I have, but that will be a later part when I am balancing the same powercore for assaults and logistics.

No, I'm talking EVE.

Gallente are second fastest after Minmatar, Caldari are slowest until Amarr plate up.

Gallente use Micro Warp Drives to close the distance and apply massive shredding from their Blasters. (Ga Ass charging with a Duvolle or Shotgun)
Micro Warp Drive eats capacitor like crazy, and as such has to be used in bursts, not always on.


A simulation of that in DUST would be like giving Gallente same or better sprint speed than Minmatar, but nerfing the stamina so it can only be used in short bursts.


The fact that it isn't like that could be contributing to the AR's underperformance, as the best suit to use the AR on is in fact the Minmatar Assault for its speed. But since it gets a bonus for CR's, it's a waste to put on an AR.

That's not necessary actually, it just works out that way because such a system is linear as well. Instead, the suits have been placed on the curve, so as to give that impression, and because it is intuitive, to a degree. But you can also place a dropsuit on the curve without it fitting on the "max X = min Y", and it will still be normalized.

Also, you have to take the brick fit into account. If you do that, you actully see that commandos are still below a fictional line through the data set, and assault above, etc, indicating the strengths and weaknesses of each role. Of course you don't need to brick, so everyone should be able to find an acceptable niche for his/her playstyle.

Also Im concerned that the amar logi will now be a much more attractive option for slaying than the Cal/Gal assaults. The Cal/Gal assaults have pretty **** poor weapon bonuses as is, so its not much of a sacrifice to drop those and get +2 equipment slots in return, and all you have to do to make up for most of the HP loss is lowball one or two equipment slots, in return you get (for example) a nanohive PLUS a crappy nanite injector and good uplinks + the amar logi uplink bonus.

This is a pretty dangerous thing to do as long as logis and assaults have the same slot count. I think the cal logi actually has 1 more slot than the assault. People could just copy their assault fits and improve them with the extra cpu and pg plus have the speed.

On a second note... making sure all equipment slots are filled is almost useless, too...

Slayer logi with 3 or 4 compact nanohives?

Because I donGÇÖt brick tank my suits I donGÇÖt really lose anything by changing to the Amarr logi from my Gallente assault.

I checked from protofits and I can have a neat Amarr logi with 230 shield, 510 armour (my Gal usually goes with 194/509), PRO AR/ADV SMG/Basic flux, PRO needle, PRO hive and remotes. By changing equipment I can have a better sidearm, grenade or HP if I wish, but to be honest, I have no need. The logi also has better scan range and hacking speed not to mention the additional WP IGÇÖll be having by reviving and booby trapping places.

I feel so sorry for the Caldari assault though. Slow as feck but if you want speed you lose the ability to fit regulators and other useful modules. My Caldari assault runs two regulators and usually stamina or possibly a ferro in the lows. After this change, kincat is almost mandatory to be able to use it. Caldari is a distance fighter, real nice that an Amarr logi can close the distance before you turn : /

I have no idea how Rattati thinks nerfing assault speed this drastically wonGÇÖt make people change to other suits.

Make all equipment slots mandatory + increase CPU/PG fitting bonuses for logis + reduce CPU/PG for logis = plenty of CPU/PG for equipment but not much left for brick tanking and proto weaponry.

P.S. I dont see why we just dont add some damned stacking penalties to HP modules HP values. Why are they the special snowflake? Sure they have penalties but those penalties clearly arent enough of a deterrent.

increase CPU/PG fitting bonuses for logis

With the planned tiericide, I confidently predict the return of the slayer Logi. Identical slots, more fitting space, and now faster than the assault suits.

After all, the Min Logi will have a 4/4/4 slot layout at all tiers, and is getting the min assaut speed. Fit militia equipment to free up fitting space and the ADV min logi becomes the current Proto Min Assault. You can apply the same logic to the other assaults with dare i say it, lackluster bonuses. A cal logi with 5/3/3 slots or a slower caldari assault that can reload. Gal logi with extra fitting space or a slow gal assault that has less dispersion? And the Amarr assult....well might as well run a commando or heavy suit instead, more HP and more fire power, and identical if not faster speeds.

I don't have math, but I do have logic. You're ignoring a huge factor when just balancing speed vs HP in regards to.

If the assaults' HP is countered by the lack of speed, and vice versa for the logistics', then the these factors are balanced against each other (no net advantage or disadvantage), and thus assaults and logistics are equal when comparing net speed/HP advantages and disadvantages.

If that is the case, then the logistics comes out on top because with speed and HP being balanced with the assaults, that leaves logistics with a very large advantage with no counterbalance: the 3-4 equipment slots while assaults only have 1.

If the speed and HP advantages and disadvantages of assaults and logistics cancel out against each other when the 2 suit types are compared with one another, and the logistics gets a ton more equipment slots, what does the assault have to balance against that? just a sidearm? It doesn't seem fair. Sure assaults get fitting bonuses to weapons to allow for fitting better weapons, but logis get fitting bonuses to equipment, and the savings from the equipment fitting bonus can be used to equip better weapons also.

In life of this, I don't think assaults should get a speed nerf. Also, assaults are meant to be the frontline fighters that rush to objectives and clear areas. Reducing speed conflicts with their intended purpose, as it makes it harder for them to rush objectives.

In short, I suggest keeping assault speeds intact.