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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
1128
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Posted - 2014.12.20 08:58:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:not quite 500 hp but I still hate you Long story! I've run mostly knives, shotguns and sidearms since 1.10. Pulled out the CalScout to snipe a 'bit earlier. Realized I still had Range Extenders and Precision Enhancers on it. Duh. Wasted space. Which reminded me of my old AM Scout loadouts. Hadn't used 'em much at all since Falloff. Over the next 5-6 matches, I tried my best to come up with a killer AM Scout loadout that I'd actually want to run. After many beatdowns, settled on a ~500HP damage amp'd Fine Rifle fit. Next step was to compare that fit's performance against a damage amp'd CalScout Fine Rifle fit. There's no comparison. The CA Scout is in every way superior. All that to say ... I can truly think of no reason to run any AM Scout fit at the moment. The precision bonus is now nearly useless and easily outshined by Active Scanner. CA Scout makes for a far better ranged fighter. GA and MN Scout are far better CQC fighters. Very interested to see what Rattati has in mind for the AM Scout. The range amp nerf was far too severe imo. Reduce it a bit and see what happens
Was just gonna say exactly the same thing. Range Amps are totally pointless imo. Base scan radius is too low.
I do not like how he likes to "shake up the meta once in a while" - it breaks **** and is exactly the sort of mentality that brings us buff <--> nerf cycles and wastes everyone's investments.
Anyway, I am gonna HTFU (and accept marginalised roles)
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
1128
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Posted - 2014.12.20 08:59:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Llast 326 wrote:voidfaction wrote: CCP Christmas spirit is to SELL the snowball launcher for AUR to those not lvl 3 in mass driver. lol
Hope you enjoy them while some of us can only be targets for you to toy with.
They have an AUR version? I can't see spending AUR on thoseGǪ but i guess some people would. I think it's a BPO
In EVE they give these away around the New Year. I thought they were gonna do the same with DUST. But they can't possibly give them away for free now ppl have bought them for RL cash.
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1096
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Posted - 2014.12.20 10:58:00 -
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So I put a flaylock on my KN fits to test it out and I kind of sort of fell in love with it accidentally.
Whoops
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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sir RAVEN WING
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
2063
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Posted - 2014.12.20 11:01:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:So I put a flaylock on my KN fits to test it out and I kind of sort of fell in love with it accidentally.
Whoops It's on all my fits. Fire into a clusterfuck of enemies and you are going to get WPs.
Goodbye.
Biomassed
I am known from here to the darkest reaches of space.
The above has been proven.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
20435
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Posted - 2014.12.20 11:33:00 -
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So I've been using the officer mass driver with a damage mod + kincat fit Minmando.
Good times. It depresses me how much people don't notice me coming (I must be the loudest thing on the map) though.
Having played a speedfit scout a lot 6m of 250+ damage splash is fricking terrifying to me.
Sometimes, one just has an overwhelming urge to throw a potato at someone.
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Bayeth Mal
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
2084
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Posted - 2014.12.20 13:20:00 -
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This is my Dragon Age review, 15 minutes of epic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-2R4zhHgJA&feature=youtu.be
Those magic effects look freaking awesome on my big TV. Every now and then you can see me pause just to look at some of the cool effects going on you'd usually blink and miss.
If you're a fan of Bioware storytelling and just RPG's in general you really gotta pick this up.
We'll bang, OK?
