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Jebus McKing wrote:

Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

I am hoping I will finally have an excuse to use the beautiful sleek black basic frames.

They changed those. They look awkward now. Sad

Adipem Nothi wrote:

Another idea ... I'm sure something like it has already been suggested:

Basic Med Frame
* -1 to 2 Slot
* +1 EQ
* 50% Isk Discount

Basic Heavy Frame
* -1 Slot
* +1 EQ
* 50% Isk Discount

Basic Light Frame
* +1 to 2 Slot
* -1 EQ
* 50% Isk Discount

+1 EQ for Assault might appeal to Assault users who don't like their current racial bonuses. EQ on a Heavy could certainly come in handy. Scouts were assigned a 2nd EQ slot to fit cloak, but they can't fit cloak until they specialize; so why not drop the specialization slot, and add a utility slot or two?

Basic Med Frames already have 1 less slot and 100hp less than Assaults. I think giving them a second EQ would be good to give them a small niche right in the middle between Assault and Logi.

I have no idea what to do with Heavy and Light Basic Frames. I can't really think of a niche where they could fit in. Light frames being Light Assaults with additional slots in exchange for EQ? Dunno.

Heavies with EQ AND heavy weapon slot sounds weird too. Plus, they already have less HP than Sentinels, no resistances, and one less slot would hit them very hard me thinks.

But I think making all Basic suits 50% cheaper than their specialized variant makes sense. Currently only the proto variant has a 40% discount. But that alone won't make anyone consider using them.

Like I said, if we want people to use Basic suits then they have to have a role.

Same issue as with the AM Scout. Oh, btw, did you know that the AM Light Basic frame is faster than the AM Scout?

EDIT: Another idea would be to reduce the skill multiplier for Basic frames to make them the quickest way to get into a cheap proto suit and suck less.

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CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 18154	Posted - 2015.03.07 03:48:00 - [30631] - Quote Bayeth Mal wrote: The buff to basic mediums my be the first part of the buff to Assaults in general. I for one am kinda pissed off they're doing this, other wise I wouldn't have wasted the millions of SP to unlock Gallente Assault (which I run an ARR on...) and instead would've just specced the basic frame. Nope. Also, I have countless threads and requests for this, why the aggravation? "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7348	Posted - 2015.03.07 04:25:00 - [30632] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Bayeth Mal wrote: The buff to basic mediums my be the first part of the buff to Assaults in general. I for one am kinda pissed off they're doing this, other wise I wouldn't have wasted the millions of SP to unlock Gallente Assault (which I run an ARR on...) and instead would've just specced the basic frame. Nope. Also, I have countless threads and requests for this, why the aggravation? Unknown. Bay, Jebus? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Bayeth Mal Nos Nothi 2449	Posted - 2015.03.07 05:15:00 - [30633] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Bayeth Mal wrote: The buff to basic mediums my be the first part of the buff to Assaults in general. I for one am kinda pissed off they're doing this, other wise I wouldn't have wasted the millions of SP to unlock Gallente Assault (which I run an ARR on...) and instead would've just specced the basic frame. Nope. Also, I have countless threads and requests for this, why the aggravation? Mistake on my part, I didn't realise the medium frame had less slots than the assault. But... then why buff it for fitting? It's still an inferior suit and is still better off skipped taking to proto in the long run. We'll bang, OK?
Jaceon Pale-eye Nos Nothi 154	Posted - 2015.03.07 05:16:00 - [30634] - Quote For immersion's sake, can I get an official reply as to whether or not it would be possible for a Thukker to shave by passing fully charged nova knives close over his skin and singing the stubble away with the crackling ribbons of plasma arcing along the edge of the blades? TIA Stab all the things.
