If they haven't addressed the problem of range, then the HMG is still broken.

The stats make it a lumbering bruiser now, dying at long range. Which is probably the only role for heavy that's actually balanced and still fun to play. (Mid-long range heavy is what was broken in the last build.)

I disagree. I think that this game's concept of range is the core problem. It is unique to this game, and there's a reason for that. Hard range is a terrible mechanic for weapon differentiation. I know they said they will fix that, but it still begs the question of why a HMG is out ranged by High School quarterbacks.

So, all honesty here:

If they removed the "disappearing bullets" mechanic, they're probably going to mess with shot dispersion and make it kick like a mule to the point that HMG is only really useful at the current ranges anyway.

I don't see longer-range HMG Heavy coming back anytime soon, even with everything CCP said being implemented. But, my crystal ball is as good as yours, so we'll have to wait and see. I'm happy with the changes for now.

With the exception of the Assault HMG, it handles like a flame thrower currently.

That said, it's a damn effective flame thrower. Not the way I want it balanced, but I can't deny the results it yields...

Just to be clear the friendship we showed here is now over I plan on decimating all you fellow heavies on the battelfield.

May you die gloriously at the hands of my meat grinder!

Just to be clear the friendship we showed here is now over I plan on decimating all you fellow heavies on the battelfield.

May you die gloriously at the hands of my meat grinder!

CQC Scout was the most efficient Heavy murderer there was last build, second only to skilled Mass Driver users.

Just to be clear the friendship we showed here is now over I plan on decimating all you fellow heavies on the battelfield.

May you die gloriously at the hands of my meat grinder!

Major props goes to the legions of heavies for giving the constructive feedback that CCP needed to see, now you guys got some reasonable buffs out of it!

I look forward to being murdered just a bit more frequently by you guys soon enough. :D

Pretty sure there's more Assault players / logis than there are heavies. Everything else just leaves scout... you mad about scout? Why don't you make a feedback thread and not come into a heavy thread and talk about lack of skill

I do post everywhere. What happened to Heavy and HMG 5 days ago has been scout's baseline for the past 8 months. Just wanted to make an observation that the majority of ppl would not care about game or weapon imbalance so long as they got their piece of pie. HMG and Heavy got the shaft the same way half the weapons, and, yes, scout have been getting for the majority of the game, but it's only now there is this massive outrage: "Oh, look, CCP, this game is so unbalanced". It has been this way for months now and I bet half the ppl who post in this thread did not even care to notice. You know what I am saying? I am just saying.

I know what you're saying, but if people don't post about scouts, who's to know?

I know scouts CPU and PG is **** poor, but other than that, I can't have a valid opinion on the matter cuz I don't play the class. I played it for a while a few builds back, but to go into detail, I can't. Same with the current problem HAV's have right now.

I know CCP nerfed the PG, and lowered HP on the top tiered HAV's currently. That's all I know about them, so I won't have a valid opinion on the matter.

Hence I won't make a thread about those things, BUT people who know about them should. This thread was lucky enough to succeed due to the amount of heavies that felt they got nerfed too hard. Everyone came in here and gave their opinions on the matter.

People should create threads about the scout suit. I haven't seen much, and if I didn't know the problems the scout suit has, I won't have thought there was a problem at all!

Scouts suits flaws are workable with your speed. But I understand if you have any frustrations - the vets around here who do use scouts don't unite like heavies and tankers do. So I can only assume the class isn't in a bad shape.

But eh, Heavies are lucky to have so many forum warriors on there side.