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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 1234	Posted - 2014.01.17 16:15:00 - [7621] - Quote do my eyes deceive me? are the buffs actually true? I...I'm tearing up right now...I'm speechless... Anime > EVERYTHING
Chaos Scum Warcaste 23	Posted - 2014.01.17 16:15:00 - [7622] - Quote DISGRUNTLEDev wrote: So far during this event, I've had a number of honorless scouts kill me. While approaching each other, they pull knives, so I pull mine out. These motherless dogs then pull out their rifle and kill me. What is an honorable response to getting gunned down after accepting knife fights? There is no honor in New Eden. Its where the weak and deceitful thrive. Don't hate me because I'm dutiful.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 12201	Posted - 2014.01.17 16:21:00 - [7623] - Quote Hans had a major helping hand as well in getting you guys more slots (basically told the team to not be afraid of giving slots at no costs if it helped meet platform roles) CPM as a whole can get blamed for removing the cloak bonuses and make scouts scoutier and reliable without the cloak. The only thing I did was pointed out the fallacy of taking away either side arm or grenade away and you guys have plenty of hand in it as well building up the arguments and coming up with the ammo to sell our points and then of course CCP Remnant coming out of the cubicle. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
pseudosnipre 544	Posted - 2014.01.17 16:28:00 - [7624] - Quote DISGRUNTLEDev wrote: So far during this event, I've had a number of honorless scouts kill me. While approaching each other, they pull knives, so I pull mine out. These motherless dogs then pull out their rifle and kill me. What is an honorable response to getting gunned down after accepting knife fights? I told mantis clone of KEQ that its a ***** move to bait a fellow scout into a knife duel and then CR him. No response, so I'm hoping his integrity grew three sizes that day. Hell, even medium frames understand honor! Ran into Llast on his alt for my first knife duel...10 seconds into it a blue LAV driver pulls over a hill, jumps into his turret and locks onto Llast...and politely waits the five seconds it takes for our dance to end BEFORE gunning down Llast like a dog. Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
pseudosnipre 544	Posted - 2014.01.17 16:30:00 - [7625] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Hans had a major helping hand as well in getting you guys more slots (basically told the team to not be afraid of giving slots at no costs if it helped meet platform roles) CPM as a whole can get blamed for removing the cloak bonuses and make scouts scoutier and reliable without the cloak. The only thing I did was pointed out the fallacy of taking away either side arm or grenade away and you guys have plenty of hand in it as well building up the arguments and coming up with the ammo to sell our points and then of course CCP Remnant coming out of the cubicle. Here, have a like. ...and a friend. Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
pseudosnipre 544	Posted - 2014.01.17 16:36:00 - [7626] - Quote Proposal: front page, first thing list OG scouts. Got a qq about a scout wrecking you? Make sure it isnt one of these guys. Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
pseudosnipre 544	Posted - 2014.01.17 16:38:00 - [7627] - Quote Kahn Zo wrote: "Scout mk.0 (base stat comparison) +136, CPU Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 758	Posted - 2014.01.17 16:40:00 - [7628] - Quote mollerz wrote: 2EQ slots! Cloak + RE Nano + RE Cloak + Nano Cloak + Uplink RE + Uplink lots of room for different strategies now You left out RE + RE For multi-objective mayhem
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 1253	Posted - 2014.01.17 16:45:00 - [7629] - Quote Hey, Llast, it's not just you. link 1.8 can't get here soon enough.
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 758	Posted - 2014.01.17 16:55:00 - [7630] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: Planned fittings (for Cal scout): ... Scout Hunter: 2x cmp shield extenders (1x for ADV) 2x cmp precision enhancers 2x range extenders Pshaw. Scout hunter: 3xprecision enhancer You're gonna need it: precision of passive is only 45 still I feel like there's something wrong with me, when for some reason the thing I'm most excited about, is being able to fit 3xprecision enhancers. Maybe it was from all the times I got stealth knifed while hacking yesterday ...or even on the run. Daaang, demzor is a beast of a scout. Freakin minja ghost blur.

