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BARDAS wrote:

Spademan wrote:

knight of 6 wrote:

Spademan wrote:

BARDAS wrote:

Been bugging me a lot lately that most the fittings I been seeing are not technically Scouts but are instead watered down assault suits.

Just out of interest, if this is the case, what would you then consider a scout?

typically center a scout suits around biotics if you brick(plates) tank with an AR it's a fancy mlt assault but put in some biotics and it's a scout. my opinion anyway

So you wouldn't consider a focus on stealth rather than biotics a scout?

I agree with knight of 6. I would normally consider a Scout to be a fast and highly mobile. They would also be lightly armored or shielded and have stealth capabilities. Usually, with hit and run or hard to use but almost always one hit kill weapon(NK's). Weapons of choice currently being Nova Knives, Shotguns, SMGs, Pistols. Though I have come to the conclusion that this is all useless. An Assault or Logi can do anything we can do except better. The only advantage we DID have at one point was going really fast and being hard to hit. That got taken away with Aim Assist and suddenly the Assault Rifles are one shot killing me from almost Sniper distances.

Its downright revolting right now how bad we are off right now. I can't even force myself to log on a play for the past week. I'm losing interest and not sure I even really want to log back on and play to be honest at this point.

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Bartimaeus of Achura Cassardis 43	Posted - 2013.10.04 02:15:00 - [2431] - Quote hooc roht wrote: Everyone fears a scout in CQC. Either with a shot gun or nova knives. They may die a lot but hey are also great killers. I fail to see why they are considered underpowered. What are you saying needs to be buffed on them? No I laugh at your low armour no matter what you have. unless its a allah grenade....
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 546	Posted - 2013.10.04 02:33:00 - [2432] - Quote Gh0st C0de wrote: With pistols and knives I have a ridiculously stunted effective range. I have not had so much fun since I started playing. Pistol headshots and shankings are delightful. Does anyone else run a combo along these lines? I enjoy my scrambler pistol (Militia), and SMG fit quite a bit. It is a major challenge in terms of needing to use cover, be patient and sneaky and really spend the time to line up the headshot or just pray and spray with the SMG. I usually pair it with remotes or an uplink, and go with a precision in the high, range in the low and a reactive plate. I've used knives before but I can't get into them... I'm a projectile sidearm kind of guy. Grifter style....
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1418	Posted - 2013.10.04 03:50:00 - [2433] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Just recently decided to dip my toes into the scout pond...and I'm having a blast so far! Unlike most (if not all) other scouts, I'm running strictly as a defender; if it all possible, I'll position myself close to a node that has a supply depot within easy reach. From there I drop my remote explosives (finding it a much better idea to cover three sides of a CRU rather than focus on nodes) and then find some place to take cover. And then I wait. Best feeling in the game--even better than a sniping headshot on a jumping target from 500m away--is running up to an enemy while he's busy hacking and headshotting him with a shotgun from an arm's -length away. My favorite battle is the one in which I went 13-0 with my poor little STD/Basic Gallente suit while successfully defending our node for the entire battle. Sadly, I rarely get the opportunity to stick with a scout suit for an entire battle, so that may be why that battle stands out to me. Spending this week's cap working towards unlocking the Gallente scout suits and claiming their passive bonus. Doubt I'll ever run anything above a STD fit, but that profile reduction should come in handy! "Haunting" an objective is alot of fun as a Scout. My first PC encounter vs Radar was rather memorable ... hugged perimeter and moved in on the enemy's presumably undefended back letter. Whipped out my trusty scanner to be safe. All clear. Proceeded to hack. "Swish - Swish" ... I was dead before I had time to "Sh*t!" When I "haunt" I prefer to run Swarms, Locus Nades and a high-end SMG. Blades + SMG, AR + Nanohives, or Shotgun + Scanner are other good options for "haunting" ... Glad to hear you're having fun. You've got the right idea working on passive dampening. Let us know if we can be of any assistance. o7
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 2106	Posted - 2013.10.04 04:43:00 - [2434] - Quote Poll: Which Nickname Represents Sidearm Scouts Most? Jazz Scouts Buzz Bombers Sub-Scout X____Fill_Your_Own______
Ghost Kaisar Pradox One 401	Posted - 2013.10.04 04:48:00 - [2435] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Poll: Which Nickname Represents Sidearm Scouts Most? Jazz Scouts Buzz Bombers Sub-Scout X____Fill_Your_Own______ Space Pirates
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 546	Posted - 2013.10.04 05:00:00 - [2436] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: Poll: Which Nickname Represents Sidearm Scouts Most? Jazz Scouts Buzz Bombers Sub-Scout X____Fill_Your_Own______ Space Pirates That works. I also prefer: Gunslingers.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. 269	Posted - 2013.10.04 05:00:00 - [2437] - Quote Is this the longest thread on the forums? It has to be.
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 205	Posted - 2013.10.04 05:14:00 - [2438] - Quote I <3 knives. I really do. but in my recent gorging of AUR use on blueprints... I find myself with a blueprint for pretty much everything I use, EXCEPT knives. SO, with some regret, I'm regressing to AR+scrambler pistol, for my now all-free fits. sniff. technically, i have SMG too. But.. its just not as appealing to me somehow. I still have a knife fit or two. But I spent most of my time sprinting between hackpoints, and dropping uplinks, with blueprints for everything. since I die. a lot. (In my Valor suit) I iz vary sad
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 392	Posted - 2013.10.04 05:20:00 - [2439] - Quote we should all donate 5mill isk to shotty for all the work and research he does for this page and the awesome scout community he has brought together I for one have sent him a donation
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 205	Posted - 2013.10.04 06:26:00 - [2440] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Quil Evrything wrote: Oh hey Ozarow, what is your gallente scout level? It would be nice if you could help out and test whether the "scout level 5" dampening bonus from the min, transfers over to the gallente one. Probably doesnt, but the way they worded the writeup... it just might. Inquiring minds want to know :) Good question an actually this is why I started going gallente racial in June to see if the profile stacks. Tbh it's hard to tell because I don't know who's using what scanner. I ve only been scanned a few times honestly an aeon an his 15 db was one of them. But I was in a pc the other day an nothing found me an I was running the min proto, I found it odd. I have min at 5 =25% Gallente race scout 3=15% Profile dampening 4=8% Gah... server died. But good news is, OZAROW and I were lucky enough to do some experiments just before that. bad news is: yup, no overlap between gallente and minmatar scout skills. AWWW. Using a 28dB scanner, I could pick up his gallente with basic dampener. I could not pick up his minmatar with a basic dampener. What was kinda freaky.. but good for scouts... is that that the scanner LIED. It said NO MARGIN OF ERROR !!

