I honestly think it is fair since you did the same thing with the vehicle users That makes no sense simply because most people armor tank their Amarr Sentinels (because they're armor tanks), yet if they wanted to go into Caldari or Minmatar Sentinel, they would be more shield focused. Hence, at absolute minimum, you would need to refund Dropsuit Command and Upgrades. Weaponry should be refunded because of how the roles of every weapon has changed thanks to new damage and resistance profiles among other changes. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1859	Posted - 2014.03.06 03:28:00 - [846] - Quote 501st Headstrong wrote: Core or not we are getting these suits niw and deserve a chance to Spec into yhem immeditely without needing to save Sp for months. Thats thequvalent of saving to b a while not paying the rent in your apartment of you are a 13 million SP player like myself. im still getting what I need for a fully proto proto suit. It is being changed without my consent. I no longer want my suit. Forcing to stay with it is like imprisoning Mr in my apartment. Eventually I'll just leave or have a massive argument with my lanflo This is the only reason that I feel like SP should be refunded and it is because the core isn't there, this type of situation where all suits are being changed and new suits that should have been there are being added ALL AT ONCE is the only time I agree with it. If the suits were to trickle out one or two at a time then I wouldn't even consider it but with is happening I think it is justified and is the right thing to do. I want every one to be treated fairly and some want to be a racial purist and the should be able to have it because it is what the game needs. "You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." Raoul Duke
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1548	Posted - 2014.03.06 05:01:00 - [847] - Quote When the game first came out everyone wasn't given a large pool of SP to instantly spec into whatever they wanted. Now that new suits are here why should they do that now. I've said it before and I'll say it again, respecs don't create balance, and they don't help anyone who starts playing after they are given. Nobody NEEDS a respec, they just really WANT one. Ion pistol in 1.8? Really, is that it? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1861	Posted - 2014.03.06 05:18:00 - [848] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: When the game first came out everyone wasn't given a large pool of SP to instantly spec into whatever they wanted. Now that new suits are here why should they do that now. I've said it before and I'll say it again, respecs don't create balance, and they don't help anyone who starts playing after they are given. Nobody NEEDS a respec, they just really WANT one. You are correct and they are not needed by the person but I think it is needed by the game. I do hate saying that. Giving players a large pool of SP is probably a bad idea because people will get hurt when buffed or nerfed. When they hand it out it is going to be very interesting, I am serious when I say I'm not going to put any SP anywhere for about two weeks or more. Pure starters, just for fun. "You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." Raoul Duke
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 12066	Posted - 2014.03.06 06:37:00 - [849] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: When the game first came out everyone wasn't given a large pool of SP to instantly spec into whatever they wanted. Now that new suits are here why should they do that now. I've said it before and I'll say it again, respecs don't create balance, and they don't help anyone who starts playing after they are given. Nobody NEEDS a respec, they just really WANT one. I only see old suits. Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1862	Posted - 2014.03.06 06:44:00 - [850] - Quote Only seven more pages "You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." Raoul Duke

Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1527	Posted - 2014.03.06 06:47:00 - [851] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Only seven more pages Its over 9000!!! Drop it like its hat.
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1549	Posted - 2014.03.06 07:31:00 - [852] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Unfortunately we didn't get a chance to redo the slots and PG/CPU for all the medium frames in Uprising 1.8. Expect those changes to come in a future update. So if we have a respec in 1.8, we should get one a month later as well? A slot layout change is a big deal. Ion pistol in 1.8? Really, is that it? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 820	Posted - 2014.03.06 07:33:00 - [853] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: When the game first came out everyone wasn't given a large pool of SP to instantly spec into whatever they wanted. Now that new suits are here why should they do that now. I've said it before and I'll say it again, respecs don't create balance, and they don't help anyone who starts playing after they are given. Nobody NEEDS a respec, they just really WANT one. You are correct and they are not needed by the person but I think it is needed by the game. I do hate saying that. Giving players a large pool of SP is probably a bad idea because people will get hurt when buffed or nerfed. When they hand it out it is going to be very interesting, I am serious when I say I'm not going to put any SP anywhere for about two weeks or more. Pure starters, just for fun. Hmm. I've already prepared every point of my SP if full respec happens, and if only heavy/light siits are refunded, i'll still be fine because i'll have 2 scouts at the time. Along with a proto'd commando. No SP refund=academy stomping FOR DAYYZ Proud owner of 69 'Fleshriver' Nk's. No i don't buy AUR
Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1549	Posted - 2014.03.06 07:34:00 - [854] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Only seven more pages We can be the kings of this post. DUST Fiend, come join us. Ion pistol in 1.8? Really, is that it? When is that? SoonGäó514 "No blue tags make Tallen go crazy.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1527	Posted - 2014.03.06 07:36:00 - [855] - Quote Tallen Ellecon wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Unfortunately we didn't get a chance to redo the slots and PG/CPU for all the medium frames in Uprising 1.8. Expect those changes to come in a future update. So if we have a respec in 1.8, we should get one a month later as well? A slot layout change is a big deal. Im starting to think were not getting a infantry respec until the next expansion now. Manly due to the fact that mediums did not get slot layout changed. I will spec into gal scout for sure now. Bricktank 514. Drop it like its hat.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1862	Posted - 2014.03.06 07:51:00 - [856] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Tallen Ellecon wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Unfortunately we didn't get a chance to redo the slots and PG/CPU for all the medium frames in Uprising 1.8. Expect those changes to come in a future update. So if we have a respec in 1.8, we should get one a month later as well? A slot layout change is a big deal. Im starting to think were not getting a infantry respec until the next expansion now. Manly due to the fact that mediums did not get slot layout changed. I will spec into gal scout for sure now. Bricktank 514. The only reason I keep replying "You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." Raoul Duke
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 9	Posted - 2014.03.06 10:25:00 - [857] - Quote Out of curiosity, what percentage of us have actually spent money on this game? Why should CCP listen to those that have spent nothing and put forth no effort. The skills come with time, teamwork is what we want.