Llast 326 An Arkhos 1402	Posted - 2014.01.17 16:56:00 - [7631] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: DISGRUNTLEDev wrote: So far during this event, I've had a number of honorless scouts kill me. While approaching each other, they pull knives, so I pull mine out. These motherless dogs then pull out their rifle and kill me. What is an honorable response to getting gunned down after accepting knife fights? I told mantis clone of KEQ that its a ***** move to bait a fellow scout into a knife duel and then CR him. No response, so I'm hoping his integrity grew three sizes that day. Hell, even medium frames understand honor! Ran into Llast on his alt for my first knife duel...10 seconds into it a blue LAV driver pulls over a hill, jumps into his turret and locks onto Llast...and politely waits the five seconds it takes for our dance to end BEFORE gunning down Llast like a dog. It was beautiful I could see the LAV and the Red on my passive. When Red decided to wait I knew the outcome if I won, he didn't waste a second after the fight. KRRROOOOOOM
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1406	Posted - 2014.01.17 16:59:00 - [7632] - Quote Krom Ganesh wrote: Hey, Llast, it's not just you. link Priceless You have no idea how much I laughed at that. KRRROOOOOOM
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 7914	Posted - 2014.01.17 17:00:00 - [7633] - Quote It's... beautiful. I'd just like to say that I came in when scouts were terrible, k? Seriously though, this looks utterly fantastic. Especially as I can get a proto scout in a month. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 191	Posted - 2014.01.17 17:02:00 - [7634] - Quote DISGRUNTLEDev wrote: So far during this event, I've had a number of honorless scouts kill me. While approaching each other, they pull knives, so I pull mine out. These motherless dogs then pull out their rifle and kill me. What is an honorable response to getting gunned down after accepting knife fights? I had this happen WAY too many times. I'm just glad that I finished my 200 kills on Thursday so I don't have to deal with it anymore. Be warned fellow scouts, that means I WILL NOT be carrying NKs and will shoot on sight regardless of what dropsuit I am using. Although, I'm not the kind of ******* that would shoot two dueling scouts, no worries there. As for the new suits, after some more thought, I'm probably going Caldari/Gallente. They both remind me of my old rep tanked scout that I used throughout the various stages of Beta. Both can get insanely high repair rates for their respective shield/armor preference. These two seem like the best sustained hit and run scouts, able to take a hit better than Minmatar and recover faster than the Amarr. The Amarr will probably be next, it has crazy armor tanking potential and will be unstoppable if it has a Gal logi with a steady supply of triage hives. Unlike the Gal Scout, it has loads of stamina to balance out the speed loss from armor tanking. It could also be a great uplink runner, it can use its lows for all stamina/speed mods because of it's higher base HP. It could run a quick uplink out for an Amarr Logi, who then establishes the primary spawns. Still not too interested in the Minmatar Scout, looks good, but it isn't my favorite. Looks like the best flanker, very quick hit and run. I could see the Minmatar being a real menace for outside skirmish letters, it can get in, assassinate, hack, and get out long before anyone can react.
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 514	Posted - 2014.01.17 17:03:00 - [7635] - Quote Im switching over to Caldari if I get a respec. IT will be a far better NK killer then the minmitar. Also did scouts actually want a hack bonus? Makes you soooo vulnerable. It will be a little slower, but the scan profile range and precision is going to be worth it for knifing. Added to that the insane shields, I will be able to tank well and move fast. likely dual kincats in the lows and I wont have an issue getting close. PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Youtube
Kahn Zo Furyan Alpha 228	Posted - 2014.01.17 17:09:00 - [7636] - Quote Oh geeze, here comes the band wagon..... Scouts, the new FOTM.... Like many, I have been patiently waiting and waiting. Very patiently I might add. will see a lot more logi converts I think (?)..... not that I do not mind, just an observation, speculation, crystal balling into the near distant future. Man, I am so glad I am about 10ml sp coming into the new rise of the scout. Positive rant done " No no no no. I can't just fit willy nilly on my suit." ~ mollerz " yes, yes you can! when 1.8 deploys..." ~ Kahn Zo
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1407	Posted - 2014.01.17 17:13:00 - [7637] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: Im switching over to Caldari if I get a respec. IT will be a far better NK killer then the minmitar. Also did scouts actually want a hack bonus? Makes you soooo vulnerable. It will be a little slower, but the scan profile range and precision is going to be worth it for knifing. Added to that the insane shields, I will be able to tank well and move fast. likely dual kincats in the lows and I wont have an issue getting close. I can't wait to see what people do with the new scouts On potential respec, I'll be staying Gal on this account as well as Min on my alt. Though i must say I am a little Cal Curious KRRROOOOOOM
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 759	Posted - 2014.01.17 17:13:00 - [7638] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: Im switching over to Caldari if I get a respec. IT will be a far better NK killer then the minmitar. Also did scouts actually want a hack bonus? Makes you soooo vulnerable. It will be a little slower, but the scan profile range and precision is going to be worth it for knifing. Added to that the insane shields, I will be able to tank well and move fast. likely dual kincats in the lows and I wont have an issue getting close. ??? anything on the move, is going to be almost impossible to hit, unless you're really... oh. wait. it's you but for the REST of us, I'm currently thinking caldari is going to be the worst NK killer suit, simply because of the glacially slow 5.4m/s walk speed.
