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OZAROW
WarRavens
League of Infamy
998
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Posted - 2013.10.30 01:35:00 -
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So anyone happy with this scan stuff cuz honestly I don't think any of it means dik!
No an sg should have been working since forever anyway an just cuz they say it's fixed don't mean it's fixed.
So scouts get 6m more cool for proto gallente scouts but that means u need a percision mod in your only high, a pd in your low, a range or two an get left with one or two slots to decide on, speed ,stamina, armor, reps.
Minja could rok a shield an percision an damage or w/e but your lows you have two slots to decide on range, pd, speed, armor, stamina, reps, or shield regs, hack mod.
Personally if this is their idea of a buff that's crap.
The gallente basically gets a double bonus for range an stealth an minja gets what knives an a weak as$ punch that nobody probably ever uses.
Ccp is s.a.F! |
Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
696
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Posted - 2013.10.30 01:36:00 -
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28 minutes of stupidity. He just created a 28 minute video of him getting 3 kills, and going through the comment section of Scouts United and rereading all of our posts in a mocking voice (with the voice changer. Not kidding.)
Oh and by the way. We are ALL STUPID.
I do wanna know what music is playing in the background though. Music was sick.
Also, This is to King Thunderbolt (He may or may not read this, but this is the only way to talk to the guy apparently)
I did not lie about your stats. Also, I wouldn't talk about you on the forums if you hadn't banned me from commenting on youtube. You can't yell at people for talking behind your back if you won't let them say anything to your face. If you want me to talk to your face, then by all means, squad up with me. Since you banned me, I assumed that you can't take criticism. Thus if I actually wanted to find out what you meant by "Adding weight to the shotgun", I would have to say that I wouldn't criticize you.
Also, calling other people gay? Seriously? I assumed that you were childish when you turned on the voice changer and started mocking people, but really? Looking on Adam's profile, at a picture of him, and saying you bet he has a really small package? Really mature.
Sorry if all the other Scouts have to see this. As I said, only way to talk to the guy. Can't wait to run into this guy in a match.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
489
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Posted - 2013.10.30 01:45:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:
Did NOT evade proto with 1xADV, 1xbasic.
(i think)
I believe* this is how it should be calculated
45 * 0.95 * 0.94 * .8 * ( 1 - 0.15 * 0.86 ) = 28.0009
which would make you still vulnerable to proto scanners.
*:
Does the stacking penalty apply when stacking modules of different tiers?
If so, which module gets the penalty? The lowest tier? |
Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
310
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Posted - 2013.10.30 01:58:00 -
[3244] - Quote
Krom Ganesh wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:
Did NOT evade proto with 1xADV, 1xbasic.
(i think)
I believe this is how it should be calculated 45 * 0.95 * 0.94 * .85 * ( 1 - 0.2 * 0.86 ) = 28.2822 which would make you still vulnerable to proto scanners.
huh.. how did you get that stuff in parens?
and does it mean, then, that the calculator at
http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Stacking_Penalties
is broken, then?
Using your math, it results in the adjustments for modules to come out to
.70380
whereas when I plug in 20, 15 into the above calc, I get
35.64
which inverted, is 64.mumble
Seems like the difference is that THEIR calc applies penalty to smallest one, whereas your calc applies it to largest one.
???
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
489
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Posted - 2013.10.30 02:03:00 -
[3245] - Quote
Penalty on the smallest one would mean your db would be 28.0009.
I originally calculated both since I've never bothered finding out which gets the penalty but the Dust Fitting Tool displayed the result that had the highest tier getting the penalty.
As for the formula, it's the one I've seen used by many others on the forum when talking about stacking penalties. |
Magnus the Wolf
The Snack Pack
23
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Posted - 2013.10.30 02:06:00 -
[3246] - Quote
WTF did I just watch? I made it through like 6 minutes.
