I've gone the Tac AR route just a few shots puts any other heavies down from giggle distance.

not you too

yeah i noticed those are back to being the dominate AR's

I love this thread. CCP takes out the 'Heavy + HMG = I win button' and here comes a river of tears. It's funny to think that all those ppl that thought they had gun skills now realize that they did not have anything that CCP did not spoon feed them.

I love this thread. CCP takes out the 'Heavy + HMG = I win button' and here comes a river of tears. It's funny to think that all those ppl that thought they had gun skills now realize that they did not have anything that CCP did not spoon feed them.

I'm doing great with my assault fit... don't know how you think Heavy + HMG = no skill. I was an assault player before going heavy. Pretty sure playing as Assault is FAR easier than playing as a heavy...just an FYI cuz you sound like you've never played as a heavy.

I love this thread. CCP takes out the 'Heavy + HMG = I win button' and here comes a river of tears. It's funny to think that all those ppl that thought they had gun skills now realize that they did not have anything that CCP did not spoon feed them.

I also think that assault fits are also easy mode. I played as a heavy in the build before the chromosome, so two build ago iirc. In my opinion Dust was built around AR, HMG and Tanks that were the only viable options for combat. Logibros also got to eat a piece of cake as support. Everything else in the game was marginalizd and squized to far periphery. So much for diversity.

Okay, some new data from playing tonight.

Furthest kill: 28m
Usual kill range: 12-15m
Average range I died at: 19m
Weapon that killed me most: GEK-38 AR
Suit that killed me most: Caldari Medium Frame ck.0
KDR for the night: 2.1 (underwhelming compared to what it used to be)

Frustrating new discovery:

AR Heavies. I ran into at least one in every game. I lost toe-to-toe against them every single time at every possible range, and I use M-82 HMG with HMG Spec V and 2x Damage Mods.

HMG must be more viable on Heavy than Assault Rifle. I think that should go without saying, but after tonight, it has to be said.

Other things I learned:

If I want to kill beyond 15m, I need to crouch and waste 20% of my clip on barrel spin-up before I can kill at "range."

Yeah... right now only the Amarr heavy frame model is complete. In Uprising we've started pushing all the suits more into specific race profiles, but of course when you're missing 75% of the other frame options you're bound to have some balance holes. The Caldari, Minmatar and Gallente heavy frames are coming, but not as soon as we'd all like.

To that point though, how would you guys like us to approach that? Would you want Type-IIs and more sidegrade variants to tide you over until the other suits come online? (Even knowing that we'll probably retire them once the others arrive?)

They say surver is down for extended time for Gothic but don't mention anything helping heavies. Only lav smh this is crazy

I'm ready to hear from someone who has tried the heavy with a good laser. I was thinking that may be a good way to be the point defense man. Camp objective woth laser and smg and grenades

Yeah... right now only the Amarr heavy frame model is complete. In Uprising we've started pushing all the suits more into specific race profiles, but of course when you're missing 75% of the other frame options you're bound to have some balance holes. The Caldari, Minmatar and Gallente heavy frames are coming, but not as soon as we'd all like.

To that point though, how would you guys like us to approach that? Would you want Type-IIs and more sidegrade variants to tide you over until the other suits come online? (Even knowing that we'll probably retire them once the others arrive?)

Master J I respect that to the fullest but right now there is no real heavy

I love this thread. CCP takes out the 'Heavy + HMG = I win button' and here comes a river of tears. It's funny to think that all those ppl that thought they had gun skills now realize that they did not have anything that CCP did not spoon feed them.

As stubborn as I am and as much as I TRY to make the HMG work, I just haven't found that groove yet.

another example.. I get a guy at around 10-12m out in the open, fire away at him and start to melt him, then all of a sudden he stops taking damage. NOT cause he ran away, took to cover, or anything of the sort, but that the bullets that WERE destroying him all of a sudden turned into DUST before his very eyes.. prolly the most frustrating thing

I totally agree with you and all other people who dedicated to the Heavy class with HMG. I did skill up into it, even though I knew the HMG suck at the moment. Love the class itself. Can't trash it away, even though I almost did.

I did some game last night and experienced the same thing while shooting a guy at less than 10m in a scout suit (he wasn't even moving). He emptied a full clip on me, reloaded and start shooting again while I was holding my fire right on is chest. Really felt like shooting pellets. I loled hard. I should have knock him with the elbow twice, he would have died faster.

2-3 time I got circled around by assault and scout which emptied 2-3 clips on me. The HP of the heavy is great, but useless when you can even counter attack in CQC. I was litterally holding the stick completely to turn as fast as I could, they were pulling ahead, laughing as I shoot nowhere in circle...I actually laughed too, but it is lame for a low range, low dmg, low speed class.