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Azrael Nightbane
Turalyon Plus
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Posted - 2013.05.10 01:50:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:martinofski wrote:I hope CCP Remnant will read from where he left reading at the end of is day and analyse all our suggestion understand we dont want the be fat AR user, which is lame, but all would be really effective with a TAR(that would be area denial). I'm just hoping that their team is not draconian to the point where such a massive demonstration of unsatisfied heavies gets waved off because our expectations do not conform to Commander Wang's "stats". lolstats. Judging balance by pub games! GG! do we even HAVE any other game mode right now? FW was up for one day, seen no corp contracts, AND the new map i played on monday poofed (oh, and my sounds are all chromosome build again)
hope it comes back soon, and almost at page 30 back to the top! |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
375
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Posted - 2013.05.10 01:52:00 -
[572] - Quote
I am really truly terrified right now that CCP Shanghai staff are not actually gamers at all and are attempting to build this game purely from stats and theorycraft.
Because that does not work. Ever. |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
135
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Posted - 2013.05.10 01:53:00 -
[573] - Quote
How does CCP look at CB data and completely miss how easy it was to avoid HMG/Boundless? Now it's even easier with the added bonus of it not packing the same punch... |
DS 10
G I A N T EoN.
276
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Posted - 2013.05.10 01:56:00 -
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I had my first no death heavy game earlier. Felt good. I missed it.
The fit I'm running is a Frame A/1 suit, 2 complex damage mods, 2 enhanced armor plates, Boundless HMG and Toxin SMG (I think). It felt like the MH-82 last build. |
Superhero Rawdon
Bloodwolves Battalion Alpha Wolf Pack
22
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Posted - 2013.05.10 01:59:00 -
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as i carry on with the HMG, as i specced into those heavy skills (bc thats where they were b4) not knowing what trash has emerged
the ONLY time the HMG is useful (this has been said already too) is that 10meter range...to about 15.....20 if ure lucky......
my longest kill? 33.2 (i think) meters. how? his armor was at about 20 and his shield was gone. and it took about 5 seconds to kill him (yaknow, bullet spread and all)
GFG |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
135
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:11:00 -
[576] - Quote
I think HMG's suck.
This is not a bump - just an opinion. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
637
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:15:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=774276#post774276
last post by wang
they are "listening"
but next week before we hear anything.......so heavies are screwed till AFTER pc comes, oh joy..... |
Superhero Rawdon
Bloodwolves Battalion Alpha Wolf Pack
22
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:22:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=774276#post774276
last post by wang
they are "listening"
but next week before we hear anything.......so heavies are screwed till AFTER pc comes, oh joy.....
mehhhhhhhhhh |
Eisen Sonnet
S.e.V.e.N. Gentlemen's Agreement
5
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:22:00 -
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Forge Sniping at this point.
The HMG is currently less situational viable. That combination of range nerf, DPS nerf, slow turn speed, and spool time make it one of the worst weapons available.
If we could trade for higher weapon cost, or higher SP cost to have these heavy weapons actually be worth it I would be totally ok with that. As it stands now, higher and more reliable damage is being output by light weapons along with light weapons offering more variety in styles. |
Blammmo
Better Hide R Die
25
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:26:00 -
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Played a bunch today and the HMG still blows, the only playstyle I can see the heavy now accomplishing is kill theif... I can make kills easy buy letting others wear enemies down then spam HMG rounds like its my job. Lol, don't squad with me unless you are into getting assists |
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martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
75
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:27:00 -
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I wont even play in PC, leaving my place for a corp mates using a Tactical rifle for better results.
Best game I made, I did 10 kill and 1 death. Camping a letter in a corner, waiting for the fools to come and hack, when they did, I would walk behind and put my gun right on the back of their head saying : fell those BB pellets you bastard!
Edit: yay, first on page 30! lol |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
637
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:31:00 -
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martinofski wrote:I wont even play in PC, leaving my place for a corp mates using a Tactical rifle for better results.
Best game I made, I did 10 kill and 1 death. Camping a letter in a corner, waiting for the fools to come and hack, when they did, I would walk behind and put my gun right on the back of their head saying : fell those BB pellets you bastard!
Edit: yay, first on page 30! lol
did this just become another "last one to post wins" thread
oh dear, we did it again |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
136
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:34:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:
oh dear, we did it again
I played with your heaaaart! Got lost in the game! Oh baby baby
Ops, you think I'm in love? That I was sent from abooooooooove?! I'm not, that, interested in using HMG anymore :( |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1530
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:41:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:
oh dear, we did it again
We played with your heaaaart! Got lost in the game! Oh baby baby Ops, you think I'm in love? That I was sent from abooooooooove?! I'm not, that, interested in using HMG anymore :(
Duvolle tact. is where it's at bro. If I'm rolling with logis, I'll bring out this class. I need nanohives lol.
