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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
1890
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Posted - 2014.05.21 04:12:00 -
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Jaceon Pale-eye wrote:So is it too late to be new around here? =/
Welcome, new scout! o7
See you later, Denak. o7
Double posting like a Kaiser.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
853
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Posted - 2014.05.21 04:22:00 -
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Jaceon Pale-eye wrote:So is it too late to be new around here? =/ If you're a Scout (or an aspiring Scout) you are absolutely welcome. Glad to see you found your way into D.UNI. A good start.
We're here to help should you need it. Feel free to ask questions. And don't forget to join in-game channel Scouts United.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
856
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Posted - 2014.05.21 04:33:00 -
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LeGoose wrote:Hey guys need some advice for PC capable fits for my minja and cal scout. I already have a speed hacking fit for the minja and a dual precision for cal but could use some others. Also any general advice for play style/tactics. I'm finding my usual methods aren't quite up to my own standards of performance even if I am helping my team.
Caldari PC Fits Highs: Shields, Precision, or Damage Amps Lows: Range Extenders or Damps EQ: Cloak, REs or Active Scanner Primary: RR or ACR
I tend to avoid heavies, play defensively, share my scans and take cheap shots at wounded or vulnerable targets. In my opinion, Cal makes for an excellent support/defense unit, but not a particularly great slayer.
Can't comment on Min as I have run one in PC yet. The ones I've seen all run ACRs + REs.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
367
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Posted - 2014.05.21 04:50:00 -
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I'm realising I should have gone Cal as what you're describing Shotty is what I was doing Pre 1.8
Ya know, since 1.8 I haven't been playing much, really just jumping on for PC where I'm needed either as HMG or tanker. Finding both pretty meh. So have only done a handfull of matches with Monk and a couple of others. Will be on this Friday night US time if anybody wants to pull me into a scout squad.
Heading over to Destiny Beta and a few others
Hit me up for Skype and PSN
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
1607
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Posted - 2014.05.21 05:43:00 -
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I feel like I can almost retire now.
Just played against Moody and Mustard.
Got knifed by Mustard, I feel that should go on my wall somewhere.
Got killed a couple times by Moody, but managed to get a knife kill in on him.
The funny thing was, just as the match was starting, I was thinking to myself how I haven't seen anyone in the games that I have really recognized. Then I saw the kill feed, and all I thought was FML.
"I've made a huge mistake."
-G.O.B. Bluth
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mollerz
3536
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:20:00 -
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I'd ******* love to have all of us scouts vs scouts on a metro BF4 PS4 LAN party.
Your Welcome
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mollerz
3536
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Posted - 2014.05.21 06:29:00 -
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!DPLAK!
That would be 32 vs 32.
:D
Your Welcome
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Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
368
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Posted - 2014.05.21 07:21:00 -
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I have BF4 for PS4 so I'm in, haven't really played much of it though.
Heading over to Destiny Beta and a few others
Hit me up for Skype and PSN
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Jaceon Pale-eye
DUST University Ivy League
4
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Posted - 2014.05.21 08:44:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Jaceon Pale-eye wrote:So is it too late to be new around here? =/ You're like the guy who gets put into the match after it's over. On the losing team... ...the rookie who never made it past his first jump out the MCC... ..No one even knew what to say at your funeral because no one ever knew you... We leave such eulogies to Quil. walks away Ouch. Being that guy sucks :(
But I opened Scouts United (nice to see people there, since R0N1N's channel is silent now) and I'll be continuing to try to become a scarier scout in between bouts of Python and Madrugar antics.
The first question I have, really, is whether it's more useful in the short term to spend the 300+k SP on Minnie Scout 3 or the 200+k SP on Engineering 3. I already have Electronics 5 and Cloaking 5 (logged in with 4.9m unspent SP last month... did not notice the Engineering skill until it was too late). There're times when I feel it'd be great to fit an ADV cloak, or even the proto one, but I just don't have the CPU/Grid to fit more than the STD at Minnie Scout lvl 2.