Greiv Rabbah M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command Lokun Listamenn 168	Posted - 2015.03.07 06:02:00 - [30635] - Quote Jaceon Pale-eye wrote: For immersion's sake, can I get an official reply as to whether or not it would be possible for a Thukker to shave by passing fully charged nova knives close over his skin and singing the stubble away with the crackling ribbons of plasma arcing along the edge of the blades? TIA How close is close? 1ft? 2ft? The answer is yes, assuming super soldier clones don't have super durable hair. If so, maybe 6in... 4 in? Might singe, you okay with mild burns? You won't feel it much... Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 22513	Posted - 2015.03.07 07:51:00 - [30636] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Bayeth Mal wrote: The buff to basic mediums my be the first part of the buff to Assaults in general. I for one am kinda pissed off they're doing this, other wise I wouldn't have wasted the millions of SP to unlock Gallente Assault (which I run an ARR on...) and instead would've just specced the basic frame. Nope. Also, I have countless threads and requests for this, why the aggravation? It's probably the general annoyance that you get for -just- missing out on something. I got similarly aggravated when I bought a vet pack the day before they went 50% off. Gallente Guide
Jebus McKing Nos Nothi 1647	Posted - 2015.03.07 09:45:00 - [30637] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Bayeth Mal wrote: The buff to basic mediums my be the first part of the buff to Assaults in general. I for one am kinda pissed off they're doing this, other wise I wouldn't have wasted the millions of SP to unlock Gallente Assault (which I run an ARR on...) and instead would've just specced the basic frame. Nope. Also, I have countless threads and requests for this, why the aggravation? IMO the problem is that Basic Medium Frames and Assaults are too similar. If you buff BMFs to a point where even a vet would begin to consider using them then people get mad because they could've saved the SP for the Assault suit and gone with the BMF instead. But if BMFs remain worse than Assaults then still no one will advise anyone to spend a million SP to go from lvl 3 to 5 in BMF. Basic Frames in general make people spend SP in something they don't really want to use. They want to use the Assault/Logi/Scout/Sentinel but are forced to spend thousands of SP for a suit they will rarely use and that is worse in everything a specialised suit could do. I think a lot of the bad feelings towards Basic Frames comes from that. So either Basic Frames get a role of their own or they will remain nothing more but an annoying obstacle on the way to the specialised suits. Jebus hates scans.
Flint Beastgood III Dead Man's Game RUST415 1466	Posted - 2015.03.07 11:40:00 - [30638] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: Basic Frames in general make people spend SP in something they don't really want to use. They want to use the Assault/Logi/Scout/Sentinel but are forced to spend thousands of SP for a suit they will rarely use and that is worse in everything a specialised suit could do. I think a lot of the bad feelings towards Basic Frames comes from that. So either Basic Frames get a role of their own or they will remain nothing more but an annoying obstacle on the way to the specialised suits. This, pretty much. Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7349	Posted - 2015.03.07 11:54:00 - [30639] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: So either Basic Frames get a role of their own or they will remain nothing more but an annoying obstacle on the way to the specialised suits. What if basic frames were made dirt cheap? Same slot layouts, but say 1/2 to 1/3 the price? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Jebus McKing Nos Nothi 1649	Posted - 2015.03.07 12:03:00 - [30640] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Jebus McKing wrote: So either Basic Frames get a role of their own or they will remain nothing more but an annoying obstacle on the way to the specialised suits. What if basic frames were made dirt cheap? Same slot layouts, but say 1/2 to 1/3 the price? A proto basic medium frame already costs only 34k ISK. Proto Assault costs 57k ISK. Doesn't seem to be that big of an incentive (or people just don't know about it... ) Jebus hates scans.

Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7349	Posted - 2015.03.07 12:15:00 - [30641] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Jebus McKing wrote: So either Basic Frames get a role of their own or they will remain nothing more but an annoying obstacle on the way to the specialised suits. What if basic frames were made dirt cheap? Same slot layouts, but say 1/2 to 1/3 the price? A proto basic medium frame already costs only 34k ISK. Proto Assault costs 57k ISK. Doesn't seem to be that big of an incentive (or people just don't know about it... ) Hmmm; I'd forgotten that they were already cheaper. That's roughly a 40% discount. Say it cost 19k (66% discount). Do you think folks might run one then? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7349	Posted - 2015.03.07 12:20:00 - [30642] - Quote Another idea ... I'm sure something like it has already been suggested: Basic Med Frame * -1 to 2 Slot * +1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount Basic Heavy Frame * -1 Slot * +1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount Basic Light Frame * +1 to 2 Slot * -1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount +1 EQ for Assault might appeal to Assault users who don't like their current racial bonuses. EQ on a Heavy could certainly come in handy. Scouts were assigned a 2nd EQ slot to fit cloak, but they can't fit cloak until they specialize; so why not drop the specialization slot, and add a utility slot or two? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
voidfaction Nos Nothi 1266	Posted - 2015.03.07 12:36:00 - [30643] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Another idea ... I'm sure something like it has already been suggested: Basic Med Frame * -1 to 2 Slot * +1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount Basic Heavy Frame * -1 Slot * +1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount Basic Light Frame * +1 to 2 Slot * -1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount +1 EQ for Assault might appeal to Assault users who don't like their current racial bonuses. EQ on a Heavy could certainly come in handy. Scouts were assigned a 2nd EQ slot to fit cloak, but they can't fit cloak until they specialize; so why not drop the specialization slot, and add a utility slot or two? I would want 2eq slots on light frame because like my scout I still consider light frames recon and 2 scanners are better than 1 noi¦Ü+ö+Æßû+(V)Faction
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 1553	Posted - 2015.03.07 13:21:00 - [30644] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Stuff about jump distance versus jump height physics. They both gotta be exactly the same thing. If you jump whilst stationary (distance), you jump straight up (height). If you jump whilst moving (distance), you jump up (height) and move at the same time. You jump further when running. You jump further when fitting kincats and running, due to higher speed. Nothing to do with jumping values. When in the air, stamina is not used, nor does it replenish I don't think (maybe it does if you are in the air long enough, never thought to take note) You fit a mod that increases jump height, then you modify........... Hmmm ok so, would you jump further (distance)? Or just jump heigher, whilst covering the same amount of ground? Is this your point? Am I being dense and had to think it through to geddit? lol But then, if you jumped higher and only covered the same amount of ground, your jump angle would be different. Screw it I don't care I'm gonna have fun with it whenver echo rolls around. One thing I do wonder though - will higher jumps use more stamina? [edit] If it's the same as kincats sprint increase, then no it won't Bottom line - I really hope this doesn't get silly. Frogger is for crossing the road.
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 1553	Posted - 2015.03.07 13:28:00 - [30645] - Quote What I really came in here for. 3m SP burnt a hole into my pocket. It landed in MinMando, mass driver and schwarmas. Wow this is fun. Then again most new styles are until they wear off. Anyway this thing is hilarious in Domination. The mass driver is nice and easier to use than the plasma cannon, but I can't help thinking I should fit a PLC with the schwarmas to hit the shields followed by armor-profile schwarmas. As it is it still doesn't have enough DPS to take down a well-fitted tank or ADS quickly enough. But the PLC is so hard to use against infantry........ Next up once saved enough SP - I think I might try flaylock on the minmando. Tried it on an alt and it's kinda fun. But 2x complex light damage mods won't be as useful........hmmm decisions decisions.