Edit: On a serious note though, the number I wanna see, is the number of heavies playing now, compared to the number of heavies playing in Chromosome. |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
76
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Posted - 2013.05.10 02:44:00 -
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General Tiberius1 wrote:martinofski wrote:I wont even play in PC, leaving my place for a corp mates using a Tactical rifle for better results.
Best game I made, I did 10 kill and 1 death. Camping a letter in a corner, waiting for the fools to come and hack, when they did, I would walk behind and put my gun right on the back of their head saying : fell those BB pellets you bastard!
Edit: yay, first on page 30! lol did this just become another "last one to post wins" thread oh dear, we did it again
Nah, I was just messing around. I can re-edit that no problem. |
bill the noon
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
4
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:03:00 -
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is any one sic of hearing how heavies are supposed to be point guards not offensive. as though if your defending near a blue objective that suddenly your gun stops sucking. |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
136
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:05:00 -
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I just want to know why just because the SUIT is defensive the WEAPON has to be the same thing - they're two different items.
HMG = Big gun with big bullets. AR is a small gun with small bullets. Why does one beat the other? Because AR users QQ the hardest.
Just because the suit says it's for defensive reasons doesn't mean that's what's explained in the weapons details. |
Morathi III
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
85
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:17:00 -
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martinofski wrote:General Tiberius1 wrote:martinofski wrote:I wont even play in PC, leaving my place for a corp mates using a Tactical rifle for better results.
Best game I made, I did 10 kill and 1 death. Camping a letter in a corner, waiting for the fools to come and hack, when they did, I would walk behind and put my gun right on the back of their head saying : fell those BB pellets you bastard!
Edit: yay, first on page 30! lol did this just become another "last one to post wins" thread oh dear, we did it again Nah, I was just messing around. I can re-edit that no problem. Edit: I just hope they dont decide to just nerf the Tactical AR instead of fixing the other...all that nerfing bring guns to such a low enjoyability. Like the range nerf, which make everyone feel they are not shooting weapons anymore. A tiny buff to the HMG appear enough, if its buffed too high the heavy become too powerfull against cqc scout |
Hollow M Ling
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
16
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:19:00 -
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Currently I have been the MH-82 (I know not a smart move) but I've been doing decent...mostly because the people I've been facing stand still while I shoot them or if my teammates already did damage to the enemy and I just got lucky. It's getting less bad but against good players at range or cqc in adv or proto gear is just a pain. I hope the dev was right and soon we'll get a slight buff. |
Morathi III
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
85
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:24:00 -
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Hollow M Ling wrote:Currently I have been the MH-82 (I know not a smart move) but I've been doing decent...mostly because the people I've been facing stand still while I shoot them or if my teammates already did damage to the enemy and I just got lucky. It's getting less bad but against good players at range or cqc in adv or proto gear is just a pain. I hope the dev was right and soon we'll get a slight buff. Agree, i just dont want to see heavy killing anything without skill and tactic |
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Laurade Eve
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:32:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:I just want to know why just because the SUIT is defensive the WEAPON has to be the same thing - they're two different items.
HMG = Big gun with big bullets. AR is a small gun with small bullets. Why does one beat the other? Because AR users QQ the hardest.
Just because the suit says it's for defensive reasons doesn't mean that's what's explained in the weapons details.
this
atm i ditched the hmg for millitia AR and doing a tonnn better now in my fat suit grinding my way back up to proto guns. any AR preferbly the douvolles and with heavy proto suits those proto assaults will fear u again loool and then the AR users will QQ heavies have too much HP |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
637
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:40:00 -
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Laurade Eve wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:I just want to know why just because the SUIT is defensive the WEAPON has to be the same thing - they're two different items.
HMG = Big gun with big bullets. AR is a small gun with small bullets. Why does one beat the other? Because AR users QQ the hardest.
Just because the suit says it's for defensive reasons doesn't mean that's what's explained in the weapons details. this atm i ditched the hmg for millitia AR and doing a tonnn better now in my fat suit grinding my way back up to proto guns. any AR preferbly the douvolles and with heavy proto suits those proto assaults will fear u again loool and then the AR users will QQ heavies have too much HP
this, i see more and more heavies switching to AR's as they read the writing on the wall.
it's quite sad IMO that such an iconic weapon in dust is getting tossed aside for a PoS that can outperform it |
Disturbingly Bored
Universal Allies Inc.
196
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:41:00 -
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Morathi III wrote: A tiny buff to the HMG appear enough, if its buffed too high the heavy become too powerfull against cqc scout
CQC Scout was the most efficient Heavy murderer there was last build, second only to skilled Mass Driver users. All they have to do is:
GÇó Approach from non-direct angle and fire first shot GÇó Wait 1/4 second for the heavy to start turning GÇó Strafe in the direction the heavy is turning GÇó Fire second shot, possibly third, +50 WP
I took the lesson from Annie Oakley II, and used it myself when I was getting sick of certain heavies on the opposite team. It was harder for me to kill Assaults as Scout than Heavies when I used it.
