If you are good you can kill the majority of players before they line you up, even if you were naked. How would you fair against an equally skilled player in an Assault suit? At close range the SMG, when skilled into it as you are, has a DPS advantage over the Assault Riffle, but the Assault suit has more of a EHP advantage over he Scout suit. You used to be able to negate this by firing on the Assault suit while jumping around and orbiting them because the SMG had better tracking speed and no kick, while a moving target with a small hit box used to be hard to hit. Now, everything is easier to hit, including Scouts, so to win a stand up fight, you need to line up your shot and start firing faster than the other guy and aim for the face. If you have the skill to do that, you may still be successful, but the average Scout is not going to fair very well.

I have Proficiency 4, and Sharpshooter 3, but have not bothered with Rapid Reload and Ammo. I will say though that since I am old, this is my first consol game (although I did play Pong when it was new) and this is my first FPS since Doom in 1993, I am not a particularly good shot. Although my aim is vastly improved over when I started and I may now rate as Poor, rather than GÇ£absolutely horribleGÇ¥.

Welcome to our elite ranks. try not to die, it's rough as hell trying to be a scout.

Also, will go back to more scout+sniper, when I save up crazy-sp enough to unlock charged sniper rifle. Used to be my favourite thing. Oddly though, of late, I've been using a lot of assault+sniper in the middle of the field. Mostly because I have BPOs of them with the (edit)Vet pack though. fREEE!
And of course, because you now HAVE to be midfield for most sniping opportunities since they're mostly covered now

Waiiiitaminit....
I just read up on

http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Sniper_Rifle

According to THAT.. Charged sniper is only regular skill level 2. not proto level. Did I hallucinate previously that it was proto level?

Also... I was using my Vet. pack 'Covenant' sniper rifle BPO, along with my assault BPO, 'cause.. ya konw, it's a BPO, so must be just militia grade, right?

....
But only now, do i actually check stats and compare.

Holee ...
It's the same as an Ishukone, but BETTER, 'cause it has lower power and cpu requirements?!?!?!

I think I just found me a weapon specifically designed for a "scout sniper" !!
Methinks I'm gonna be doing a lot more scouting in the future

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Resources

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• Scout Corps? Scout Corps! by Kodho, Lightning xVx, Travi Zyg
• Beating Meta 8 Scanners by Shotty GoBang
• Passive Scan Range Maths (Gallente) by Shotty GoBang
• Skills and Skill Planner (Scroll to Bottom) by Dust 514 Wiki
• Stacking Penalty Calculator by Dust 514 Wiki
• Passive Scanning Test Results by Bojo The Mighty

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Guides

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• Unified Theory of Scan Profile by Chankk Saotome
• Immortal Guides by Fox Gaden
• Biotic Scout Guide by Driftward
• Missing! Link to Maken Tosch's Knife Guide
• Missing! Link to Bojo's Shotgun Scout Guide(s)

Anyone have links to Maken's Minja Guide or Bojo's Shotgun Scout Guides?
Kindly let me know if there are other up-to-date guides I may have missed.

So, how does the killboard work? I see numbers in brackets. I understand one is kills and the other kdr but I also see positive and negative numbers for kdr, makes it look like a stock market lol. Is there some sort of calculation or do we just send an update every x days with our updated stats?

I am holding it hostage until I can get it updated

5710 - voidfaction (670, -0.62)

Is voidfaction newly a scout? This data would suggest so....or 1.4 hit hard. God, that **** never happens to medium frames...

I put away my sniper rifle since 4.1 and been doing a lot of testing with range/precision while trying out different weapons. After yesterday mass deaths I think I'm done testing for a little while.

According to THAT.. Charged sniper is only regular skill level 2. not proto level. Did I hallucinate previously that it was proto level?

I was going against you yesterday morning. At one objective we were holed up for what seemed like half the match fighting back tides of reds that just had to have that room with "B" in it.

I remember raging after a death to a medium suit in that game.... and then turned around the next spawn and you killed me and I was like "oh, that's a scout, it's cool...."

Hope you make your way back to the scanning fits, I was using it and so many of those reds walked around corners or down stairs into a waiting hail of bullets. I remember you went like 4/11 and I was like "whoa, something must be going on..." For me it was one of my few good games yesterday.