Jebus McKing Nos Nothi 1650	Posted - 2015.03.07 13:36:00 - [30646] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I am hoping I will finally have an excuse to use the beautiful sleek black basic frames. They changed those. They look awkward now. Adipem Nothi wrote: Another idea ... I'm sure something like it has already been suggested: Basic Med Frame * -1 to 2 Slot * +1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount Basic Heavy Frame * -1 Slot * +1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount Basic Light Frame * +1 to 2 Slot * -1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount +1 EQ for Assault might appeal to Assault users who don't like their current racial bonuses. EQ on a Heavy could certainly come in handy. Scouts were assigned a 2nd EQ slot to fit cloak, but they can't fit cloak until they specialize; so why not drop the specialization slot, and add a utility slot or two? Basic Med Frames already have 1 less slot and 100hp less than Assaults. I think giving them a second EQ would be good to give them a small niche right in the middle between Assault and Logi. I have no idea what to do with Heavy and Light Basic Frames. I can't really think of a niche where they could fit in. Light frames being Light Assaults with additional slots in exchange for EQ? Dunno. Heavies with EQ AND heavy weapon slot sounds weird too. Plus, they already have less HP than Sentinels, no resistances, and one less slot would hit them very hard me thinks. But I think making all Basic suits 50% cheaper than their specialized variant makes sense. Currently only the proto variant has a 40% discount. But that alone won't make anyone consider using them. Like I said, if we want people to use Basic suits then they have to have a role. Same issue as with the AM Scout. Oh, btw, did you know that the AM Light Basic frame is faster than the AM Scout? Jebus hates scans.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7351	Posted - 2015.03.07 13:44:00 - [30647] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: But I think making all Basic suits 50% cheaper than their specialized variant makes sense. Currently only the proto variant has a 40% discount. But that alone won't make anyone consider using them. Another idea would be to reduce the skill multiplier for Basic frames to make them the quickest way to get into a cheap proto suit and suck less. Agreed and agreed. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Greiv Rabbah M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command Lokun Listamenn 169	Posted - 2015.03.07 14:19:00 - [30648] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Jebus McKing wrote: So either Basic Frames get a role of their own or they will remain nothing more but an annoying obstacle on the way to the specialised suits. What if basic frames were made dirt cheap? Same slot layouts, but say 1/2 to 1/3 the price? A proto basic medium frame already costs only 34k ISK. Proto Assault costs 57k ISK. Doesn't seem to be that big of an incentive (or people just don't know about it... ) I don't play mediums, but BLF used to cost the exact same or more than scouts of similar load out capacity if not level. I had considered light frames a bit but no incentives, yes drawbacks, made me change my tune quick Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
voidfaction Nos Nothi 1267	Posted - 2015.03.07 14:43:00 - [30649] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I am hoping I will finally have an excuse to use the beautiful sleek black basic frames. They changed those. They look awkward now. Adipem Nothi wrote: Another idea ... I'm sure something like it has already been suggested: Basic Med Frame * -1 to 2 Slot * +1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount Basic Heavy Frame * -1 Slot * +1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount Basic Light Frame * +1 to 2 Slot * -1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount +1 EQ for Assault might appeal to Assault users who don't like their current racial bonuses. EQ on a Heavy could certainly come in handy. Scouts were assigned a 2nd EQ slot to fit cloak, but they can't fit cloak until they specialize; so why not drop the specialization slot, and add a utility slot or two? Basic Med Frames already have 1 less slot and 100hp less than Assaults. I think giving them a second EQ would be good to give them a small niche right in the middle between Assault and Logi. I have no idea what to do with Heavy and Light Basic Frames. I can't really think of a niche where they could fit in. Light frames being Light Assaults with additional slots in exchange for EQ? Dunno. Heavies with EQ AND heavy weapon slot sounds weird too. Plus, they already have less HP than Sentinels, no resistances, and one less slot would hit them very hard me thinks. But I think making all Basic suits 50% cheaper than their specialized variant makes sense. Currently only the proto variant has a 40% discount. But that alone won't make anyone consider using them. Like I said, if we want people to use Basic suits then they have to have a role. Same issue as with the AM Scout. Oh, btw, did you know that the AM Light Basic frame is faster than the AM Scout? EDIT: Another idea would be to reduce the skill multiplier for Basic frames to make them the quickest way to get into a cheap proto suit and suck less. I would use a proto basic on my non cloak fitting if it cost the same as an advanced racial. other than that it would not be worth using. noi¦Ü+ö+Æßû+(V)Faction
The-Errorist 1081	Posted - 2015.03.07 14:49:00 - [30650] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Bayeth Mal wrote: The buff to basic mediums my be the first part of the buff to Assaults in general. I for one am kinda pissed off they're doing this, other wise I wouldn't have wasted the millions of SP to unlock Gallente Assault (which I run an ARR on...) and instead would've just specced the basic frame. Nope. Also, I have countless threads and requests for this, why the aggravation? He specced into the Gal assault for extra PG/CPU to fit light weapons and if you give basic medium frames that, it would be like he wasted tons of SP, since basic medium frames would be the better choice for what he wanted. Suits, Tanks, a mode

