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mollerz wrote:

Haerr wrote:

[quote=Haerr]I've been trying out the Nova Knives for a bit now and while it is going a lot better than it did during the Shinobi event the sprint bugs are still there and very noticeably so. I keep running into it while I swipe and then try to either sprint or sprint jump to catch up with people back pedalling, often resulting in getting stuck in place and becoming an easy target.

What do you guys do to avoid running into this?

I call it the mash and slash. I don't care to crouch because that keeps you 100% static for a second. While mashing the sprint button, I try to strafe and slash. With luck you will pop into sprint or even normal movement. I rarely charge swipe people on the move. I orbit and slash.

Another move, and this is hard to pull off and takes practice, is to leap, charge in mid air, turn, and hit them in the side. Then slash and orbit. The reason you turn and aim for their side is to offset a miss. If you do this to their back and miss- they will keep moving and you will most likely get backpedal killed. If you miss and are at their side it gives you a second chance to slash and pray, and it makes it harder for them to backpedal away from you in time. They have a good chance of losing sight of you as well.

As you orbit you want to be just far enough away to see them, and stay at their 4 or 8 o'clock as you slash. For dramatic effect, kill their downed clone too Twisted

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Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2275	Posted - 2014.07.16 11:02:00 - [17911] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: Think Irish accent with a bit of emphasis on the third and seventh syllables. The v and the third r are silent by the way. Mate, not even someone from Cork could look at that and think it's a word. That ** looks welsh. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community**
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 552	Posted - 2014.07.16 11:20:00 - [17912] - Quote Bayeth Mal wrote: For those complaining that they're losing the reason they specced Cal. 1. Welcome to Dust, I hope you enjoy learning about the game and how CCP is totally different and original and likes to think "outside the box". 2. I specced Gal because I wanted damps and range (what I had pre 1.8). I loved blind scout on scout warfare and mostly focused my ewar on messing up the real enemy (med/heavy) and have always had at my core the instinct that scanned=death. Now I'm getting precision instead, yeah alright, whatever. I guess. Turns out the proposed Cal will be my next suit. Don't hear me complaining. 3. No respecs. I'm against respecs of any kind, ever, even the one we recently got I didn't like. Respecs are a slap in the face to those players who don't FotM chase. The 1.8 respec said to all those slayer logis "all is forgiven". Aurum respecs would be popular but fit the very definition of pay to win. The lack of respecs is one of the most important aspects in slowing down how quickly this game can get completely broken. Why you invalidate my feelings? Why you no acknowledge messing with the skill tree is borked too. ;-) You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2480	Posted - 2014.07.16 12:15:00 - [17913] - Quote I've ventured in the magical world of spreadsheets. Soon i will post: The Sk.0 shaman's modified mega spreadsheet. Waiting for assault changes. You will not like it. PSN: ogamega "Dust is full of communist who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items"
Haerr Legio DXIV 1036	Posted - 2014.07.16 12:23:00 - [17914] - Quote What do you guys think of this version? GOOGLE DOCS Edit: I'll hide impossible scanner such as heavy with 5 complex precision enhancers once I've bothered to test all functions to see that I haven't broken anything. Will vote for: pÇîA·P·P·I·ApÇì & pÇîR·H·A·D·ApÇì despite them hating on Nordic food customs. ;)
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 2917	Posted - 2014.07.16 12:26:00 - [17915] - Quote Haerr wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Hodor hfderrtgvcd = Hodor, I think we're done now :-) Signed. Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Haerr Legio DXIV 1036	Posted - 2014.07.16 12:30:00 - [17916] - Quote Haerr wrote: Bayeth Mal wrote: On a side note, if these numbers are confirmed we need to make a scanning table for the different tiers. Not everyone will be rolling around in PC fits. That would increase the code (formulas) that generate the table exponentially! Exponentially I say! Though I could expand the description to explain that you can change the skill and suit bonus yourself in the input sheet, that way you can set it to your current level and the table will update to show you a personalized one. Edit: Though it wouldn't show you weird combinations like 3 enhanced and 1 basic dampener, so I guess there isn't any point in doing that Will vote for: pÇîA·P·P·I·ApÇì & pÇîR·H·A·D·ApÇì despite them hating on Nordic food customs. ;)