I mostly snipe, to be honest, but there're maps that just aren't conducive to sniping for one side or the other (or both), so I've been getting in a good bit of practice with dropping links in good places, shotgunning and ninja hacking some of the extra-curriculars like supply depots and CRUs. |
Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
7559
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Posted - 2014.05.21 10:29:00 -
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mollerz wrote:You could play it on PS3 until you get a PS4. They will let you transfer your character over, and a lot of scouts here are going the PS3 beta/release route. we have a new barbershop over at bungie.net. keep in touch over there dude!
Sounds good. I'll try to get it soon.
One Eyed King wrote:Is he allowed?
I thought it was rated T for teen. Every time!
New [self proclaimed] CEO of Fatal Absolution
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
863
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Posted - 2014.05.21 12:40:00 -
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@ Jaceon Pale-eye
#1) Don't tell anyone around here that you're into Madrugars and Pythons. No one will talk to you. #2) Save up for a Scout Level(5). It'll take some time, but the passive bonuses are worth it. #3) You're on the right path. AfterLevel(5) Scout, keep sinking points into Core Uppgrades.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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LeGoose
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
266
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Posted - 2014.05.21 12:43:00 -
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Jaceon Pale-eye wrote:mollerz wrote:Jaceon Pale-eye wrote:So is it too late to be new around here? =/ You're like the guy who gets put into the match after it's over. On the losing team... ...the rookie who never made it past his first jump out the MCC... ..No one even knew what to say at your funeral because no one ever knew you... We leave such eulogies to Quil. walks away Ouch. Being that guy sucks :( But I opened Scouts United (nice to see people there, since R0N1N's channel is silent now) and I'll be continuing to try to become a scarier scout in between bouts of Python and Madrugar antics. The first question I have, really, is whether it's more useful in the short term to spend the 300+k SP on Minnie Scout 3 or the 200+k SP on Engineering 3. I already have Electronics 5 and Cloaking 5 (logged in with 4.9m unspent SP last month... did not notice the Engineering skill until it was too late). There're times when I feel it'd be great to fit an ADV cloak, or even the proto one, but I just don't have the CPU/Grid to fit more than the STD at Minnie Scout lvl 2. I mostly snipe, to be honest, but there're maps that just aren't conducive to sniping for one side or the other (or both), so I've been getting in a good bit of practice with dropping links in good places, shotgunning and ninja hacking some of the extra-curriculars like supply depots and CRUs. In the short term you would probably see the most benefit from getting your minja to level 3 for the hacking bonus and for the bonus to fitting the cloak.
However, engineering V is an absolute must for a minja scout. The suit is very low on pg to begin with and every bit you can get is very important.
Click it! I dare you...
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Jaceon Pale-eye
DUST University Ivy League
7
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Posted - 2014.05.21 12:59:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:@ Jaceon Pale-eye
#1) Don't tell anyone around here that you're into Madrugars and Pythons. No one will talk to you. Is it that bad? I just get tired of getting chased off of skyscrapers by the bastards when I'm sniping xD
LeGoose wrote:In the short term you would probably see the most benefit from getting your minja to level 3 for the hacking bonus and for the bonus to fitting the cloak.
However, engineering V is an absolute must for a minja scout. The suit is very low on pg to begin with and every bit you can get is very important. Roger. I guess I'll be going back and forth from Minja to Engineering, whichever's less SP for the next level (after Minja 3, which is actually 100k higher right now).
Will prolly splurge on Adv Knives in between somewhere, too. Stabbed an Adv Amarr heavy in the back of the head with standard knives on full charge once, then had to dance around him and stab him uncharged three more times. One of my most satisfying kills to date. Would be nice to have better knives...
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1145
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Posted - 2014.05.21 14:13:00 -
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Minja bonus will add to your knife damage too, so it's a good start if you can get knives to advanced as well, the standard knives are trash.
I'd keep pushing levels of minja after that instead of looking to engineering etc. The reduction is cloak fitting cost is substantial, and if you're planning on fitting a cloak regularly it should be comparable to what you'd get out of engineering anyway, plus you'll get a reduction in CPU usage. Combine that with the hacking and knife bonus, then it will have a much greater effect on your game play than additional PG alone.
Knowledge is power
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3159
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Posted - 2014.05.21 15:05:00 -
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Jaceon Pale-eye wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:@ Jaceon Pale-eye
#1) Don't tell anyone around here that you're into Madrugars and Pythons. No one will talk to you. Is it that bad? I just get tired of getting chased off of skyscrapers by the bastards when I'm sniping xD LeGoose wrote:In the short term you would probably see the most benefit from getting your minja to level 3 for the hacking bonus and for the bonus to fitting the cloak.