Get people to watch my videos so I get paid more? mothalova you got 60 views, what is that worth? $0.00001? |
Quil Evrything
DUST University
Ivy League
310
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Posted - 2013.10.30 02:12:00 -
[3247] - Quote
I've found the answer, I think.
http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Stacking_Penalties
and also presumably the actual game, applies a function that presumably is supposed to make things easier on the player.
If you have modules of differing power, it applies the penalty to the "smaller" number.
Unfortunately, this is NOT THE SAME THING AS LOWEST META LEVEL.
In other words, for modules that have effects of +10%, +5%... it will apply penalty to "the smallest", ie: 5%.
However, for modules that subtract...
-20%, -15%....
that is "-0.20, -0.15"
-0.20 is the "smaller number". So in this case, the more powerful module, gets penalized!!!
Ugh..
The good news is, you can make the calculator above, give the "right" numbers, by preferencing values with '-'.
So I've updated the wiki instructions.
Summary:
Putting in "20,15" into the wiki page calculator, gives incorrect values.
Putting in "-20,-15" matches game behaviour |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6813
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Posted - 2013.10.30 02:26:00 -
[3248] - Quote
Ghost Kaisar wrote:I do wanna know what music is playing in the background though. Music was sick.
Definitely from a Genesis game. I want to say maybe Shadowrun, but I doubt Thunderbolt would be smart enough to figure that game out either.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1841
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Posted - 2013.10.30 02:27:00 -
[3249] - Quote
The super secret Hater Hideout has been discovered.
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Phazoid
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
89
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Posted - 2013.10.30 02:40:00 -
[3250] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:I do wanna know what music is playing in the background though. Music was sick. Definitely from a Genesis game. I want to say maybe Shadowrun, but I doubt Thunderbolt would be smart enough to figure that game out either.
+1 For awesome signature that made me laugh
Me and my inner demons stopped fighting......We are on the same side now...
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Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
700
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Posted - 2013.10.30 02:59:00 -
[3251] - Quote
Phazoid wrote:Cosgar wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:I do wanna know what music is playing in the background though. Music was sick. Definitely from a Genesis game. I want to say maybe Shadowrun, but I doubt Thunderbolt would be smart enough to figure that game out either. +1 For awesome signature that made me laugh
He does have one of the greatest sigs on the forums. Not gonna lie.
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1842
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Posted - 2013.10.30 03:08:00 -
[3252] - Quote
Good News!
The Uprising Scout is safe from extinction, even if a Respec was offered prior to Dev Hugs :-)
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1443663#post1443663
Long-story-short, we'd lose 10% to 15% of our Brothers; a far lower figure than expected.
Thanks a bunch to all who participated in this little thought experiment.
You guys are inspiring. o7
- Shotty
PS: I wouldn't have switched :-) |
Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
700
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Posted - 2013.10.30 03:12:00 -
[3253] - Quote
Shotty GoBang wrote:Good News! The Uprising Scout is safe from extinction, even if a Respec was offered prior to Dev Hugs :-) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1443663#post1443663Long-story-short, we'd lose 10% to 15% of our Brothers; a far lower figure than expected. Thanks a bunch to all who participated in this little thought experiment. You guys are inspiring. o7 - Shotty PS: I wouldn't have switched :-)
NOW you say that. 
Anyways. If you guys wanna net a free copy of BF4, my friend is doing a twitch stream tonight and is giving away two copies.
LINK
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
297
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Posted - 2013.10.30 03:22:00 -
[3254] - Quote
OZAROW wrote:So anyone happy with this scan stuff cuz honestly I don't think any of it means dik!
No an sg should have been working since forever anyway an just cuz they say it's fixed don't mean it's fixed.
So scouts get 6m more cool for proto gallente scouts but that means u need a percision mod in your only high, a pd in your low, a range or two an get left with one or two slots to decide on, speed ,stamina, armor, reps.
Minja could rok a shield an percision an damage or w/e but your lows you have two slots to decide on range, pd, speed, armor, stamina, reps, or shield regs, hack mod.