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 2918	Posted - 2014.07.16 12:39:00 - [17917] - Quote Haerr wrote: Haerr wrote: Bayeth Mal wrote: On a side note, if these numbers are confirmed we need to make a scanning table for the different tiers. Not everyone will be rolling around in PC fits. That would increase the code (formulas) that generate the table exponentially! Exponentially I say! Though I could expand the description to explain that you can change the skill and suit bonus yourself in the input sheet, that way you can set it to your current level and the table will update to show you a personalized one. Edit: Though it wouldn't show you weird combinations like 3 enhanced and 1 basic dampener, so I guess there isn't any point in doing that Doesn't the misapplied stacking penalty bug still exist? You'd have to break your math to fit theirs :-) Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Haerr Legio DXIV 1036	Posted - 2014.07.16 12:45:00 - [17918] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Haerr wrote: Haerr wrote: Bayeth Mal wrote: On a side note, if these numbers are confirmed we need to make a scanning table for the different tiers. Not everyone will be rolling around in PC fits. That would increase the code (formulas) that generate the table exponentially! Exponentially I say! Though I could expand the description to explain that you can change the skill and suit bonus yourself in the input sheet, that way you can set it to your current level and the table will update to show you a personalized one. Edit: Though it wouldn't show you weird combinations like 3 enhanced and 1 basic dampener, so I guess there isn't any point in doing that Doesn't the misapplied stacking penalty bug still exist? You'd have to break your math to fit theirs :-) The stacking order bug is still there and is taken into account in this TABLE, if they fix the bug it will be trivial to change the table to match. I updated the table to include basic and enhanced profile dampeners because I am in search of CPU for a few of my fits, sadly no luck for me but I guess it could matter for the other scouts in some instances... Will vote for: pÇîA·P·P·I·ApÇì & pÇîR·H·A·D·ApÇì despite them hating on Nordic food customs. ;)
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 544	Posted - 2014.07.16 14:01:00 - [17919] - Quote Bayeth Mal wrote: For those complaining that they're losing the reason they specced Cal. 1. Welcome to Dust, I hope you enjoy learning about the game and how CCP is totally different and original and likes to think "outside the box". 2. I specced Gal because I wanted damps and range (what I had pre 1.8). I loved blind scout on scout warfare and mostly focused my ewar on messing up the real enemy (med/heavy) and have always had at my core the instinct that scanned=death. Now I'm getting precision instead, yeah alright, whatever. I guess. Turns out the proposed Cal will be my next suit. Don't hear me complaining. 3. No respecs. I'm against respecs of any kind, ever, even the one we recently got I didn't like. Respecs are a slap in the face to those players who don't FotM chase. The 1.8 respec said to all those slayer logis "all is forgiven". Aurum respecs would be popular but fit the very definition of pay to win. The lack of respecs is one of the most important aspects in slowing down how quickly this game can get completely broken. Thats a great outlook for you. It will serve you well (for dust) but it flies in the face of what was promised because your decisions dont matter, the consequences only hold until they turn the game upside down. Once or twice maybe fine but constantly its silly. Anyway - I'm long over it but I still understand why people would feel slighted. Maybe all suits should be the same and the only thing you level are skills "Shine bright like a diamond"
hfderrtgvcd Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 190	Posted - 2014.07.16 14:33:00 - [17920] - Quote Haerr wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Haerr wrote: Haerr wrote: Bayeth Mal wrote: On a side note, if these numbers are confirmed we need to make a scanning table for the different tiers. Not everyone will be rolling around in PC fits. That would increase the code (formulas) that generate the table exponentially! Exponentially I say! Though I could expand the description to explain that you can change the skill and suit bonus yourself in the input sheet, that way you can set it to your current level and the table will update to show you a personalized one. Edit: Though it wouldn't show you weird combinations like 3 enhanced and 1 basic dampener, so I guess there isn't any point in doing that Doesn't the misapplied stacking penalty bug still exist? You'd have to break your math to fit theirs :-) I updated the table to include basic and enhanced profile dampeners because I am in search of CPU for a few of my fits, sadly no luck for me but I guess it could matter for the other scouts in some instances... The stacking order bug is still there and is taken into account in this TABLE, if they fix the bug it will be trivial to change the table to match. After Charlie I think I might be able to fit core locuses on my gal scout . Slightly related, today I got a 6 man remote explosive kill. Best part about it was the uplink was still alive.

