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Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 2203	Posted - 2014.06.24 13:17:00 - [16111] - Quote Considering a change to the Polish Proposal ... Minja Poll (which do you prefer): * 8% fitting reduction to Biotics * 5% efficacy to Biotics Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 1300	Posted - 2014.06.24 13:29:00 - [16112] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Got a 4x NK killfeed on STB STB actually played a PC game?! Thats a pretty rare event. Plus NK kills on STB....pssshhhhaaa. Thats like taking candy from a baby jesus. Nice job either way. The killers are still around, plenty of them, most of them don't play PC because its a terrible game mode. I don't know how you can stand Zatara during PC matches anyway. I couldn't concentrate with his constant talking. I understand you need constant communication but thats excessive. 9 games in a row......slow clap Adipem Nothi wrote: Considering a change to the Polish Proposal ... Minja Poll (which do you prefer): * 8% fitting reduction to Biotics * 5% efficacy to Biotics Shotty its better IMO for a fitting reduction. But I think we should look at numbers and see if that provides a decent enough boost without making the logi scream for a better fitting reduction. (theirs is only 5%/level) My Youtube Biomassed Podcast
Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5436	Posted - 2014.06.24 13:32:00 - [16113] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Lol Bojo Discussion: How to Fit a Minmatar Scout Basis: Lots of folks out there think we're making this sh*t up. I don't know how you guys manage to fit KinCats and Codebreakers without gimping it down to a toothless, defenseless shell. The herpaderps say we should be running plates instead of maximizing our strengths. Maybe they're on to something. Ghost Kaisars Efficient PC fit Only works now due to Shield changes 2x Complex shield 1x enhanced shield Six Kin ACR Ishnoks Basic Flux F/45 RE Adv Cloak (I really need to get Proto....) 1x Complex Speed 2x Complex Damp That Crazy Minmatar Fanatic Stabbing Heavies for the Republic since Uprising 1.1 PSN: EVL_Elgost105
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 1444	Posted - 2014.06.24 13:49:00 - [16114] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Considering a change to the Polish Proposal ... Minja Poll (which do you prefer): * 8% fitting reduction to Biotics * 5% efficacy to Biotics Efficacy, CCP Ratattaittiatai has mentioned a couple of times he's open to changing either modules or suits fitting requirements, as recently as a couple of hours ago. Even if that takes a while, you can fit enhanced kin cats for a near proto increase (about 10.5% per unit). Knowledge is power
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 2205	Posted - 2014.06.24 14:10:00 - [16115] - Quote Brokerib wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Considering a change to the Polish Proposal ... Minja Poll (which do you prefer): * 8% fitting reduction to Biotics * 5% efficacy to Biotics Efficacy, CCP Ratattaittiatai has mentioned a couple of times he's open to changing either modules or suits fitting requirements, as recently as a couple of hours ago. Even if that takes a while, you can fit enhanced kin cats for a near proto increase (about 10.5% per unit). Update: \o/ Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 528	Posted - 2014.06.24 14:17:00 - [16116] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Considering a change to the Polish Proposal ... Minja Poll (which do you prefer): * 8% fitting reduction to Biotics * 5% efficacy to Biotics Update: \o/ No math guy so the gods out there can correct me : 0.92 * 15 = 13.8, 1.05 * 9.35 = 9.82 9.82 beats a reduction of 1 PG any day. Or I'm missing something "Shine bright like a diamond"