Personally if this is their idea of a buff that's crap.
The gallente basically gets a double bonus for range an stealth an minja gets what knives an a weak as$ punch that nobody probably ever uses.
Ccp is s.a.F!
I like the scan increase, would have preferred 20m as a base, but 16m is still a good increase. For me it's useful, though I know not everybody will find it useful. Yes it will benefit Gal scouts more than Min, though I have a Min account as well and i know i was wishing i could see farther on the radar (particularly when hacking) so i still see it as a benefit to all light frames. 10m was not enough to cut a hack short and react properly to threat levels, 16m is better though extending it still seems a necessity, even if it's only the passive from skilling.
Still out on the hit detection fixes though, only way to know is wait and see.
Personally while i like the damage bonus for Minja, I think a hacking bonus would have been better. (or the ability to hack for damage on occupied enemy vehicles for scouts and Minnies getting a bonus to that... then we could call them Scrappers...stuck on this idea) |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1844
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Posted - 2013.10.30 03:33:00 -
[3255] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:More hugs are planned just scheduling is going to coincide with something else related to light suits ...1.6 was meant to be a technical patch, the bandages were at the CPMs request and I'm thankful we go this much.
Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1442557#post1442557 |
LeGoose
SAM-MIK
65
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Posted - 2013.10.30 03:39:00 -
[3256] - Quote
Shotty GoBang wrote:The super secret Hater Hideout has been discovered.
Everybody hide! (Peaks over couch) On this topic I find it completely ridiculous that the first thing he did in the video was resort to petty, personal insults. I mean come on. If you are going to expose us and call us out at least have a semi formulated argument. Oh well it was fun and now we know when he doesn't agree with someone he will just ban them. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1698
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Posted - 2013.10.30 03:51:00 -
[3257] - Quote
Declaration of war
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
683
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Posted - 2013.10.30 04:54:00 -
[3258] - Quote
Shotty GoBang wrote:Good News! The Uprising Scout is safe from extinction, even if a Respec was offered prior to Dev Hugs :-) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1443663#post1443663
Long-story-short, we'd lose 10% to 15% of our Brothers; a far lower figure than expected. The projection will likely lower further once our CQC toys wreck face better. Thanks a bunch to all who participated in this little thought experiment. You guys are inspiring. o7 - Shotty PS: I wouldn't have switched :-)
What the hell is there to switch too?
I like the scout role. What the hell would I do as a medium? It's boring.
When you are a lone scout in enemy territory against 3-4, that gets the heart pumping. Even if they suck they can still kill you, so you have to outsmart and kill them! |
OZAROW
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1000
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Posted - 2013.10.30 06:22:00 -
[3259] - Quote
Logistics with damp mods, speed mods, shields, , persicion an range mods, damage mods, scanner, uplinks, nano hives, remotes, grenades, creodon shotgun.
Hell of a scout an just as squishy |
Phazoid
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
91
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Posted - 2013.10.30 06:38:00 -
[3260] - Quote
i think we should make a bounty on this king thunderbolt, i want to make a comp vid of him getting killed over and over by scouts, and post it everywhere and show that we may me underpowered, but we are "Overskilled" (lol). also i saw the video, who the fuk does that?, so inmature,and that comes from a 19 years old
Me and my inner demons stopped fighting......We are on the same side now...
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1848
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Posted - 2013.10.30 12:54:00 -
[3261] - Quote
This cracked me up...
Chronology:
24 October - CCP ninja'd in a WP limiter to deter boosting/cheating.
24 October - Our very own Marauder was flagged as a "cheater" while spanking legitimately :-)
24 October - Marauder posted his observation, then repeatedly invoked the WP limit :-)
29 October - CCP Eterne weighs in, explaining that a WP softcap had in fact been implemented.
30 October - CCP Greyscale announces that WP softcap ceiling will be raised.
Conclusion:
Marauder is overpowered.