Llast 326 An Arkhos 3945	Posted - 2014.07.16 14:51:00 - [17921] - Quote Spademan wrote: hfderrtgvcd wrote: Think Irish accent with a bit of emphasis on the third and seventh syllables. The v and the third r are silent by the way. Mate, not even someone from Cork could look at that and think it's a word. That **** looks welsh. All my likes Just take them KRRROOOOOOM
Llast 326 An Arkhos 3945	Posted - 2014.07.16 14:54:00 - [17922] - Quote Haerr wrote: I've been trying out the Nova Knives for a bit now and while it is going a lot better than it did during the Shinobi event the sprint bugs are still there and very noticeably so. I keep running into it while I swipe and then try to either sprint or sprint jump to catch up with people back pedalling, often resulting in getting stuck in place and becoming an easy target. What do you guys do to avoid running into this? Edit: (:...[=\===> You can try to delay after the charge before sprinting but it's hard to avoid that. Really crouch then sprint, if you get fast at it it's alrightGÇª not a great solution. Also I find dying fixes it KRRROOOOOOM
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 2924	Posted - 2014.07.16 15:00:00 - [17923] - Quote hfderrtgvcd wrote: After Charlie I think I might be able to fit core locuses on my gal scout . Slightly related, today I got a 6 man remote explosive kill. Best part about it was the uplink was still alive. Hodor, I've given up on the ole' Prototype Anti-Personnel Grenade. If it can't injure/impede/kill a Heavy, why spend all that Isk on it? Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 15422	Posted - 2014.07.16 15:13:00 - [17924] - Quote Grenades are pretty lol in general atm. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11035	Posted - 2014.07.16 15:14:00 - [17925] - Quote Silly humans, flux grenades are ze best. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2280	Posted - 2014.07.16 15:18:00 - [17926] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Silly humans, flux grenades are ze best. I miss when they could accidentally kill. Those were fun times that made little sense. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2282	Posted - 2014.07.16 16:06:00 - [17927] - Quote In other news: After about 2 weeks of owning Dark Souls 2, just yesterday I managed to get into my groove. And it is sweet. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3526	Posted - 2014.07.16 16:23:00 - [17928] - Quote mollerz wrote: Brokerib wrote: Is it available? Can't find it on the playstore. Here ya go, dude! And for iPhones here. I see bungie forums are still down. Got the app on my phone, you can view the forums through the app but because they are down you can't post anything. Kinda awesome way of doing that. Really happy I can go between using its features and easily access the forums. Wish CCP's ones were that easy. . . but then again I'd want my DUST and EVE accounts merged so I don't have to log out and log back in everytime I switch. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 Personal Theme Song
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 2933	Posted - 2014.07.16 16:30:00 - [17929] - Quote Rattati's considering slot changes (Gal/Min excluded): https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2263490#post2263490 All of 'em look good to me, except perhaps the Adv CA (too weak) and Adv AM (too strong). What do you guys think? Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
mollerz 4067	Posted - 2014.07.16 16:40:00 - [17930] - Quote Spademan wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Silly humans, flux grenades are ze best. I miss when they could accidentally kill. Those were fun times that made little sense. I actually just killed a heavy (doing the weak lav crutch thing- I even have an email exchange with him about it- he was a douche surprise surprise) in an LAV with a fux nade two nights ago. It went down like this. There was an enemy tank, the heavy that just jumped out of his LAV, and the LAV. I threw my flux at the pile and someone, maybe Oz or Genocide, that blew up the tank as my flux went off. Everything blew up and I got damage points for the vehicles and killed the heavy. I was like Do you want awesome change? Do you want dust to rock like never before? Then vote Appia for CPM1

