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mollerz
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Posted - 2014.08.26 23:17:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Charles EWAR updated to reflect bugged CalScout range vs intended CalScout range.
Damn. Losing 21m is a lot.
I've been running wha tI think your suit is, Shotty.. with a Kalala rail rifle. Pretty fun.
Dingle Dust Berry.
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
3320
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Posted - 2014.08.26 23:29:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Spademan wrote:noob cavman wrote:Spademan wrote:noob cavman wrote:I demand the hookers to be scouse. Yes I am being vindictive and want you all to suffer. Hey, better than geordie. You clearly never did the dirty with a scouse lass. you weren't there man! * 1000 yard stare into the distance* I do hope you're not trying to suggest that a geordie would be preferable. I am. Dat scouse hurts your eyeballs. Also thankgod for rhino prime Iron skin so I could write this. But man, the geordies. I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
1644
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Posted - 2014.08.27 00:04:00 -
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I think as long as the "snap" of the cloak isn't as loud as a weapon. It needs to be a sound people need to listen for, something like "footsteps". If you listen, you can hear it. But I don't want it to be a burden to utilize. If you make a loud sound AND make it so that you are forced to wait "x" amount of time before you can fire...HA good luck EVER killing something from behind.
Same with deactivation delay. You make it too long and it becomes too much of a "fight with mechanics" to shoot people. The UI needs an overhaul if the delay is going to be "long" so that we can "see" when we can actually shoot again. Its better to make reappearance after cloak faster, rather than take longer to use a weapon. The faster people can see us again, the less they will feel cheated.
My Youtube
Biomassed Podcast
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2192
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Posted - 2014.08.27 01:20:00 -
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noob spaceman wrote:Bayeth Mal wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:I've never experienced deaths around corners in dust. But the burst hmg manages to do it all the time. Frustrating. What's with the shotgun is OP talk?I think the shotgun is still shite on a cracker. It really serves no purpose for me anymore. Fine rifles are much more consistent, what people don't realize is if they killed you with a shotgun, they would have killed you faster with a fine rifle. @ OP Shotgun I suspect he's referring to usage statistics. I don't understand the cause or appeal, but we can't argue with his findings. Wonder what the Breach Shotgun looks like. This is what I'm referring to as well. It seems (anecdotally) that the SG has become a FotM weapon. And I think one of the reasons is the firing from cloak which still hasn't been fixed. GIVE HIM A COOKIE NOW. Even if we could just straight up keep cloaked while firing, id take a bug-proof SG with the RoF proficiency anyday over firing from cloak
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2192
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Posted - 2014.08.27 01:24:00 -
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Also--The problem with the cloak is that it doesn't fool anyone who is even halfway decent, it only really works on not-so-good players with the exception of super bright maps where you actually are invisible
I literally have no problem with the cloak--its a crutch against bad players, and thats it
The only good thing about it is the red chevron removal, other than that, its about useless in a competitive situation
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
3200
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Posted - 2014.08.27 01:34:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also--The problem with the cloak is that it doesn't fool anyone who is even halfway decent, it only really works on not-so-good players with the exception of super bright maps where you actually are invisible
I literally have no problem with the cloak--its a crutch against bad players, and thats it
The only good thing about it is the red chevron removal, other than that, its about useless in a competitive situation I killed two cloaks with a MLT Laser Rifle today at around 30m.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
3571
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Posted - 2014.08.27 01:36:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also--The problem with the cloak is that it doesn't fool anyone who is even halfway decent, it only really works on not-so-good players with the exception of super bright maps where you actually are invisible
I literally have no problem with the cloak--its a crutch against bad players, and thats it
The only good thing about it is the red chevron removal, other than that, its about useless in a competitive situation Unless they aren't dampened.
Then they are "invisible" with a red chevron over their heads. God I love those fools.
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2193
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Posted - 2014.08.27 01:50:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also--The problem with the cloak is that it doesn't fool anyone who is even halfway decent, it only really works on not-so-good players with the exception of super bright maps where you actually are invisible
I literally have no problem with the cloak--its a crutch against bad players, and thats it
The only good thing about it is the red chevron removal, other than that, its about useless in a competitive situation I killed two cloaks with a MLT Laser Rifle today at around 30m. It was glorious. The fact that at 80 meters i can see the shimmer is ridiculous....
