So the Devs take note of a random MedFrame's opinion of what would help Scouts?
We've been offering input and advice for how many months?
And this is the sh*t that catches their eye?

*** SHAKES FRECKLED GINGER FISTS ***

If I want to share what I see, I'll run an Active Scanner.

We've had this debate already, but I'll reiterate ... this is a MedFrame buff, not a Scout buff, and it'll make sneaking up on targets even more difficult. Folks don't give a rat's a*s if they get us killed by alerting those we're trying to sneak up behind. When folks see red they fire. Shared Sight is bad news for those of us who sneak up from behind our targets.

this is not shared squad vision for med frame, it is for scouts. If your flanking behind the reds, and your squad initiates fire from the front, it would help you sneak up on the red dot easier. The discussion is squad, so if you don't trust those you squad with, you have bigger issues to worry about.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1572987#post1572987

I'm telling you guys, CCP's gonna make one tiny adjustment at a time.
When that adjustment comes, do you want something to make us better?
Or do you want a "buff" you can use to support your MedFrame squadmates?

After sucking this hard for this long, I'm not in a particularly giving mood.

Sam - I understand where you're coming from, but its in our best interest to treat changes to the Scout as though they'll be the very last. The last thing we need is a MedFrame theorizing for us as to what buff would be best. If we let that happen, we'll end up with quid-pro-quo bullish like this idea. Something that benefits them as much as us. And certainly not something that'd make us better at killing or surviving.

PS: I like your spirit, Sam. I've liked it from the very first time you called me out at Drunk Night. It was awesome. :-)

While I originally supported the idea of allowing scouts to share their passive scan results with their squad, I've realized that it is a bad idea. It would be OP for the same reason the scanner is now--It provides a constant feed of enemy locations. Should the scanner ever get nerfed (and it sorely needs one), scouts would become the new scanner. It's alright for a single scout to have a constant feed since we pay dearly for it. However, giving us shared passive scan would make that irrelevant since we would always have a squad to back us up and keep us on our feet while also ensuring the only effective tactics are simple straightforward advances.

Got a big kick out of your "math" jab :-)

Please note that I fully intend to not participate in the Forums (as promised). In this particular instance, I slipped up as ginger fury, bad habits, and belly full of beer got the better of me.

My Forum Warrior days are over. Retired or not, if it relates to Scouts, you can pretty much bet I'll read it. I'll be cheering you bastards on from the sidelines, with phantom +1s.

I do still intend to pop into the Barber Shop ... offer my two cents from time to time ... but I'm counting on you guys (especially Appia) to give 'em hell in my absence.

Would love to be able to go into the redline to hunt snipers. I can't see it ever happening, but it'd be fun

Not sure what may apply to you.

I've tried looking, but this thing's deep, why'd it close?

Another problem with finding new people to squad with is, the moment I hear people using sexist and/or homophbic slurs constantly I'm usually leaving that squad pretty fast. Which really limits the number of people I play with in this game.

Here's the official reasoning:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1565670#post1565670

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But for you, Spademan, I'll be more candid:
* Six months of being broken and pointing out why.
* Six months of role-specific, expert input from you guys.
* Six months of distilled, highly constructive feedback.
* Six months of "hang in there, guys ... help is on the way."
* Six months of biggest SOS these Fine Forums have ever seen.

What do we have to show for our efforts?
* Harder Hard Mode (nerf, nerf, nerf).
* Easier EZ Mode (buff, buff, buff).
* Broken Scouts remain a non-priority.
* Weapon Balance remains a non-priority.
* We appear to be moving in the wrong direction (see 1.7).

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Like Iggy said, the only reason I came to the Forums was because CCP broke my Suit and Gun with Uprising. The Scout Registry was created as my way of asking for help. Figured this would be better than posting QQ and trying to reason with the Forum Warriors. Six months later, I realize I've probably done more harm than good.

Let me explain:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1574830#post1574830

So ... good idea gone bad ... my fault, guys.

As much as it stings, shutting down our project here might just catch CCP's attention.
If not, at least we gave it our best effort and won't be wasting any more time.
Time to move on and hope for the best.

Hard to argue with that, though I doubt you did much harm, after all, you've gone and created a fairly sizable community of players who can and often will help eachother out, I'd hardly call that a failure, even if it wasn't your intended goal.

An absolutely beautiful and unexpected byproduct of an otherwise selfish endeavor :-)

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