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Kaeru Nayiri wrote:

Adipem Nothi wrote:

Kaeru Nayiri wrote:

is best done from their flank, not from their back. You want to stab them in the face, literally.

Please explain. Is the back not included in the flank?
How do you strike a merc in the face while behind him?

Perhaps flank is not the correct word, sorry about that. I meant from the side. The back of most sprites keeps the head well protected for some reason (especially heavies).

You rarely need to go through the trouble of getting them in the head. If you have the luxury of choice, making sure you can land a quick second swipe is often easier. However there are instances, for example, if you don't want to use a charged shot because 3 assaults are hacking the objective and you need to kill them quickly, uncharged swipes to the face will kill them. A charged head shot is also capable of killing some heavies on the first strike, which is really nice when the second strike might miss. All in all, this is extra information that might not serve any purpose to most, but there are moments where you can really squeeze some extra utility out of the head shot multiplier on knives. I find it particularly enjoyable and wouldn't have it any other way.

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Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7969	Posted - 2015.03.23 22:04:00 - [32281] - Quote voidfaction wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Minja just seems too non viable, with too many people telling me its fine to hope that it will get fixed. If its combat viability is slumping, the data will show it and Rattati will see it. So Amarr scout buffs should be top priority? Technically speaking the Amarr scout's combat performance is quite good, it's its ewar role that needs a lookover. Or really the role of the Amarr scout in general. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7969	Posted - 2015.03.23 22:15:00 - [32282] - Quote Not a new thought but: Has noone ever questioned the fact that calscouts and Minja have the exact same amount of armor? I can't be the only one who did a double take after noticing that , it's just weird every time I look at it. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 1804	Posted - 2015.03.23 22:20:00 - [32283] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: I don't follow? With the precision you pick em up before or as they pick you up, and this has more tank than any scout even with no HP mods on it, so good survivability for something with so much alpha. On passive scans, that's true, yes. What happens when you encounter someone using an active scanner? Most likely I get scanned if they've broken out the good stuff. Depends on the scanner, but I run around in pubs only so lol ;-) 3 cPDs I'm down to 20.38 according protofits, and 4 I'm just under 19. What's the best active scanner on a GalLogi scan at again? 18 dB? Coz that fit I guess ain't valid in PC if it simply can't get under it...I'm assuming that's where you're coming from.
voidfaction Nos Nothi 1380	Posted - 2015.03.23 22:26:00 - [32284] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: I don't follow? With the precision you pick em up before or as they pick you up, and this has more tank than any scout even with no HP mods on it, so good survivability for something with so much alpha. On passive scans, that's true, yes. What happens when you encounter someone using an active scanner? Most likely I get scanned if they've broken out the good stuff. Depends on the scanner, but I run around in pubs only so lol ;-) 3 cPDs I'm down to 20.38 according protofits, and 4 I'm just under 19. What's the best active scanner on a GalLogi scan at again? 18 dB? Coz that fit I guess ain't valid in PC if it simply can't get under it...I'm assuming that's where you're coming from. gal logi proto scan 21db gal logi focused 15db I run 2 flux scanners often in pubs on my gal logi lvl 4 for 22db scans i think it is. would run 3 but I really like my cloak. noi¦Ü+ö+Æßû+(V)Fac¦Üion
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8777	Posted - 2015.03.23 22:27:00 - [32285] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: I don't follow? With the precision you pick em up before or as they pick you up, and this has more tank than any scout even with no HP mods on it, so good survivability for something with so much alpha. On passive scans, that's true, yes. What happens when you encounter someone using an active scanner? Most likely I get scanned if they've broken out the good stuff. Depends on the scanner, but I run around in pubs only so lol ;-) 3 cPDs I'm down to 20.38 according protofits, and 4 I'm just under 19. What's the best active scanner on a GalLogi scan at again? 18 dB? Coz that fit I guess ain't valid in PC if it simply can't get under it...I'm assuming that's where you're coming from. They get 15 dB. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
voidfaction Nos Nothi 1380	Posted - 2015.03.23 22:32:00 - [32286] - Quote 20db profile is the sweet spot. less than thay you gimp yourself to much more than that then I think your better off running an assault. noi¦Ü+ö+Æßû+(V)Fac¦Üion
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8242	Posted - 2015.03.23 23:02:00 - [32287] - Quote voidfaction wrote: 20db profile is the sweet spot. less than thay you gimp yourself to much more than that then I think your better off running an assault. ^ Agreed. GalLogis get more utility out of the 28dB scanners (21dB) than the slow-cycling 15dB Duvolle Focused. Unless you're up against a scannerina or playing PC, the odds of getting pinged by 15dB scans are relatively low. So like Void said, a scan profile of 20dB is the sweet spot. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
XxBlazikenxX Y.A.M.A.H 583	Posted - 2015.03.24 00:18:00 - [32288] - Quote Radec fett wrote: Rattati said awhile ago he was going to lessen the penalties of the cloak, but it never happened... Anyone know what happened? He's probably focused on tweaking Hotfix Echo right now. Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H Recruitment, Free BPOs!
LeGoose SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 860	Posted - 2015.03.24 00:52:00 - [32289] - Quote I responded to some things downstairs. Feels weird for me to be contributing a relativeky large amount at once. I'm gonna go steal monks hammock and hang it up in my corner to quietly observe some more. Click it! I dare you...
XxBlazikenxX Y.A.M.A.H 583	Posted - 2015.03.24 01:05:00 - [32290] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: So I went out in my Heavy Scout the other day (Gal Assault) Too slow. So I changed it up, sac'ed some more EWAR for a third kincat. Ohhh **** yeah now we're cooking. On paper I look at this thing and it beats any which way of fitting a min scout you care to conceive, short of it won't do knives like a Minja can. Which is ultra-situational. And I sighed a sad sigh. I think my Min Scout may be going toward the dustbin. The one that takes metal recyclables. Anyway, next up, again in line with my going back to my shotgun roots, I present to you, the Heavy Scout in action: http://youtu.be/kCRUhE-Yu5U Unedited vid again, I apologise. I am in a similar boat. I have both a Level 3 MinAss and just skilled into Gal Scout. Minja just seems too non viable, with too many people telling me its fine to hope that it will get fixed. Minja?! Unnviable?! Never, it just requires a certain skill set is all. Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H Recruitment, Free BPOs!

