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Haerr
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
333
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:23:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:One Eyed King wrote:I swear, sometimes I think I need a Phd in CCPology just to figure out how to play this game and fit my character.  I find the stuff intuitive  I think this may mean I have a problem.
Apart from Dust putting the stacking penalty on the "wrong" module I've found it quite straightforward. I really do hope that they've fixed that stupid bug, I mean really, it was reported such a long time agoGǪ
(Bug report: LINK EDIT: It's the "[BUG] Ferroscale speed bonus?" one.)
(Confirmed to affect scanning modules: LINK )
Scanning Table for 1.8: LINK
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1614
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:29:00 -
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Haerr wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:One Eyed King wrote:I swear, sometimes I think I need a Phd in CCPology just to figure out how to play this game and fit my character. I find the stuff intuitive I think this may mean I have a problem. Apart from Dust putting the stacking penalty on the "wrong" module I've found it quite straightforward. I really do hope that they've fixed that stupid bug, I mean really, it was reported such a long time agoGǪ (Bug report: LINK EDIT: It's the "[BUG] Ferroscale speed bonus?" one.) (Confirmed to affect scanning modules: LINK )
Yep, it is indeed fixed.
Drop it like its hat.
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Sergent Gumball
Terrestrial Suppression Force
Lokun Listamenn
5
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:32:00 -
[11043] - Quote
Don't forget to add Sergent Gumball!! As of 1.8 I will be getting rid of my Cal Logi and cashing in as dedicated Cal Scout! Scouts ftw!
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1614
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:33:00 -
[11044] - Quote
Anyone got some fittings for a cal scout?
Drop it like its hat.
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Haerr
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
333
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:35:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Haerr wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:One Eyed King wrote:I swear, sometimes I think I need a Phd in CCPology just to figure out how to play this game and fit my character. I find the stuff intuitive I think this may mean I have a problem. Apart from Dust putting the stacking penalty on the "wrong" module I've found it quite straightforward. I really do hope that they've fixed that stupid bug, I mean really, it was reported such a long time agoGǪ (Bug report: LINK EDIT: It's the "[BUG] Ferroscale speed bonus?" one.) (Confirmed to affect scanning modules: LINK ) Yep, it is indeed fixed.
Is it just the Ferroscales that have been fxied or did they fix the way stacking penalties are calculated?
(Hmm I'll run the test with 2 complex armor plates and then 1 basic plate instead of ferroscale, give me a sec...)
Scanning Table for 1.8: LINK
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1614
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Posted - 2014.03.11 11:39:00 -
[11046] - Quote
Haerr wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Haerr wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:One Eyed King wrote:I swear, sometimes I think I need a Phd in CCPology just to figure out how to play this game and fit my character. I find the stuff intuitive I think this may mean I have a problem. Apart from Dust putting the stacking penalty on the "wrong" module I've found it quite straightforward. I really do hope that they've fixed that stupid bug, I mean really, it was reported such a long time agoGǪ (Bug report: LINK EDIT: It's the "[BUG] Ferroscale speed bonus?" one.) (Confirmed to affect scanning modules: LINK ) Yep, it is indeed fixed. Is it just the Ferroscales that have been fxied or did they fix the way stacking penalties are calculated? (Hmm I'll run the test with 2 complex armor plates and then 1 basic plate instead of ferroscale, give me a sec...)
It was a problem because the bonus is -x% in movement speed, and that penalty was ordered largest to smallest, i.e. the smallest penalty got the biggest stacking penalty when using several mods. You could offset a complex plate with 2 basic pretty much. Or a two basic reactive plates and a complex plate.
CCP dont know how to write code right from the beginning.
It is now fixed though.
Drop it like its hat.
