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Ghost Kaisar wrote:

Gh0st C0de wrote:

I just was in a squad with a collection of first rate scouts. It was humbling.

In solo play I average around 1400 WP... mostly from a very aggressive installation hacking habit, dropping uplinks like a fiend and whipping out a swarm scout whenever I see a tank or two. I act as an autonomous unit in my squad, which typically consists of myself and two friends who run logistics fits.

I rounded out the last battle with approximately 400 war points. Not because I sucked too terribly, though it was by no means my best play of all time, but because most things were killed, hacked or controlled efficiently and quickly and were defended well enough to keep them from being brought back to red. I was out-scouted.

I hope one day to pull 23/0 or similarly outstanding matches as effortlessly as Shotty makes it seem. For now I will be content to go 12/6 and call it a good match.

Maybe next time I squad with a dedicated scout group I will have a properly functioning mic and won't be at my girlfriend's place... having to hand over the controller before you're done is no fun. At least I can backseat hack while my girlfriend plays on her account.

Thanks for the rounds, scouts!

Playing with other scouts is a blast, and it really helps you see how important certain aspects of scouting are.

Playing with Shotty made me realize that learning how to cook nades is paramount when playing as a scout. They are excellent ways to start an engagement with an enemy, as it will either kill them outright, or horridly wound them. It's really the only way to engage an opponent that knows you are there. Run around a corner, get some distance, cook the nade, then jump out and toss it at their feet.

Playing with Lightning vXv showed me how to run a shotgun. You gotta know when it is okay to rush em, and when you should run away or flank. He knows when he can rush the target, which is why you see those huge killfeeds with him. He will see three people, and only one will see him. He sprints up and takes out the target that is aware of him, and then gets the other 2 afterwards.

The list goes on and on.