mollerz 4067	Posted - 2014.07.16 16:44:00 - [17931] - Quote @Shotty- that hodor interview.. lol. I had no idea he was that funny. Nor that he had face tats! @Haerr- You like pwn3d me! lol. Do you want awesome change? Do you want dust to rock like never before? Then vote Appia for CPM1
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 2934	Posted - 2014.07.16 16:47:00 - [17932] - Quote Quoting random in Local: "Dude. Destiny will have more raging pre-teens than CoD." Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
mollerz 4067	Posted - 2014.07.16 16:48:00 - [17933] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Rattati's considering slot changes (Gal/Min excluded): https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2263490#post2263490 All of 'em look good to me, except perhaps the Adv CA (too weak) and Adv AM (too strong). What do you guys think? I still think they should switch up Amarr/Min.. especially with the new layout. But I am not even going to bother to voice that opinion. I have better ways to waste my time Do you want awesome change? Do you want dust to rock like never before? Then vote Appia for CPM1
Appia Nappia 1010	Posted - 2014.07.16 16:50:00 - [17934] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Rattati's considering slot changes (Gal/Min excluded): https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2263490#post2263490 All of 'em look good to me, except perhaps the Adv CA (too weak) and Adv AM (too strong). What do you guys think? buhuwahaha. OMG. Amarr Assault with 2H/5L. That's so bad. Armor and shields are still unbalanced, imo, so this is a buff to the Amarr Assault. My Scouts' slots aren't being touched, and the gal-logi STD and ADV look like they're going to be fixed And really happy about the Min and Cal-Ass trading layouts Secretly Appia Vibbia If you can read my signature... I'm on the wrong alt.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 2935	Posted - 2014.07.16 16:58:00 - [17935] - Quote Appia Nappia wrote: buhuwahaha. Amarr Assault + ScR is already pretty dang good. Somewhere ... right now ... People in Gilded Helms are reading pages and pages of happy walltext :-) Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 6071	Posted - 2014.07.16 17:19:00 - [17936] - Quote Min Assault 4/3 <3 Dual tanking is going to be great. 3x shield, 1x recharge 1x reactive 1x speed 1x regulator How I Imagine I look when running Minmatar Scout PSN: EVL_Elgost105
Appia Nappia 1011	Posted - 2014.07.16 17:21:00 - [17937] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Min Assault 4/3 <3 Dual tanking is going to be great. 3x shield, 1x recharge 1x reactive 1x speed 1x regulator I was thinking ferro over reactive, but yeah that's basically the same thing Secretly Appia Vibbia If you can read my signature... I'm on the wrong alt.
mollerz 4073	Posted - 2014.07.16 17:55:00 - [17938] - Quote Haerr wrote: [quote=Haerr]I've been trying out the Nova Knives for a bit now and while it is going a lot better than it did during the Shinobi event the sprint bugs are still there and very noticeably so. I keep running into it while I swipe and then try to either sprint or sprint jump to catch up with people back pedalling, often resulting in getting stuck in place and becoming an easy target. What do you guys do to avoid running into this? I call it the mash and slash. I don't care to crouch because that keeps you 100% static for a second. While mashing the sprint button, I try to strafe and slash. With luck you will pop into sprint or even normal movement. I rarely charge swipe people on the move. I orbit and slash. Another move, and this is hard to pull off and takes practice, is to leap, charge in mid air, turn, and hit them in the side. Then slash and orbit. The reason you turn and aim for their side is to offset a miss. If you do this to their back and miss- they will keep moving and you will most likely get backpedal killed. If you miss and are at their side it gives you a second chance to slash and pray, and it makes it harder for them to backpedal away from you in time. They have a good chance of losing sight of you as well. As you orbit you want to be just far enough away to see them, and stay at their 4 or 8 o'clock as you slash. For dramatic effect, kill their downed clone too Do you want awesome change? Do you want dust to rock like never before? Then vote Appia for CPM1
mollerz 4074	Posted - 2014.07.16 18:09:00 - [17939] - Quote Out of curiosity, I went and checked out eve ships. I was wrong :( I guess they are doing min/amarr according to lore. I never checked out amarr ships before (just minmatar/caldari).. and thought they were all about beauty and symmetry and dual tanking from the lore I read. Does anyone play eve here? Maybe I will resurrect my toon. I never really got into PVP on eve.. just exploration. I only have one kill. and even then I didn't pod the guy. I was too nice! But it might be fun to ge tinto PVP. I'm pretty highly skilled. I think I had like 72mil SP when I put him into cold storage. Do you want awesome change? Do you want dust to rock like never before? Then vote Appia for CPM1
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 2099	Posted - 2014.07.16 18:19:00 - [17940] - Quote mollerz wrote: Haerr wrote: [quote=Haerr]I've been trying out the Nova Knives for a bit now and while it is going a lot better than it did during the Shinobi event the sprint bugs are still there and very noticeably so. I keep running into it while I swipe and then try to either sprint or sprint jump to catch up with people back pedalling, often resulting in getting stuck in place and becoming an easy target. What do you guys do to avoid running into this? I call it the mash and slash. I don't care to crouch because that keeps you 100% static for a second. While mashing the sprint button, I try to strafe and slash. With luck you will pop into sprint or even normal movement. I rarely charge swipe people on the move. I orbit and slash. Another move, and this is hard to pull off and takes practice, is to leap, charge in mid air, turn, and hit them in the side. Then slash and orbit. The reason you turn and aim for their side is to offset a miss. If you do this to their back and miss- they will keep moving and you will most likely get backpedal killed. If you miss and are at their side it gives you a second chance to slash and pray, and it makes it harder for them to backpedal away from you in time. They have a good chance of losing sight of you as well. As you orbit you want to be just far enough away to see them, and stay at their 4 or 8 o'clock as you slash. For dramatic effect, kill their downed clone too I've also stopped trying to charge in melee range... typically I only charge if I'm coming up behind someone. Or getting the drop on someone. Yesterday my only knife kill was the result of VD walking up the stairs while I was waiting charged around a corner. She walked right into my knives. I think the only other kill that game (2/7) was a remote trap. Dang. It's like being a noob all over again!! The sprint bug is annoying but I actually haven't encountered it as much as it sounds like you have, Haerr. Double posting like a Kaiser.



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