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Haerr
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
333
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:07:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Haerr wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Haerr wrote:-snip- Apart from Dust putting the stacking penalty on the "wrong" module I've found it quite straightforward. I really do hope that they've fixed that stupid bug, I mean really, it was reported such a long time agoGǪ (Bug report: LINK EDIT: It's the "[BUG] Ferroscale speed bonus?" one.) (Confirmed to affect scanning modules: LINK ) Yep, it is indeed fixed. Is it just the Ferroscales that have been fxied or did they fix the way stacking penalties are calculated? (Hmm I'll run the test with 2 complex armor plates and then 1 basic plate instead of ferroscale, give me a sec...) - No plates: 5.45 m/s
- 1 Complex plate: 5.18 m/s
- 2 Complex plates: 4.92 m/s lol
The movement speed reduction from plates doesn't have stacking penalties anymore... Damn it I'll have to do a proper test using scanners and stuff to see if they've removed stacking penalties from the scanning modules as well. It was a problem because the bonus is -x% in movement speed, and that penalty was ordered largest to smallest, i.e. the smallest penalty got the biggest stacking penalty when using several mods. You could offset a complex plate with 2 basic pretty much. Or a two basic reactive plates and a complex plate. CCP dont know how to write code right from the beginning. It is now fixed though.
Not exactly; sadly they just set the armor plates to not have a stacking penalty. Crap if they did the same on the scanning modules the table I made is just plain wrong. I'll try to ask someone on the IRC, I really don't feel like testing **** out again. Why can't they just put this stuff in the patch notes?
Scanning Table for 1.8: LINK
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1615
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:11:00 -
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What, are you sure?
I really thought there was a stacking penalty on the plates movement speed reduction.
It is really ret*rded if they fixed this by removing the stacking penalty on the plates instead of flipping the sign.
Drop it like its hat.
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Haerr
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
333
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Posted - 2014.03.11 12:16:00 -
[11049] - Quote
Spectral Clone wrote:What, are you sure?
I really thought there was a stacking penalty on the plates movement speed reduction.
There used to be.
I have no idea of when they removed it.
Scanning Table for 1.8: LINK
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Musta Tornius
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1145
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:31:00 -
[11050] - Quote
Haerr wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:What, are you sure?
I really thought there was a stacking penalty on the plates movement speed reduction. There used to be. I have no idea of when they removed it.
Uprising 1.7
DUST514 Weapon Range & Information
Team Fairy DUST
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1615
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:40:00 -
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The explanation is this Haerr
For complex plates:
Final movement penalty = 0.95^n
where n is amount of plates
1 plate is -5%
2 plates 0.95^2 = 0.9025 which is -9.75%
3 plates 0.95^3 = 0.8574 which is -14.26%
I guess its just a coincidence that when the stacking penalty 5% is becomes almost the same as -n*5%
Drop it like its hat.
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Haerr
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
333
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Posted - 2014.03.11 13:52:00 -
[11052] - Quote
Musta Tornius wrote:Haerr wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:What, are you sure?
I really thought there was a stacking penalty on the plates movement speed reduction. There used to be. I have no idea of when they removed it. Uprising 1.7
Thanks man!
Oh and according to the SDE (just like Musta mentioned to me) the profile dampeners still have stacking penalties, which only leaves the question about if CCP has fixed the stacking order for modules with -% or not. :)
Scanning Table for 1.8: LINK
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2343
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Posted - 2014.03.11 14:22:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Anyone got some fittings for a cal scout?
I've got some ideas, but i prefer not to share them until i know how they behave a bit.
Essentially they revolve around how TTK plays out. But because higher TTK has less impact on scouts, not so sure how they will work.
Though I am fairly certain Cal will make and excellent SG scout
KRRROOOOOOM
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
2362
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Posted - 2014.03.11 14:35:00 -
[11054] - Quote
Sergent Gumball wrote:Don't forget to add Sergent Gumball!! As of 1.8 I will be getting rid of my Cal Logi and cashing in as dedicated Cal Scout! Scouts ftw!
No one is added to the registry any more - it's been closed for months. If all you want is recognition for being a scout in the future, you're in the wrong place; if you want to become an actual member of the community, please feel free to contribute to our discussions here.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2345
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Posted - 2014.03.11 14:45:00 -
[11055] - Quote
Bayeth Mal wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Umm The links They are blank fittings  Wondering about your Scrambler fit though I have a theoretical oneGǪ curious how it compares to your OPness (and a side note don't say OPness out loud) "How big is your OPness?" "34 mil SP, and yours?"  "Uh.... I uh.... Yeah about the same... That... That's isn't normal though... right?" "I know you only have 6 mil. Appia told me. Its ok bro, that's pretty normal..." "Oh... Good then I guess" "I mean, its not quite average but it's pretty close." "Yeah... WAIT! WHAT?"
