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J0LLY R0G3R
Unkn0wn Killers
205
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:50:00 -
[3871] - Quote
So knifes are peachy at the moment? Now I gotta jump on my alt. Great...haven't played on him in like a month haha.
XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
1736
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:02:00 -
[3872] - Quote
Some of my corp mates were telling me nova knives are now working excellently and in fact you don't even really have to be facing the enemy to take them out pretty easily. Now I have never used knives and don't plan to but I'm pretty psyched that all you guys now have your ninja-yness back :) and back to my pistol/SMG combo...
On that note, started speccing up SMG sharpshooter but wondering if it's worth it and how far you have to take it to get a noticeable effect?
I feel like I've pretty much reached the point where I've got all my skills where I need them and anything extra is just unnecessary extras. I won't be putting anything into biotic modules until I know speed tanking will ever be viable/useful. There's no point in ever going beyond level 2 in any equipment because I'll never have the CPU to be able to fit them. I've got my proto gal scout, lvl 5 prof pistol and lvl 4 prof SMG (will go lvl 5 one day...) and all my core skills where I want them. Not really sure where to go next. Maybe I'll max out my swarms if the adv is no longer at all effective in 1.7 but again probably won't be able to fit proto swarms anyway. Eh, I dunno, I'm just kinda rambling now - useful thoughts would be appreciated.
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Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
842
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:22:00 -
[3873] - Quote
Django Quik wrote:Some of my corp mates were telling me nova knives are now working excellently and in fact you don't even really have to be facing the enemy to take them out pretty easily. Now I have never used knives and don't plan to but I'm pretty psyched that all you guys now have your ninja-yness back :) and back to my pistol/SMG combo...
On that note, started speccing up SMG sharpshooter but wondering if it's worth it and how far you have to take it to get a noticeable effect?
I feel like I've pretty much reached the point where I've got all my skills where I need them and anything extra is just unnecessary extras. I won't be putting anything into biotic modules until I know speed tanking will ever be viable/useful. There's no point in ever going beyond level 2 in any equipment because I'll never have the CPU to be able to fit them. I've got my proto gal scout, lvl 5 prof pistol and lvl 4 prof SMG (will go lvl 5 one day...) and all my core skills where I want them. Not really sure where to go next. Maybe I'll max out my swarms if the adv is no longer at all effective in 1.7 but again probably won't be able to fit proto swarms anyway. Eh, I dunno, I'm just kinda rambling now - useful thoughts would be appreciated.
Okay, proficiency is great on an SMG, but Sharpshooter will boost your dps even higher.
Think of it this way. At rank 0 sharpshooter, you get a spray from the smg. Most bullets don't hit the target after about a second of firing. As sharpshooter increases, it turns that spray into a tight cone of death. You get tons of more bullets on target and your overall DPS increases dramatically.
Get it up to lvl 3 a the least. At lvl 5, you can hipfire that thing like it's being ADS. Amazing.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
2229
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Posted - 2013.11.14 22:54:00 -
[3874] - Quote
Django Quik wrote:Some of my corp mates were telling me nova knives are now working excellently and in fact you don't even really have to be facing the enemy to take them out pretty easily. Now I have never used knives and don't plan to but I'm pretty psyched that all you guys now have your ninja-yness back :) and back to my pistol/SMG combo...
On that note, started speccing up SMG sharpshooter but wondering if it's worth it and how far you have to take it to get a noticeable effect?
I feel like I've pretty much reached the point where I've got all my skills where I need them and anything extra is just unnecessary extras. I won't be putting anything into biotic modules until I know speed tanking will ever be viable/useful. There's no point in ever going beyond level 2 in any equipment because I'll never have the CPU to be able to fit them. I've got my proto gal scout, lvl 5 prof pistol and lvl 4 prof SMG (will go lvl 5 one day...) and all my core skills where I want them. Not really sure where to go next. Maybe I'll max out my swarms if the adv is no longer at all effective in 1.7 but again probably won't be able to fit proto swarms anyway. Eh, I dunno, I'm just kinda rambling now - useful thoughts would be appreciated. SMG Profiency V, Sharpshooter V
III in each is necessary. IV in each is recommended. V in each is worthwhile if SP isn't needed elsewhere.
Swarms are getting boned. Wouldn't upgrade 'em at this time.
