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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2170
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Posted - 2014.03.04 23:00:00 -
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Ninja Troll wrote:Hey Monk, Llast and I had some fun matches last night. Although there was one with proto scanners (not meta 9). We chased a rail tanker away with our NK. (& RE) It always makes me laugh when tankers panic against scouts.
I haven't passed the SP cap yet, so I'll be playing later tonight. It's the last day for Operation Maul-The-Fatties. I haven't used a Heavy suit during this event. Didn't keep track of my kills, but doubt I reached the bonus SP cap.
Thanks to everyone that shared their experience with PC matches. 07
That HAV was terrified of us
KRRROOOOOOM
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Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
170
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Posted - 2014.03.04 23:11:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Got bored and fed up with tanks.. Decided to use a BPO LAV with BPO shield boost and a militia afterburner (2k isk) And my mad b0mb3r Sever logi. OMG.. why haven't I been doing this sooneRtm!!! Too much fun. Afterbunner does not work on ground vehicles us the fuel injector.
Silent you must be
Or die you will
From True scout a kind message
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J0LLY R0G3R
0uter.Heaven
574
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Posted - 2014.03.04 23:23:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Went to minecraft and had jolly burn my villagers to death stuck in a house. squidwards blood is on your hands ccp
U kill my cats, I free your villagers.
XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
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mollerz
2569
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Posted - 2014.03.04 23:28:00 -
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Nyra Volki wrote:mollerz wrote:Got bored and fed up with tanks.. Decided to use a BPO LAV with BPO shield boost and a militia afterburner (2k isk) And my mad b0mb3r Sever logi. OMG.. why haven't I been doing this sooneRtm!!! Too much fun. Afterbunner does not work on ground vehicles us the fuel injector.
The militia afterburner works on ground vehicles.
You can only have them if you owned them before they were removed. Unlike the militia overdrives, of which I have 100 or so, you can restock the militia afterburners.
shhhh.. don't tell nobady.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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mollerz
2569
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Posted - 2014.03.04 23:29:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:noob cavman wrote:Went to minecraft and had jolly burn my villagers to death stuck in a house. squidwards blood is on your hands ccp U kill my cats, I free your villagers.
And throw his tea into the harbor!
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
170
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Posted - 2014.03.05 00:10:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Nyra Volki wrote:mollerz wrote:Got bored and fed up with tanks.. Decided to use a BPO LAV with BPO shield boost and a militia afterburner (2k isk) And my mad b0mb3r Sever logi. OMG.. why haven't I been doing this sooneRtm!!! Too much fun. Afterbunner does not work on ground vehicles us the fuel injector. The militia afterburner works on ground vehicles. You can only have them if you owned them before they were removed. Unlike the militia overdrives, of which I have 100 or so, you can restock the militia afterburners. shhhh.. don't tell nobady. They have never work on ground vehicles. Put a afterburner and injector use them both one after the other an then tell me which one works.
Silent you must be
Or die you will
From True scout a kind message
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mollerz
2570
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Posted - 2014.03.05 00:13:00 -
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I put it on the LAV, hit it, and my speed increases and I get the "wind" effect.
Tell me moar how it isn't working.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Patrick57
5748
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Posted - 2014.03.05 00:14:00 -
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mollerz wrote: I put it on the LAV, hit it, and my speed increases and I get the "wind" effect.
Tell me moar how it isn't working.
Are you getting the names mixed up maybe? :3
Zatara hates me :(
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Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
170
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Posted - 2014.03.05 00:24:00 -
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mollerz wrote: I put it on the LAV, hit it, and my speed increases and I get the "wind" effect.
Tell me moar how it isn't working.
You can get the 'wind' effect without a booster that tells you you've hit top speed.
Silent you must be
Or die you will
From True scout a kind message
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2172
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Posted - 2014.03.05 00:26:00 -
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This discussion prompted a thought What if Afterburners could be kicked in when you are in the airGǪ on any vehicle LAV jumping off of dunes and ramps
KRRROOOOOOM
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Patrick57
5748
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Posted - 2014.03.05 00:28:00 -
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Imagine it with Chromosome's LAV mechanics. You could probably fly across the whole map with an afterburner and a fuel injector.