However, engineering V is an absolute must for a minja scout. The suit is very low on pg to begin with and every bit you can get is very important. Roger. I guess I'll be going back and forth from Minja to Engineering, whichever's less SP for the next level (after Minja 3, which is actually 100k higher right now). Will prolly splurge on Adv Knives in between somewhere, too. Stabbed an Adv Amarr heavy in the back of the head with standard knives on full charge once, then had to dance around him and stab him uncharged three more times. One of my most satisfying kills to date. Would be nice to have better knives... I love to RE Madrugars
Everybody has given you the advice I would have as well, so I have nothing to add exceptGǪ Welcome
In other news I melee killed a Cal Heavy last nightGǪ with my Gal One Ion Pistol shot and he tried to hit me with his forge in CQC Then I got in close while he sprayed his SMG randomlyGǪ 4 melee hits later
KRRROOOOOOM
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
2839
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Posted - 2014.05.21 15:50:00 -
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I'm rated S for Scout4LyfeYoloz.
This message was brought to you by the PC master race.
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Jaceon Pale-eye
DUST University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2014.05.21 19:23:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Minja bonus will add to your knife damage too, so it's a good start if you can get knives to advanced as well, the standard knives are trash. Just curious, do you find yourself using the shotgun or the knives more for CQC?
Thanks o7
Llast 326 wrote:In other news I melee killed a Cal Heavy last nightGǪ with my Gal One Ion Pistol shot and he tried to hit me with his forge in CQC Then I got in close while he sprayed his SMG randomlyGǪ 4 melee hits later Were you charging for each strike, or did I do the right thing by just applying what damage i could uncharged on that heavy and focusing on avoiding his sidearm rather than trying to charge the knives as well? Just kinda feeling out where I need the most work as far as "getting good". I already know I need to work on my approach and probably increase profile dampening skill (peeps seem to turn around at just the last second when I'm creeping up on 'em a little too often for my tastes).
8.2m sp and so many skills I still need to train. The weekly bonus SP cap makes this game take longer to skill into a specialty than Eve, even.
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J0LLY R0G3R
Legion Alpha Tester
826
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Posted - 2014.05.21 19:43:00 -
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LeGoose wrote:Hey guys need some advice for PC capable fits for my minja and cal scout. I already have a speed hacking fit for the minja and a dual precision for cal but could use some others. Also any general advice for play style/tactics. I'm finding my usual methods aren't quite up to my own standards of performance even if I am helping my team.
Is your cal scout a city squad sg scout. Or you running a Combat Rifle on the outside depending homepoint, or with the roaming squad going after enemy homepoint/ and switching onto Alpha point on the bridge. Cuz pretty much ever freakin map is bridge map lol.
PS4 psn = J0LLYxR0G3R
Underscore before and after the x
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J0LLY R0G3R
Legion Alpha Tester
826
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Posted - 2014.05.21 19:44:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Is he allowed?
I thought it was rated T for teen.
We could always give him a wii u controller and tell him he is playing with us? XD
PS4 psn = J0LLYxR0G3R
Underscore before and after the x
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3163
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Posted - 2014.05.21 19:45:00 -
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Jaceon Pale-eye wrote:Llast 326 wrote:In other news I melee killed a Cal Heavy last nightGǪ with my Gal One Ion Pistol shot and he tried to hit me with his forge in CQC Then I got in close while he sprayed his SMG randomlyGǪ 4 melee hits later Were you charging for each strike, or did I do the right thing by just applying what damage i could uncharged on that heavy and focusing on avoiding his sidearm rather than trying to charge the knives as well? Just kinda feeling out where I need the most work as far as "getting good". I already know I need to work on my approach and probably increase profile dampening skill (peeps seem to turn around at just the last second when I'm creeping up on 'em a little too often for my tastes). 8.2m sp and so many skills I still need to train. The weekly bonus SP cap makes this game take longer to skill into a specialty than Eve, even. Actually I pistol whipped him with my Ion Pistol R3 style But when it comes to Knifing I find if I've got the charged hit in first it's a quick dice after that to take most suits down. But My Gal Spook has Ish NK and proficiency 3 so tanked heavies are just Ham to carve with that damage arc. My Minja has suit bonus Ish NK and prof 2, I can even carve down with the ZN if i run an Enh Damage mod (which I often do because I run dual Sidearms so more bang for the fitting cost) But I am crazy because it's Nova Knife/Flaylock.
