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BARDAS wrote:

Spademan wrote:

knight of 6 wrote:

Spademan wrote:

BARDAS wrote:

Been bugging me a lot lately that most the fittings I been seeing are not technically Scouts but are instead watered down assault suits.

Just out of interest, if this is the case, what would you then consider a scout?

typically center a scout suits around biotics if you brick(plates) tank with an AR it's a fancy mlt assault but put in some biotics and it's a scout. my opinion anyway

So you wouldn't consider a focus on stealth rather than biotics a scout?

I agree with knight of 6. I would normally consider a Scout to be a fast and highly mobile. They would also be lightly armored or shielded and have stealth capabilities. Usually, with hit and run or hard to use but almost always one hit kill weapon(NK's). Weapons of choice currently being Nova Knives, Shotguns, SMGs, Pistols. Though I have come to the conclusion that this is all useless. An Assault or Logi can do anything we can do except better. The only advantage we DID have at one point was going really fast and being hard to hit. That got taken away with Aim Assist and suddenly the Assault Rifles are one shot killing me from almost Sniper distances.

Its downright revolting right now how bad we are off right now. I can't even force myself to log on a play for the past week. I'm losing interest and not sure I even really want to log back on and play to be honest at this point.

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IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 186	Posted - 2013.10.03 05:21:00 - [2401] - Quote Nova knives are so freaking broken....it makes me sad....
Ghost Kaisar Pradox One 398	Posted - 2013.10.03 05:23:00 - [2402] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: Nova knives are so freaking broken....it makes me sad.... Makes everyone sad. Played a round today where both me and Doubletap were trying to knife an Assault AK.O point blank. He just circle strafed and spammed his SR till we both died. SO many blue sparks and false positives.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 1578	Posted - 2013.10.03 06:19:00 - [2403] - Quote So I've been runnin my scout with a scrambler lately in pubs... I like it. The assault scrambler is lovely. Super OP vs those pesky assault ck.0s My fit: Enhanced shield Adv ASCR Toxin Core nades K2 nano 1 Complx Plate 1 enhanced plate 2 Complx Repair It's been working pretty good. Get their shields down with the scrambler and if need be melt their armor with toxin. My only problem is that the ASCR runs out of ammo quick. But that's what the k2 is for
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 605	Posted - 2013.10.03 07:34:00 - [2404] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: So I've been runnin my scout with a scrambler lately in pubs... I like it. The assault scrambler is lovely. Super OP vs those pesky assault ck.0s My fit: Enhanced shield Adv ASCR Toxin Core nades K2 nano 1 Complx Plate 1 enhanced plate 2 Complx Repair It's been working pretty good. Get their shields down with the scrambler and if need be melt their armor with toxin. My only problem is that the ASCR runs out of ammo quick. But that's what the k2 is for Wouldn't this fit work better on Gallente Assault or G. Logi? Been bugging me a lot lately that most the fittings I been seeing are not technically Scouts but are instead watered down assault suits... or at least feel that way to me. To each their own I guess. We don't fill a unique role is what i'm getting at I guess.
Protected Void STRONG-ARMED BANDITS Public Disorder. 105	Posted - 2013.10.03 08:35:00 - [2405] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: So I've been runnin my scout with a scrambler lately in pubs... I like it. The assault scrambler is lovely. Super OP vs those pesky assault ck.0s My fit: Enhanced shield Adv ASCR Toxin Core nades K2 nano 1 Complx Plate 1 enhanced plate 2 Complx Repair It's been working pretty good. Get their shields down with the scrambler and if need be melt their armor with toxin. My only problem is that the ASCR runs out of ammo quick. But that's what the k2 is for I'm doing pretty decent with the semi-automatic scrambler rifles on my advanced Gal scout. Both the advanced and proto level ones are good. The standard one is a bit iffy. I have proficiency level 4. I can't remember the exact numbers now, but a charged headshot does damage approaching 500, I think (not taking shield bonus and armor resistance into account). Base damage * proficiency * headshot * charged shot, ie: 70-something * 1.12 * 1.8 * 3. A non-headshot still does a meaty 250+ damage. Once I get my proficiency to level 5 and start experimenting with damage mods, that makes for one beast of an alpha damage weapon. There's the overheat to take into account, of course, but once you get the self discipline to play it cool and take a couple of extra tenths of a second to aim each shot it works well. Getting hit by one of those charged headshots OHKs many players, and many of those that survive generally get a bit panicky and play for evasion rather than shooting back. Besides, after that initial charged shot, I still have enough heat tolerance left to fire a couple of follow-up shots doing about 80 damage a piece. It's excellent for flanking and keeping your distance. I pop out from cover once I've flanked them, hit them with a charged shot, hide while charging a new one and a lot of players don't figure out where the shots are coming from. If they do discover me, I find my speed with one complex KinCat is usually enough to escape, provided I've planned my escape route properly. Also, the sound is kind of vicious :-D I did use the Assault Scrambler almost exclusively before this build, but found I died a lot more after the update, since I have to get closer with it, and it makes a hell of a racket if I have to do some sustained firing.
Mechoj Nomreps Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 116	Posted - 2013.10.03 09:19:00 - [2406] - Quote Hello fellow scouts how are you all doing? I am still running around in my advanced minnie with standard shotgun and having fun. it does help that I have shotgun proficiency at four now. It seems to surprise reds when I keep spamming shotgun shots at them at a really fast rate
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1580	Posted - 2013.10.03 16:49:00 - [2407] - Quote BARDAS wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: So I've been runnin my scout with a scrambler lately in pubs... I like it. The assault scrambler is lovely. Super OP vs those pesky assault ck.0s My fit: Enhanced shield Adv ASCR Toxin Core nades K2 nano 1 Complx Plate 1 enhanced plate 2 Complx Repair It's been working pretty good. Get their shields down with the scrambler and if need be melt their armor with toxin. My only problem is that the ASCR runs out of ammo quick. But that's what the k2 is for Wouldn't this fit work better on Gallente Assault or G. Logi? Been bugging me a lot lately that most the fittings I been seeing are not technically Scouts but are instead watered down assault suits... or at least feel that way to me. To each their own I guess. We don't fill a unique role is what i'm getting at I guess. If there was a role we could fulfill that gave WP, we wouldn't need to be watered down assaults. The new WPs will be good for this but still not enough.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1352	Posted - 2013.10.03 18:59:00 - [2408] - Quote Not a scout but still: Funny
First Prophet Unkn0wn Killers 1133	Posted - 2013.10.03 19:12:00 - [2409] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: I miss seeing the word Minja on the forums I never really cared for that.
Lilah Silverstone The Arrow Project 141	Posted - 2013.10.03 19:18:00 - [2410] - Quote Can't wait till I get back to my ps3, lots of passive sp for shotgun skills. GÖÑ

DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 1589	Posted - 2013.10.03 19:22:00 - [2411] - Quote BARDAS wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: So I've been runnin my scout with a scrambler lately in pubs... I like it. The assault scrambler is lovely. Super OP vs those pesky assault ck.0s My fit: Enhanced shield Adv ASCR Toxin Core nades K2 nano 1 Complx Plate 1 enhanced plate 2 Complx Repair It's been working pretty good. Get their shields down with the scrambler and if need be melt their armor with toxin. My only problem is that the ASCR runs out of ammo quick. But that's what the k2 is for Wouldn't this fit work better on Gallente Assault or G. Logi? Been bugging me a lot lately that most the fittings I been seeing are not technically Scouts but are instead watered down assault suits... or at least feel that way to me. To each their own I guess. We don't fill a unique role is what i'm getting at I guess. I play my scout as a watered down assault anyways.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1353	Posted - 2013.10.03 19:29:00 - [2412] - Quote First Prophet wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: I miss seeing the word Minja on the forums I never really cared for that. Heresy! (See what I did there)
First Prophet Unkn0wn Killers 1133	Posted - 2013.10.03 19:30:00 - [2413] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: First Prophet wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: I miss seeing the word Minja on the forums I never really cared for that. Heresy! (See what I did there) Everyone come play Planetside with me. I don't know anyone else who plays it and it's not a fun game to lone wolf. :(
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 321	Posted - 2013.10.03 19:31:00 - [2414] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: I play my scout as a watered down assault anyways. I never liked the shotgun, I still run as an AR scout :)
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 1591	Posted - 2013.10.03 20:10:00 - [2415] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: I play my scout as a watered down assault anyways. I never liked the shotgun, I still run as an AR scout :) I love the shotgun. But I use the ASCR in pubs Alot. Once I get proto i might use it in PC.
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 328	Posted - 2013.10.03 20:16:00 - [2416] - Quote BARDAS wrote: Been bugging me a lot lately that most the fittings I been seeing are not technically Scouts but are instead watered down assault suits. Just out of interest, if this is the case, what would you then consider a scout?
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1354	Posted - 2013.10.03 20:36:00 - [2417] - Quote First Prophet wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: First Prophet wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: I miss seeing the word Minja on the forums I never really cared for that. Heresy! (See what I did there) Everyone come play Planetside with me. I don't know anyone else who plays it and it's not a fun game to lone wolf. :( The sver boys are thinking about trying it out
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 321	Posted - 2013.10.03 20:55:00 - [2418] - Quote Spademan wrote: BARDAS wrote: Been bugging me a lot lately that most the fittings I been seeing are not technically Scouts but are instead watered down assault suits. Just out of interest, if this is the case, what would you then consider a scout? typically center a scout suits around biotics if you brick(plates) tank with an AR it's a fancy mlt assault but put in some biotics and it's a scout. my opinion anyway
First Prophet Unkn0wn Killers 1133	Posted - 2013.10.03 20:56:00 - [2419] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: First Prophet wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: First Prophet wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: I miss seeing the word Minja on the forums I never really cared for that. Heresy! (See what I did there) Everyone come play Planetside with me. I don't know anyone else who plays it and it's not a fun game to lone wolf. :( The sver boys are thinking about trying it out Ew, SVER. But it's worth trying out. It has a lot Dust promised but never delivered. Jets, large scale battles, CLOAKING, gun attachments, MTACs or their equivalent anyway, cosmetic items for your vehicles / suits, I think you can even get your clan logo as a decal on your suits/vehicles but I'm not 100% sure on that.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 420	Posted - 2013.10.03 20:58:00 - [2420] - Quote First Prophet wrote: Ew, SVER. But it's worth trying out. It has a lot Dust promised but never delivered. Jets, large scale battles, CLOAKING, gun attachments, MTACs or their equivalent anyway, cosmetic items for your vehicles / suits, I think you can even get your clan logo as a decal on your suits/vehicles but I'm not 100% sure on that. BF4 for life! \o/

Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 329	Posted - 2013.10.03 20:59:00 - [2421] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: Spademan wrote: BARDAS wrote: Been bugging me a lot lately that most the fittings I been seeing are not technically Scouts but are instead watered down assault suits. Just out of interest, if this is the case, what would you then consider a scout? typically center a scout suits around biotics if you brick(plates) tank with an AR it's a fancy mlt assault but put in some biotics and it's a scout. my opinion anyway So you wouldn't consider a focus on stealth rather than biotics a scout?
First Prophet Unkn0wn Killers 1133	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:00:00 - [2422] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: First Prophet wrote: Ew, SVER. But it's worth trying out. It has a lot Dust promised but never delivered. Jets, large scale battles, CLOAKING, gun attachments, MTACs or their equivalent anyway, cosmetic items for your vehicles / suits, I think you can even get your clan logo as a decal on your suits/vehicles but I'm not 100% sure on that. BF4 for life! \o/ Still in beta though isn't it?
J0LLY R0G3R Unkn0wn Killers 134	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:03:00 - [2423] - Quote Life as a scout. Run, Scan, Kill. Run some more Been cutting up some vids finally. Scanners...ah help so much, but I still miss my remotes. Anywho this was a few minutes of a game week or so ago. Using my go to fit now, complex shields, basic plate, enhanced green, dual smgs and a scanner.
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 611	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:22:00 - [2424] - Quote Spademan wrote: knight of 6 wrote: Spademan wrote: BARDAS wrote: Been bugging me a lot lately that most the fittings I been seeing are not technically Scouts but are instead watered down assault suits. Just out of interest, if this is the case, what would you then consider a scout? typically center a scout suits around biotics if you brick(plates) tank with an AR it's a fancy mlt assault but put in some biotics and it's a scout. my opinion anyway So you wouldn't consider a focus on stealth rather than biotics a scout? I agree with knight of 6. I would normally consider a Scout to be a fast and highly mobile. They would also be lightly armored or shielded and have stealth capabilities. Usually, with hit and run or hard to use but almost always one hit kill weapon(NK's). Weapons of choice currently being Nova Knives, Shotguns, SMGs, Pistols. Though I have come to the conclusion that this is all useless. An Assault or Logi can do anything we can do except better. The only advantage we DID have at one point was going really fast and being hard to hit. That got taken away with Aim Assist and suddenly the Assault Rifles are one shot killing me from almost Sniper distances. Its downright revolting right now how bad we are off right now. I can't even force myself to log on a play for the past week. I'm losing interest and not sure I even really want to log back on and play to be honest at this point.
Skipper Jones KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Public Disorder. 831	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:59:00 - [2425] - Quote bunp. Just because I want to see how big this thread gets.
OZAROW warravens League of Infamy 785	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:03:00 - [2426] - Quote BARDAS wrote: Spademan wrote: knight of 6 wrote: Spademan wrote: BARDAS wrote: Been bugging me a lot lately that most the fittings I been seeing are not technically Scouts but are instead watered down assault suits. Just out of interest, if this is the case, what would you then consider a scout? typically center a scout suits around biotics if you brick(plates) tank with an AR it's a fancy mlt assault but put in some biotics and it's a scout. my opinion anyway So you wouldn't consider a focus on stealth rather than biotics a scout? I agree with knight of 6. I would normally consider a Scout to be a fast and highly mobile. They would also be lightly armored or shielded and have stealth capabilities. Usually, with hit and run or hard to use but almost always one hit kill weapon(NK's). Weapons of choice currently being Nova Knives, Shotguns, SMGs, Pistols. Though I have come to the conclusion that this is all useless. An Assault or Logi can do anything we can do except better. The only advantage we DID have at one point was going really fast and being hard to hit. That got taken away with Aim Assist and suddenly the Assault Rifles are one shot killing me from almost Sniper distances. Its downright revolting right now how bad we are off right now. I can't even force myself to log on a play for the past week. I'm losing interest and not sure I even really want to log back on and play to be honest at this point. Hang in there. Hommie, this page has become more of a support group lol. I was doing mega good till last night using the sg for the first time solidly in months. Last night I got mopped! I dont know if it was proto night or what but the AR seemed too good yesterday an my sg was crap for the first time in 3 weeks I went neg over half my matches so I feel ya, but hang in hopefully in 1.6 we get our game back