Zatara hates me :(
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2172
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Posted - 2014.03.05 00:36:00 -
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Well lets see what happens lol
Edit: The potential for skilled airborne JJ against Dropships
KRRROOOOOOM
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
460
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Posted - 2014.03.05 00:58:00 -
[10753] - Quote
Or a new way to get those pesky redline snipers.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
645
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Posted - 2014.03.05 02:14:00 -
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Driftward wrote:Some of us were discussing the asymmetry between precision vs profile that will be in place for scouts come 1.8. Does what I say here make sense? Driftoward wrote:Hell, even a 5 point bonus (->40 dB) would help out the scanning situation.
That way it would scale such that with 1 complex precision enh would allow a cal scout to pick up a non-gal scout with 1 complex damp (uncloaked) or an undampened cloaked non-gal scout.
That's still seems a little messed up to me that you would still need to add modules to the best passive scanning suit in the game, but that would be a conservative change.
Dropping the scan precision (of all scouts) to 35 dB would be ideal in my opinion. The way that precision enhancers are set up with complex giving a -20% bonus allows complex dampeners to outstrip them after stacking.
As such, a gallente scout will still beat the caldari scout (in terms of passive scanning) with the addition of 1 complex damp (vs 1 complex precision) though without dampeners the 2 will be ~equal in terms of profile damp (gal) v. precision (cal).
This would continue with the incremental increase in the dampeners and precision enhancer modules used (with full skills). ____Gal Scout____I____Cal Scout_____I____Generic Scout precision___ 0 damp = 23.6 dB__I__0 prec = 23.6 dB__I__0 prec/damp = 31.5 / 31.5 dB 1 damp = 17.7 dB__I__1 prec = 18.9 dB__I__1 prec/damp = 25.2 / 23.6 dB 2 damp = 13.3 dB__I__2 prec = 15.6 dB__I__2 prec/damp = 20.8 / 17.7 dB
Also, this doesn't take into account the cloaking bonus. That essentially adds one complex damp to anyone using it (while activated) Thus, an undampened scout will still be picked up by a cal scout while cloaked (probably, ~equal profile/precision) but if they run an additional dampener then they hit 17.7 dB and require a cal scout to use at least 2 precision modules.
Gallente scout is still mostly invisible regardless of situation but can be picked up with 1-3 stacked precision modules depending on how damped they are.
Also, this allows *other* non-cal scouts to have some semblance of tac-net vision of other scouts. They have to sacrifice a fair amount of fitting (ie at least 1 module if not 2 to be effective) to scan other scouts but aren't as effective at that role as the caldari scout. Thus, we have a counter for dampened scouts as well as a partial counter to the *invisibility* of gal scouts.
Thoughts? Worthy of a feedback thread? I'd have to disagree with this Drift. I can see a couple of issues it introduces to scouts, but the main problem is that it completely destroys medium vs light balance.
By making scout base scan precision 35, a medium with level 5 dampening and a complex dampener would be visible by any scout with level 3 precision enhancement, or a level 1 Caldari scout. Mediums would be in a worse situation than they are with the current Active Scanner spam.
And on the scout side, the balance should be to favour dampening over precision. I'm not sure if the current numbers are the best balance, but the benefits of precision far out way the benefits of dampening. Not being seen is useful, but really only puts you at a level playing field with other scouts or mediums/heavies with low visibility. Being able to see your opponents passively from range is a massive advantage.
Knowledge is power
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Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1371
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Posted - 2014.03.05 03:01:00 -
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Brokerib's I want to like your post more, but too lazy to boost the post with my many alts
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com (checked every Monday/Wednesday/Friday)
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mollerz
2572
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Posted - 2014.03.05 03:23:00 -
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Nyra Volki wrote: They have never work on ground vehicles. Put a afterburner and injector use them both one after the other an then tell me which one works.