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 515	Posted - 2014.01.17 17:26:00 - [7639] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: Im switching over to Caldari if I get a respec. IT will be a far better NK killer then the minmitar. Also did scouts actually want a hack bonus? Makes you soooo vulnerable. It will be a little slower, but the scan profile range and precision is going to be worth it for knifing. Added to that the insane shields, I will be able to tank well and move fast. likely dual kincats in the lows and I wont have an issue getting close. ??? anything on the move, is going to be almost impossible to hit, unless you're really... oh. wait. it's you but for the REST of us, I'm currently thinking caldari is going to be the worst NK killer suit, simply because of the glacially slow 5.4m/s walk speed. Ive only ever had minmitar at level 3 because I just havent had the SP nor the patience to get it to level 5. Until CCP decided to buff scouts I worked on my core skills. Its worked great for knifing without the bonus imo. The walk speed might be an issue, but I usually sprint slice dudes and with cloak they might not even see me in the first place. Having the tacnet lit up for 50m will outweigh the loss of walk speed. Cal is only .2 m/s slower than the minmitar. Cal is the second fastest suit in the game for movement speed, tied with Gal. Added to that I wont ever run armor plates and most other suits likely will. Including Gal and Minmitar. I wore std plates on my mini for a long time with knives. PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Youtube
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 759	Posted - 2014.01.17 17:34:00 - [7640] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: Ive only ever had minmitar at level 3 because I just havent had the SP nor the patience to get it to level 5. Until CCP decided to buff scouts I worked on my core skills. Its worked great for knifing without the bonus imo. The walk speed might be an issue, but I usually sprint slice dudes and with cloak they might not even see me in the first place. How often have you actually gone knifing with gallente? The problem is that when you swing, it drops you to walk speed. Given the microscopic effective distance of the knives, that sometimes makes a difference I think. Quote: Having the tacnet lit up for 50m will outweigh the loss of walk speed. Cal is only .2 m/s slower than the minmitar. Cal is the second fastest suit in the game for movement speed, tied with Gal. I think caldari is .1 slower than gallente, unless I misread. or at least .1 slower than gallente is now. 5.4, vs 5.5

Lucifalic Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 216	Posted - 2014.01.17 17:42:00 - [7641] - Quote They appear to both be 5.45
Ruthless Lee The Eliminators 311	Posted - 2014.01.17 17:44:00 - [7642] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: Im switching over to Caldari if I get a respec. IT will be a far better NK killer then the minmitar. Also did scouts actually want a hack bonus? Makes you soooo vulnerable. It will be a little slower, but the scan profile range and precision is going to be worth it for knifing. Added to that the insane shields, I will be able to tank well and move fast. likely dual kincats in the lows and I wont have an issue getting close. I can't wait to see what people do with the new scouts On potential respec, I'll be staying Gal on this account as well as Min on my alt. Though i must say I am a little Cal Curious It's going to be great just seeing a variety of scouts out there ... finally. And then seeing the theorycrafting, etc., ... exciting times ahead. I started out as a Gallente scout, but when I started running SP/NK/RE's so much in 1.6, I began to skill up my minnie scout tree. Honestly not sure which scout I will focus on with a respec ... they all have something that looks enticing.
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 516	Posted - 2014.01.17 17:48:00 - [7643] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: Ive only ever had minmitar at level 3 because I just havent had the SP nor the patience to get it to level 5. Until CCP decided to buff scouts I worked on my core skills. Its worked great for knifing without the bonus imo. The walk speed might be an issue, but I usually sprint slice dudes and with cloak they might not even see me in the first place. How often have you actually gone knifing with gallente? The problem is that when you swing, it drops you to walk speed. Given the microscopic effective distance of the knives, that sometimes makes a difference I think. Thats why you jump when sprinting, charge in the air, then slice as you land on top of them. 25% of 200 is 50 more dmg per knife. so 100 less dmg w/o charge. While I think that is nice, I never really felt it was worth the loss of the scan range. Knowing what direction the enemy is facing is a far beter tool to ambush. Couple that with precision and you get to see every suit on the field including all undamp scouts besides gal. Regardless I will likely try it on an alt first to get an idea for it and make my decision from there. PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Youtube
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 1035	Posted - 2014.01.17 17:56:00 - [7644] - Quote @ new scout suits: Wow, there are some exciting things in the work! Don't get me wrong, I am excited to get an extra slot, an extra EQ slot, a CPU/PG buff, new sidearms.... the list goes on... scan profile reduction. I have to say though that I am worried about FOTM scouts.... super tanked but hard to detect and fast assault lights.... that being said hopefully the new Assault and Heavy suits will keep FOTM chumps from jumping to clan scout. I really don't want to see an influx of FOTM folks, and I may have to ventilate my own head with my best scrambler pistol if I start seeing Nyain San chumps all moving to cloaked scouts. My next big decision is Gal or Cal? The medium suit hunter / proto scanner avoider, or the scout hunter? Hmm.... I'm disappointed to hear Oswald will be going Cal... that makes me more afraid of him. Dampeners, engage! @ Shotty: I'm all for making IWS an honorary scout - he's gone to bat for us, and been scouting lately. Definitely not a title that should be given out lightly. @ IWS, Remnant and Hans: Thanks for your efforts, guys!!! RE: Flako... my experience has been different than Appia's.... guess I'll squad up a few more times and see what happens. Definitely disturbing to hear your comments..... he doesn't strikes me as a light assault player, going all-in and typically w/ the AR.