What I did long ago to get practice with Knives was run no other weapon on my suitGǪ We had no cloaks and Tacnet gave you away anytime you were near an installation, it forced me to be patient, quick, and maneuver. I suggest playing around with your controller sensitivity as well, generally Higher is better for Knifing. I have mine at 80 if i remember right. Speed is your friend, run someone down and Raptor Leap towards your target. Charge when you get in the air, no slowdown and you get a hell of a hit if you nail em with both blades.
When carving up a fat piggy, dance and stay close, round their firing arc and keep tapping. When you have your NK skill and Minja up in level you will drop them very quickly.
What time are you usually on? I hit about 5 ish Eve time, we could put together a Knife squad (warning I rarely if ever run a mic, kids sleep pretty close to where I play.)
Anything J0lly, Moody, Mollerz, or Mustard says overrides any Knifing advice I give
KRRROOOOOOM
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Jaceon Pale-eye
DUST University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2014.05.21 19:54:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote: Charge when you get in the air, no slowdown Holy... I hadn't thought of that.
The damage value in the knives' attributes - is that with or without charge? Is there a resource/page somewhere that gives the info on damage difference with or without charge? For that matter, anyone know the uncharged damage of the Charge rifle (or is the 315 the uncharged damage as well?)
As for play time, I'm out of work right now so I get on at some pretty erratic times. Anywhere after 5pm EST (which I think is 21:00 Eve time), sometimes I'm on pretty late, like early morning Eve time up until downtime. If I should see you in that Scouts United channel, I'll definitely holla! When it's late night for me, my gf is sleeping a few feet away so I avoid the mic as well, but I use her bluetooth keyboard to communicate between matches. I run with TrueXeroz in D-UNI any chance I get, and he's never complained when I'm not verbally active but still managing to keep up with the squad so I guess I'm not too bad in that regard (you should hear that guy sometimes when he gets aggravated :p )
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
7570
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Posted - 2014.05.21 20:19:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Is he allowed?
I thought it was rated T for teen. We could always give him a wii u controller and tell him he is playing with us? XD
New [self proclaimed] CEO of Fatal Absolution
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3164
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Posted - 2014.05.21 20:20:00 -
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Jaceon Pale-eye wrote:Llast 326 wrote: Charge when you get in the air, no slowdown Holy... I hadn't thought of that. The damage value in the knives' attributes - is that with or without charge? Is there a resource/page somewhere that gives the info on damage difference with or without charge? For that matter, anyone know the uncharged damage of the Charge rifle (or is the 315 the uncharged damage as well?) As for play time, I'm out of work right now so I get on at some pretty erratic times. Anywhere after 5pm EST (which I think is 21:00 Eve time), sometimes I'm on pretty late, like early morning Eve time up until downtime. If I should see you in that Scouts United channel, I'll definitely holla! When it's late night for me, my gf is sleeping a few feet away so I avoid the mic as well, but I use her bluetooth keyboard to communicate between matches. I run with TrueXeroz in D-UNI any chance I get, and he's never complained when I'm not verbally active but still managing to keep up with the squad so I guess I'm not too bad in that regard (you should hear that guy sometimes when he gets aggravated :p ) Damge value of the Knives is single blade no charge, so if you connect with both blades it's double. Full Charge is at least double damage (I recall Mustard saying 2.3 or something like that) Both blades and a full charge with tricked out SP investment puts you around 1400 damage I believe. Worth noting that Nova Knives are pure damage with no reduction vs Shield or Armour and no Sentinel resistance applies to them.
I am not the number scout though (Haer or Appia probably have calculations or can do them in their heads for exactly what NK do for damage) I just know where to stick the pointy end
I'll keep an eye out for you in Scouts United as well. I am often on my Minja alt KelcGǪ which has turned into my main, but I have the channels on both accounts.