Exodeon Salviej the third day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 58	Posted - 2014.03.06 11:05:00 - [858] - Quote >_> Well, here's my idea for all the supposed whiners; The dropsuit respec that's been floating around, I'm okay with. A heapton of new dropsuits, and proto costs 1.2 mill SP to get it, that's about 1 and a half months, unless there's a triple SP event. This should be an utter guaranteed if there are new dropsuits to use. Weapons: Y'all are fools, it takes what...310k to get level 5 on a weapon? If you make a choice in the weapons section, you should DEAL with it, because it's so effing easy to get a new gun, a proto one as a matter of fact! Look at me, I was originally proto Minmatar Assault, I skilled into the Scrambler Rifle because I loved it. It's a great gun, and if you manage to get me to overheat, then you have a 50/50 chance of me commiting suicide and giving you a kill assist(if you dealt enough damage to me). BUT, alongside that, I have proficiency 5. My assault rifles are at Proficiency 3, and I can use ADV Tier on almost ANY weapon. ALMOST...ANY...WEAPON, and I'm at what...17 mill lifetime SP? -Flicks your foreheads.- I'm now a Commando, can you IMAGINE what that does for me? I have three proto commando suits; Ghengis Kahn - Assault Rifle/Scrambler Rifle, Longshot - Sniper Rifle/Swarm Launcher(albeit useless atm), and Gandhi - Laser Rifle/Assault Scrambler Rifle. Hell, I could so far as to get all of the sidearms too, but...I feel that would be a waste of the power I COULD put on the thing. ANYWAYS, complaining about a weapon respec, in my opinion, makes you look spoiled. ._. New weapons are easy, new suits are not. Simple as that, I've said my part, I'm good. Your face is something to shoot, so I will shoot. Don't be offended, I do it to everyone.
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 134	Posted - 2014.03.06 11:15:00 - [859] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: Out of curiosity, what percentage of us have actually spent money on this game? Why should CCP listen to those that have spent nothing and put forth no effort. Not all of us have the money to spend. I'm 16, and I've been looking for work. Parents are behind in rent. Internet was recently cut off two months. I dont have money to spend on a game. And that is like saying youhave to pay to VOTE. It isnt how it I'd in the US (legally anyway ) and that's not how it is in Dust. Everyone who plays this game instead of another has a voice. Money, be it ISk or dollars means shiznit. Nothing more to say IDGAF who you are. You shot at my Corp, now I WILL kill you. Only question is: Will you fight back?
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 134	Posted - 2014.03.06 11:25:00 - [860] - Quote Exodeon Salviej wrote: >_> Well, here's my idea for all the supposed whiners; The dropsuit respec that's been floating around, I'm okay with. A heapton of new dropsuits, and proto costs 1.2 mill SP to get it, that's about 1 and a half months, unless there's a triple SP event. This should be an utter guaranteed if there are new dropsuits to use. Weapons: Y'all are fools, it takes what...310k to get level 5 on a weapon? If you make a choice in the weapons section, you should DEAL with it, because it's so effing easy to get a new gun, a proto one as a matter of fact! Look at me, I was originally proto Minmatar Assault, I skilled into the Scrambler Rifle because I loved it. It's a great gun, and if you manage to get me to overheat, then you have a 50/50 chance of me commiting suicide and giving you a kill assist(if you dealt enough damage to me). BUT, alongside that, I have proficiency 5. My assault rifles are at Proficiency 3, and I can use ADV Tier on almost ANY weapon. ALMOST...ANY...WEAPON, and I'm at what...17 mill lifetime SP? -Flicks your foreheads.- I'm now a Commando, can you IMAGINE what that does for me? I have three proto commando suits; Ghengis Kahn - Assault Rifle/Scrambler Rifle, Longshot - Sniper Rifle/Swarm Launcher(albeit useless atm), and Gandhi - Laser Rifle/Assault Scrambler Rifle. Hell, I could so far as to get all of the sidearms too, but...I feel that would be a waste of the power I COULD put on the thing. ANYWAYS, complaining about a weapon respec, in my opinion, makes you look spoiled. ._. New weapons are easy, new suits are not. Simple as that, I've said my part, I'm good. There are around 8-10 light weapons in Dust at the moment. At all Proto and no proficiency, that's 3.4 million ISk. Thr bonuses for the suits are changing so some guns noe affect others differently. I no longer want to be specced into Sniper rifles or Scrambler. They were simply weapons I used because my Combat rifle was not in the game. Now that it is, I want racial parity. And to Proto a gun is 600k sp,, not 310k. So that actually means around 4 million SP. 12000, + 37k, +87k+ 174k+ 310k_= 620k Too much SP that I can't put forth to ehat I desire, even in just 1 gun IDGAF who you are. You shot at my Corp, now I WILL kill you. Only question is: Will you fight back?

Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 529	Posted - 2014.03.06 12:49:00 - [861] - Quote Here's a hint for people wanting a respec. Save your SP. Failing that, if you participated in Operation Mauler and got the full reward, you'll get 750k SP to put wherever you want. Save that until 1.8 drops. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2019	Posted - 2014.03.06 16:46:00 - [862] - Quote So many good players leaving BC the grind is boring. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
ERYN Warchild Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 30	Posted - 2014.03.06 16:59:00 - [863] - Quote Oh I hope they say no just to spite everyone. You made your SP choices to have the best weapons and broken fits. Now when it changes you whine and moan that you can't have the best fit any more? You know what? Suck it up and deal with it. Maybe next time you won't try for FotM but instead diversify. Say no CCP! Say no! Those of us who don't cater to FotM will be pleased with your commitment to changing the game for the better!
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2020	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:35:00 - [864] - Quote ERYN Warchild wrote: Oh I hope they say no just to spite everyone. You made your SP choices to have the best weapons and broken fits. Now when it changes you whine and moan that you can't have the best fit any more? You know what? Suck it up and deal with it. Maybe next time you won't try for FotM but instead diversify. Say no CCP! Say no! Those of us who don't cater to FotM will be pleased with your commitment to changing the game for the better! Lol. You really think no respec will stop FOTM? I have 2 proto suits, maxed rails and shield tanks, 4 proto weapons, and all cores lvl 5. My alt has 1 proto suit, maxed cores, and 5 adv weapons and 1 proto weapon. Point is that most people who you call FOTMers have enough so across multiple areas to be "FOTM" no matter what. A respec doesn't hurt vets, just newer guys with only 2 things proto and MAYBE core skills maxed. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 146	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:39:00 - [865] - Quote Respec or not, there will ALWAYS be a Flavor of the Month gear. having 23 soon to be 24 million, I can have that FOTM anytime I want to. Sure a respec (infantry only) would cause me to spend stuff elsewhere. If they did spend it into FOTM they can expect a nerf and no respec in the aftermath. So if anything having a respec will not hurt nor remedy the situation. Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0. Yea that old.
D legendary hero Ultramarine Corp 1790	Posted - 2014.03.06 21:08:00 - [866] - Quote 7 more pages of support and we get a respec... common community you can do it Sou o Defendeiro dos derrubados_Pronto saberá justiça
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 134	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:13:00 - [867] - Quote What part of I don't have the SP to save are some people not getting? I do not have cores maxed. I do not have tanks maxed. I am saving up for those. I do NOT participate in fit of the month because I am saving for other stuff. I do not have SP to sit back and save for these new suits as I am trying to be competitive with people like Charolette who have double my SP. A respec will at least allow me to try the new suits without having to hear all the "Rave" reviews. Come on community, 50 pages! IDGAF who you are. You shot at my Corp, now I WILL kill you. Only question is: Will you fight back?
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns 33	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:31:00 - [868] - Quote 501st Headstrong wrote: What part of I don't have the SP to save are some people not getting? I do not have cores maxed. I do not have tanks maxed. I am saving up for those. I do NOT participate in fit of the month because I am saving for other stuff. I do not have SP to sit back and save for these new suits as I am trying to be competitive with people like Charolette who have double my SP. A respec will at least allow me to try the new suits without having to hear all the "Rave" reviews. Come on community, 50 pages! I'm at roughly 5.4M SP and trying to compete with people that have 3-8x my SP. Personally, if we get a respec, I plan to max out armor, shields, and PG/CPU. Which, incidentally, takes a hair over 5M SP. Then I'll sit back and wait to see if my beloved Minmatar Commando (ACR/MD) is as weak as it might seem on paper before I spec into it. I'm hopeful that the combination of the damage bonus to both of those weapons (in addition to the MD buff and the ACR's smaller damage nerf) might be worth the significantly lessened health pool.
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 137	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:44:00 - [869] - Quote Indeed. For the first week, I'm saving my SP. No way I'm skilling into suits and losing hundreds of thousands of ISK why the MagSec is setting the world on fire... IDGAF who you are. You shot at my Corp, now I WILL kill you. Only question is: Will you fight back?
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 809	Posted - 2014.03.07 02:51:00 - [870] - Quote FOTM won't go away because there's no respect. There will always be FOTM chasers. Why punish people who are getting their suits changed because some people will chase whatever is OP? Best PVE idea I've seen.



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