I'd get these to V if not there yet: 1) Range extension 2) Armor Upgrades (plates skill) 3) Shield Upgrades (shield ext skill) 4) Electronics and Engineering (IV at minimum) 5) Nades. |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
674
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:14:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Swarms are getting boned. Wouldn't upgrade 'em at this time.
Is the nerf going to change them that much? I was planning on specing into them more (I have lvl1) if I got a respec when the Cal Scout is released. It is so much fun to use a swarm with a speedy scout... though the standard can only really take out installations and LAVs (except those evil LLAVs).
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
2230
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:27:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:Swarms are getting boned. Wouldn't upgrade 'em at this time. Is the nerf going to change them that much? I was planning on specing into them more (I have lvl1) if I got a respec when the Cal Scout is released. It is so much fun to use a swarm with a speedy scout... though the standard can only really take out installations and LAVs (except those evil LLAVs). Lock On Range dramatically nerfed. Tankers are estimating that they'll be able to withstand 8+ volleys. Dropships -- already safe from swarms once airborne -- will be more or less immune as always out of range.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
447
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:29:00 -
[3877] - Quote
Krom if you don't already have it, bump you Hacking up the passive 5%/ lvl bonus is enough to make a difference. This would be my suggestion.
I am apparently not the only fool
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
674
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Posted - 2013.11.14 23:52:00 -
[3878] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:Krom if you don't already have it, bump you Hacking up the passive 5%/ lvl bonus is enough to make a difference. This would be my suggestion.
I already have hacking at three (such an expensive skill ). Anyways, I wasn't planning on specing into swarms unless I got a respec so I could divert SP that is currently in things I don't use into swarms.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
447
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Posted - 2013.11.15 00:04:00 -
[3879] - Quote
Krom Ganesh wrote:(such an expensive skill ) I knowGǪ at three as well
I am apparently not the only fool
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
345
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Posted - 2013.11.15 00:59:00 -
[3880] - Quote
Knives are better...just give me sprint charge or dash and i'll be happy.
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pseudosnipre
DUST University Ivy League
343
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Posted - 2013.11.15 01:01:00 -
[3881] - Quote
Shotty GoBang wrote:Django Quik wrote:Some of my corp mates were telling me nova knives are now working excellently and in fact you don't even really have to be facing the enemy to take them out pretty easily. Now I have never used knives and don't plan to but I'm pretty psyched that all you guys now have your ninja-yness back :) and back to my pistol/SMG combo...
On that note, started speccing up SMG sharpshooter but wondering if it's worth it and how far you have to take it to get a noticeable effect?
I feel like I've pretty much reached the point where I've got all my skills where I need them and anything extra is just unnecessary extras. I won't be putting anything into biotic modules until I know speed tanking will ever be viable/useful. There's no point in ever going beyond level 2 in any equipment because I'll never have the CPU to be able to fit them. I've got my proto gal scout, lvl 5 prof pistol and lvl 4 prof SMG (will go lvl 5 one day...) and all my core skills where I want them. Not really sure where to go next. Maybe I'll max out my swarms if the adv is no longer at all effective in 1.7 but again probably won't be able to fit proto swarms anyway. Eh, I dunno, I'm just kinda rambling now - useful thoughts would be appreciated. SMG Profiency V, Sharpshooter V III in each is necessary. IV in each is recommended. V in each is worthwhile if SP isn't needed elsewhere. Swarms are getting boned. Wouldn't upgrade 'em at this time. I'd get these to V if not there yet: 1) Range extension 2) Armor Upgrades (plates skill) 3) Shield Upgrades (shield ext skill) 4) Electronics and Engineering (IV at minimum) 5) Nades. IWS mentioned SMGs as deserving of nerf...hesitant to put Amy sp into them or ar for the time being.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=120782 |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2013.11.15 01:05:00 -
[3882] - Quote
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=postmessage&t=120409&f=729&q=1497066
CCP LogicLoop wrote:I will bring this up with the Game Designers and other Level Designers in our meeting this morning so as to at least begin a discussion on the topic or get an answer for you all on if this is intentional behaviour or not. "Assuming" I can get any information today, I will return in a few hours with any of that information that I can share.
Well, nothing certain but at least we are making headway.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
448
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Posted - 2013.11.15 01:10:00 -
[3883] - Quote
pseudosnipre wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:Django Quik wrote:Some of my corp mates were telling me nova knives are now working excellently and in fact you don't even really have to be facing the enemy to take them out pretty easily. Now I have never used knives and don't plan to but I'm pretty psyched that all you guys now have your ninja-yness back :) and back to my pistol/SMG combo...