Just to see if i get the same problem then anybody with the shotgun since uprising. When you are in a heads up while both strafing, did you noticed the second bullet go at the exact same place then the first except for ONE PELLET!!!, i liked so much chromosome but im ******* bored of the broken shotgun since uprising. I was enjoyed strafing duel in chrome but i feel i lose too many of them in uprising because the gun is broken im a DS3 player dont know if KBM get the same issue, thanks for your feeling shotgunner.

I have to post a retraction. My original instinct was correct: the BPO is only the same as the Level 1 sniper rifle.
The Ishokone has had a damage boost, but the wiki page had not been updated.

Awww...

On the brighter side, the charged sniper now has INSANE damage.. which is why they made it proto.

321 damage? is that WITHOUT charge??
I'm gonna love me somma dat. "One shot, one kill" here I come!
Now.. just gotta save up 30kabillion SP

321 damage? is that WITHOUT charge??
I'm gonna love me somma dat. "One shot, one kill" here I come!
Now.. just gotta save up 30kabillion SP

Unlocked my CRG-3 last night and loving it. A nice change of pace from my Nova Knifing activities. Anyone ever shoot a LAV driver out of the LAV while they driving by at top speed? Had that happen to me last night. Was quite amusing!

Was playing with some numbers today and came to 2 conclusions that would make a hell of a difference to scouts:
1) Double passive scanning range to 20m for scout suits - a fully specced minja can get to 30m and ganjas to 45m without mods; a very respectable passive scan distance that would give all of us a suitable edge on the battlefield without making us in any way overpowered.
2) Couple this with sharing our passive scan vision (maybe limited to squads only though CCP doesn't seem to like squad only advantages)

These things would allow us to actually perform the role of a scout adequately without giving us an unfair advantage over other suits.

If ganjas had 45 innate, adding one complex amplifier would bring passive to 65 meters. Just one. That means that passive would extend to the second ring. That might be a tad OP. Maken already calculated that Proto Scout with Proto Amplifiers would have a passive of 99, thus reaching the 3rd ring, the max. I think that although that requires a lot of sacrifice, the fact you can reach the full extent of minimap in passive with just 10 meters base, means that it will probably go no further without nerfing skills.

If ganjas had 45 innate, adding one complex amplifier would bring passive to 65 meters. Just one. That means that passive would extend to the second ring. That might be a tad OP. Maken already calculated that Proto Scout with Proto Amplifiers would have a passive of 99, thus reaching the 3rd ring, the max. I think that although that requires a lot of sacrifice, the fact you can reach the full extent of minimap in passive with just 10 meters base, means that it will probably go no further without nerfing skills.

Everyone is having this problem. CCP suggests that the issue is "visual effects only" and will be resolved in 1.5. Supposedly, the shotgun is dealing damage appropriately despite the quirky graphics. I don't buy it ... still miss bunny hoppers and strafers when I know I'm on target.

Original Bug Thread:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=109788

New Bug Thread:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1318519

- Shotty

I really like my scanning fits but my cQc game needs a lot of help. originally only wanted the scanning to help catch enemy sneaking up on me while sniping but the new buildings made sniping a bit harder and having the radar working nice keeps pulling me into cQc. also been using the radar to help with using optimal weapon ranges. just not figured out why my ar will hardly scratch the enemy at 80m but the enemy kills me in like 1 sec with an ar at 100m

Can't decide on a weapon now.
shotgun is really fun but i don't like to get that close and it cost me being able to have a long or medium range weapon.
flaylock was not bad in the new buildings with all the nice tight hallways and walls everywhere but again not enough to replace smg even though the smg seems to jam after first 3 shots fire on every full clip when using anything other than the proto smg.
laser was good but draws a line to where i am so not good for a stealth scout.
tac ar maybe if they fix the range so it beats the auto so I can play the range game
scrambler rifle is same with ar when it comes to me playing range vs range

in a group the laser, tac ar, and scrambler are pretty fun when staying just behind the front line mercs but the sniper is still better

might test more today before returning to my primary sniper/smg until they balance weapon ranges a little better or introduce a weapon with range better than ar and less than sniper like the tac ar should be. getting killed from 100m+ from fully auto ar fire when using a tac ar scope is just wrong. or is it because im only lvl 3 ar sharpshooter?