Llast 326 An Arkhos 6912	Posted - 2015.03.07 16:44:00 - [30651] - Quote Ahh the 5 Millon Clone ChallengeGÇª Everybody goes crazy and the meta is a bitGÇª strange Story Time DominationGÇª Fractured Road Match has gone absolutely crazy. Nobody has held the objective long enough for the MCC to be more than a tick off from each other and it is coming down to less than 1/3 of the last bars on both. I hit the drive through socket with the CRU. Hack it See another Minja coming to get me. He just spawned before I got the hack complete. Knives out for both of us Dance Cut +50 I run into the building Another MInja we run at each other He starts a leap I diagonal slash +50 Spin back to the wall See a Gal Scout with a SG coming at me Switch to Breach Flaylock +50 Pretty sure when I sprinted out of that place it was a Sprint Strut as only a Minja can do MOAR Ladders
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1246	Posted - 2015.03.07 16:55:00 - [30652] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Another idea ... I'm sure something like it has already been suggested: Basic Med Frame * -1 to 2 Slot * +1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount Basic Heavy Frame * -1 Slot * +1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount Basic Light Frame * +1 to 2 Slot * -1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount +1 EQ for Assault might appeal to Assault users who don't like their current racial bonuses. EQ on a Heavy could certainly come in handy. Scouts were assigned a 2nd EQ slot to fit cloak, but they can't fit cloak until they specialize; so why not drop the specialization slot, and add a utility slot or two? This is a bad idea. Equipment on a heavy?! Prefer them left eith none. Overlord of Broman
Llast 326 An Arkhos 6912	Posted - 2015.03.07 16:56:00 - [30653] - Quote DPLAKGÇª Blocked by Ares Well played good sir What is better choice for my Bastard Barge? Should I upgrade my Component manufacturing to level 2, or upgrade the Bastard Barge systems to level 4 next? Note that I am not able to log in for three days a weekGÇª so I lose a days worth of Components. So is going up to 300/day a benefit to getting lvl 5 on BB sooner, or should I just keep saving until I have 5 and level up the subsystems after? Thoughts? Maths? MOAR Ladders
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7355	Posted - 2015.03.07 17:37:00 - [30654] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Thoughts? Maths? Even if you can't login frequently, I think it still makes most sense to focus primarily on your mobile factory. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7355	Posted - 2015.03.07 17:40:00 - [30655] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: +1 EQ for Assault might appeal to Assault users who don't like their current racial bonuses. EQ on a Heavy could certainly come in handy. Scouts were assigned a 2nd EQ slot to fit cloak, but they can't fit cloak until they specialize; so why not drop the specialization slot, and add a utility slot or two? This is a bad idea. Equipment on a heavy?! Prefer them left eith none. Fair point. Something else for the basic heavy frame. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Llast 326 An Arkhos 6915	Posted - 2015.03.07 18:22:00 - [30656] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Ares 514 wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: +1 EQ for Assault might appeal to Assault users who don't like their current racial bonuses. EQ on a Heavy could certainly come in handy. Scouts were assigned a 2nd EQ slot to fit cloak, but they can't fit cloak until they specialize; so why not drop the specialization slot, and add a utility slot or two? This is a bad idea. Equipment on a heavy?! Prefer them left eith none. Fair point. Something else for the basic heavy frame. I would be okay with Heavy Frame being the partial ground between Commando and Sentinel. Light Weapon Sidearm EQ slot Grenade Remains slow. Sentinel dominates the Heavy Weapon, and has Resistances but drops the EQ Commando path focuses on the Light Weapon progression and DPS, slight speed increase, but drops the Grenade MOAR Ladders
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game RUST415 645	Posted - 2015.03.07 20:36:00 - [30657] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Another idea ... I'm sure something like it has already been suggested: Basic Med Frame * -1 Slot * +1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount Basic Heavy Frame * -1 Slot * +1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount Basic Light Frame * +1 Slot * -1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount +1 EQ for Assault might appeal to Assault users who don't like their current racial bonuses. EQ on a Heavy could certainly come in handy. Scouts were assigned a 2nd EQ slot to fit cloak, but they can't fit cloak until they specialize; so why not drop the specialization slot and add a utility slot? Yes! Maybe tweaks here and there, but basically, CCP, make it so.
Spademan Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 6028	Posted - 2015.03.07 22:58:00 - [30658] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: DPLAKGÇª Blocked by Ares Well played good sir What is better choice for my Bastard Barge? Should I upgrade my Component manufacturing to level 2, or upgrade the Bastard Barge systems to level 4 next? Note that I am not able to log in for three days a weekGÇª so I lose a days worth of Components. So is going up to 300/day a benefit to getting lvl 5 on BB sooner, or should I just keep saving until I have 5 and level up the subsystems after? Thoughts? Maths? You just reminded me warbarges exist. I should take a look at mine... Seriously something as simple as a thingy in the updates thingy would be great for getting to the thingy. What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 6919	Posted - 2015.03.07 23:28:00 - [30659] - Quote Spademan wrote: Llast 326 wrote: DPLAKGÇª Blocked by Ares Well played good sir What is better choice for my Bastard Barge? Should I upgrade my Component manufacturing to level 2, or upgrade the Bastard Barge systems to level 4 next? Note that I am not able to log in for three days a weekGÇª so I lose a days worth of Components. So is going up to 300/day a benefit to getting lvl 5 on BB sooner, or should I just keep saving until I have 5 and level up the subsystems after? Thoughts? Maths? You just reminded me warbarges exist. I should take a look at mine... Seriously something as simple as a thingy in the updates thingy would be great for getting to the thingy. New sig for you spade Also good use of thing in this post MOAR Ladders SpadeGÇª Remember your Warbarge
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge VP Gaming Alliance 1027	Posted - 2015.03.07 23:35:00 - [30660] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Another idea ... I'm sure something like it has already been suggested: Basic Med Frame * -1 to 2 Slot * +1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount Basic Heavy Frame * -1 Slot * +1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount Basic Light Frame * +1 to 2 Slot * -1 EQ * 50% Isk Discount +1 EQ for Assault might appeal to Assault users who don't like their current racial bonuses. EQ on a Heavy could certainly come in handy. Scouts were assigned a 2nd EQ slot to fit cloak, but they can't fit cloak until they specialize; so why not drop the specialization slot, and add a utility slot or two? This is a bad idea. Equipment on a heavy?! Prefer them left eith none. Basic heavies could be much faster breaching the gap between assault and heavy(adjust hp and slots accordingly) Basic med could get plus one equipment and a solid portion of CPU/PG for said equiptment breaching the gap between logi and assault (now you have your slayer logi) Basic light could lose 1 equiptment to gain a slot or two to breach he gap between scout and assault. Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.



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