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OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 796	Posted - 2013.10.09 01:09:00 - [2551] - Quote Morathi III wrote: OZAROW wrote: Shotty GoBang wrote: Omareth Nasadra wrote: confirming that morathi has biomass is character, i still got hope he'll come back one day under a new name His deployment is one year, right? Seems he could've permitting the account to accrue passive SP. Looking forward to Morathi's return ... he was a great mentor :-) You sure he's gone an deleted it? He was off to the army this week for about 6 months I think, bummer I was supposed to get his email, his base is 20 minutes from my house PSN : Antiochus_III I just finish my course in paramedic I have a national exam tomorow to be medic all around Canada ( except Quebec where im from lol ) After i have my boot camp for 16 week for the army Its after i go to the base of Borden Ontario for at least 9 months for their medic course I think in Borden i will have enough time for come back to play, i will probably go on Destiny when the game be release o7 K, I ll send you a request today with some info an show u around when you land
Ghost Kaisar Pradox One 447	Posted - 2013.10.09 01:17:00 - [2552] - Quote OZAROW wrote: K, I ll send you a request today with some info an show u around when you land Scouts United bro. 07
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 625	Posted - 2013.10.09 01:49:00 - [2553] - Quote Shotgun hit detection feels slightly better. Didn't get a chance to play around with Nova Knives much, but there was a delay between when I landed a stab to when the damage was applied of about two seconds from what I saw. Will play with them more later when I get a chance to sit down for an hour or more.
IAmDuncanIdaho II The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 111	Posted - 2013.10.09 07:53:00 - [2554] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Gh0st C0de wrote: I just was in a squad with a collection of first rate scouts. It was humbling. In solo play I average around 1400 WP... mostly from a very aggressive installation hacking habit, dropping uplinks like a fiend and whipping out a swarm scout whenever I see a tank or two. I act as an autonomous unit in my squad, which typically consists of myself and two friends who run logistics fits. I rounded out the last battle with approximately 400 war points. Not because I sucked too terribly, though it was by no means my best play of all time, but because most things were killed, hacked or controlled efficiently and quickly and were defended well enough to keep them from being brought back to red. I was out-scouted. I hope one day to pull 23/0 or similarly outstanding matches as effortlessly as Shotty makes it seem. For now I will be content to go 12/6 and call it a good match. Maybe next time I squad with a dedicated scout group I will have a properly functioning mic and won't be at my girlfriend's place... having to hand over the controller before you're done is no fun. At least I can backseat hack while my girlfriend plays on her account. Thanks for the rounds, scouts! Playing with other scouts is a blast, and it really helps you see how important certain aspects of scouting are. Playing with Shotty made me realize that learning how to cook nades is paramount when playing as a scout. They are excellent ways to start an engagement with an enemy, as it will either kill them outright, or horridly wound them. It's really the only way to engage an opponent that knows you are there. Run around a corner, get some distance, cook the nade, then jump out and toss it at their feet. Playing with Lightning vXv showed me how to run a shotgun. You gotta know when it is okay to rush em, and when you should run away or flank. He knows when he can rush the target, which is why you see those huge killfeeds with him. He will see three people, and only one will see him. He sprints up and takes out the target that is aware of him, and then gets the other 2 afterwards. The list goes on and on. Yeah Gh0st C0de, I was in there with you, trust me you're not the only one humbled. 12/6 is a good match for me too ;-) The last match I played, I was like 2-1-7. Got owned by some proto-suits in a city before we changed objectives and got out of there. Did a little better in the latter part of the battle, but when I looked at the kill boards at the end, I wanted the ground to swallow me. I'm at 2-1-7, and most of the others, Shotty, Bojo, etc., were all at the top in the 20s for 4s. Luckily I was soo bad that you couldn't see me in the list without scrolling down LMAO. Pretty sure those guys aren't running proto, so I should have equivalent advanced fits. Anyway, yeah, I realised I need to squad with all you guys as much as possible now when I'm not running solo, and improve my game - bigtime. My situational awareness needs work - I'm not sure when to rush and when not to (shotgun scout), and I think I probably rush way too much. I can put my finger on a couple of instances where I blazed through three at once that hadn't seen me, but I didn't recognise that I could - I was gonna try do it anyway. Best thing I can do if I don't drag y'all down too much is squad and learn :D
Ghost Kaisar Pradox One 459	Posted - 2013.10.09 08:19:00 - [2555] - Quote Run with the best or die like the rest
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1380	Posted - 2013.10.09 11:12:00 - [2556] - Quote I hear Nova Knives are working again any truth to that?
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1381	Posted - 2013.10.09 13:01:00 - [2557] - Quote Just tested it still bugged up ze rear.
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1488	Posted - 2013.10.09 13:49:00 - [2558] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Pretty sure those guys aren't running proto, so I should have equivalent advanced fits. Incorrect! Ran proto gear every FW match yesterday. For the win! gk.0 2 cmp plates1, cmp repper, 1 enh card reg CRG-3, Toxin SMG, Core Nades 1 cmp shield, A-19 scanner Plan to do something similar today, but with a proto SG (for testing) ... will downgrade plates to fit it.
Cass Caul Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 139	Posted - 2013.10.09 16:37:00 - [2559] - Quote The Gallente FW battles were fun. 30 more battles to go. I haven't had any blue-shield or 0-damage shots so far, but a lot seems to only do partial damage... like 6 shots at 10m to kill a 500HP suit Might just be lag though. That seems to be getting worse.
Hagintora Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 156	Posted - 2013.10.09 16:45:00 - [2560] - Quote Looking for feedback on suggested speed changes that I think could buff the Scout https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114616&find=unread I'd love to hear what my Scout brothers have to say on this