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 2206	Posted - 2014.06.24 14:22:00 - [16117] - Quote Master Smurf wrote: Or I'm missing something You missed something :-) 8%(x5)=40% ... KinCat: 15PG ---> 6PG Scratch the thought. Let's wait for Rattati to work his magic. Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Jaceon Pale-eye OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 140	Posted - 2014.06.24 15:45:00 - [16118] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: F/45 RE Why? I've debated investing the SP in advanced REs, but even after the nerf to basic REs, I can plant three on a tank, flux it, and no more Madrugar/Gunnlogi/Soma/Sica. I also typically plant two on an objective after I hack it, so even the toughest proto heavy dies when I detonate them - and if they got fluxed, it doesn't matter if they're proto REs, they're still gone. I see that they allow for four remotes to be active, but still only give you three to carry, so... Why use the advanced RE, with its heavier fitting requirement? Serious, honest question here. I see F/45's in the kill feed all the time. Vote Appia Vibbia for CPM1 or I'll stab you in the neck! (ingame m8 m8 o7 o7)
Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5444	Posted - 2014.06.24 16:04:00 - [16119] - Quote Jaceon Pale-eye wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: F/45 RE Why? I've debated investing the SP in advanced REs, but even after the nerf to basic REs, I can plant three on a tank, flux it, and no more Madrugar/Gunnlogi/Soma/Sica. I also typically plant two on an objective after I hack it, so even the toughest proto heavy dies when I detonate them - and if they got fluxed, it doesn't matter if they're proto REs, they're still gone. I see that they allow for four remotes to be active, but still only give you three to carry, so... Why use the advanced RE, with its heavier fitting requirement? Serious, honest question here. I see F/45's in the kill feed all the time. They are more powerful grenades with insane damage I use them to clear heavies from objectives on Pc. The arm time is the main reason why That Crazy Minmatar Fanatic Stabbing Heavies for the Republic since Uprising 1.1 PSN: EVL_Elgost105
Jaceon Pale-eye OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 140	Posted - 2014.06.24 16:09:00 - [16120] - Quote Was not aware arm time was different. Better RE = shorter arming time? Vote Appia Vibbia for CPM1 or I'll stab you in the neck! (ingame m8 m8 o7 o7)

Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5444	Posted - 2014.06.24 16:13:00 - [16121] - Quote Jaceon Pale-eye wrote: Was not aware arm time was different. Better RE = shorter arming time? As far as I know, yes. Not sure if it changed with the RE changes That Crazy Minmatar Fanatic Stabbing Heavies for the Republic since Uprising 1.1 PSN: EVL_Elgost105
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1988	Posted - 2014.06.24 16:36:00 - [16122] - Quote Can't believe I've not mentioned it yet, but Pyrex has a bounty on himself. Kill him with a Flaylock. Ya'll can find him pretty consistently at about 17:00 UTC in Domination. Happy Hunting. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5447	Posted - 2014.06.24 16:46:00 - [16123] - Quote Spademan wrote: Can't believe I've not mentioned it yet, but Pyrex has a bounty on himself. Kill him with a Flaylock. Ya'll can find him pretty consistently at about 17:00 UTC in Domination. Happy Hunting. He also never gets out of his tank Last I saw he Was running Dom in a gunloggi with judge flying ADS That Crazy Minmatar Fanatic Stabbing Heavies for the Republic since Uprising 1.1 PSN: EVL_Elgost105
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1989	Posted - 2014.06.24 17:03:00 - [16124] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Spademan wrote: Can't believe I've not mentioned it yet, but Pyrex has a bounty on himself. Kill him with a Flaylock. Ya'll can find him pretty consistently at about 17:00 UTC in Domination. Happy Hunting. He also never gets out of his tank Last I saw he Was running Dom in a gunloggi with judge flying ADS I've not seen him in a vehicle for quite some time. I only see him running with a Plasma Cannon lately. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14791	Posted - 2014.06.24 17:33:00 - [16125] - Quote Encountered wild redberry with ion pistol. He failed to claim bounty. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Polka will never die.
