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Varoth Drac wrote:

TerranKnight87 wrote:

What do you guys/gals/mutants think of the new delay and how that will affect pro Knifers?.

Not a pro-knifer, but my thoughts are:

It's a nerf but probably not a drastic one. It's not like shotgunning where I would decloak-fire in one fluid motion.

With knifing I decloak before reaching optimal strike position, switch weapon twice because I have to go past my combat rifle (I know some people go for 2 sidearms so they can switch straight from cloak to knives but not me), then I usually have to sprint again a bit if I am chasing someone or have to reposition based on last second changes in my target's movement. Finally I nearly always charge the knives ready to strike once in position/range.

Obviously I try to make this all happen as quickly as possible as I am very vulnerable during this time. So the period of vulnerability will be longer, but the overall process won't be much different.

People already know this is how knifing works, not trying to claim I'm an expert or anything. This is just how I see things playing out.

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Llast 326 An Arkhos 4838	Posted - 2014.10.16 17:33:00 - [23611] - Quote TerranKnight87 wrote: What do you guys/gals/mutants think of the new delay and how that will affect ~~pro~~ Knifers?. I don't know about anyone else but most of my Knifing does not come from a cloaked state. KRRROOOOOOM
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18170	Posted - 2014.10.16 18:08:00 - [23612] - Quote Framerate improvements are hugely exciting to me. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Appia Vibbia 3808	Posted - 2014.10.16 18:53:00 - [23613] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Framerate improvements are hugely exciting to me. Maybe we'll finally get a solid 20 frames per second! Personal Theme Song
Llast 326 An Arkhos 4845	Posted - 2014.10.16 19:04:00 - [23614] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Framerate improvements are hugely exciting to me. Maybe we'll finally get a solid 20 frames per second! Wowowooaaah Let's not get our hopes to high KRRROOOOOOM
mollerz 5601	Posted - 2014.10.16 19:06:00 - [23615] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: TerranKnight87 wrote: What do you guys/gals/mutants think of the new delay and how that will affect pro Knifers?. Not a pro-knifer, but my thoughts are: It's a nerf but probably not a drastic one. It's not like shotgunning where I would decloak-fire in one fluid motion. With knifing I decloak before reaching optimal strike position, switch weapon twice because I have to go past my combat rifle (I know some people go for 2 sidearms so they can switch straight from cloak to knives but not me), then I usually have to sprint again a bit if I am chasing someone or have to reposition based on last second changes in my target's movement. Finally I nearly always charge the knives ready to strike once in position/range. Obviously I try to make this all happen as quickly as possible as I am very vulnerable during this time. So the period of vulnerability will be longer, but the overall process won't be much different. People already know this is how knifing works, not trying to claim I'm an expert or anything. This is just how I see things playing out. You are spot on. I'm seriously fukn serious
TerranKnight87 Dead Man's Game RUST415 30	Posted - 2014.10.16 19:07:00 - [23616] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Framerate improvements are hugely exciting to me. Maybe we'll finally get a solid 20 frames per second! Still waiting on 15 lol. This is TechMechMeds tanker.
mollerz 5602	Posted - 2014.10.16 19:07:00 - [23617] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Framerate improvements are hugely exciting to me. That AND sprint bug front and center! I was floored. I mean, that is literally our xmas list! Hmm.. so which BPO should I buy... J/K... is it going to be on PS4? I'm seriously fukn serious
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18177	Posted - 2014.10.16 19:13:00 - [23618] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Framerate improvements are hugely exciting to me. Maybe we'll finally get a solid 20 frames per second! Remove a digit. You're being optimistic. It doesn't matter which digit. It's probably still more than what we have. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3292	Posted - 2014.10.16 19:49:00 - [23619] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Cross Atu wrote: So, this happened. Is it me or does that still come off as a half assed apology for FF, with a dash of "Holy **, Rattati made this workGÇª good thing because Legion might not fly" just asking I'll go out on a limb and say that I really** wish the first draft from Rattati and Rouge had made it through the review to release. I like this blog, because 1.9 (which by the way is a large part of the answer to the question asked of me a long time ago - "why would you buy BPOs") but the 'rough draft' from before polish was added could not IMO have been called half assed. That being said, this blog should in no way be taken as a "Legion is dead" thing, it is simply a focus on trying to take the life in Dust and make it an ongoing sustained thing. That's my best understanding. Cheers, Cross See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3292	Posted - 2014.10.16 19:51:00 - [23620] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Appia Vibbia wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Framerate improvements are hugely exciting to me. Maybe we'll finally get a solid 20 frames per second! Wowowooaaah Let's not get our hopes to high takes shot, says nothing See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18180	Posted - 2014.10.16 19:52:00 - [23621] - Quote Quafe suits are the most gloriously overblown thing I have ever seen. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3292	Posted - 2014.10.16 19:53:00 - [23622] - Quote mollerz wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Framerate improvements are hugely exciting to me. That AND sprint bug front and center! I was floored. I mean, that is literally our xmas list! Hmm.. so which BPO should I buy... J/K... is it going to be on PS4? There are no plans to migrate Dust 514 for any other platform at this time (or if there are no one is telling me ). See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