IAmDuncanIdaho II The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 112	Posted - 2013.10.09 16:52:00 - [2561] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Pretty sure those guys aren't running proto, so I should have equivalent advanced fits. Incorrect! Ran proto gear every FW match yesterday. For the win! gk.0 2 cmp plates1, cmp repper, 1 enh card reg CRG-3, Toxin SMG, Core Nades 1 cmp shield, A-19 scanner Plan to do something similar today, but with a proto SG (for testing) ... will downgrade plates to fit it. hehe ok then well I guess I feel a bit better but still....gotta get good ;-)
noob cavman A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 100	Posted - 2013.10.09 16:56:00 - [2562] - Quote Sooo many mass drivers out today. Had to make a cal proto shotty just to survive in tight maps :( feel unclean
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 634	Posted - 2013.10.09 17:26:00 - [2563] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I hear Nova Knives are working again any truth to that? Nope. Was still having problems with the NKs earlier. Damage not registering, damage that did register was delayed by two to three seconds, blue shield strikes up the wazoo, unable to damage moving targets even if I stab them directly in the eye socket. Pretty much the same complaints as usual with the knives. Shotguns on the other hand feel more fluid to me. Could just be imagining it though as it is very subtle.
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1489	Posted - 2013.10.09 18:08:00 - [2564] - Quote BARDAS wrote: Shotguns on the other hand feel more fluid to me. Could just be imagining it though as it is very subtle. I've noticed slight improvements to the Shotgun; fairly certain it isn't my imagination. Interested to hear if you guys have similar observations ... Stationary targets seem to take damage more reliably than before. Backpedaling or distanced targets seem to take damage at slightly longer range ... not much damage, but enough to finish an HP-critical target. Also, I suspect I'm landing shots on "bunny hoppers" more frequently than before, though I haven't encountered it enough to say with certainty. I'm still having problems hitting medium-frame "super" strafers at 3-10 meters. Always seem to land the first shot, but whiff every shot to follow once they start their little hipfire jig.
Cass Caul Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 139	Posted - 2013.10.09 19:13:00 - [2565] - Quote lol, completely contradictory to my post before: I had 2 or 3 blueshields in a row today :(
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 428	Posted - 2013.10.09 19:29:00 - [2566] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Pretty sure those guys aren't running proto, so I should have equivalent advanced fits. Incorrect! Ran proto gear every FW match yesterday. For the win! gk.0 2 cmp plates, 1 cmp repper, 1 enh card reg CRG-3, Toxin SMG, Core Nades 1 cmp shield, A-19 scanner Similar today, but with a proto SG (for testing) ... gk.0 1 cmp plate, 1 enh plate, 1 cmp repper, 1 enh cpu chip Creodron SG, M209 SMG, Core Nades 1 cmp shield, A-19 scanner hey shotty I really want you to try my gk.0 rep tank 3 complex reps 1 complex plate 1 complex extender I will leave the rest up to you
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 341	Posted - 2013.10.09 19:33:00 - [2567] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: I hope this thread becomes the most responded to thread on this forum. I'm fairly sure it's already the largest threadnought here.
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 372	Posted - 2013.10.09 19:41:00 - [2568] - Quote Spademan wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: I hope this thread becomes the most responded to thread on this forum. I'm fairly sure it's already the largest threadnought here. The only other thread I have seen that was around this length was the Templar Event signup one and I think we've surpassed that one already.
Ghost Kaisar Pradox One 463	Posted - 2013.10.09 20:27:00 - [2569] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Pretty sure those guys aren't running proto, so I should have equivalent advanced fits. Incorrect! Ran proto gear every FW match yesterday. For the win! gk.0 2 cmp plates, 1 cmp repper, 1 enh card reg CRG-3, Toxin SMG, Core Nades 1 cmp shield, A-19 scanner Similar today, but with a proto SG (for testing) ... gk.0 1 cmp plate, 1 enh plate, 1 cmp repper, 1 enh cpu chip Creodron SG, M209 SMG, Core Nades 1 cmp shield, A-19 scanner I don't have proto suits yet. But I do field one hell of an advanced suit. So don't take my ADV fit lightly My mainstay suit as of today: 1x Complex Shield 1x Basic Shield 1x M209 Assault SMG 1x GN-20 Specialist Flaylock 1x C-17 Flux 1x Enhanced Kincat 1x Enhanced Stamina I also swtich out the Flaylock for knives when I need to. I have to drop my basic shield for it though
hydraSlav's Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 289	Posted - 2013.10.09 20:46:00 - [2570] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: Pretty sure the Dust Fitting tool is out-of-date with regard to Scout passive scanning range. We can do the math by hand. All modules which feature a percentage bonus are subject to stacking penalty. I have not read that an exception was made to Range Amplifiers and stacking penalty, but will stand corrected if someone can cite a Dev thread indicating as such. - Shotty *Grabs calculator I will admit i've been skipping on the game lately, but i believe i've kept up with all patch notes that were posted. Can you please tell me what's out-of-date in the Dust Fitting Tool? Also, if you find bugs/discrepancies, please post in the DFT's thread, as i check that thread regularly Thanks

Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 2164	Posted - 2013.10.09 21:33:00 - [2571] - Quote It's me again OH BOY, ANOTHER BOJO THING OH BROTHER So this LOS thing has been sucking the life out of my goat related thoughts for a while now. Why doesn't profile effect it!? I think I have come up with a solution, a simple equation: LOS Scan Range = 80 (Basal) x (1-Difference in Profile/Precision Divided by ten) Note Differences can be negative and would thus result in addition rather than subtraction Here are some example scenarios: Scout vs Assault 80 x 0.9 (Scout Profile 45, Assault Precision 55) =72 meters Scout vs. Heavy 80 x 0.85 =68 meters Assault vs. Scout 80 x 1.05 = 84 meters Assault vs. Logi 80 x 1 = 80 meters Heavy vs. Scout 80 x 1.15 =92 meters Note The scout is a Light Frame, with no dampening/precision skills. Basically this gives scouts an edge in LOS detection while leaving Logistics practically unharmed in fighting mediums. However I can't say that this is a sure fire way to go about LOS detection. I wanted to incorporate weapon ranges somehow so snipers could see down their scope but I couldn't come up with one on the top of my head. I also was thinking that Scan Radius should have something to do with this but in light of the Gallente Scout Racial Bonus, I believe it would be too biased. All I know is that this would be a step in the right direction. Most weapons don't even compete at 80 meters so why should the average doo-dah pick someone up at 80 meters? I just wanted to run this by scouts for some peer review.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1589	Posted - 2013.10.09 21:40:00 - [2572] - Quote A few thoughts on range: - There is unscoped versus scoped... perhaps use a ratio of worst scan precision to precision worn for adjusts? - I do think people should be able to see further than their weapon range. It's useful.
Ghost Kaisar Pradox One 463	Posted - 2013.10.09 21:42:00 - [2573] - Quote Hahaha! Scout Squad anyone? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1376539#post1376539 For those too lazy to read, it will be 6v6 domination with 80 clones. I think a good 6 man scout squad can win in Domination if we play right. Vehicles AREN'T allowed, so we will always get the hack first. Spam some links, RE's, and we will always avoid the scanner
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 1209	Posted - 2013.10.09 21:49:00 - [2574] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Hahaha! Scout Squad anyone? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1376539#post1376539 For those too lazy to read, it will be 6v6 domination with 80 clones. I think a good 6 man scout squad can win in Domination if we play right. Vehicles AREN'T allowed, so we will always get the hack first. Spam some links, RE's, and we will always avoid the scanner Also, winners get 5-15 Officer weapons of their choice, 10-30 QUAFE SCOUT DROPSUITS, and 5-15 mil Isk. 10-30 QUAFE SCOUT DROPSUITS I like this idea.
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 2164	Posted - 2013.10.09 21:52:00 - [2575] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: A few thoughts on range: - There is unscoped versus scoped... perhaps use a ratio of worst scan precision to precision worn for adjusts? - I do think people should be able to see further than their weapon range. It's useful. Yeah totally my first thought that included weapon range never ended well for sidearms and shotguns so I trashed that idea.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 1209	Posted - 2013.10.09 22:00:00 - [2576] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: BARDAS wrote: Shotguns on the other hand feel more fluid to me. Could just be imagining it though as it is very subtle. I've noticed slight improvements to the Shotgun; fairly certain it isn't my imagination. Interested to hear if you guys have similar observations ... Stationary targets seem to take damage more reliably than before. Backpedaling or distanced targets seem to take damage at slightly longer range ... not much damage, but enough to finish an HP-critical target. Also, I suspect I'm landing shots on "bunny hoppers" more frequently than before, though I