Source:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117199 |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1717
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Posted - 2013.10.30 13:55:00 -
[3262] - Quote
Just watched a trailer for titan fall, damn do I want scouts to move like that.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 1
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Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
705
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Posted - 2013.10.30 15:21:00 -
[3263] - Quote
Shotty GoBang wrote:This cracked me up... Chronology: 24 October - CCP ninja'd in a WP limiter to deter boosting/cheating. 24 October - Our very own Marauder was flagged as a "cheater" while spanking legitimately :-) 24 October - Marauder posted his observation, then repeatedly invoked the WP limit :-) 29 October - CCP Eterne weighs in, explaining that a WP softcap had in fact been implemented. 30 October - CCP Greyscale announces that WP softcap ceiling will be raised. Conclusion: Marauder is overpowered. Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117199
I know, I almost spat up my morning cereal reading this
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
2344
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Posted - 2013.10.30 16:02:00 -
[3264] - Quote
Shotty GoBang wrote:This cracked me up... Chronology: 24 October - CCP ninja'd in a WP limiter to deter boosting/cheating. 24 October - Our very own Marauder was flagged as a "cheater" while spanking legitimately :-) 24 October - Marauder posted his observation, then repeatedly invoked the WP limit :-) 29 October - CCP Eterne weighs in, explaining that a WP softcap had in fact been implemented. 30 October - CCP Greyscale announces that WP softcap ceiling will be raised. Conclusion: Marauder is overpowered. Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117199
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Forum Warrior LV. 2
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Cass Caul
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
197
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Posted - 2013.10.30 16:08:00 -
[3265] - Quote
DJINN Marauder wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:This cracked me up... Chronology: 24 October - CCP ninja'd in a WP limiter to deter boosting/cheating. 24 October - Our very own Marauder was flagged as a "cheater" while spanking legitimately :-) 24 October - Marauder posted his observation, then repeatedly invoked the WP limit :-) 29 October - CCP Eterne weighs in, explaining that a WP softcap had in fact been implemented. 30 October - CCP Greyscale announces that WP softcap ceiling will be raised. Conclusion: Marauder is overpowered. Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117199
A little sad, I have to resort to the mass driver to get number of kills in quick enough succession to hit the cap. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1719
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Posted - 2013.10.30 16:12:00 -
[3266] - Quote
Cass Caul wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:This cracked me up... Chronology: 24 October - CCP ninja'd in a WP limiter to deter boosting/cheating. 24 October - Our very own Marauder was flagged as a "cheater" while spanking legitimately :-) 24 October - Marauder posted his observation, then repeatedly invoked the WP limit :-) 29 October - CCP Eterne weighs in, explaining that a WP softcap had in fact been implemented. 30 October - CCP Greyscale announces that WP softcap ceiling will be raised. Conclusion: Marauder is overpowered. Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117199 A little sad, I have to resort to the mass driver to get number of kills in quick enough succession to hit the cap.
Well then I'm absolutely boned then 
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 1
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
302
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Posted - 2013.10.30 16:25:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Just watched a trailer for titan fall, damn do I want scouts to move like that.
Damn you
Now I want those jumpacks |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1722
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Posted - 2013.10.30 16:34:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Just watched a trailer for titan fall, damn do I want scouts to move like that. Damn you Now I want those jumpacks
I just wanna Minja run across walls and **** lol
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja.
Forum Warrior level 1
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Keeriam Miray
R 0 N 1 N
86
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Posted - 2013.10.30 16:48:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:A little sad, I have to resort to the mass driver to get number of kills in quick enough succession to hit the cap.
i hited cap by destroying instalations :D |
pseudosnipre
DUST University
Ivy League
314
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Posted - 2013.10.30 16:51:00 -
[3270] - Quote
I want to be able to climb walls/towers, but I'll settle for the ability to jump a railing/step over a stair after sprinting. |
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