XxBlazikenxX Y.A.M.A.H 583	Posted - 2015.03.24 01:06:00 - [32291] - Quote voidfaction wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Minja just seems too non viable, with too many people telling me its fine to hope that it will get fixed. If its combat viability is slumping, the data will show it and Rattati will see it. So Amarr scout buffs should be top priority? Yes please. If it were to get a change, a biotics bonus would be nice. Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H Recruitment, Free BPOs!
FLAYLOCK Steve Nos Nothi 620	Posted - 2015.03.24 04:03:00 - [32292] - Quote Honestly I used to think of the minja wasn't good. But now I'm actually trying to play as a scout. NK+minja is beast. Lately all my kills are by nk.
mollerz 6279	Posted - 2015.03.24 05:02:00 - [32293] - Quote FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Honestly I used to think of the minja wasn't good. But now I'm actually trying to play as a scout. NK+minja is beast. Lately all my kills are by nk.
Haerr Nos Nothi 2598	Posted - 2015.03.24 15:32:00 - [32294] - Quote I've changed my mind... Coordinated AV is annoying to deal with while in a Soma so if CCP could nerf teamwork by reducing the squad size to 4, or even better yet to 1~2 players, that'd be just grand...
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8256	Posted - 2015.03.24 16:04:00 - [32295] - Quote Haerr wrote: I've changed my mind... Coordinated AV is annoying to deal with while in a Soma so if CCP could nerf teamwork by reducing the squad size to 4, or even better yet to 1~2 players, that'd be just grand... Snarky! But now I'm confused. HAVs too strong? AV too weak? In favor of 4-man squad? Opposed to 4-man squad? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Kaeru Nayiri Ready to Play 782	Posted - 2015.03.24 16:50:00 - [32296] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Kaeru Nayiri wrote: is best done from their flank, not from their back. You want to stab them in the face, literally. Please explain. Is the back not included in the flank? How do you strike a merc in the face while behind him? Perhaps flank is not the correct word, sorry about that. I meant from the side. The back of most sprites keeps the head well protected for some reason (especially heavies). You rarely need to go through the trouble of getting them in the head. If you have the luxury of choice, making sure you can land a quick second swipe is often easier. However there are instances, for example, if you don't want to use a charged shot because 3 assaults are hacking the objective and you need to kill them quickly, uncharged swipes to the face will kill them. A charged head shot is also capable of killing some heavies on the first strike, which is really nice when the second strike might miss. All in all, this is extra information that might not serve any purpose to most, but there are moments where you can really squeeze some extra utility out of the head shot multiplier on knives. I find it particularly enjoyable and wouldn't have it any other way. Haerr wrote: I've changed my mind... Coordinated AV is annoying to deal with while in a Soma so if CCP could nerf teamwork by reducing the squad size to 4, or even better yet to 1~2 players, that'd be just grand... Hi Haerr ! I was flying my incubus on your team for a few matches while you were testing that soma :D! Good games ! Know what cannot be known.
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7977	Posted - 2015.03.24 17:01:00 - [32297] - Quote Playing on a new(ish) alt I haven't touched in a while, as I hit the deployment I've suddenly realized how completely and utterly ****** I am... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7979	Posted - 2015.03.24 17:17:00 - [32298] - Quote 6th place 4killed (2 proto) 5 deaths (All BS or flank) I AM SUPER CALDARI LIGHT frame NOOB, FEAR ME STOMPERS! Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
Haerr Nos Nothi 2600	Posted - 2015.03.24 17:18:00 - [32299] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Haerr wrote: I've changed my mind... Coordinated AV is annoying to deal with while in a Soma so if CCP could nerf teamwork by reducing the squad size to 4, or even better yet to 1~2 players, that'd be just grand... Snarky! But now I'm confused. I hadn't realized that you were opposed 4-man squads. Or are you saying HAVs are too strong and/or AV is too weak? I'd prefer 16-man squads, or team deploy, or platoons or what ever you want to call it. If the standard was to play as a team, instead of solo squads, this game would be a lot more fun. Tired of being told HAVs are OP while they are easily blown up, simply because people aren't killing decently fit HAVs by randomly standing in the middle of the street with a swarm launcher any more.
Dreis Shadowweaver Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 2309	Posted - 2015.03.24 17:20:00 - [32300] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: 5 deaths (All BS or flank) All deaths are legit, except spawn-kills, lag, and accidental TK's. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 Dreis is the king of knives - VAHZZ

