... when will 1.4 patch notes come out? The answer is tomorrow around DT.

We know the scouts need some love. We did not give them any in 1.4. Sorry about that but there's always more work than time. We are planning to give them hugs in 1.5/6. I can't be specific regarding time yet because there are some new features involved and we're not sure exactly where they will land yet.

I just realized when I checked my character sheet, I have exactly 6666 kills. \o/

The demons shall help me strike down my opponents!

I just realized when I checked my character sheet, I have exactly 6666 kills. \o/

The demons shall help me strike down my opponents!

Just added the above "Health Metrics" in preparation for 1.4. We're now better equipped to track Scout performance at all experience levels in our primary combat roles (snipers and non-snipers). We'll know within days what affect 1.4's mechanical changes has had on the Community.

I run my scout suit nine times out of ten, usually as a sniper. I have no clue where my kill number is right now, but It's my second week playing so I doubt it's over 500 since I can only play an hour or so a day this month. Hopefully I will one day earn a place amongst you. I am cautiously optimistic about the "Scout love" coming in 1.5/.6.

Have you given any thought to tracking WP as well? For a lot of scouts its much more relevant than kills and KDR. I'd really be curious to track WP/death in particular.

I think early on you said it would maybe be too much work, but I'd guess you'd be able to get lots of help now that the scout community has become much more organized (thanks in large part to you). I'd be glad to volunteer some time and excel skills.

Hi Kanders,

Good idea, but I'm not sure how we'd track WP/Death, as Deaths aren't listed in the Leaderboards. You can estimate Deaths via KDR, but the estimates would be widely off-target for folks with lots of kills. As for ranking Scouts by WP, this is absolutely possible.

Would you like to create a new thread for a Warpoint Leaderboard?

You'll need 3 in-game characters, as Leaderboards get screwy somewhere around 70 contacts. I'd be glad to email you current list of Scout Names, and keep you looped in to additions and subtractions going forward. If you're up to it, shoot me your email address in-game and we'll get started.

- Shotty

Welcome to New Eden, Brother. Thanks for checking in us; I'll add you to the Registry on next update.

Join in-game channel "Scouts United" and squad up with Scout Sniper vets for loadout tips and tactical training.
Let me know if you have trouble locating a mentor, we're here to help. o7

- Shotty

I feel your pain, brother. Our disadvantage is magnified in PC. We're weeks away from 1.4. Let's see what the Devs have in store for us.

Shared Squad Sight, Disabled.

http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/08/uprising-1.4-and-beyond

More sneaking, more escaping, more vanishing into the shadows.

That's going to make overwatch a little less passively productive, but I should talk and move more anyway.

Shared Squad Sight, Disabled.

http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/08/uprising-1.4-and-beyond

More sneaking, more escaping, more vanishing into the shadows.

Shotty, Yes I am in fact a Sniper Scout.

I normally do not post on here. This is due to the fact that I have not experienced the decline in performance on the battlefield most of you have. All of that changed in the last two day after running my first PC battles.

I only had 2 kills in 4 PC battles. My observations are as follows:

It's not hat we are not fast enough. The problem is the other suits are too fast. It is extremely hard to line up a shot from a sniper rifle and hit your target. Not to mention you have to hit your target at least three times in order to get a kill. I consider myself to be pretty good shot, but my performance was ridiculous.

We all know our suit needs help. Unfortunately, for us to be better at what we do, other suits need to be taken down a notch. I am of the opinion that this will not happen. There are too many non-scouts that would raise absolute hell if their suits get an adjustment in order to help us out.

I will always be a Scout. Unfortunately, I will probably not get to experience PC like I do in the pubs. So, they only thing I can do for my corp is win ISK in the pubs and donate back to my corp for use in PC. This is not what I want my role to be. I do not have to have 15 Kills per match to be an effective team member. However, a .33 KDR does no one any good and is useless.

So, I will sit and wait for things to change. Hopefully for the good and maybe someone will let me play in PC to gain more experience no matter how worthless I will be to their team.

Keep your head down,
Kodho

Shotty, Yes I am in fact a Sniper Scout.

I normally do not post on here. This is due to the fact that I have not experienced the decline in performance on the battlefield most of you have. All of that changed in the last two day after running my first PC battles.

I only had 2 kills in 4 PC battles. My observations are as follows:

It's not hat we are not fast enough. The problem is the other suits are too fast. It is extremely hard to line up a shot from a sniper rifle and hit your target. Not to mention you have to hit your target at least three times in order to get a kill. I consider myself to be pretty good shot, but my performance was ridiculous.

We all know our suit needs help. Unfortunately, for us to be better at what we do, other suits need to be taken down a notch. I am of the opinion that this will not happen. There are too many non-scouts that would raise absolute hell if their suits get an adjustment in order to help us out.

I will always be a Scout. Unfortunately, I will probably not get to experience PC like I do in the pubs. So, they only thing I can do for my corp is win ISK in the pubs and donate back to my corp for use in PC. This is not what I want my role to be. I do not have to have 15 Kills per match to be an effective team member. However, a .33 KDR does no one any good and is useless.

So, I will sit and wait for things to change. Hopefully for the good and maybe someone will let me play in PC to gain more experience no matter how worthless I will be to their team.

Keep your head down,
Kodho

Shared Squad Sight, Disabled.

http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/08/uprising-1.4-and-beyond

More sneaking, more escaping, more vanishing into the shadows.

Hey Kodho!

Thanks for following up. There's not a whole lot we Scouts can do combat-wise in PC at the moment. Several of our more experienced guys run other frames in PC. I routinely go triple negative and should probably do the same.

But as a Sniper, you offer huge advantage to your team, especially in Defend battles. I rang in support of an Indie attacking TeamPlayers last night. I was OHK'd four or five times by a redline Thales. The Sniper went 30/0, and we would've won if not for being cloned out as result of his efforts.

All that to say, you certainly aren't worthless in your role as a Sniper.

- Shotty

Here I thought red-line sniping was only a public match thing. I would have enjoyed being in that PC battle. I frequently go on red-line sniper hunts. may only get a few kills in a match but it really helps the team.

Shared Squad Sight, Disabled.

http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/08/uprising-1.4-and-beyond

More sneaking, more escaping, more vanishing into the shadows.

Hiya Scouts!
I'm assembling a framework for better trend tracking for 1.4, and I need your input. In summary, if you're a Scout Sniper you'll be grouped in a chart with other Scout Snipers. The Killboard won't be affected at all, this is simply an attempt to make better sense when analyzing everyone's statistics and measuring how mechanical changes affect different roles.

That said, I have huge respect for you guys. Dang near every sniper in the game runs 2-3x your HP in a medium frame and still has room to stack damage amplifiers. You have mastered the art of being unseen.

I've picked through our thread and analyzed performance patterns to produce the following list. Please let me know if I included or excluded you in error:

Scout Snipers (alphabetically)
Admonishment
Decasor
JieXi Bao
Jugger Nuttz
Keeriam Miray
Kodho
Samantha Hunyz
Tyjus Vacca
voidfaction

Thanks a bunch, guys. As always, let me know if you have any questions.

- Shotty

I don't believe I have ever touched a sniper rifle.