TerranKnight87 Dead Man's Game RUST415 33	Posted - 2014.10.16 19:53:00 - [23623] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Cross Atu wrote: So, this happened. Is it me or does that still come off as a half assed apology for FF, with a dash of "Holy **, Rattati made this workGÇª good thing because Legion might not fly" just asking I'll go out on a limb and say that I really** wish the first draft from Rattati and Rouge had made it through the review to release. I like this blog, because 1.9 (which by the way is a large part of the answer to the question asked of me a long time ago - "why would you buy BPOs") but the 'rough draft' from before polish was added could not IMO have been called half assed. That being said, this blog should in no way be taken as a "Legion is dead" thing, it is simply a focus on trying to take the life in Dust and make it an ongoing sustained thing. That's my best understanding. Cheers, Cross Legion is dead and really the beta for dust then. This is TechMechMeds tanker.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3292	Posted - 2014.10.16 19:54:00 - [23624] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Quafe suits are the most gloriously overblown thing I have ever seen. ^True statement is true... I know they're assaults and all but I think I want to try knifing in them (cloak-less of course) and just see if I can both 1) break 11 kills & 2) have a break even kdr - both in the same match and not using another weapon of course See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3292	Posted - 2014.10.16 19:55:00 - [23625] - Quote TerranKnight87 wrote: Cross Atu wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Cross Atu wrote: So, this happened. Is it me or does that still come off as a half assed apology for FF, with a dash of "Holy **, Rattati made this workGÇª good thing because Legion might not fly" just asking I'll go out on a limb and say that I really** wish the first draft from Rattati and Rouge had made it through the review to release. I like this blog, because 1.9 (which by the way is a large part of the answer to the question asked of me a long time ago - "why would you buy BPOs") but the 'rough draft' from before polish was added could not IMO have been called half assed. That being said, this blog should in no way be taken as a "Legion is dead" thing, it is simply a focus on trying to take the life in Dust and make it an ongoing sustained thing. That's my best understanding. Cheers, Cross Legion is dead and really the beta for dust then. lol, yeah something like that See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 4829	Posted - 2014.10.16 19:56:00 - [23626] - Quote Astroia Merlen wrote: Amarr Wall of Text Hello. Its been awhile since we have had one of these. TerranKnight87 wrote: What do you guys/gals/mutants think of the new delay and how that will affect pro Knifers?. Like Llast said, knifing usually doesn't come right from cloak. And with the Sprint Bug being fixed (Hallelujah!), we are going to more than come out on top. Unless it is an insane delay like 5 seconds. One second should be plenty to be honest, so we will see. I won't lie, 1.9 has me excited. You can always tell a Millford Minja
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3296	Posted - 2014.10.16 20:00:00 - [23627] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Astroia Merlen wrote: Amarr Wall of Text Hello. Its been awhile since we have had one of these. TerranKnight87 wrote: What do you guys/gals/mutants think of the new delay and how that will affect pro Knifers?. Like Llast said, knifing usually doesn't come right from cloak. And with the Sprint Bug being fixed (Hallelujah!), we are going to more than come out on top. Unless it is an insane delay like 5 seconds. One second should be plenty to be honest, so we will see. I won't lie, 1.9 has me excited. As usual, if it is over the top in some way get me a sleep spreadsheet and I will get it to someone who's name starts with "R" for review. Mixes contents of the red and blue jars in honor of Quafe and 1.9 See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4097	Posted - 2014.10.16 20:01:00 - [23628] - Quote So...do we get the heavy weapons and Amarr/Minmatar vehicles with 1.9? OH! Can I bring up weapon mods? Is this our Christmas? Wait...what if this was the plan all along ever since Rattati said "It's not Christmas" He told us right then and there without telling us anything. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Llast 326 An Arkhos 4850	Posted - 2014.10.16 20:05:00 - [23629] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: TerranKnight87 wrote: Cross Atu wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Cross Atu wrote: So, this happened. Is it me or does that still come off as a half assed apology for FF, with a dash of "Holy **, Rattati made this workGÇª good thing because Legion might not fly" just asking I'll go out on a limb and say that I really** wish the first draft from Rattati and Rouge had made it through the review to release. I like this blog, because 1.9 (which by the way is a large part of the answer to the question asked of me a long time ago - "why would you buy BPOs") but the 'rough draft' from before polish was added could not IMO have been called half assed. That being said, this blog should in no way be taken as a "Legion is dead" thing, it is simply a focus on trying to take the life in Dust and make it an ongoing sustained thing. That's my best understanding. Cheers, Cross Legion is dead and really the beta for dust then. lol, yeah something like that Now I want to see the unpolished draft Also loved the link KRRROOOOOOM
Llast 326 An Arkhos 4851	Posted - 2014.10.16 20:13:00 - [23630] - Quote Random thought sparked this post RattatiGÇª stop doing such a good job Mess something up hugeGÇª We have seen how this worksGÇª CCP will see you doing so damn well and pull you to work on something that's failing or needs more workGÇª We don't want to lose you KRRROOOOOOM