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
4278
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Posted - 2014.08.27 01:57:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Joel II X wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also--The problem with the cloak is that it doesn't fool anyone who is even halfway decent, it only really works on not-so-good players with the exception of super bright maps where you actually are invisible
I literally have no problem with the cloak--its a crutch against bad players, and thats it
The only good thing about it is the red chevron removal, other than that, its about useless in a competitive situation I killed two cloaks with a MLT Laser Rifle today at around 30m. It was glorious. The fact that at 80 meters i can see the shimmer is ridiculous.... I've gotten Headshots at 320m Tac SRGǪ cloak not good before. Did they make it worse?
KRRROOOOOOM
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icdedppul
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
156
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Posted - 2014.08.27 02:55:00 -
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so I have officially protoed all 4 scouts now
sadly you dont unlock a super duper scout for doing it
now I can no back to not playing this game |
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
4511
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Posted - 2014.08.27 03:11:00 -
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icdedppul wrote:so I have officially protoed all 4 scouts now
sadly you dont unlock a super duper scout for doing it
now I can no back to not playing this game
SP Event tomorrow. You know you want to :-)
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
417
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Posted - 2014.08.27 03:27:00 -
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Cloak If its useless and you still equip it then try this out. 1 flaylock and nothing else because if it is really useless you would not use it the same as you would not use the above. Cloak is a choice not a requirement.
The chevron only shows when they are visible on that players tac-net line of sight alone gets no chevron. If your not beating tac-net then yes the cloak is pretty useless. Good players will see cloaked scouts but in return a good scout won't run in front of them thinking they are invisible. Why should we be invisible with virtually OHK weapons. Play smart and run like you don't have a cloak using cover. If you can do that just as well without a cloak then don't use the cloak and equip more RE's. If your using it without also using dampening mods to achieve 19db, 17db or 14db then replace it with more RE's. If its so useless equip more RE's.
Yes it is worthless by itself. Yes it is needed by some scouts to achieve 14db. Yes skilled players can spot you, Yes a skilled scout can use it effectively vs skilled players that can spot you. Yes combined with range/precision when playing ring around the rosy while uncloaked then cloaking might be the difference in them having you on tac-net seeing where you are on the other side of an object (my favorite watching as my target moves back and forth as I do behind an object then I cloak and BANG they no longer know which way i'm going).
Reminds me of how snipers can track targets through walls from 500m from chevron. they don't track my chevron. They may see my shimmer for a split second but if im moving in and out of cover or moving in the city they need to be quick as they don't have the chevron pointing me out like they do non cloaked mercs and I don't care how good you are a shimmer is harder to hit than when uncloaked. Also you know aim assist don't work vs cloaked right? Running out in the open while cloaked? Run out in the open not cloaked and come back and tell me how that worked out for you. Oh you ran like a scout zig zaging using cover and terrain and moving unpredictable to throw off snipers? Try that while cloaked. Bet your odds favor with a cloak vs without both ways.
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LeGoose
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
524
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Posted - 2014.08.27 03:48:00 -
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Totally off topic, but I could have swore I heard Shotty's voice on the morning radio show I was listening to this am. It was weird.
Click it! I dare you...
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
418
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Posted - 2014.08.27 03:50:00 -
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So was Ratatatatatatati Trolling when he said shotgun was OP? If for real What will be nerfed? RoF? Dmg? Both? My guess is both if he is for real If he is trolling then I want shotgun added as sidearm. |
voidfaction
Nos Nothi
418
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Posted - 2014.08.27 03:58:00 -
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LeGoose wrote:Totally off topic, but I could have swore I heard Shotty's voice on the morning radio show I was listening to this am. It was weird. Never heard his voice but I think he needs to get on Biomassed with Ghost. Bring Appia too. I bet the 3 of them would make for a very good pod cast. Ghost already did a great job last Sunday and I'm sure Shotty and Appia would do great as well.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
6731
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Posted - 2014.08.27 04:02:00 -
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Really tempted to make a vehicle alt
Missile tanks are dang fun lol
FA's Stabber Extraordinaire
Minmatar Enthusiast
Explosions and Bulletstorm? Count me in!