KRRROOOOOOM
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1701
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Posted - 2014.05.21 22:13:00 -
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Guys, apparently this kind of internet speed is possible.
What would you even need/use/want that kind of speed for?
Also, LIast I hereby challenge you to a duel *glove slap* A duel of 3 rounds, Round 1: Ion Pistols. Round 2: Plasma Cannons. Round 3: Flaylock Pistols.
I'll leave the time up to you.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3165
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Posted - 2014.05.21 22:20:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Guys, apparently this kind of internet speed is possible. What would you even need/use/want that kind of speed for? Also, LIast I hereby challenge you to a duel *glove slap* A duel of 3 rounds, Round 1: Ion Pistols. Round 2: Plasma Cannons. Round 3: Flaylock Pistols. I'll leave the time up to you.
Accepted
I will get back to you with times
KRRROOOOOOM
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1151
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Posted - 2014.05.21 23:35:00 -
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Jaceon Pale-eye wrote:Brokerib wrote:Minja bonus will add to your knife damage too, so it's a good start if you can get knives to advanced as well, the standard knives are trash. Just curious, do you find yourself using the shotgun or the knives more for CQC? I've used the shotgun twice and decided it wasn't my thing, so 2/3 of my fits have a knife instead. Unless you're crazy good with it, the nova knife is very situational, but damn is it effective when you get the chance.
Detials on knife damage below.
Listed damage is per-blade, and you swing twice (once with each hand) per attack animation.
Charged damage is 2.5 on base damage, per knife.
So with no additional skills or mods.
Standard normal - 90 per knife/180 if both hit charged - 225 per knife/450 if both hit
Advanced normal - 150 per knife/300 if both hit charged - 375 per knife/750 if both hit
Proto normal - 200 per knife/400 if both hit charged - 500 per knife/1000 if both hit
Throw in the bonus from the Minmatar scout and the proficiency skill, you can hit over 1400 damage for a charged hit from both knives...
So with full skills you should be able to sink all scouts and mediums with a single charged shot, and heavies with a chraged shot plus a normal swing. Hit detection non-withstanding.
And just a word of advice, knifing ain't easy, so don't get discouraged. Target hackers and stationary targets to start with, and work your way up the food chain. Here's some basics tips from a friendly whiskey fuelled merc: Knifing 101
Knowledge is power
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1151
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Posted - 2014.05.21 23:37:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Guys, apparently this kind of internet speed is possible. What would you even need/use/want that kind of speed for? Streaming 4k internet TV to multiple devices simultaniously. While downloading enough **** to choak a donkey...
Knowledge is power
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3170
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Posted - 2014.05.22 00:28:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Jaceon Pale-eye wrote:Brokerib wrote:Minja bonus will add to your knife damage too, so it's a good start if you can get knives to advanced as well, the standard knives are trash. Just curious, do you find yourself using the shotgun or the knives more for CQC? I've used the shotgun twice and decided it wasn't my thing, so 2/3 of my fits have a knife instead. Unless you're crazy good with it, the nova knife is very situational, but damn is it effective when you get the chance. Detials on knife damage below. Listed damage is per-blade, and you swing twice (once with each hand) per attack animation. Charged damage is 2.5 on base damage, per knife. So with no additional skills or mods. Standard normal - 90 per knife/180 if both hit charged - 225 per knife/450 if both hit Advanced normal - 150 per knife/300 if both hit charged - 375 per knife/750 if both hit Proto normal - 200 per knife/400 if both hit charged - 500 per knife/1000 if both hit Throw in the bonus from the Minmatar scout and the proficiency skill, you can hit over 1400 damage for a charged hit from both knives... So with full skills you should be able to sink all scouts and mediums with a single charged shot, and heavies with a chraged shot plus a normal swing. Hit detection non-withstanding. And just a word of advice, knifing ain't easy, so don't get discouraged. Target hackers and stationary targets to start with, and work your way up the food chain. Here's some basics tips from a friendly whiskey fuelled merc: Knifing 101 Broker's stealth math Always a good source of info
KRRROOOOOOM
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
873
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Posted - 2014.05.22 03:02:00 -
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Didn't realize that this was possible.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3173
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Posted - 2014.05.22 05:37:00 -
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Bastards Have a look here Changes incoming, not directly to us but many things that will effect us
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