On that note, started speccing up SMG sharpshooter but wondering if it's worth it and how far you have to take it to get a noticeable effect?
I feel like I've pretty much reached the point where I've got all my skills where I need them and anything extra is just unnecessary extras. I won't be putting anything into biotic modules until I know speed tanking will ever be viable/useful. There's no point in ever going beyond level 2 in any equipment because I'll never have the CPU to be able to fit them. I've got my proto gal scout, lvl 5 prof pistol and lvl 4 prof SMG (will go lvl 5 one day...) and all my core skills where I want them. Not really sure where to go next. Maybe I'll max out my swarms if the adv is no longer at all effective in 1.7 but again probably won't be able to fit proto swarms anyway. Eh, I dunno, I'm just kinda rambling now - useful thoughts would be appreciated. SMG Profiency V, Sharpshooter V III in each is necessary. IV in each is recommended. V in each is worthwhile if SP isn't needed elsewhere. Swarms are getting boned. Wouldn't upgrade 'em at this time. I'd get these to V if not there yet: 1) Range extension 2) Armor Upgrades (plates skill) 3) Shield Upgrades (shield ext skill) 4) Electronics and Engineering (IV at minimum) 5) Nades. IWS mentioned SMGs as deserving of nerf...hesitant to put Amy sp into them or ar for the time being. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=120782 I would have no problem spending Amy's sp on it but mine not so sure
I am apparently not the only fool
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
677
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Posted - 2013.11.15 01:13:00 -
[3884] - Quote
I use SMGs and the regular and assault versions are VERY, VERY good this build. I can kill two bricktanked mediums before they realize what happened. And even with the eHP buff, heavies don't stand a chance.
So, yes, they need a nerf just like the ARs.
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
2234
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Posted - 2013.11.15 03:24:00 -
[3885] - Quote
On Omniscient Installations:
[EDIT] Removed ... Krom's already covered Logic Loop's feedback: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1497103#post1497103
Special thanks to Iggy and Moody for providing footage. o7 |
LeGoose
SAM-MIK
84
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:11:00 -
[3886] - Quote
So I have to share this. While playing pub skirmish tonight I blasted this guy in the face with my shotgun. His name? TASTE MY BOOMSTICK. He was using a medium frame witha GEK. Irony? I think so. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
456
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:12:00 -
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LeGoose wrote:So I have to share this. While playing pub skirmish tonight I blasted this guy in the face with my shotgun. His name? TASTE MY BOOMSTICK. He was using a medium frame witha GEK. Irony? I think so. That is ****ing PERFECT
I am apparently not the only fool
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
2173
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:13:00 -
[3888] - Quote
LeGoose wrote:So I have to share this. While playing pub skirmish tonight I blasted this guy in the face with my shotgun. His name? TASTE MY BOOMSTICK. He was using a medium frame witha GEK. Irony? I think so. If only we had video recording on ps3
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 2
A grunt of STB
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
2173
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:16:00 -
[3889] - Quote
Sinboto Simmons wrote:LeGoose wrote:So I have to share this. While playing pub skirmish tonight I blasted this guy in the face with my shotgun. His name? TASTE MY BOOMSTICK. He was using a medium frame witha GEK. Irony? I think so. If only we had video recording on ps3 On that note, this would make bounty collection so much easier.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 2
A grunt of STB
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LeGoose
SAM-MIK
84
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:17:00 -
[3890] - Quote
Sinboto Simmons wrote:LeGoose wrote:So I have to share this. While playing pub skirmish tonight I blasted this guy in the face with my shotgun. His name? TASTE MY BOOMSTICK. He was using a medium frame witha GEK. Irony? I think so. If only we had video recording on ps3 It was pretty awesome. I ended up causing him consecutive deaths and the second time he came after me he brought a friend. Got them both and they didn't come looking for me again. |
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
456
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Posted - 2013.11.15 04:21:00 -
[3891] - Quote
Sinboto Simmons wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:LeGoose wrote:So I have to share this. While playing pub skirmish tonight I blasted this guy in the face with my shotgun. His name? TASTE MY BOOMSTICK. He was using a medium frame witha GEK. Irony? I think so. If only we had video recording on ps3 On that note, this would make bounty collection so much easier. Skate 3 had a recording system built into the gameplay I think. Be nice if we had that in Dust
I am apparently not the only fool
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
2236
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Posted - 2013.11.15 05:43:00 -
[3892] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:I would have no problem spending Amy's sp on it but mine not so sure * laughs * |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
1736
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Posted - 2013.11.15 07:52:00 -
[3893] - Quote
Krom Ganesh wrote:I use SMGs and the regular and assault versions are VERY, VERY good this build. I can kill two bricktanked mediums before they realize what happened. And even with the eHP buff, heavies don't stand a chance. So, yes, they need a nerf just like the ARs. You know, i was thinking this through too but i actually think the smg is fine. Reason being that you have to get in very close range with it to get high dps. The fact that you have to get within half the optimum range of rifles to even reach your effective range means that you've already done a fantastic job of getting in close and deserve that high damage potential. It needs no more a nerf than any other cqc weapon like the shotgun or novas.