Haerr Nos Nothi 2600	Posted - 2015.03.24 17:21:00 - [32301] - Quote Kaeru Nayiri wrote: Hi Haerr ! I was flying my incubus on your team for a few matches while you were testing that soma :D! Good games ! My Soma is OP, fear me!
Dreis Shadowweaver Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 2309	Posted - 2015.03.24 17:23:00 - [32302] - Quote Haerr wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Haerr wrote: I've changed my mind... Coordinated AV is annoying to deal with while in a Soma so if CCP could nerf teamwork by reducing the squad size to 4, or even better yet to 1~2 players, that'd be just grand... Snarky! But now I'm confused. I hadn't realized that you were opposed 4-man squads. Or are you saying HAVs are too strong and/or AV is too weak? I'd prefer 16-man squads, or team deploy, or platoons or what ever you want to call it. If the standard was to play as a team, instead of solo squads, this game would be a lot unbalanced and stompy. FTFY I sincerely hope you're talking about FW and PC, not pubs. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 Dreis is the king of knives - VAHZZ
Haerr Nos Nothi 2600	Posted - 2015.03.24 17:24:00 - [32303] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: voidfaction wrote: 20db profile is the sweet spot. less than thay you gimp yourself to much more than that then I think your better off running an assault. ^ Agreed. GalLogis get more utility out of the 28dB scanners (21dB) than the slow-cycling 15dB Duvolle Focused. Unless you're up against a scannerina or playing PC, the odds of getting pinged by 15dB scans are relatively low. So like Void said, a scan profile of 20dB is the sweet spot. 3x PRO Flux scans on a GalLogi is pretty neat!
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1348	Posted - 2015.03.24 17:27:00 - [32304] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: 5 deaths (All BS or flank) All deaths are legit, except spawn-kills, lag, and accidental TK's. Spawn kills might be frustrating but it's pretty legit in my books. Selecting where to spawn is more important than many realize. Overlord of Broman
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7979	Posted - 2015.03.24 17:33:00 - [32305] - Quote OK either caldari light and rail/masec is a really good combination or these people suck at FPS. I'm using basic and militia modules/weapons on advanced(basic) suit and wining engagements... What's gonna happen when I use the assault rail and bolt pistol? Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
Dreis Shadowweaver Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 2310	Posted - 2015.03.24 17:40:00 - [32306] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: 5 deaths (All BS or flank) All deaths are legit, except spawn-kills, lag, and accidental TK's. Spawn kills might be frustrating but it's pretty legit in my books. Selecting where to spawn is more important than many realize. What about a guy that puts an RE on a link that he detonates when you spawn? There's no way you could have known, and as such, I don't think it's a legit death. But yeah, I can agree with you if you get killed when you spawn on the only blue CRU on the map that's close to the enemy's redline. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 Dreis is the king of knives - VAHZZ
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1350	Posted - 2015.03.24 17:47:00 - [32307] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: 5 deaths (All BS or flank) All deaths are legit, except spawn-kills, lag, and accidental TK's. Spawn kills might be frustrating but it's pretty legit in my books. Selecting where to spawn is more important than many realize. What about a guy that puts an RE on a link that he detonates when you spawn? There's no way you could have known, and as such, I don't think it's a legit death. But yeah, I can agree with you if you get killed when you spawn on the only blue CRU on the map that's close to the enemy's