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5140
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Posted - 2014.12.20 14:08:00 -
[26857] - Quote
Vitantur Nothus wrote:Very interested to see what Rattati has in mind for the AM Scout. Perhaps a Myof bonus, jump and sprint for ever.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5140
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Posted - 2014.12.20 14:13:00 -
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Nice xD
My favourite moment comes from shortly before the recent buff. I was running along the side of a building, came up to a corner and a tank just popped out right in front of me. I panicked and shot. Destroyed in one hit Turned out a few others had been working on it.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5140
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Posted - 2014.12.20 14:17:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:This is my Dragon Age review, 15 minutes of epic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-2R4zhHgJA&feature=youtu.beThose magic effects look freaking awesome on my big TV. Every now and then you can see me pause just to look at some of the cool effects going on you'd usually blink and miss. Even at 720p the video doesn't do it justice. Not that difficult a battle, I was a few levels higher than the Dragon, there's no posted recommendation for what level to take it on and I was being overly cautious. If you're a fan of Bioware storytelling and just RPG's in general you really gotta pick this up. Filthy mage.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1358
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Posted - 2014.12.20 15:43:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Very interested to see what Rattati has in mind for the AM Scout. Perhaps a Myof bonus, jump and sprint for ever. Efficacy Bonus to all Biotics!
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1358
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Posted - 2014.12.20 16:00:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:This is my Dragon Age review, 15 minutes of epic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-2R4zhHgJA&feature=youtu.beThose magic effects look freaking awesome on my big TV. Every now and then you can see me pause just to look at some of the cool effects going on you'd usually blink and miss. Even at 720p the video doesn't do it justice. Not that difficult a battle, I was a few levels higher than the Dragon, there's no posted recommendation for what level to take it on and I was being overly cautious. If you're a fan of Bioware storytelling and just RPG's in general you really gotta pick this up.
Dragon's health bar at 90% after a solid 2 minutes of beatings; reminded me of Baldur's Gate dragon fights! Absolutely loved the attention-to-detail w/the dragon's flames and fireball attacks. Loot seemed pretty cool; nothing worse than poop loot after a fight like that...hope you can get armor out of those scales/bones. Laughed at the quest status at the end ... not cool :-) |
voidfaction
Nos Nothi
775
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Posted - 2014.12.20 16:08:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Spademan wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Very interested to see what Rattati has in mind for the AM Scout. Perhaps a Myof bonus, jump and sprint for ever. Efficacy Bonus to all Biotics! Well you know Logi and assault is taking over eWar so heavies might get jump and sprint. I mean nobody runs sentinel no more since the HUGE nerf to the HMG the other day. Have not seen a single sentinel since.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
5884
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Posted - 2014.12.20 16:51:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:So I put a flaylock on my KN fits to test it out and I kind of sort of fell in love with it accidentally.
Whoops Welcome to the MinjaPirate life
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Henrietta Unknown
Kirjuun Heiian
658
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Posted - 2014.12.20 17:08:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Kaeru Nayiri wrote: I haven't knifed a driver yet, but I was try'n !
Slash at the door rather than the driver/passenger. You've gotta be close. Credit: I believe Appia was first to share this tip. I believe I may have been the first to knife the driver the very instant he left his free LAV.
I was aiming for the vehicle, but a free 50+ was welcome.
I'm sad that I don't have a capture card.
Please buff my Magsex. It doesn't hit hard enough...
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
5885
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Posted - 2014.12.20 17:27:00 -
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Henrietta Unknown wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Kaeru Nayiri wrote: I haven't knifed a driver yet, but I was try'n !
Slash at the door rather than the driver/passenger. You've gotta be close. Credit: I believe Appia was first to share this tip. I believe I may have been the first to knife the driver the very instant he left his free LAV. I was aiming for the vehicle, but a free 50+ was welcome. I'm sad that I don't have a capture card. If you hit the driver door while they drive past you can kill them while they drive byGǪ El Matador
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jace silencerww
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
115
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Posted - 2014.12.20 19:57:00 -
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Vitantur Nothus wrote:Spademan wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Very interested to see what Rattati has in mind for the AM Scout. Perhaps a Myof bonus, jump and sprint for ever. Efficacy Bonus to all Biotics! NO. that would give them the best speed, punching power and stamina over all scout on top of the best passive precision already. |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6734
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Posted - 2014.12.20 20:29:00 -
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jace silencerww wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Spademan wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Very interested to see what Rattati has in mind for the AM Scout. Perhaps a Myof bonus, jump and sprint for ever. Efficacy Bonus to all Biotics! NO. that would give them the best speed, punching power and stamina over all scout on top of the best passive precision already. But those are minor concessions really. Even as a Minja, I am fine if they could be faster (which I don't know that they can, they start off much slower) with some sort of a bonus.