I see the big difference between the two.. however, imperceptible as it is.. Try hitting another LAV without the afterburner on, and then hit one with it on. One LAV I made go airborne as I drove "under" it, and another LAV I hit broad side and made it flip fully into the air and land about 10 meters away.
I also have a stockpile of these POS' from back in the day I'd love to sell.
But you got me.. I am moving over to injector.. It is way better for outpacing a tank turret.
So far I am 4/6 on tank kills. Even when I messed up, I still manage to get away. Pretty rad. I remember I used ot do this a lot in BF3 so it's all coming back to me.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
1083
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Posted - 2014.03.05 03:25:00 -
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A conservative shotgun buff. Tell me if you like it, think its too conservative, or think its OP
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Appia Nappia
Nos Nothi
311
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Posted - 2014.03.05 03:31:00 -
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Why the **** would anyone want more dispersion? "**** yeah! finally! Now I'm guaranteed to miss several pellets a shot! Oh joyous day, thanks to the genius that thought dispersion was a good idea."
With all these terrible things you post... at least you don't say that Scouts actually agree with you.
Secretly Appia Vibbia
If you can read my signature... I'm on the wrong alt.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
1083
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Posted - 2014.03.05 03:36:00 -
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Appia Nappia wrote:Why the **** would anyone want more dispersion? "**** yeah! finally! Now I'm guaranteed to miss several pellets a shot! Oh joyous day, thanks to the genius that thought dispersion was a good idea."
With all these terrible things you post... at least you don't say that Scouts actually agree with you. Why? because the reticle is very difficult to gauge, especially when inside of the reticle there is only a certain unmarked radius that actually hits the enemy.
And actually several scouts do agree with me, Djinn marauder and one other i can't remember actually made a video addressing this issue.
All your posts are ill conceived and represent a complete lack of fore thought on your behalf, as well as an overly aggressive stance towards attacking anyone whose viewpoints differ in any way from your own, without actually taking into account the gravity of their suggestions.
In other words, shut the **** up you stupid **** ill fuckin kill you in real life if you try to talk **** to me like that
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Ironyimation Inception
R 0 N 1 N
125
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Posted - 2014.03.05 03:52:00 -
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2edgy4me
Closed Beta Veteran
Explosives Fanatic, 5 Man Remote Explosive Kill
5 Man M8 Packed Locus Grenade Kill
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mollerz
2572
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Posted - 2014.03.05 03:55:00 -
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woah, leave Appia alone. I'm the only one who gets to knock her around...
I just stopped by to say I am not immune!
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
168
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Posted - 2014.03.05 03:56:00 -
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Appia please stop acting like a b!tch and confront people in their threads (to their face).
This isnt the first time and its seriously disrespectful
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
1085
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Posted - 2014.03.05 04:01:00 -
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Well if you want me to back off then she/he better **** off because this happens with everything i post, and its fuckin annoying and if someone did talk to me like that in real life instead of being a pu$sy, i would hurt them. So to appia, don't fuckin comment on anything i post again
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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mollerz
2572
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Posted - 2014.03.05 04:08:00 -
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But what about my hilarious self deprecating meme?
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2180
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Posted - 2014.03.05 04:14:00 -
[10765] - Quote
mollerz wrote:But what about my hilarious self deprecating meme? I appreciated it
KRRROOOOOOM
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Fusion Commander
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
110
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Posted - 2014.03.05 04:21:00 -
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Appia Nappia wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Ninja Troll wrote:Might join the more serious corps later. Although I've read that PC isn't fun for most scouts. You're asking the wrong Scouts. Unless Fusion Commander is forced to play PC, then he must think it's pretty fun. Fusion is a mediocre scout when it comes to PC, though his tag team combo with TTW was pretty good. That combo is the closest i've ever seen come close to DJINN Marauder + Obi-Wan Jackobi. Those two could hold down a two-point city map on their own, before hit-detection was fixed after stamina was nerfed. But Fusion and TTW couldn't come close to that, they mostly suicide-ganked and were nuisances at best.