Why is Appia looking at peoples OPness?
KRRROOOOOOM
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
892
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Posted - 2014.03.11 15:58:00 -
[11056] - Quote
I feel the word "OPness" needs to stop being used
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
1379
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Posted - 2014.03.11 16:02:00 -
[11057] - Quote
@ Nyra: hello brother scout!
@ Appia: I don't mind that Nyra posts every so often to say hi. It's his thing and it's cool. We all have our personalities here.... Ghost double posts, Llast embraces the death, you and Hearr are numerical specialists, Shotty is the gentleman's bastard, Spade is our timelord, Magnus is the viking, and (where is he now?) Surt was our multiple personality entertainment, Moody our cameraman.... (oh yeah, Patrick is the mascot? ) let the colorful personalities continue to find a home in the barbershop, I say! 
I only jumped on for one game yesterday but Mollerz and The Ugly were helping our team look good and win a close match. I was soloing.... Ninja Troll was on the other team and got a good kill on me with a shotgun as I was hacking a CRU. I KNEW I should have taken a closer recon on the rest of that installation! Good kill, bro! 
Double posting like a Kaiser.
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Driftoward
Nos Nothi
166
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Posted - 2014.03.11 16:26:00 -
[11058] - Quote
Matticus Monk wrote:@ @ Appia: I don't mind that Nyra posts every so often to say hi. It's his thing and it's cool. We all have our personalities here.... Ghost double posts, Llast embraces the death, you and Hearr are numerical specialists, Shotty is the gentleman's bastard, Spade is our timelord, Magnus is the viking, and (where is he now?) Surt was our multiple personality entertainment, Moody our cameraman.... (oh yeah, Patrick is the mascot? ) let the colorful personalities continue to find a home in the barbershop, I say!
And Driftward is the itinerant hobo who pops in once a week to make some kind of random rant and crazy math argument.  There's just enough sense in the crazy talk to see that there once was a coherent person in his past....
Driftward alt. Its a secret, shhhh....
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2347
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Posted - 2014.03.11 16:39:00 -
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Spademan wrote:I feel the word "OPness" needs to stop being used
I agree, just one last one to get it out of my system
Do you think scouts have suffered from OPness envy, do to our UPness for so long?
And I'm done
Had a freeze last night that actually left me with an impressive looking shot
The two needle wielders were so busy scrambling for the revive they did not see me flank them.
The revived lad is obscured by the muzzle flash but has 97hp back
It had potential to be epic
Quote: I am ging to get two maybe three Flaylock kills in the feed
Freeze
KRRROOOOOOM
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Appia Nappia
Nos Nothi
338
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Posted - 2014.03.11 17:42:00 -
[11060] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Anyone got some fittings for a cal scout? I've got some ideas, but i prefer not to share them until i know how they behave a bit. Essentially they revolve around how TTK plays out. But because higher TTK has less impact on scouts, not so sure how they will work. Though I am fairly certain Cal will make and excellent SG scout
I'm not so sure. I'm definitely committing to Caldari Scout. The Million Clone event, if successful will net me 2.4 million SP with an active omega booster without passive. plus my 800k I have in reserve right now that is for cloak. I'll have my 3.7M SP for the 24th to get the proto cloak and protocal-scout day 1. As the patch notes come out a week before the patch, and they didn't come out this week. I'll be trying it out, but I think it's going to be my flanking suit for those new maps with waaaaaay too much open ground and the gal-scout my city map scout.