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 1302	Posted - 2014.06.24 19:03:00 - [16126] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Considering a change to the Polish Proposal ... Minja Poll (which do you prefer): * 8% fitting reduction to Biotics * 5% efficacy to Biotics Update: \o/ While I understand that lowering kincat PG would be nice, it will buff all frames, not just the minmitar. Which is not what we want. Codebreakers and kincats need to be difficult to fit IMO. The same goes with equipment. If all the frames can easily fit equipment you step on the toes of the support logi. Its part of the reason we don't have real support logi. Cause most people can "support" themselves. My Youtube Biomassed Podcast
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 2123	Posted - 2014.06.24 19:38:00 - [16127] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Jaceon Pale-eye wrote: Was not aware arm time was different. Better RE = shorter arming time? As far as I know, yes. Not sure if it changed with the RE changes Yes. It is 3 seconds at adv I believe in terms of arming time, where as std are at 4. Not to mention that you get 250 extra HP per RE AND get an extra active RE. This way, you can either put just 1 RE down per objective and feel safer OR stick with 2 and be able to cover 2 objectives with the 4 REs. I switched awhile ago and found them to be more destructive on tanks. I haven't tried since the nerf, but pre beta I was able to take out tanks that took off before I could get a 3rd RE on but could still flux. This is how a minja feels
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 2218	Posted - 2014.06.24 21:15:00 - [16128] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Considering a change to the Polish Proposal ... Minja Poll (which do you prefer): * 8% fitting reduction to Biotics * 5% efficacy to Biotics Update: \o/ While I understand that lowering kincat PG would be nice, it will buff all frames, not just the minmitar. Which is not what we want. Codebreakers and kincats need to be difficult to fit IMO. The same goes with equipment. If all the frames can easily fit equipment you step on the toes of the support logi. Its part of the reason we don't have real support logi. Cause most people can "support" themselves. :: considers punching gift horse in mouth :: I say we take what we can get. Straighten out the wrinkles later. Good chance he's gonna change up pg/cpu req's anyway; it'd be a shame to ask for a bonus now which we'll complain about later. Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3020	Posted - 2014.06.24 21:57:00 - [16129] - Quote still no word on moving any of the low slots modules to high slots? Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14813	Posted - 2014.06.24 21:58:00 - [16130] - Quote As someone who primarily armour tanks the prospect of having an actually useful module in the high slots other than shield extenders makes me salivate. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Polka will never die.

Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5453	Posted - 2014.06.24 21:58:00 - [16131] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: still no word on moving any of the low slots modules to high slots? CCP LOL wrote: Dust Merc's, we have decided to move ALL of the Low Slot modules to the High Slots. No, we aren't changing the slot layouts. Welcome to EVE, where your decisions MATTER! That Crazy Minmatar Fanatic Stabbing Heavies for the Republic since Uprising 1.1 PSN: EVL_Elgost105
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3020	Posted - 2014.06.24 22:04:00 - [16132] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Appia Vibbia wrote: still no word on moving any of the low slots modules to high slots? CCP LOL wrote: Dust Merc's, we have decided to move ALL of the Low Slot modules to the High Slots. No, we aren't changing the slot layouts. Welcome to DUST, where your decisions MATTER! We may lack FORESIGHT! But we make it up in OBSTINENCE! Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3021	Posted - 2014.06.24 22:10:00 - [16133] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Considering a change to the Polish Proposal ... Minja Poll (which do you prefer): * 8% fitting reduction to Biotics * 5% efficacy to Biotics Update: \o/ While I understand that lowering kincat PG would be nice, it will buff all frames, not just the minmitar. Which is not what we want. Codebreakers and kincats need to be difficult to fit IMO. The same goes with equipment. If all the frames can easily fit equipment you step on the toes of the support logi. Its part of the reason we don't have real support logi. Cause most people can "support" themselves. See, the problem with that is that we've seen time and again that if a module cost too much to fit than it won't be used at all. No one was using complex plates until they increased the HP and decreased movement penalty. No one used Enhanced Shield Extenders until they buffed them because the HP to Fitting ratio was too restrictive. Still need to wait it out for people to get used to the Recharger, Energizer, and Regulator changes but even with the buff I doubt anyone is running PRO Energizers or Rechargers because that CPU cost is way too much to be useful Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 2126	Posted - 2014.06.24 22:22:00 - [16134] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: As someone who primarily armour tanks the prospect of having an actually useful module in the high slots other than shield extenders makes me salivate. Here is the question I have, as a general question of modules and balance, and isn't intended to be a recommendation for any future fixes so no undie bunches please. Why is it that modules such as shield extenders and armor plates are on opposite slot sides? I just think it would be easier to create the needed sacrifices if such things were on the same side. This is how a minja feels