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
418
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Posted - 2014.08.27 04:07:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Really tempted to make a vehicle alt
Missile tanks are dang fun lol "If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will"
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LeGoose
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
524
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Posted - 2014.08.27 05:04:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Really tempted to make a vehicle alt
Missile tanks are dang fun lol My NN alt was supposed to be a derpship pilot. I don't think I've logged onto that character since I created it though. Just sitting collecting passive sp forever now. I should really check it out.
Click it! I dare you...
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
6734
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Posted - 2014.08.27 05:33:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Really tempted to make a vehicle alt
Missile tanks are dang fun lol "If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will"
On the bright side: Have some input from the tanker side
Last three matches
10-0 14-0 0-0 (1500WP)
Current Fit: State Gunnlogi 1x Basic Heavy Shield Extender 1x Basic Shield Hardener 1x Basic Shield Booster
1x Basic Large Missile Turret 2x Small Rail Turret
1x CPU Booster 1x PG Booster (This is a tight fit)
I don't die often, but then again, I play VERY carefully. If I even get a single swarm shot at me, I'm gone. If I get hit by three or more swarms, I have to module to survive another shot or two, so I often just don't let it get to that point. Since all AV is explosive based, I tend to just tank the shots till I get out of range, using the shield booster if I get too low. The hardener is saved for taking on tanks that survive the first volley, or for when things get REALLY hairy.
My tank mainly ambushes LAV's and Other Tanks, but can also suppress infantry at range with my gunners or by "Sniping" with my Missile turret (I have gotten several kills from over 200m with the turret. You just tap shot it and get direct hits for over 400 damage)
This thing doesn't make infantry run for the hills, but it's great at removing other vehicles from the field, giving way for Blaster Tanks or LAV's and Dropships. It also acts as a turret platform, as I run two Rail Turrets on it. I can suppress infantry at range with gunners (Which I've actually had in my tank a few times. Most are surprisingly faithful in the tank, staying inside and targeting infantry and vehicles when they see them)
STRENGTHS: If played right, it's hard to kill. I'm not going to be tanking HUGE amounts of damage, but I can survive small bursts of combat practically forever (Shield tank working as intended IMO)
The gun turrets are great. I would love to see tanks made this way. Make the main Turret terrible for anti-infantry, but make the small turrets great against Infantry and decent against LAV's. This encourages teamwork with a gunner to make a tank a true infantry support unit.
WEAKNESSES: Poor anti-infantry capabilities. You gotta be at range, as missiles are terrible point blank. This is a fantastic anti-vehicle fit though. You pop almost everything in the game that doesn't have a hardener going in one volley.
Top Speed. So many Madrugers have escaped due to their nitro boosters. They tank the volley with hardeners and then GTFO to their redline. Personally, I'm fine with that. I play this tank opportunistically, rather than a straight up "Slayer" tank per se.
I'll field any more questions if you have any. Learning more about this every day.
FA's Stabber Extraordinaire
Minmatar Enthusiast
Explosions and Bulletstorm? Count me in!
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Haerr
Legio DXIV
1269
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Posted - 2014.08.27 06:10:00 -
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Murchen wrote:I seem to have forgotten my keys...
^
This SCOTTY has Super Cow Powers.