haven't encountered it enough to say with certainty. I'm still having problems hitting medium-frame "super" strafers at 3-10 meters. Always seem to land the first shot, but whiff every shot to follow once they start their little hipfire jig. Pretty much my observation. My shots were connecting but if latency was a problem there was a much noticeable delay. Shots on target ALWAYS connected but sometimes connected w a delay. That I'm just chalking up to latency. Now, for the KB/M ADADADAD super strafers. A lot of people say there is no difference in strafing, as I've used both over the last few builds this is entirely not true. ADADAD spam may not put you in a linear direction faster but will allow people to change directions faster than flipping your thumb. With this super jig it definitely seems to break hit detection like the speed tanked suits of pre-1.4. Very very very annoying with heavies that you know you should have taken down. I've gotten so used to just putting the SG away for the rest of the match after running into one of these that I generally don't try a second time. I just switch to SMG and pistol. However I also run into the problem of these shots not connecting at first either. Both the SMG and Pistol will also give hit indicators and no damage for the first part of clips but you at least have more distance and ammo in a clip with these. Overall the SG has gotten better from my observations but we're still suffering from a few minor problems now. This is very good in my opinion as there are even less bugs to iron out, thus less situations that we can get mad that we get robbed of kills. Now when I die I can chalk it up to getting out played, a bad decision on my part, or me just totally wiffing my shots.
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 799	Posted - 2013.10.09 22:07:00 - [2577] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Hahaha! Scout Squad anyone? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1376539#post1376539 For those too lazy to read, it will be 6v6 domination with 80 clones. I think a good 6 man scout squad can win in Domination if we play right. Vehicles AREN'T allowed, so we will always get the hack first. Spam some links, RE's, and we will always avoid the scanner Also, winners get 5-15 Officer weapons of their choice, 10-30 QUAFE SCOUT DROPSUITS, and 5-15 mil Isk. 10-30 QUAFE SCOUT DROPSUITS Done an done
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 226	Posted - 2013.10.09 22:44:00 - [2578] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Pretty sure those guys aren't running proto, so I should have equivalent advanced fits. Incorrect! Ran proto gear every FW match yesterday. For the win! gk.0 2 cmp plates, 1 cmp repper, 1 enh card reg CRG-3, Toxin SMG, Core Nades 1 cmp shield, A-19 scanner Similar today, but with a proto SG (for testing) ... gk.0 1 cmp plate, 1 enh plate, 1 cmp repper, 1 enh cpu chip Creodron SG, M209 SMG, Core Nades 1 cmp shield, A-19 scanner Don't forget that proto+swarm fit you fragged my tank on :-P Although I guess that wasnt in FW...
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1601	Posted - 2013.10.09 23:03:00 - [2579] - Quote Absolutely loving the scan assist WPs today - got at least 600wp from one ambush earlier. Sadly I'm away for a week from Saturday, so there's no point in even trying to do the FW event, which is a real shame because that sounds like you guys are having a blast. But fully up for getting a scout squad in the tourny - we'd kick ass by beating the enemies to the objectives and then chasing to rehack anything they did manage to get.
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1491	Posted - 2013.10.10 00:30:00 - [2580] - Quote hydraSlav's wrote: I will admit i've been skipping on the game lately, but i believe i've kept up with all patch notes that were posted. Can you please tell me what's out-of-date in the Dust Fitting Tool? Also, if you find bugs/discrepancies, please post in the DFT's thread, as i check that thread regularly Hi Hydra! Kudos on your Fitting Tool, good sir. To the best of my knowledge, Fitting Tool values are up-to-date. o7 - Shotty GoBang



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