Scout approaching HMG Heavy dead-on should honestly be certain death. It would be ridiculous otherwise. |
General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
637
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Posted - 2013.05.10 03:45:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:Morathi III wrote: A tiny buff to the HMG appear enough, if its buffed too high the heavy become too powerfull against cqc scout
CQC Scout was the most efficient Heavy murderer there was last build, second only to skilled Mass Driver users. All they have to do is: GÇó Approach from non-direct angle and fire first shot GÇó Wait 1/4 second for the heavy to start turning GÇó Strafe in the direction the heavy is turning GÇó Fire second shot, possibly third, +50 WP I took the lesson from Annie Oakley II, and used it myself when I was getting sick of certain heavies on the opposite team. It was harder for me to kill Assaults as Scout than Heavies when I used it. Scout approaching HMG Heavy dead-on should honestly be certain death. It would be ridiculous otherwise.
have to agree with this, i picked up a militia suit and shotgun and did EXACTLY that when i saw really great Heavies on the enemy side (or idiots that pulled out the officer HMG/FG's)
now? both classes are a joke |
bill the noon
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
5
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Posted - 2013.05.10 04:13:00 -
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Morathi III wrote: A tiny buff to the HMG appear enough, if its buffed too high the heavy become too powerfull against cqc scout
your worry about the weakest suit not being able to withstand damage from one of the highest dps weapons seems to be a common one. while i do not worry about the effects of the hmgs, probably out of pure selfishness clouding my mind, i am worried that the tanks blaster cannons make it hard for scouts to operate freely and should probably be nerfed. |
Grenadez Rollack
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
6
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:00:00 -
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I said I was gonna try running with an AR but today I still didnt even turn my ps3 on. I just dont see why I habe to switch to an AR just to be able to enjoy dust. I had put all my sp into heavy class. I had over 8 million sp and spect it all in heavy and can't even kill some players in militia suits. I think ill just sit out and wait and hope they redo the heavy class or give us a chance to respect again. I guess its a giod thing though cause now I give my girl and kids more time and get more sleep for work instead of playing dust all day |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
849
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:13:00 -
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Grenadez Rollack wrote:I said I was gonna try running with an AR but today I still didnt even turn my ps3 on. I just dont see why I habe to switch to an AR just to be able to enjoy dust. I had put all my sp into heavy class. I had over 8 million sp and spect it all in heavy and can't even kill some players in militia suits. I think ill just sit out and wait and hope they redo the heavy class or give us a chance to respect again. I guess its a giod thing though cause now I give my girl and kids more time and get more sleep for work instead of playing dust all day
when something ceases to be fun, then there's always stuff to do.
+1 |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1693
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:18:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Grenadez Rollack wrote:I said I was gonna try running with an AR but today I still didnt even turn my ps3 on. I just dont see why I habe to switch to an AR just to be able to enjoy dust. I had put all my sp into heavy class. I had over 8 million sp and spect it all in heavy and can't even kill some players in militia suits. I think ill just sit out and wait and hope they redo the heavy class or give us a chance to respect again. I guess its a giod thing though cause now I give my girl and kids more time and get more sleep for work instead of playing dust all day (when something ceases to be fun), then there's always stuff to do. +1
you fix it |
DropKickSuicide
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
82
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:29:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:Hollow M Ling wrote:Currently I have been the MH-82 (I know not a smart move) but I've been doing decent...mostly because the people I've been facing stand still while I shoot them or if my teammates already did damage to the enemy and I just got lucky. It's getting less bad but against good players at range or cqc in adv or proto gear is just a pain. I hope the dev was right and soon we'll get a slight buff. Agree, i just dont want to see heavy killing anything without skill and tactic
Like the Tac-AR does now? |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1530
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Posted - 2013.05.10 05:38:00 -
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Brought out Proto everything heavy + 2 complex dmg mods.
went 24-0 and 32-2 against organized players. They basically ran TOWARDS me for the most part. People really disrespected the heavy so much that they're running towards us again. Normally only noobs would do this, but hey, if you have a duvolle, then lolheavies.
It was a CQC map. Normally people would have had more caution when hearing a heavy, but I guess not. Btw, this map usually has 3+ heavies on it...this time it was just me, and some poor proto heavy on the other side.
I felt sorry for that guy. I got killed a few times in his proto stuff.
But yeah, this shows you can't have a heavy suit as your primary class, as it suits certain maps, at certain areas. Wanna make money and not get frustrated, have an Assault class, and when the map you're most comfortable with as a heavy comes around, pull it.
Til they fix it, that's the only solution I have. |
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