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Oswald Rehnquist
578
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Posted - 2013.11.15 09:19:00 -
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I remember somebody at one point asked about recording something, I got a recorder and produced this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8X7qUXaqS8&feature=youtu.be
Plenty of flaws in my gameplay in the video (especially my first death as I was an idiot there), but its me soloing and having fun. Also showcasing my play style, not all of it is exciting though, the first half is better than the last half.
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
2239
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Posted - 2013.11.15 14:36:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:I remember somebody at one point asked about recording something, I got a recorder and produced this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8X7qUXaqS8&feature=youtu.bePlenty of flaws in my gameplay in the video (especially my first death as I was an idiot there), but its me soloing and having fun. Also showcasing my play style, not all of it is exciting though, the first half is better than the last half. 200HP + dual pistols!? Mr Musturd will be proud. :-)
Favorite engagement ~4:30. Scout with 74 HP ... 3 hostiles in pursuit. You, sir, are a sneaky bastard. o7
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chase rowland
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
70
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Posted - 2013.11.15 14:43:00 -
[3896] - Quote
I love how I see this every week and its had so many posts, it brings a smile to my face. |
Quil Evrything
DUST University Ivy League
386
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Posted - 2013.11.15 15:02:00 -
[3897] - Quote
Django Quik wrote: You know, i was thinking this through too but i actually think the smg is fine. Reason being that you have to get in very close range with it to get high dps.
Unless your name is shotty. Ive seen him wax some guy in under 2 seconds, from 25 or 30m I think? :-/
Quote:The fact that you have to get within half the optimum range of rifles to even reach your effective range means that you've already done a fantastic job of getting in close and deserve that high damage potential. It needs no more a nerf than any other cqc weapon like the shotgun or novas.
I dont consider 30 meters to be "close"
Hm. let me be clearer on my position. I'm not saying they need a nerf. At the same time though, I have to protest claims of, "they dont need a nerf, because they're only close range weapons"
Please come up with another excuse :)
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Daxxis KANNAH
Distinct Covert Initiative
450
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Posted - 2013.11.15 15:20:00 -
[3898] - Quote
Well I would say that their "close range" is already too much.
imo their range should be reduced.
I would also like to see sharpshooter go away entirely on all weapons and if that happened then maybe their range can remain. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
2241
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Posted - 2013.11.15 15:25:00 -
[3899] - Quote
Quil Evrything wrote: Unless your name is shotty. Ive seen him wax some guy in under 2 seconds, from 25 or 30m I think? :-/
Probably a 'bit further. Sharpshooter adds quite a 'bit of reach to the SMG. In my opinion, all high RoF weapons (excluding the HMG) should have Aim Assist dialed back a 'bit. Gun Game doesn't matter otherwise.
On a side note, I'm running a pistol today. Only at Operation II, so I haven't unlocked the goodies yet, but ... HOLY COW THIS THING IS AWESOME! |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
457
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Posted - 2013.11.15 15:31:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Quil Evrything wrote: Unless your name is shotty. Ive seen him wax some guy in under 2 seconds, from 25 or 30m I think? :-/
On a side note, I'm running a pistol today. Only at Operation II, so I haven't unlocked the goodies yet, but ... HOLY COW THIS THING IS AWESOME! I know, they are great. Try duals, one breach and one regular, heavies quake
I am apparently not the only fool
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