Punching has very finicky HD at the moment, so that isn't a big deal either.
Now that I think about it, would those even be enough? Sounds like it would be primarily an LOL suit, not something terribly viable.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6734
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Posted - 2014.12.20 20:31:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:This is my Dragon Age review, 15 minutes of epic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-2R4zhHgJA&feature=youtu.beThose magic effects look freaking awesome on my big TV. Every now and then you can see me pause just to look at some of the cool effects going on you'd usually blink and miss. Even at 720p the video doesn't do it justice. Not that difficult a battle, I was a few levels higher than the Dragon, there's no posted recommendation for what level to take it on and I was being overly cautious. If you're a fan of Bioware storytelling and just RPG's in general you really gotta pick this up. I have enjoyed the bit I have played so far, which isn't very much.
Mostly enjoying my typical looks-eerily-like-me-yet-not-at-all-like-me character. Wields double knives. Cloaks up and kills things.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
1086
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Posted - 2014.12.20 20:49:00 -
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It's like Skyrim and Fallout 3 made sweet clean love and had the spawn of Hades.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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jace silencerww
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
116
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Posted - 2014.12.20 21:09:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:jace silencerww wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Spademan wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Very interested to see what Rattati has in mind for the AM Scout. Perhaps a Myof bonus, jump and sprint for ever. Efficacy Bonus to all Biotics! NO. that would give them the best speed, punching power and stamina over all scout on top of the best passive precision already. But those are minor concessions really. Even as a Minja, I am fine if they could be faster (which I don't know that they can, they start off much slower) with some sort of a bonus. Punching has very finicky HD at the moment, so that isn't a big deal either. Now that I think about it, would those even be enough? Sounds like it would be primarily an LOL suit, not something terribly viable. if they got a bonues of 5% like now they could out a Minnie plus more stamina plus best precision. the Minnie is barely the fastest at the moment by 0.01. the Minnie are the speed kings and if the scout lost that then what would be the point of them? besides you need to look at the mod that are in the LP store and fit the scout bonus to it. lol though the Minnie have taken the caldari nova knives & swarm launcher from them lol |
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6736
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Posted - 2014.12.20 21:24:00 -
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@ Jace
If you gave them a bonus to the module efficacy, they would only beat a Minja with a lot of fittings sacrifice. It doesn't need to be a passive bonus.
I like my Minja's speed, but that matters to me less than the knife and hacking bonus. As you point out, the marginal difference in their superior speed is already significantly low enough that it is probably no different in terms of perception.
Without a Dampening bonus like the Cal and Gal have, the Amarr will be making a great sacrifice to speed tank, especially since they don't have quite the range anymore with the other nerfs.
I don't think the Amarr are in a strong enough place that giving them a bonus to biotics would be a problem.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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Bayeth Mal
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
2089
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Posted - 2014.12.20 21:28:00 -
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jace silencerww wrote:One Eyed King wrote:jace silencerww wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Spademan wrote: Perhaps a Myof bonus, jump and sprint for ever.
Efficacy Bonus to all Biotics! NO. that would give them the best speed, punching power and stamina over all scout on top of the best passive precision already. But those are minor concessions really. Even as a Minja, I am fine if they could be faster (which I don't know that they can, they start off much slower) with some sort of a bonus. Punching has very finicky HD at the moment, so that isn't a big deal either. Now that I think about it, would those even be enough? Sounds like it would be primarily an LOL suit, not something terribly viable. if they got a bonues of 5% like now they could out a Minnie plus more stamina plus best precision. the Minnie is barely the fastest at the moment by 0.01. the Minnie are the speed kings and if the scout lost that then what would be the point of them? besides you need to look at the mod that are in the LP store and fit the scout bonus to it. lol though the Minnie have taken the caldari nova knives & swarm launcher from them lol
NK and swarms are Caldari, not Amarr.
