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Brokerib wrote:

Django Quik wrote:

Brokerib wrote:

Spademan wrote:

On the ScP, at first I had mixed feelings, I wasn't as dedicated as many others are, but I did run it pretty regularly.
But I don't think it was a bad move, it remains quite a good weapon and arguably still the best pistol.
Having said that, I do think the pistols in general could do with a bit of an improvement.

I used to run it regularly as a main, but with the changes and the heavy buff I now feel I'm being forced towards light weapons instead. Still a good weapon, but no longer a substitute for a CR/AR. I'm disapointed at any loss of diversity.

It is much tougher to take down heavies now but I just have to be more careful about who I engage and how I do it now. The ScP just about outranges any dangerous HMG fire these days; you just gotta be real careful on that gap closing even just a tiny bit.

The only time I'll engage a heavy with the ScP these days is if i have a good piece of cover between us to work around. So generally I'll be closer to 20m than 40 so they show on my more modest Minmatar scan range. Pretty much instant death if someone else turns up, but I'll win 4 out of 5 as long as my ammo holds out.

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noob cavman Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1355	Posted - 2014.04.25 21:32:00 - [13681] - Quote Master Smurf wrote: A sniper is usually an archetype of a scout or ranger class. Please dont limit combat from a role until this game has something other to do than that. How about a reduction of slots to force users to be less combat oriented Cal 3 /1 Am 1/3 Min 2/2 Gal 1/2 Nuuuuuuuu I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick. dem spandex yo
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 379	Posted - 2014.04.25 21:37:00 - [13682] - Quote wasnt serious Lets see the balanced assaults first. Many players will most likely switch back to them "Shine bright like a diamond"
noob cavman Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1355	Posted - 2014.04.25 21:40:00 - [13683] - Quote Master Smurf wrote: wasnt serious Lets see the balanced assaults first. Many players will most likely switch back to them I knew that..... (>_>) Just one more level for my mim assault ( fun as hell that suit) just needs some tweakig on it to make it more competitive I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick. dem spandex yo
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 1062	Posted - 2014.04.25 23:40:00 - [13684] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Brokerib wrote: Spademan wrote: On the ScP, at first I had mixed feelings, I wasn't as dedicated as many others are, but I did run it pretty regularly. But I don't think it was a bad move, it remains quite a good weapon and arguably still the best pistol. Having said that, I do think the pistols in general could do with a bit of an improvement. I used to run it regularly as a main, but with the changes and the heavy buff I now feel I'm being forced towards light weapons instead. Still a good weapon, but no longer a substitute for a CR/AR. I'm disapointed at any loss of diversity. It is much tougher to take down heavies now but I just have to be more careful about who I engage and how I do it now. The ScP just about outranges any dangerous HMG fire these days; you just gotta be real careful on that gap closing even just a tiny bit. The only time I'll engage a heavy with the ScP these days is if i have a good piece of cover between us to work around. So generally I'll be closer to 20m than 40 so they show on my more modest Minmatar scan range. Pretty much instant death if someone else turns up, but I'll win 4 out of 5 as long as my ammo holds out. Knowledge is power
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2955	Posted - 2014.04.26 00:29:00 - [13685] - Quote Brokerib wrote: Django Quik wrote: Brokerib wrote: Spademan wrote: On the ScP, at first I had mixed feelings, I wasn't as dedicated as many others are, but I did run it pretty regularly. But I don't think it was a bad move, it remains quite a good weapon and arguably still the best pistol. Having said that, I do think the pistols in general could do with a bit of an improvement. I used to run it regularly as a main, but with the changes and the heavy buff I now feel I'm being forced towards light weapons instead. Still a good weapon, but no longer a substitute for a CR/AR. I'm disapointed at any loss of diversity. It is much tougher to take down heavies now but I just have to be more careful about who I engage and how I do it now. The ScP just about outranges any dangerous HMG fire these days; you just gotta be real careful on that gap closing even just a tiny bit. The only time I'll engage a heavy with the ScP these days is if i have a good piece of cover between us to work around. So generally I'll be closer to 20m than 40 so they show on my more modest Minmatar scan range. Pretty much instant death if someone else turns up, but I'll win 4 out of 5 as long as my ammo holds out. Still I find the best way to take out the Honey Glazed Suits is with my Knives ScP still works, but as you say it is a very tactical situation. KRRROOOOOOM