OZAROW warravens League of Infamy 785	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:43:00 - [2427] - Quote Mechoj Nomreps wrote: Hello fellow scouts how are you all doing? I am still running around in my advanced minnie with standard shotgun and having fun. it does help that I have shotgun proficiency at four now. It seems to surprise reds when I keep spamming shotgun shots at them at a really fast rate Yea mines at 4 too , they HATE that thing up close, they get all smg strafey! I'm a big fan of two in the back above the hips, drops a well armored suit QuickTime .
Everything Dies Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 131	Posted - 2013.10.04 01:31:00 - [2428] - Quote Just recently decided to dip my toes into the scout pond...and I'm having a blast so far! Unlike most (if not all) other scouts, I'm running strictly as a defender; if it all possible, I'll position myself close to a node that has a supply depot within easy reach. From there I drop my remote explosives (finding it a much better idea to cover three sides of a CRU rather than focus on nodes) and then find some place to take cover. And then I wait. Best feeling in the game--even better than a sniping headshot on a jumping target from 500m away--is running up to an enemy while he's busy hacking and headshotting him with a shotgun from an arm's -length away. My favorite battle is the one in which I went 13-0 with my poor little STD/Basic Gallente suit while successfully defending our node for the entire battle. Sadly, I rarely get the opportunity to stick with a scout suit for an entire battle, so that may be why that battle stands out to me. Spending this week's cap working towards unlocking the Gallente scout suits and claiming their passive bonus. Doubt I'll ever run anything above a STD fit, but that profile reduction should come in handy!
Gh0st C0de Spirit Collective 59	Posted - 2013.10.04 02:01:00 - [2429] - Quote Hello fellow scouts. I decided to pick up some nova knives today, because I enjoy having a varied weapon pool to draw from for different situations. I had my first nova knife kill. It was amazing, I stalked and killed the same poor sod three times as he tried to hack our various blaster installations. I had loads of fun. So, my new go to fit for the week is a Dragonfly with a CardReg, Profile Dampener, Precision Enhancer, and wielding a Scrambler Pistol and a set of Novas. I am alternating equipment based on situation, I usually switch between a scanner and links for this one so far. I die with three AR bullets or a single body shot from a militia sniper rifle. With pistols and knives I have a ridiculously stunted effective range. I have not had so much fun since I started playing. Pistol headshots and shankings are delightful. Does anyone else run a combo along these lines?
Llast 326 An Arkhos 200	Posted - 2013.10.04 02:12:00 - [2430] - Quote Gh0st C0de wrote: Hello fellow scouts. I decided to pick up some nova knives today, because I enjoy having a varied weapon pool to draw from for different situations. I had my first nova knife kill. It was amazing, I stalked and killed the same poor sod three times as he tried to hack our various blaster installations. I had loads of fun. So, my new go to fit for the week is a Dragonfly with a CardReg, Profile Dampener, Precision Enhancer, and wielding a Scrambler Pistol and a set of Novas. I am alternating equipment based on situation, I usually switch between a scanner and links for this one so far. I die with three AR bullets or a single body shot from a militia sniper rifle. With pistols and knives I have a ridiculously stunted effective range. I have not had so much fun since I started playing. Pistol headshots and shankings are delightful. Does anyone else run a combo along these lines? Very similar fits to what i use a lot. Dragonfly is my go to anti-proto fit, i make a lot of isk when people 'protostomp' Just added pistols to my arsenal, was exclusive NK before, but AR use put me in a position of needing some range. Sticking in small sockets and areas with cover helps the survivability,



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