Then AE must be getting very very desperate since they've tried multiple times to recruit a mediocre suicide-ganking nuisance for pc such as myself, right since I'm so bad at doing pc because all I want to do is suicide-gank all day apparently that's what AE wants for there pc battles |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
2181
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Posted - 2014.03.05 04:22:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Appia Nappia wrote:Why the **** would anyone want more dispersion? "**** yeah! finally! Now I'm guaranteed to miss several pellets a shot! Oh joyous day, thanks to the genius that thought dispersion was a good idea."
With all these terrible things you post... at least you don't say that Scouts actually agree with you. Why? because the reticle is very difficult to gauge, especially when inside of the reticle there is only a certain unmarked radius that actually hits the enemy. And actually several scouts do agree with me, Djinn marauder and one other i can't remember actually made a video addressing this issue. All your posts are ill conceived and represent a complete lack of fore thought on your behalf, as well as an overly aggressive stance towards attacking anyone whose viewpoints differ in any way from your own, without actually taking into account the gravity of their suggestions. Stopped there and you would have been fine
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: other words, shut the **** up you stupid **** ill fuckin kill you in real life if you try to talk **** to me like that Here is where you crossed the line dude
Yes, Appia disagrees with you, and yes in a less than diplomatic way. You want to drag hollow real world threats into something this trivial?
As far as the SG fix goes: The way the shotgun suffers in my opinion is that it's reticule does not match it's firing area across it's range. Less dispersion as Appia prefers means that more pellets land in a concentrated area, (essentially throwing slugs instead of scatter) This means the existing damage model is effective, but the reticule should change to reflect it.
Greater dispersion would require more damage, either through a damage increase per pellet, or an increase in the amount of pellets thrown. If this cover the reticule in a meaningful way then the SG would have less problems, I think.
Why is it always the SG that starts things around here
KRRROOOOOOM
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DaNizzle4shizle
631
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Posted - 2014.03.05 04:25:00 -
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WHO IS READY FR 1.8!!!!!!
Forum Warrior lvl 0.6. yes...... i do keep track of my milestones :)
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
1088
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Posted - 2014.03.05 04:39:00 -
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mollerz wrote:But what about my hilarious self deprecating meme? i loled
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
1088
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Posted - 2014.03.05 04:41:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Appia Nappia wrote:Why the **** would anyone want more dispersion? "**** yeah! finally! Now I'm guaranteed to miss several pellets a shot! Oh joyous day, thanks to the genius that thought dispersion was a good idea."
With all these terrible things you post... at least you don't say that Scouts actually agree with you. Why? because the reticle is very difficult to gauge, especially when inside of the reticle there is only a certain unmarked radius that actually hits the enemy. And actually several scouts do agree with me, Djinn marauder and one other i can't remember actually made a video addressing this issue. All your posts are ill conceived and represent a complete lack of fore thought on your behalf, as well as an overly aggressive stance towards attacking anyone whose viewpoints differ in any way from your own, without actually taking into account the gravity of their suggestions. Stopped there and you would have been fine Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: other words, shut the **** up you stupid **** ill fuckin kill you in real life if you try to talk **** to me like that Here is where you crossed the line dude Yes, Appia disagrees with you, and yes in a less than diplomatic way. You want to drag hollow real world threats into something this trivial? As far as the SG fix goes: The way the shotgun suffers in my opinion is that it's reticule does not match it's firing area across it's range. Less dispersion as Appia prefers means that more pellets land in a concentrated area, (essentially throwing slugs instead of scatter) This means the existing damage model is effective, but the reticule should change to reflect it. Greater dispersion would require more damage, either through a damage increase per pellet, or an increase in the amount of pellets thrown. If this cover the reticule in a meaningful way then the SG would have less problems, I think. Why is it always the SG that starts things around here ok fine. i got kinda mad but i didn't threaten. I said what i would do if someone said something like that to me in real life
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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