Oswald Rehnquist 1112	Posted - 2014.01.17 18:33:00 - [7645] - Quote Haerr wrote: Complex Profile Dampener is 25% Complex Precision Enhancer is 20% that is unless they're changing something in 1.8 but so far I haven't seen any posts about it. Caldari Scout base Scan Precision is 45 With level 5 Caldari Scout it is 33.75 With level 5 Precision Enhancement it is 30.375 If you guys have questions or suggestion I am happy to correct / change the chart. Sorry about that, forgot about the other bonus, was tired and not 100% there, I wanted to go to sleep like 2 hours earlier but CCP's stats ruined that. Below 28 dB
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 7921	Posted - 2014.01.17 18:35:00 - [7646] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: @ Shotty: I'm all for making IWS an honorary scout - he's gone to bat for us, and been scouting lately. Definitely not a title that should be given out lightly. I wish I'd gone scoutmode earlier so I could have gotten on this snazzy registry. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4016	Posted - 2014.01.17 18:39:00 - [7647] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: @ Shotty: I'm all for making IWS an honorary scout - he's gone to bat for us, and been scouting lately. Definitely not a title that should be given out lightly. I wish I'd gone scoutmode earlier so I could have gotten on this snazzy registry. I just realized that TTW3x isn't on the board!!! D': Winner of at least 9 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
Ruthless Lee The Eliminators 321	Posted - 2014.01.17 18:59:00 - [7648] - Quote Here we go... WINNER!
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2018	Posted - 2014.01.17 19:01:00 - [7649] - Quote Everyone needs to read this. It's a Google Doc from Haerr that lists what modules you will need to fit to dodge scanners. FOR THE LAZY: Gal scout will dodge all normal scanners and all but Proto Gal scans PASSIVELY. All other scouts will dodge all but Proto Normal Scans, and Adv Gal scans Passively. With one complex damp, you can dodge all scans but Proto Gal With one Complex + 1 Basic, you can dodge all scans barring Proto Focused (which you will never beat unless you are amarr) LAZY STUFF OVER: I am fine with this. If Proto Gal scans become a problem, I can slap on 2 dampeners and dodge them if need be. One complex will probably be enough anyways, since why would Gal Logis need to run Proto Scanners when an ADV scanner will pick up everything but really dampened scouts? I have a feeling that they will want to cut fitting costs. Also, Gal Scouts. You have a new role. It's called KILL THE GAL LOGI. If we are in a squad, we can actually use another scout as bait. Let him be scanned, and then draw them into a Gal Scout ambush. They won't see it coming Seems like Cal Scouts will be anti-scout scouts. Good. I like it. Amarr looks like a a tough, slower scout. I have a feeling it will be the best shotgunner (due to it's increase bulk and massive stamina. Lets you ignore green pills, slap on a Red, and then tank tank tank. Minmatar Scout looks like a great utility scout! Good anti-infantry capabilities and possibly the best hacker in the game now (due to how the bonuses are calculated, you can get some insane hack speed passively. 1.11.25= 1.375 base. Apply one complex codebreaker. 1.3751.25= 1.718x hack speed. That's insane. With one complex breaker, you can hack in almost 5 seconds.) I like this. I don't see scouts being OP, but they will be powerful in their roles, which is all I ever wanted. 1.8 can't come soon enough. Now I am going to go back to the skill planner and decide how I will spend my SP now. Proto Min Scout is a definite, and I MIGHT spec into Min Logi on the side (due to the equipment I will be using as scout. Transfers over well) Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 2018	Posted - 2014.01.17 19:03:00 - [7650] - Quote Ruthless Lee wrote: Here we go... WINNER! Where is he pulling the 25% extra damage? Also: This should go on the front page. That was quick. We don't even have the suits yet Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.



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