We'll bang, OK?
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First Prophet
Followers of The Prophet
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Posted - 2014.12.20 21:48:00 -
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I can't stand behind the Amarr being the speed/biotic suits. Give the Amarr a hack bonus and give the minmatar the biotic/speed bonus.
If the Amarr get a speed/biotic bonus they may as well have our knife bonus too.
People find this this review helpful!
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
5890
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Posted - 2014.12.20 22:32:00 -
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I'm really not keen on anybody getting a full biopics bonus. To many bonuses rolled in to one. Especially with Myo getting a buff.
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Varoth Drac
Titans of Phoenix
543
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Posted - 2014.12.20 22:35:00 -
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Apparently some Amarr ships in EVE are extremely fast. A biotic mod bonus for Amarr wouldn't change the fact that Min scouts have the best strafe and non-sprint speed, not to mention excellent stamina and superior stamina regen, who uses stamina mods?
I've always liked the idea. |
Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1361
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Posted - 2014.12.20 22:36:00 -
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jace silencerww wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Spademan wrote:Vitantur Nothus wrote:Very interested to see what Rattati has in mind for the AM Scout. Perhaps a Myof bonus, jump and sprint for ever. Efficacy Bonus to all Biotics! NO. that would give them the best speed, punching power and stamina over all scout on top of the best passive precision already. Mistook my meaning. Rattati made passive recon bad for a reason. I imagine he wants to keep it that way. Making the AM scout a slightly less bad recon unit won't cut it. Drop precision and give it a new role; something people will actually want to run. I think "biotic scout" is a great idea, and I don't see any conflict with MN Scout. Knifing is about base movement speed, and MN base movement would remain far better than AM. |
Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
1361
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Posted - 2014.12.20 22:41:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:I can't stand behind the Amarr being the speed/biotic suits. Give the Amarr a hack bonus and give the minmatar the biotic/speed bonus.
If the Amarr get a speed/biotic bonus they may as well have our knife bonus too. This is solid and meaningful, but I don't think it'd help to equalize usage rates. AM would only see play in PC. Speed + Knives would be infinitely more fun to play than a hack suit. Not "even" in my book.
MN and GA Scouts are in a good place. CA less so role-wise but far from crap. AM Scout has absolutely nothing going for it. |
Spademan
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5149
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Posted - 2014.12.20 22:48:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:Apparently some Amarr ships in EVE are extremely fast. A biotic mod bonus for Amarr wouldn't change the fact that Min scouts have the best strafe and non-sprint speed, not to mention excellent stamina and superior stamina regen, who uses stamina mods?
I've always liked the idea. if I'm not mistaken (I could very well be) they're good in a straight line, but don't corner well.
Just like every american made car ever.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Bayeth Mal
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
2092
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Posted - 2014.12.20 23:50:00 -
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And again, we're suggesting a bonus to modules, so they'd actually have to equip it. Whereas Min gets hacking and knives as base. That's a pretty big difference. The Amarr scout would be undampened speed, which would be fun, but ultimately people will see you coming. Amarr might make a good knifer but really only at Proto, combined with needing to charge to make the knives effective I just don't see it being the best Knifing suit.
We'll bang, OK?
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
5890
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Posted - 2014.12.20 23:53:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:And again, we're suggesting a bonus to modules, so they'd actually have to equip it. Whereas Min gets hacking and knives as base. That's a pretty big difference. The Amarr scout would be undampened speed, which would be fun, but ultimately people will see you coming. Amarr might make a good knifer but really only at Proto, combined with needing to charge to make the knives effective I just don't see it being the best Knifing suit. Well you do have to equip the Knives to get the bonus for them
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