Secretly Appia Vibbia
If you can read my signature... I'm on the wrong alt.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2353
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Posted - 2014.03.11 18:33:00 -
[11061] - Quote
Appia Nappia wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Anyone got some fittings for a cal scout? I've got some ideas, but i prefer not to share them until i know how they behave a bit. Essentially they revolve around how TTK plays out. But because higher TTK has less impact on scouts, not so sure how they will work. Though I am fairly certain Cal will make and excellent SG scout I'm not so sure. I'm definitely committing to Caldari Scout. The Million Clone event, if successful will net me 2.4 million SP with an active omega booster without passive. plus my 800k I have in reserve right now that is for cloak. I'll have my 3.7M SP for the 24th to get the proto cloak and protocal-scout day 1. As the patch notes come out a week before the patch, and they didn't come out this week. I'll be trying it out, but I think it's going to be my flanking suit for those new maps with waaaaaay too much open ground and the gal-scout my city map scout.
Med/Long range flanking will be pretty fine with the Cal
Greatest assets to my SG experience is radar, movement. Since these aspects are equal on the Spook and the Cal i figure it will work well, especially with the added benefit of "seeing" a lot of the other scouts. though it really depends on a few things, like the state of shields n 1.8
KRRROOOOOOM
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3337
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Posted - 2014.03.11 18:43:00 -
[11062] - Quote
Matticus Monk wrote:@ Nyra: hello brother scout! @ Appia: I don't mind that Nyra posts every so often to say hi. It's his thing and it's cool. We all have our personalities here.... Ghost double posts, Llast embraces the death, you and Hearr are numerical specialists, Shotty is the gentleman's bastard, Spade is our timelord, Magnus is the viking, and (where is he now?) Surt was our multiple personality entertainment, Moody our cameraman.... (oh yeah, Patrick is the mascot? ) let the colorful personalities continue to find a home in the barbershop, I say! I only jumped on for one game yesterday but Mollerz and The Ugly were helping our team look good and win a close match. I was soloing.... Ninja Troll was on the other team and got a good kill on me with a shotgun as I was hacking a CRU. I KNEW I should have taken a closer recon on the rest of that installation! Good kill, bro!
I think my record is four in a row actually
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
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Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1422
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Posted - 2014.03.11 18:48:00 -
[11063] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:Appia Nappia wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Anyone got some fittings for a cal scout? I've got some ideas, but i prefer not to share them until i know how they behave a bit. Essentially they revolve around how TTK plays out. But because higher TTK has less impact on scouts, not so sure how they will work. Though I am fairly certain Cal will make and excellent SG scout I'm not so sure. I'm definitely committing to Caldari Scout. The Million Clone event, if successful will net me 2.4 million SP with an active omega booster without passive. plus my 800k I have in reserve right now that is for cloak. I'll have my 3.7M SP for the 24th to get the proto cloak and protocal-scout day 1. As the patch notes come out a week before the patch, and they didn't come out this week. I'll be trying it out, but I think it's going to be my flanking suit for those new maps with waaaaaay too much open ground and the gal-scout my city map scout. Med/Long range flanking will be pretty fine with the Cal Greatest assets to my SG experience is radar, movement. Since these aspects are equal on the Spook and the Cal i figure it will work well, especially with the added benefit of "seeing" a lot of the other scouts. though it really depends on a few things, like the state of shields n 1.8
No change to shields in 1.8, via hearsay on IRC
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com (checked every Monday/Wednesday/Friday)
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2357
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Posted - 2014.03.11 19:34:00 -
[11064] - Quote
Appia Vibbia wrote:No change to shields in 1.8, via hearsay on IRC
No direct changes to shields. That's a shame, but not entirely unexpected.
I had hoped for a bit of adjustment on the lower tier shield extenders.
Though I still think that we will see an indirect change through TTK adjustment. Not that this is as beneficial to scouts as to the higher EHP crowd. Regeneration becomes a lot more valuable if you live long enough for it to kick in.
KRRROOOOOOM
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Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
203
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Posted - 2014.03.11 19:47:00 -
[11065] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:Had a freeze last night that actually left me with an impressive looking shot The two needle wielders were so busy scrambling for the revive they did not see me flank them. The revived lad is obscured by the muzzle flash but has 97hp back It had potential to be epic Quote: I am going to get two maybe three Flaylock kills in the feed Freeze
I've been throwing down REs on downed players I recognise where I know there's likey to be a needle in squad. Time it right and you get 50 x 2. Only works maybe 10% of the time.