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1769	Posted - 2014.04.26 01:48:00 - [13686] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Completley unrelated: But you guys need to watch this. They got a medical professional to watch Home Alone 1 and 2 and to keep tally of how many times the Wet Bandits would have died from injuries sustained by Demon Kid Kevin. I haven't laughed that hard in AGES LOL!! Dude, that was awesome! Double posting like a Kaiser.
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 1327	Posted - 2014.04.26 05:56:00 - [13687] - Quote Master Smurf wrote: A sniper is usually an archetype of a scout or ranger class. Please dont limit combat from a role until this game has something other to do than that. How about a reduction of slots to force users to be less combat oriented Cal 3 /1 Am 1/3 Min 2/2 Gal 1/2 reducing slots, also reduces ewar capability. so, no. better "keep scout fully scouting" approach would be to limit use of armor. Insane approach: NO armor mods Somewhat more reasonable: only gets 1/2 rated armor of armor module. rep modules not affected. ORRRR.. can only fit ferroscale or reactive plates. not regular plates. oh, and ps: I want a kincat fitting reduction too :-p
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 1062	Posted - 2014.04.26 07:07:00 - [13688] - Quote And in other news, got my first melee kill for 1.8 last night. After dropping off four uplinks in a pub ambush and losing my starter clone taking out a couple of reds defending the point, swapped to a triple damage mod sniper scout fit to try and keep the objective clear. Managed to blunt a couple of attacks and rackup a few head shots and assists, which apparently annoyed some of the reds enough for them to come hunting. I'd been changing positions every few shots to stay ahead of them, but eventually stuck around too long. Don't know if he paused for some reason, or if I just checked my mini-map at the right time, but saw a red arrow pointed directly at me from about 25m back. Jumped to the side and spun to try and get out of the line of fire and hit swap weapon to bring out my scrambler pistol while taking fire. As per usual, my controller glitched instead and brought up the deploy vehicle screen... So struggled with the controlled to get back into the action and swap out my weapons, and eventually start laying shots into him. We both ended up on a slither of health and out of ammo at the same time, so while he went for the reload on his AR I went for the punch to the face instead, and managed to drop him. Then ran off merilly into the sunset to continue sniping out the rest of the match. Ended up going 11/4/1 (which are excellent stats for me, I'm not much of a killer), along with 1700 WP for the uplinks. Checked at the end of the match and he was one of a full squad of Dust Uni players in the match, so I expect he was one of their trainees. So hopefully he learnt a valuable lesson Loving the changes to both the Minimatar scout melee damage, and the increased scan radius! Knowledge is power
mollerz 3338	Posted - 2014.04.26 07:31:00 - [13689] - Quote Master Smurf wrote: A sniper is usually an archetype of a scout or ranger class. Please dont limit combat from a role until this game has something other to do than that. How about a reduction of slots to force users to be less combat oriented Cal 3 /1 Am 1/3 Min 2/2 Gal 1/2 Actually.. and I might just be tripping for a second.. that might be one of the best ideas pitched here. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 733	Posted - 2014.04.26 07:43:00 - [13690] - Quote Any advice for someone running knives on a non-Minmatar suit? More specifically Amarr? Because the suit has such a crappy base walk speed I generally can't get people without doing a jump-charge. I already have been running two KinCats and it helps a lot. TDBS My * points to her interface{} if you know what I mean

