Scouts suits flaws are workable with your speed. But I understand if you have any frustrations - the vets around here who do use scouts don't unite like heavies and tankers do. So I can only assume the class isn't in a bad shape.

But eh, Heavies are lucky to have so many forum warriors on there side.

Or people like me who come once in a blue moon.

Let me correct myself.

Heavies are lucky to have so many forum warriors AND passionate players.

forum warriors ftw!

Let me correct myself.

Heavies are lucky to have so many forum warriors AND passionate players.

I wish I was home to kill and kill with my fellow Heavies. Give those TacAR's a good beating for me.

I can't wait too

already been doing so.

oh, and 6 heavies in a squad is hilarious


(need nano hives though)

I don't hate the Heavies. Or the HMG.

Well, actually, I hate everyone on the planet equally so technically I guess that means I hate no-one (we're all snowflakes!)

Good to see some intelligent debate and solid points in this thread, so thanks for that! Just wanted to jump in an explain the thinking behind some of the recent changes.

- The SS skill had to go. It should never have been there in the first place as it pushed all weapons well beyond their intended ranges and with more racial variants coming into the game (rail rifle, combat rifle etc.) it was more important than ever to have cleaner range profiles for all weaponry.
- The Sentinel was designed primarily as a point defense role. His speed and slow turn rate make him unsuitable for frontline combat. His presence should make anyone think twice before approaching a position. I'm not sure but it seems to me that a lot of the complaints about the ineffectiveness of the HMG stem from the fact that people want to use it to lead the charge into enemy territory. The HMG is not well suited for use in open areas but it comes into its own when used in outposts where targets are confined to narrow spaces. And at close range, the HMG is still very effective, I believe.

The HMG's optimal range is up to 30m and max. effective range caps out at 50m. (This is currently a hard cap - all weapons stop doing any damage beyond their max range - but we're going to be fixing this soon. Like soon soon, not SOON(tm).) What it needs is not a damage buff (it kills just fine) but a gentler damage falloff curve so that it can be used as an effective suppression weapon in the 50-70m range. As an attacker, right now it's too easy to shrug off the hits and close the gap between yourself and the person wielding the HMG so that's something I'd like to address as soon as possible.

Other smaller tweaks like lessening kick (which gets pretty excessive as the weapon nears its heat threshold) and a modest improvement in how quickly the weapon reaches optimal dispersion should make it feel much better.

Anyway, thanks for the ten-page thread, guys. I look forward to the next ten pages!

You know a game is bad when the developer either hides or fudges the player numbers.

And I apply logic to the situation and no bumps. I am guessing that most of the heavies in this thread were scrubs that got their jaws on the bone CCP just threw us and forgot all about this thread.

So you think the recent addition of adding pod pilots to the log in screen of DUST is a coverup? Because I can tell you as soon as I saw 50000+ on DUST I logged into EVE and it was at 48000.

are you calling me a scrub?

And I apply logic to the situation and no bumps. I am guessing that most of the heavies in this thread were scrubs that got their jaws on the bone CCP just threw us and forgot all about this thread.

Depends, do you think that damage was the problem HMG had?

Depends, do you think that damage was the problem HMG had?

I like this guy, he knows nothing about me

Yes damage was a problem, 20 kill assets is bad

Well then that is because you weren't a heavy, or if you were, you weren't worth learning your name.

This is a range problem not a damage problem.

What is your KD scrub

This is a range problem not a damage problem.

ALL weapons got a 10% dmg increase? WTF's your problem?

I'm happy

Oh, here we go. We got a live one here boss. "What is your KD scrub"... Well my KD is you are nothing and I have no idea who you are to even care about your opinion. Unless it coincides with mine and then we can be friends, until that time though you do not matter. Because what you obviously want is not what I want because you are stupid... D. U. M. B. stupid. So either jump onboard or I am going to run you over with facts and knowledge. Most people that get into this type of thing with me just stop posting, I suggest you do the same.