Getting 50 x 3 would be brilliant. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
2358
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Posted - 2014.03.11 19:57:00 -
[11066] - Quote
Bayeth Mal wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Had a freeze last night that actually left me with an impressive looking shot The two needle wielders were so busy scrambling for the revive they did not see me flank them. The revived lad is obscured by the muzzle flash but has 97hp back It had potential to be epic Quote: I am going to get two maybe three Flaylock kills in the feed Freeze I've been throwing down REs on downed players I recognise where I know there's likey to be a needle in squad. Time it right and you get 50 x 2. Only works maybe 10% of the time. Getting 50 x 3 would be brilliant.
Been going that forever
See a Corp squad running Proto and it is a virtual guaranteed attempted pick up
Used to be that a certain corp (not going to name them) was great at teamwork
One pick up, one ready to repGǪ boom Three down 
KRRROOOOOOM
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Ghetto Troll
Nos Nothi
16
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Posted - 2014.03.11 20:37:00 -
[11067] - Quote
Matticus Monk wrote:@ Nyra: hello brother scout! @ Appia: I don't mind that Nyra posts every so often to say hi. It's his thing and it's cool. We all have our personalities here.... Ghost double posts, Llast embraces the death, you and Hearr are numerical specialists, Shotty is the gentleman's bastard, Spade is our timelord, Magnus is the viking, and (where is he now?) Surt was our multiple personality entertainment, Moody our cameraman.... (oh yeah, Patrick is the mascot? ) let the colorful personalities continue to find a home in the barbershop, I say! I only jumped on for one game yesterday but Mollerz and The Ugly were helping our team look good and win a close match. I was soloing.... Ninja Troll was on the other team and got a good kill on me with a shotgun as I was hacking a CRU. I KNEW I should have taken a closer recon on the rest of that installation! Good kill, bro!
Haha I feel bad when I kill hackers, except for the heavies.
I recall killing a heavy with an RE after you, despite still being in shock.
Then Mollerz got me with a damn CR. The next match I joined Mollerz squad.
Sunday night's match was fun. Hope we can get a full scout squad during the next event.
Ninja Troll is more ninja than troll
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icdedppul
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
97
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Posted - 2014.03.11 21:49:00 -
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so being bored I finally went and started looking at 1.8 fittings and I just noticed something
Min scouts are still screwed
we get 1 or 2 extra PG .. uh thanks sure I have CPU out the window now but an extra PG isnt going to solve the problem that your giving me a bonus to use KNs a niche weapon that pretty much requires the use of biotics which are PG intensive.
forget about fitting a cloak on this thing.
my usual adv fit gets to upgrade from a basic red to an enhanced red or upgrade my basic combat rifle to either RS90 or BK42
i also have 125 CPU and a high slot I dont know what to do with, shield recharger or precision enhancer since no PG cost |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
1285
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Posted - 2014.03.11 21:54:00 -
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I just gave Minmatar scouts and nova knives a try with my forum alt, and even with limited fitting options and constantly being scanned, I had a blast! It was so much fun stabbing people and being a ninja all around, even got a decent 12/20 KD ratio for my forst match.
I'll definitely try this combo more often!
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Feb. 10th
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
1385
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Posted - 2014.03.11 22:18:00 -
[11070] - Quote
Denak Kalamari wrote:I just gave Minmatar scouts and nova knives a try with my forum alt, and even with limited fitting options and constantly being scanned, I had a blast! It was so much fun stabbing people and being a ninja all around, even got a decent 12/20 KD ratio for my forst match. I'll definitely try this combo more often!
I'm looking forward to branching out into Min suits and knives on this character... given that it's only scout suits that I'm interested in; why not collect them all. I didn't do half bad running ZN-28's on my gallente standard scout suit during the shinobi event. Maxium sneak was required given my lack of biotic modules and ish-noks. (80 scalps collected in total).
I guess at some point I'll consider speccing into a medium suit, but.... *bleh* it would have to be something fast, like Minmatar.
Double posting like a Kaiser.
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