mollerz 3338	Posted - 2014.04.26 07:51:00 - [13691] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Any advice for someone running knives on a non-Minmatar suit? More specifically Amarr? Because the suit has such a crappy base walk speed I generally can't get people without doing a jump-charge. I already have been running two KinCats and it helps a lot. Since I'm here.. You can knife, but you just have to relegate yourself to being an opportunity knifer. not a CQC knifer. Them's the breaks for those amar pussies. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 735	Posted - 2014.04.26 08:13:00 - [13692] - Quote mollerz wrote: Since I'm here.. You can knife, but you just have to relegate yourself to being an opportunity knifer. not a CQC knifer. Them's the breaks for those amar pussies. Yeah that's what I've been starting to get. Can't really run them as a primary and rely on my other weapon as backup. However it does fit nice with an ACR or AScR. Thanks though! TDBS My * points to her interface{} if you know what I mean
mollerz 3342	Posted - 2014.04.26 08:20:00 - [13693] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: mollerz wrote: Since I'm here.. You can knife, but you just have to relegate yourself to being an opportunity knifer. not a CQC knifer. Them's the breaks for those amar pussies. Yeah that's what I've been starting to get. Can't really run them as a primary and rely on my other weapon as backup. However it does fit nice with an ACR or AScR. Thanks though! Minja LW slot = Ishnoks. Kill with joy everywhere. Amarr SA slot = Ishnoks. Kill heavies in the middle of hacking something. #nutshell You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
mollerz 3342	Posted - 2014.04.26 08:39:00 - [13694] - Quote DPLAK! For those of you who like US shameless... I'm a Chitowner so I can't help but like the show. Lookin forward to seeing them live You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1412	Posted - 2014.04.26 10:10:00 - [13695] - Quote Brokerib wrote: Checked at the end of the match and he was one of a full squad of Dust Uni players in the match, so I expect he was one of their trainees. So hopefully he learnt a valuable lesson I do always like going up against D-Uni, they always tend to be more of a back and forth match rather than a stomp, feels like if I (or anyone on my team) start backing down at any moment then they'll get the upper hand. Or if I push hard enough we can make a break. Really, I just want more battles like that, where every inch feels like it was fought hard for. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 1066	Posted - 2014.04.26 10:54:00 - [13696] - Quote [ Iquote=Spademan] Brokerib wrote: Checked at the end of the match and he was one of a full squad of Dust Uni players in the match, so I expect he was one of their trainees. So hopefully he learnt a valuable lesson I do always like going up against D-Uni, they always tend to be more of a back and forth match rather than a stomp, feels like if I (or anyone on my team) start backing down at any moment then they'll get the upper hand. Or if I push hard enough we can make a break. Really, I just want more battles like that, where every inch feels like it was fought hard for.[/quote] Definitely. They won the match by three ticks while we held the installation due to MCC fire. Was a really good match, and they had a heavy I could not take down, who topped their leaderboard. I spent the last 5 minutes of the match paying cat and mouse with him to keep him off the objective, because i new i couldn't kill him. Really good fun. Knowledge is power
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5989	Posted - 2014.04.26 13:21:00 - [13697] - Quote Silent in here lately. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1412	Posted - 2014.04.26 13:27:00 - [13698] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Silent in here lately. Not much has been happening, hopefully after Fanfest there'll be more to talk about. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1352	Posted - 2014.04.26 13:33:00 - [13699] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Silent in here lately. Too many brick tanked fake scouts... *Assassination is my thing.*
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1770	Posted - 2014.04.26 14:55:00 - [13700] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Loving the "Make Pistols Better" thread atm. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2085980#post2085980 This guy is crying because he can't spam ScP bodyshots anymore and still get kills. Claims you shouldn't need to get headshots with the speciality headshot weapon. Compares fittings costs of proto pistols with standard ScR. Nearly fell out of my seat laughing (figuratively, of course - only the barbershop on these forums could actually make me laugh out loud). I had to chime in on this one... even after the ScP nerf all my fits except one have an ScP as the main weapon. It's still surprisingly good, and I don't even go with the Assault versions for better range, ROF and rounds in the mag.... plus, even if I only get 3 kills a match, I really loving seeing "Matticus Monk (Militia scrambler pistol) chump". I'm glad we don't have as many pistoleers these days. Now that scouts are FOTM, it's easier to recognize the masochists on the field... it's usually those scouts that are like: "Time to fight! Where is my ScP? Where is my knife? Where is my Flaylock?" Double posting like a Kaiser.

Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 1328	Posted - 2014.04.26 15:20:00 - [13701] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: plus, even if I only get 3 kills a match, I really loving seeing "Matticus Monk (Militia scrambler pistol) chump". Was playing Heavy HMG the other day, and was fighting a pro grasshopper. I was prbably aready a bit low, but ran out of ammo. So then he's all Muahahaha... an I'm all Hey look at what I have in my back pocket, and whip out an ScP, blamblamblam +50WP Was good to get an ScP kill after so long
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1281	Posted - 2014.04.26 15:32:00 - [13702] - Quote I like sniping with my SCP. Get a decent range away from the action, with a escape route, pick off distracted reds. Unfortunately right now I can only get headshots with either luck or they're standing still. That headshot bonus though :D. Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
Yan Darn Science For Death 671	Posted - 2014.04.26 18:09:00 - [13703] - Quote So I just got complex Kin Cats. Is fittin just one ever worth it ? I prefer using my Valour BPO - and I always want a comp damp and comp extender on my suit. I mean, I've been trying just one and my overall performance is similar to using a plate in that slot - though it could just be psychological - maybe just I'm running away/flanking more? On the plus side, the ludicrous fitting cost has encouraged me to go ScP/SMG again. I think all the ROF nerf has done is encouraged me to go for headshots more. I thought I should be using shotguns, but the hit detection...I can't take that crap anymore. Getting the drop with an ScP and landing a few headshots seems just an effective of use of such flanking opportunities. The question is whether to go Breach or Assault... The Ghost of Bravo
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 387	Posted - 2014.04.26 18:46:00 - [13704] - Quote @ Mollerz - I couldnt seriously get behind taking away two module slots after we just fought to get the increase. If Assaults get another slot (doubt it) there is no reason for us to change and if they stay at 7 then we could possibly go back down to 5. There are other ways to "nerf" us too - Cloak changes, armor plate changes (fitting costs and increase of speed penalty), removal of some of our range bonus and cal - gal range bonus (giving them a different one) etc. All that stuff could make us fit out like really weak assaults or scouts with paper thin hp And yes, discussion shifted again - its not just pre-fanfest, the game is very stale for anyone that has a significant amount of SP. Content is limited, even though we have a fair amount of weapons map design and balance dictate using very few. FW has deteriorated because games can take long to queue and no orbitals occur because EVE players arent interested and the only thing Dust players see is x planet in y% controlled space. All Mercs look alike All modes are basically the same Levelling some skills dont make any in-game difference FanFest is going to have to show some real game changing things or the next update will come out, we will flock to it for a week or so and then it will be nerf buff and off topic, rinse repeat. "Shine bright like a diamond"
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 1070	Posted - 2014.04.26 22:58:00 - [13705] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: So I just got complex Kin Cats. Is fittin just one ever worth it ? I prefer using my Valour BPO - and I always want a comp damp and comp extender on my suit. I mean, I've been trying just one and my overall performance is similar to using a plate in that slot - though it could just be psychological - maybe just I'm running away/flanking more? On the plus side, the ludicrous fitting cost has encouraged me to go ScP/SMG again. I think all the ROF nerf has done is encouraged me to go for headshots more. I thought I should be using shotguns, but the hit detection...I can't take that crap anymore. Getting the drop with an ScP and landing a few headshots seems just an effective of use of such flanking opportunities. The question is whether to go Breach or Assault... I only ever fit one, and I find it mildly useful. But I'm mainly running them on my uplink and hacking fits so it's for distance/speed not attack, and I only ever run advanced suits so I only have two lows in any case. EWAR is far more important this build so I almost always have a damp in the other low. Knowledge is power
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 6004	Posted - 2014.04.27 18:53:00 - [13706] - Quote I swear moody is the anti Sinboto, if he's in a match I do bad, he can be on the enemy team, my team, or in my SQUAD, if he's there I'm gonna do horrible. (Yes I'm joking, I've not been playing dust much lately and I'm rusty as a scout) (but it sure seems that way........) Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2963	Posted - 2014.04.27 19:05:00 - [13707] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I swear moody is the anti Sinboto, if he's in a match I do bad, he can be on the enemy team, my team, or in my SQUAD, if he's there I'm gonna do horrible. (Yes I'm joking, I've not been playing dust much lately and I'm rusty as a scout) (but it sure seems that way........) Went into an in progress Dom match last nightGÇª Okay fairly even on MCC I can do this Killfeed wrote: Moody (owned) Some Poor Bastard Mustard (owned) Some Other Poor Bastard Well clone count went down in a hurry Then i encountered MoodyGÇª I think oh NK fight ScR rifle in my face Later I have taken some CRUs and made some impact (meaning making it easier for my team to walk into the Deathtrap that was M&M) I have a Sniper Rifle and am trying to hold back to clear the road of Reds trying to take the letter, but so many damn HAVs that getting in close is suicide. Spotted by a Mustard Quote: Remain Calm Watch him Cloak up to me Don't lose sight of him or you are dead Just managed to ScP him Other than that I did terrible that match I know what you mean KRRROOOOOOM
J0LLY R0G3R Dirt Nap Squad. 774	Posted - 2014.04.27 19:20:00 - [13708] - Quote Writes some jibberish.....lalala Surprise Plasma Cannon vid XD YouTube Twitch
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2963	Posted - 2014.04.27 19:26:00 - [13709] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: Writes some jibberish.....lalala Surprise Plasma Cannon vid XD + Flaylock fun Nice KRRROOOOOOM
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3740	Posted - 2014.04.28 01:07:00 - [13710] - Quote Beep Bloop The police will never find me Scout



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