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mollerz
5150
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Posted - 2014.08.27 06:16:00 -
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noob spaceman wrote:My two pence on the shotgun thing. the shotgun is a piece of ****. its like 1.3- 1.4 pre hot fix in its hit detection with shots missing on target and shots that should never have landed counting as head shots. The fickle nature of it makes shotgun rain largely underwhelming and targets only half with in the reticule are even more fickle. I have had shots landin left or right of my reticule, even more so in fast paced raptor jumping. More frustrating are theshots clearly landing but having no, zero, nada, bumfucknopebrah effect on the bastard in front of me the.... bonus... just wow. now dont get your knickers in a twist. More damage? Yaaay! I like more damage. Damage is good, damage means when my shots land I beat your ass like your grandfarther did. But wheres my rof bonus? woooo more shield damage is great but I didn't spend all that sp for prof 5 for more shield damage. I spent that for higher dps and higher rate of fire. I spent that 3+ million sp on my shotgun for that bonus not this. Bitter vet mode right there but ehhhh. Now.... the big elephant in the room. The mother ******* cloak. Il get this out of the way. I despise the cloak so this bit you can ignore. Go outside, make a coffee or beat one off. Okay my rant mode engages.... NOWS. Its a broken, stupid, needless, pointless piece of equipment. its made scoutin not a niche role but easy mode at the highest level. We are no longer the face or soul of hard mode. We were what nyain san abused to the tenth degree. we are what became the common suit of choice. In pc and pubs. Invisibility in general unless built into the game from the start and has very clear counters and not just stuck on half way through is just a bad idea. More so without abilities to terminate the invisibility not just paint a little red shape on the tacnet. Anyways oh hi welcome back back to the shotty. The cloak is glossin over alot of problems with the shotgun with quite a few putting it down for a rifle or nks. My self included and with out the cloak I believe a large amount of us would be angry at how our trusted baby is performing. So before any changes to bonus's can be made or discussed we should have it performing at 1.5 levels and see how well it performs.
Fucken EH ploos oon.
Dingle Dust Berry.
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mollerz
5150
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Posted - 2014.08.27 06:30:00 -
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Update to Operation DS.
Please weigh in.
Dingle Dust Berry.
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Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1302
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Posted - 2014.08.27 08:45:00 -
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I haven't logged into my vehicle alt since FF and I have two other alts I made before then that I've never checked up on... What to do... What to do...
We'll bang, OK?
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Cass Caul
933
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Posted - 2014.08.27 13:51:00 -
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I had a lot of fun yesterday. I started the day with 154k SP left to earn. So I capped out. I haven;t earned that much SP in a single day in ages.
I started out by playing some FW this morning. Bought some ADV Assault suits. I've been debating with myself, do I want to get Amarr Scout V? I really don't. It's good enough at 4. Do I want to increase my SP investment in Weapons? No, cost/effectiveness is where it should be. My main really needs an Assault suit.
I had to stick true to my style. Got Gallente Assault up to 3. Bought 50x Fed Assault gk.0's. Gallente fangirl, OP armor tanking, innate repair, couldn't resist.
That's the suit a PRO Cal Scout with a PRO Shotgun got the drop on me, shooting me in the back. I quickly turned around, just in time to see the second shot hit me, then I opened fire on them and killed them. 254 shields 756 armor. 1060 eHP vs
Ok, so played some PC matches for my corp. Ugh. Cargo Hub, lost all three matches. Only one in my corp to go positive in all three matches. Got to roflstomp DJINN Rampage. A preternatural ability to find him and kill him.
Lol, so after battle I squad'ed up with him and the guys I just fought. They pulled me into a PC, got to try it out. Ended in the 3rd position on the killboard. Forgot how much fun a PC battle could be when you have people that actually know what they're doing.
Then I swapped out the rifle on the Gal-Ass for a shotgun. Lol, the stealth-shotgun doesn't work anymore. It's like what happened with the Cal-Scout every time. 2 shots, then dead. On the other hand. Being a big, obvious, glowing target for a Scout shotgunner, then because i'm not an idiot I know when they're sneaking up on me, I blast them in the face.
I blame her for nova knife kills on tanks
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hfderrtgvcd
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
359
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Posted - 2014.08.27 14:25:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:I had a lot of fun yesterday. I started the day with 154k SP left to earn. So I capped out. I haven;t earned that much SP in a single day in ages.
I started out by playing some FW this morning. Bought some ADV Assault suits. I've been debating with myself, do I want to get Amarr Scout V? I really don't. It's good enough at 4. Do I want to increase my SP investment in Weapons? No, cost/effectiveness is where it should be. My main really needs an Assault suit.