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3021	Posted - 2014.06.24 22:27:00 - [16135] - Quote Because the game is modeled on EVE-Online. Your Weapon Slots, Grenade Slots and Equipment Slots are the equivelent of High Slots The High Slots are almost the exact same as Medium Slots* The Low Slots are almost the exact same as Low Slots** * EVE has Micro-Warp Drivers and Afterburners in the Medium Slots while DUST has KinCats and CardRegs in the Low ** EVE has damage mods in the Low Slots, DUST has damage mods in the High Slots Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14822	Posted - 2014.06.24 23:00:00 - [16136] - Quote Modelling it on EVE with only a few analogous mechanics has always seemed ridiculous to me. If I were to argue for having the modules on opposite sides it would be to allow slot layouts to encourage a style of tanking over the other. If I were to argue against it I'd say that we have a load of dual-tanking anyway. I dislike dual tanking. I've always felt that things should be tweaked so people are encouraging to primarily use a single style of tanking and then use the other rack of slots for utility modules - for example, shields and then kincats/dampeners. If I were to rebalance DUST I'd give the tanking modules high PG/low CPU usage, and vice versa with the utility modules, then tweak suit PG/CPU values. You could avoid things like battle logis or scouts while still giving them plenty of slots by giving them low PG and high CPU, then. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Polka will never die.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 3774	Posted - 2014.06.24 23:06:00 - [16137] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Modelling it on EVE with only a few analogous mechanics has always seemed ridiculous to me. If I were to argue for having the modules on opposite sides it would be to allow slot layouts to encourage a style of tanking over the other. If I were to argue against it I'd say that we have a load of dual-tanking anyway. I dislike dual tanking. I've always felt that things should be tweaked so people are encouraging to primarily use a single style of tanking and then use the other rack of slots for utility modules - for example, shields and then kincats/dampeners. If I were to rebalance DUST I'd give the tanking modules high PG/low CPU usage, and vice versa with the utility modules, then tweak suit PG/CPU values. You could avoid things like battle logis or scouts while still giving them plenty of slots by giving them low PG and high CPU, then. I'd prefer % values to healthGÇª the with distinction given as they are now on suits. This would allow for pg/cpu dynamic to still allow for interesting mixes and suit builds. But I agree with your idea KRRROOOOOOM
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 2221	Posted - 2014.06.24 23:07:00 - [16138] - Quote Iggy, Moody wrote: While I understand that lowering kincat PG would be nice, it will buff all frames, not just the minmitar. Which is not what we want. I don't know that I agree with this. It certainly isn't a buff to everyone; it would only benefit those who use KinCats. Rattati himself classified the modules as "lesser used" ... Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Llast 326 An Arkhos 3775	Posted - 2014.06.24 23:10:00 - [16139] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Iggy, Moody wrote: While I understand that lowering kincat PG would be nice, it will buff all frames, not just the minmitar. Which is not what we want. I don't know that I agree with this. It certainly isn't a buff to everyone; it would only benefit those who use KinCats. Rattati himself classified the modules as "lesser used" ... I'm with Shotty What suit is going to fit them that did not already have the fitting space? KRRROOOOOOM
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 605	Posted - 2014.06.24 23:12:00 - [16140] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Iggy, Moody wrote: While I understand that lowering kincat PG would be nice, it will buff all frames, not just the minmitar. Which is not what we want. I don't know that I agree with this. It certainly isn't a buff to everyone; it would only benefit those who use KinCats. Rattati himself classified the modules as "lesser used" ... I'm with Shotty What suit is going to fit them that did not already have the fitting space? Gallente!! oh wait, they already have 96 PG to spare... "Goddamn it! I have to take out my plasma cannon to kill him cause I can't kill him with my flay lock!" -Buzz Kill



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