redline. Spawn deaths make me rage like many others. However, i think it's an important part of the game, knowing where is a good point to spawn.... we've all spawned in and thought to your self "maybe this is a bad idea..." but we do it anyway to get the area we want to be in or get back to the action quickly. Spend a bit of time, watch to see if other blues spawn in and vanish, really taking a few seconds can tell you a lot (not that i do that much, i'm a bit to eager to get back to the action usually). As for the RE on the spawn uplink, as much as it's frustrating i much prefer that use of an RE then a frisbee being tossed at me and blowing me to bits because you can't get out of range in time. Overlord of Broman
Kaeru Nayiri Ready to Play 783	Posted - 2015.03.24 17:47:00 - [32308] - Quote Haerr wrote: [...] Tired of being told HAVs are OP [...] Haerr wrote: My Soma is OP, fear me! Hahhaahaaaa XD!!! LOL I'll be sure to send you a squad invite next time !! I focus on AV in my incubus, almost strictly with a side gunner. Know what cannot be known.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 8260	Posted - 2015.03.24 18:00:00 - [32309] - Quote Haerr wrote: Tired of being told HAVs are OP while they are easily blown up, simply because people aren't killing decently fit HAVs by randomly standing in the middle of the street with a swarm launcher any more. Gotcha. Spec'd out of Swarms and PLCs; haven't had opportunity to test anything other than Lai Dais. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 1810	Posted - 2015.03.24 18:03:00 - [32310] - Quote Kaeru Nayiri wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Kaeru Nayiri wrote: is best done from their flank, not from their back. You want to stab them in the face, literally. Please explain. Is the back not included in the flank? How do you strike a merc in the face while behind him? Perhaps flank is not the correct word, sorry about that. I meant from the side. The back of most sprites keeps the head well protected for some reason (especially heavies). You rarely need to go through the trouble of getting them in the head. If you have the luxury of choice, making sure you can land a quick second swipe is often easier. However there are instances, for example, if you don't want to use a charged shot because 3 assaults are hacking the objective and you need to kill them quickly, uncharged swipes to the face will kill them. A charged head shot is also capable of killing some heavies on the first strike, which is really nice when the second strike might miss. All in all, this is extra information that might not serve any purpose to most, but there are moments where you can really squeeze some extra utility out of the head shot multiplier on knives. I find it particularly enjoyable and wouldn't have it any other way. i saw flank and thought from the side. its all good. for me all this extra information is awesome...for instance when i see 2 or more reds hacking a point i am charging up for the double kill and purely concentrating on landing both blades in the first place. i also assume that the first attack is free so why not charge em. headshots i dont think about but now i think i wil esp. when thereGÇÖs heavys involved. what adipem said about observing mr musturd i have also taken on board. its always been about the charge for me up to this point but actually there's more. perhaps charging versus quicker slashing and thrashing is akin to ADS versus hip firing with a gun. might be time for a minja video...anything i can learn to make my fave suit and style more useful...and ive been having an identity crisis recently and mixing up all sorts of suits in the same games etc. ps. if you are watching the vids...lemme know how much editing them would help...do you watch em all the way, fast forward, or switch off after a while? ps. Kaeru you came 2nd in the knife competition. your input is valuable!!



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