I had to stick true to my style. Got Gallente Assault up to 3. Bought 50x Fed Assault gk.0's. Gallente fangirl, OP armor tanking, innate repair, couldn't resist.
That's the suit a PRO Cal Scout with a PRO Shotgun got the drop on me, shooting me in the back. I quickly turned around, just in time to see the second shot hit me, then I opened fire on them and killed them. 254 shields 756 armor. 1060 eHP vs
Ok, so played some PC matches for my corp. Ugh. Cargo Hub, lost all three matches. Only one in my corp to go positive in all three matches. Got to roflstomp DJINN Rampage. A preternatural ability to find him and kill him.
Lol, so after battle I squad'ed up with him and the guys I just fought. They pulled me into a PC, got to try it out. Ended in the 3rd position on the killboard. Forgot how much fun a PC battle could be when you have people that actually know what they're doing.
Then I swapped out the rifle on the Gal-Ass for a shotgun. Lol, the stealth-shotgun doesn't work anymore. It's like what happened with the Cal-Scout every time. 2 shots, then dead. On the other hand. Being a big, obvious, glowing target for a Scout shotgunner, then because i'm not an idiot I know when they're sneaking up on me, I blast them in the face. Currently contemplating whether I should get Amar or minmatar assault. I already have proto scrambler and combat rifles. Btw what corp are you in? |
hfderrtgvcd
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
359
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Posted - 2014.08.27 14:26:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:I haven't logged into my vehicle alt since FF and I have two other alts I made before then that I've never checked up on... What to do... What to do... I tried flying dropships once and was just like nope ... never again. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
4519
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:21:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:I've been debating with myself, do I want to get Amarr Scout V? I really don't. It's good enough at 4.
Updated Charles EWAR table with AM Scout precision progressions (levels 1-5).
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
6744
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:55:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:Cass Caul wrote:I had a lot of fun yesterday. I started the day with 154k SP left to earn. So I capped out. I haven;t earned that much SP in a single day in ages.
I started out by playing some FW this morning. Bought some ADV Assault suits. I've been debating with myself, do I want to get Amarr Scout V? I really don't. It's good enough at 4. Do I want to increase my SP investment in Weapons? No, cost/effectiveness is where it should be. My main really needs an Assault suit.
I had to stick true to my style. Got Gallente Assault up to 3. Bought 50x Fed Assault gk.0's. Gallente fangirl, OP armor tanking, innate repair, couldn't resist.
That's the suit a PRO Cal Scout with a PRO Shotgun got the drop on me, shooting me in the back. I quickly turned around, just in time to see the second shot hit me, then I opened fire on them and killed them. 254 shields 756 armor. 1060 eHP vs
Ok, so played some PC matches for my corp. Ugh. Cargo Hub, lost all three matches. Only one in my corp to go positive in all three matches. Got to roflstomp DJINN Rampage. A preternatural ability to find him and kill him.
Lol, so after battle I squad'ed up with him and the guys I just fought. They pulled me into a PC, got to try it out. Ended in the 3rd position on the killboard. Forgot how much fun a PC battle could be when you have people that actually know what they're doing.
Then I swapped out the rifle on the Gal-Ass for a shotgun. Lol, the stealth-shotgun doesn't work anymore. It's like what happened with the Cal-Scout every time. 2 shots, then dead. On the other hand. Being a big, obvious, glowing target for a Scout shotgunner, then because i'm not an idiot I know when they're sneaking up on me, I blast them in the face. Currently contemplating whether I should get Amar or minmatar assault. I already have proto scrambler and combat rifles. Btw what corp are you in?
She's in Ancient Exiles
FA's Stabber Extraordinaire
Minmatar Enthusiast
Explosions and Bulletstorm? Count me in!
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
928
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Posted - 2014.08.27 17:13:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Charles EWAR updated to reflect bugged CalScout range vs intended CalScout range.
Good ******* spot that man that posted about this having tested over and over.
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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Cass Caul
935
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Posted - 2014.08.27 17:14:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote: She's in Ancient Exiles
it's been more than half a year since I was there
I blame her for nova knife kills on tanks
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