Protected Void STRONG-ARMED BANDITS Public Disorder. 118	Posted - 2013.10.04 10:53:00 - [2441] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: What was kinda freaky.. but good for scouts... is that that the scanner LIED. It said NO MARGIN OF ERROR !! I've seen hints of this lately, too. Either that or I've met some cheetah fast scouts. I've seen a scout run around a corner. I scan (advanced scanner) in his direction to keep track of him. Nothing shows up on my radar, I get No margin of error. Two seconds later he pops out on the other side of the building. I know my scanner works through that building, since I've scanned people through it before. Hmmmmm.
lrian Locust BLACK OP SNIPERS General Tso's Alliance 144	Posted - 2013.10.04 10:56:00 - [2442] - Quote One for the board, Irian Locust, at 1.054 Scout-only kills.
Protected Void STRONG-ARMED BANDITS Public Disorder. 118	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:10:00 - [2443] - Quote I suggested Shotty for a Community Spotlight. I think you should all go to this thread and support it: Shotty GoBang should get a Community Spotlight
Gh0st C0de Spirit Collective 62	Posted - 2013.10.04 11:56:00 - [2444] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Poll: Which Nickname Represents Sidearm Scouts Most? Jazz Scouts Buzz Bombers Sub-Scout X____Fill_Your_Own______ -Turret Creepers -One-Hit-Wonders -Sidewinders
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1422	Posted - 2013.10.04 12:22:00 - [2445] - Quote XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: we should all donate 5mill isk to shotty for all the work and research he does for this page and the awesome scout community he has brought together No.
Shotty GoBang Pro Hic Immortalis 1422	Posted - 2013.10.04 12:24:00 - [2446] - Quote Protected Void wrote: I suggested Shotty for a Community Spotlight. I think you should all go to this thread and support it: Shotty GoBang should get a Community Spotlight No.
Lucifalic Baked n Loaded 113	Posted - 2013.10.04 12:36:00 - [2447] - Quote Give him the Mr. Humble award while your at it haha
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 588	Posted - 2013.10.04 14:00:00 - [2448] - Quote Spademan wrote: BARDAS wrote: Been bugging me a lot lately that most the fittings I been seeing are not technically Scouts but are instead watered down assault suits. Just out of interest, if this is the case, what would you then consider a scout? I think a scout is someone who uses the suits bonuses to his/her advantage. Any mod can help a scout you know. Shield regulators for speedy recovery, armor reps for healing, shield and plates for health. Anything. I also have to say that Scout vs. Scout violence is the worst! It leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth lol. Only by killing the assailant will it be gone, that is if I can find him.
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 588	Posted - 2013.10.04 14:01:00 - [2449] - Quote Gh0st C0de wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: Poll: Which Nickname Represents Sidearm Scouts Most? Jazz Scouts Buzz Bombers Sub-Scout X____Fill_Your_Own______ -Turret Creepers -One-Hit-Wonders -Sidewinders Sidearm specialists
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 588	Posted - 2013.10.04 14:05:00 - [2450] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: Protected Void wrote: I suggested Shotty for a Community Spotlight. I think you should all go to this thread and support it: Shotty GoBang should get a Community Spotlight No. Shotty is low profile dampeners, he doesn't exxist...shhhhh.

Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 588	Posted - 2013.10.04 14:11:00 - [2451] - Quote BARDAS wrote: Spademan wrote: knight of 6 wrote: Spademan wrote: BARDAS wrote: Been bugging me a lot lately that most the fittings I been seeing are not technically Scouts but are instead watered down assault suits. Just out of interest, if this is the case, what would you then consider a scout? typically center a scout suits around biotics if you brick(plates) tank with an AR it's a fancy mlt assault but put in some biotics and it's a scout. my opinion anyway So you wouldn't consider a focus on stealth rather than biotics a scout? I agree with knight of 6. I would normally consider a Scout to be a fast and highly mobile. They would also be lightly armored or shielded and have stealth capabilities. Usually, with hit and run or hard to use but almost always one hit kill weapon(NK's). Weapons of choice currently being Nova Knives, Shotguns, SMGs, Pistols. Though I have come to the conclusion that this is all useless. An Assault or Logi can do anything we can do except better. The only advantage we DID have at one point was going really fast and being hard to hit. That got taken away with Aim Assist and suddenly the Assault Rifles are one shot killing me from almost Sniper distances. Its downright revolting right now how bad we are off right now. I can't even force myself to log on a play for the past week. I'm losing interest and not sure I even really want to log back on and play to be honest at this point. Yes, it's absolutely sickening! I hope CCP is working on the suits and modules! We are here for you.
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 205	Posted - 2013.10.04 14:49:00 - [2452] - Quote Niuvo wrote: Sidearm specialists Meh. Its kinda surprising, but suddenly, I find my non-militia dropsuit fits have power&CPU to spare... so I've been fitting them with very non-sidearm weapons. It's only when I have a militia, running an uplink, (or heaven forbid, an uplink AND a grenade) that I have to fit sidearms on it.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 394	Posted - 2013.10.04 15:39:00 - [2453] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: we should all donate 5mill isk to shotty for all the work and research he does for this page and the awesome scout community he has brought together No. lol its just isk shotty
Cass Caul Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 137	Posted - 2013.10.04 16:21:00 - [2454] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Is this the longest thread on the forums? It has to be. It's the biggest player created one. It is also the longest thread without a blue post ever, but that happened on like page 25.
First Prophet Unkn0wn Killers 1139	Posted - 2013.10.04 17:36:00 - [2455] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: we should all donate 5mill isk to shotty for all the work and research he does for this page and the awesome scout community he has brought together Yes. You got it!
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 395	Posted - 2013.10.04 17:40:00 - [2456] - Quote ^^^^^^ he fixed it for you
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1582	Posted - 2013.10.04 17:46:00 - [2457] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Poll: Which Nickname Represents Sidearm Scouts Most? Jazz Scouts Buzz Bombers Sub-Scout X____Fill_Your_Own______ Stalkers
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 395	Posted - 2013.10.04 17:49:00 - [2458] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Poll: Which Nickname Represents Sidearm Scouts Most? Jazz Scouts Buzz Bombers Sub-Scout X____Fill_Your_Own______ space cowboys
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 395	Posted - 2013.10.04 17:54:00 - [2459] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Poll: Which Nickname Represents Sidearm Scouts Most? Jazz Scouts Buzz Bombers Sub-Scout X____Fill_Your_Own______ 2 girls one pimp
Gh0st C0de Spirit Collective 62	Posted - 2013.10.04 18:21:00 - [2460] - Quote Niuvo wrote: BARDAS wrote: I agree with knight of 6. I would normally consider a Scout to be a fast and highly mobile. They would also be lightly armored or shielded and have stealth capabilities. Usually, with hit and run or hard to use but almost always one hit kill weapon(NK's). Weapons of choice currently being Nova Knives, Shotguns, SMGs, Pistols. Though I have come to the conclusion that this is all useless. An Assault or Logi can do anything we can do except better. The only advantage we DID have at one point was going really fast and being hard to hit. That got taken away with Aim Assist and suddenly the Assault Rifles are one shot killing me from almost Sniper distances. Its downright revolting right now how bad we are off right now. I can't even force myself to log on a play for the past week. I'm losing interest and not sure I even really want to log back on and play to be honest at this point. Yes, it's absolutely sickening! I hope CCP is working on the suits and modules! We are here for you. I concur, I am getting a bit disheartened. I have my fingers crossed that 1.5 will be beneficial for us. If not, I may purchase a 30 day passive omega in good faith and just collect SP while playing Skyrim until 1.6 comes along.



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