I didn't want to use the boundless... it's not worth it man. I have allot of ISK to spend, but I'm not gonna waste it on something like that. May as well run Adv suits and HMG's and hope you don't die 3-4 times.

Right, so you're basically agreeing that the heavy is ****** and that we just have to "wait it out." How fair is it that we have to wait for another build just to be able to do something BESIDES armor tanking? How can you talk about the whole picture when CCP is obviously focusing on a single part of it? It's more than just broken, the class has been completely destroyed.

Fixing crap by the numbers doesn't require a new build and can and should be hot fixable.

However it does require a developer and the most I can do is shove input on balance priority.

The reason why I require hands on by myself and other cpm is to verify the issue instead of being blindly told its broken.

Fixing crap by the numbers doesn't require a new build and can and should be hot fixable.

However it does require a developer and the most I can do is shove input on balance priority.

The reason why I require hands on by myself and other cpm is to verify the issue instead of being blindly told its broken.

Fixing crap by the numbers doesn't require a new build and can and should be hot fixable.

However it does require a developer and the most I can do is shove input on balance priority.

The reason why I require hands on by myself and other cpm is to verify the issue instead of being blindly told its broken.

The range can be fine, but the bullet spread makes it hard to judge. Same with damage. The damage can be fine, but when your bullets is shooting at and AROUND the target, it's hard to judge what the problem is, and THAT'S where CCP went wrong with the nerfing.

The nerfed damage AND range the same time. So what's the problem now? How can you judge progress when small steps is not taken?

This I respect. Much more approachable than Mr. Jagerblitzen.....

Please do check out the HMGs yourself and let us know if you agree or not. I'd like to hear from someone who is not normally a heavy and see what they have to say about it.

I am just saying normally the CPM wouldn't bother with most balance issues unless its broken. From the sounds of it, the HMG is not fun to be shooting ergo thus broken.

At least there seems to be no cries of getting shot by something being totally unfun yet.

Either way uprising just came out and its going to be a while before bearings are set and feeling of the battlefield is tuned to see things as a whole picture.

I will I been shot and shot plenty of people with HMGs last build as an Omni-soldier, if my gimped self cant be effective on the field with it nor could I see it being feild capable you're going to have someone fighting in getting that fixed.

ONLY way to make your heavy set up profitable, is to have a Logi player tied around your neck.

/me jots this issue down as hands on testing required urgent.

I know for a fact many heavies have switched over to light infantry and it saddens me.

Personally after using all classes and finding my niche, i can't see myself playing this game if I'm not a heavy.

This is a team game?!?!? Who knew?!?

I actually agree with you about the range thing, though. I remember CHICAGOCUBS4EVER had his HMG tweaked to nearly Tactical Assault Rifle range, and I thought that was a little extreme. However, most of the time I found the range of the HMGs prior to Uprising was perfectly acceptable, and this is coming from someone who's only played as assault.

2.7mil SP into SS and yes the HMG had insane range. I have never denied that nor have I disputed any claims that it was a bit excessive.

but the range at SS 6 or 7 was realistic, provided viability and made the game fun. Perhaps even fixing the broken percentages where everything rounded up would have resolved this on its own.

instead, lets just make the HMG and the shotgun the same range.

I'm actually fine with the damage nerf... needed? no not at all, but with the HP buff (and in honesty its not much of a buff compared to the shield variant before, its just now SLOWER and has 1 more slot on the right) it creates more imbalance.

the range is what made the heavy fun. was it a little over the top before? sure... and so was the laser, AR and pretty much everything... but their was BALANCE

honestly if they had a sharpshooter skill for heavies that increased range, i would be interested to see where it would max out with the current effective range...

The thing about the SS skill is it was available to everyone so if you didn't have it IMO yo were slipping. I can't count the number of times I was taken out by a dot on the horizon wielding a Duvolle in about 1.5 seconds.

If they had only removed everyone's SS the game would still be balanced just like it was in Chromosome

The thing about the SS skill is it was available to everyone so if you didn't have it IMO yo were slipping. I can't count the number of times I was taken out by a dot on the horizon wielding a Duvolle in about 1.5 seconds.

If they had only removed everyone's SS the game would still be balanced just like it was in Chromosome

few realize that cause no one in their right mind would skip over at least a couple levels of SS as early as possible

Yea I took SS to lvl 3 asap not even gonna lie