Bayeth Mal Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1601	Posted - 2014.10.16 20:45:00 - [23631] - Quote I'm mostly excited about being able to sell all the random crap I have lying around. I'm not going to play but I'll at least log in to liquidate my assets. Now I just need to be able to sell faction/aurum gear for isk (I'm sitting on so many proto assault suits I can never use). We'll bang, OK?
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4098	Posted - 2014.10.16 20:51:00 - [23632] - Quote Bayeth Mal wrote: I'm mostly excited about being able to sell all the random crap I have lying around. I'm not going to play but I'll at least log in to liquidate my assets. Now I just need to be able to sell faction/aurum gear for isk (I'm sitting on so many proto assault suits I can never use). Wait, what? We're getting a market? Fo' realsies? I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17298	Posted - 2014.10.16 20:52:00 - [23633] - Quote aur is sellable. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2405443#post2405443 CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Assault Rifles =// Unlocked
TerranKnight87 Dead Man's Game RUST415 35	Posted - 2014.10.16 21:00:00 - [23634] - Quote Bayeth Mal wrote: I'm mostly excited about being able to sell all the random crap I have lying around. I'm not going to play but I'll at least log in to liquidate my assets. Now I just need to be able to sell faction/aurum gear for isk (I'm sitting on so many proto assault suits I can never use). Hahaha, defo. The market ain't got sht on my inventory lol. This is TechMechMeds tanker.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 4856	Posted - 2014.10.16 21:05:00 - [23635] - Quote Spademan wrote: Bayeth Mal wrote: I'm mostly excited about being able to sell all the random crap I have lying around. I'm not going to play but I'll at least log in to liquidate my assets. Now I just need to be able to sell faction/aurum gear for isk (I'm sitting on so many proto assault suits I can never use). Wait, what? We're getting a market? Fo' realsies? NPC market So I can't give my cool stuff to Jace But can sell back so much salvage that has accumulated in my inventory I wonder what the selling price of Gastun's will be I might fund my own PC attack of those alone KRRROOOOOOM
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3297	Posted - 2014.10.16 21:15:00 - [23636] - Quote Bayeth Mal wrote: I'm mostly excited about being able to sell all the random crap I have lying around. I'm not going to play but I'll at least log in to liquidate my assets. Now I just need to be able to sell faction/aurum gear for isk (I'm sitting on so many proto assault suits I can never use). Who says you can't? Guess we'll have to wait for the patch notes to see for sure. Also, 3/8 with just under 1100 WP in my 'Mac the Knife' suit. Still some work to be done before I get to 11/11 but as far as it goes it's not a bad place to start. EDIT: Aww, but my way was more fun Iron Wolf Saber wrote: aur is sellable. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2405443#post2405443 See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Appia Vibbia 3812	Posted - 2014.10.16 21:33:00 - [23637] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Random thought sparked this post RattatiGÇª stop doing such a good job Mess something up hugeGÇª We have seen how this worksGÇª CCP will see you doing so damn well and pull you to work on something that's failing or needs more workGÇª We don't want to lose you Placing 10million ISk down on them not actually improving the rendering of characters at distance or the massive Z-fighting issues. or rendering small objects at a distance "(like crates, boxes, and railings) It's going to be another patch note like "Improved rendering" when all they did was alter the thrusters on a dropship's appearance. Personal Theme Song
Appia Nappia 1361	Posted - 2014.10.16 22:37:00 - [23638] - Quote oooh, fancy! I just got 10 free days of EVE, redemable by the Seconds of November So very tired
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4102	Posted - 2014.10.16 23:13:00 - [23639] - Quote Seems to me most "discussions" on the forums nowadays boil down to "I think your proposal goes too far" Vs "I think your proposal doesn't go too far enough" I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 8736	Posted - 2014.10.16 23:32:00 - [23640] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Astroia Merlen wrote: Amarr Wall of Text Hello. Its been awhile since we have had one of these. TerranKnight87 wrote: What do you guys/gals/mutants think of the new delay and how that will affect pro Knifers?. Like Llast said, knifing usually doesn't come right from cloak. And with the Sprint Bug being fixed (Hallelujah!), we are going to more than come out on top. Unless it is an insane delay like 5 seconds. One second should be plenty to be honest, so we will see. I won't lie, 1.9 has me excited. As usual, if it is over the top in some way get me a slip spreadsheet and I will get it to someone who's name starts with "R" for review. Mixes contents of the red and blue jars in honor of Quafe and 1.9 nono, its less than a second, 0.33 seconds to be precise. It may go up but it's meant to be a fluid motion, just not straight out of cloak. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"




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