Ready to rock for what, out of curiosity?

I'm not sure I can see what there is to do after maxing out your kit.

Raid.

How long d'ya think it'll be until they release a DLC with a new race and class?

But if you've maxed out your kit, why bother with the raid?

I'm not even going to bother [Logging into DUST] because of the changes [to sniper rifles]

Seems like he's just butthurt his profession got changed. Snipers needed to leave the redline, and with the changes they've become more dynamic, interesting, skill oriented and fair.

Pseudo, you're either full of **** or clueless about snipers. Maybe both.

I avoided tagging your under 200 raw HP suit every time you were at Delta or Charlie, or on the bridge between Alpha and Bravo, running around all carefree like it couldn't happen to you.

Next time.

I'd lean towards clueless, snipers aren't my area of expertise. I'm not making a statement of fact so much as looking for somebody to call me an idiot and tell me why I'm wrong. So far you've got that first part covered but I'm still waiting on the latter. I still don't know why you think snipers are worse post-patch. If snipers can still redline snipe, then what's the downside? Less charged shots? Less zoom? I don't get it.

Feel free, I don't give a damn about my k/d. That suit's not made to last anyways.

As far as your suit, aye, I saw it was the STD suit. Now that I've got my mk.0 I've been practicing STD with STD knives for the event to come, myself. It feels so strange, not OHKing heavies.

I remember when you started Knifing and we went out togetherGǪ. You had a Amarr Heavy pinned up against a wall you stabbed him three or four times before he went down
Good times
Good times

The range nerf didn't bring them out of the redline. You know what it did? It made it more difficult for legit snipers like me to eliminate redline snipers without having to leave my strategically optimal position. Take Ashland, for instance. If you're on the side with the three silos, that big hillside is a favorite. It used to be that, from the other side's ridge, I could reach any sniper sitting up there and maintain influence at Delta, Delta CRU, Alpha, limited influence at Charlie and even Echo. Now, from that ridge I still have influence at Delta, Delta CRU, Alpha, and Charlie, but I can no longer neutralize the snipers who run up to that extremely unimaginative spit on the hillside because 450m isn't quite enough. In order to counter-snipe those guys, my best bets are the building across the road from Charlie, which has what, three ladders to climb it? Or the pipes, or just be brazen and snipe from Alpha or Bravo. Any of these options is suicide. Which makes the best option for countering those snipers either an ADS, a forge gun or a rail tank.

The sniper rifle did not get buffed. It was normalized for current HP values. The range nerf reduced viable locations to run overwatch from. The range nerf does not prevent even those using Tactical Sniper Rifle from redline sniping on any map.

This makes sense. Because of the range reduction, the only way to countersnipe a redline sniper -- in some cases -- is to assume a sub-optimal, potentially predictable position. Right? So ...

What would happen if two mercs simultaneously assumed different, sub-optimal countersniping positions? What would happen if a "forward recon" scout cloaked his way into a sub-optimal countersniping position and decloaked, rifle at the ready?

Please don't take these questions to mean I'm dismissing sniper concerns. I'm fascinated by the redline sniper quandary, and many perspectives which have come up in discussion I otherwise would've never considered.

I take this to mean you've been sniping since Delta :-)
Does this mean we'll be getting your official report soon?

Granted I'm a noob sniper, but I've really enjoyed what I've seen of the changes. Looking forward to hearing the ups and downs from your brutally honest point-of-view. Perhaps something more substantive than Symbiotic's "I quit"?

I really liked this thread. Then this gem.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2380865#post2380865

WTF? Why didn't they bother to run this by us?

Look at the authors for one. Also I would assume many are afraid to show their faces here knowing their "well thought out" proposals will be blown to pieces.

I'm not usually one to say something is just bad at its core, but that ewar proposal is just freaking awful. Why would heavies ever get a scan range bonus over every other drop suit?

Thanks Jaceon, that clears some things up. And yeah the charge sniper nerf was really stupid and short sighted, it'll almost certainly be reversed to some extent soon.

Potentially, with a Charge SR, that scout could eliminate the threat. On the other hand, that scout might be seen moving under cloak - the human eye is attracted to movement and if the redliner happens to be passing his scope that way while the scout's moving under cloak, he's going to be trying for that easy kill. As soon as you crouch to take your shot, he'll have his headshot while you're waiting for the sway to stop so you can line up your own headshot.

In other words, one side or the other would need a little bit of luck - the redliner would need more luck than the countering cloaked scout, though.

If the scout sprinted under cloak to a position affording some cover, and waited for say, 30-45 seconds for the redliner to assume they just lost the guy and go back to looking for targets, that'd be a good time for, say, a well-tanked sentinel to offer a diversion. As long as nobody shoots at the damn redline sniper before the scout with the Charge SR does. Nothing I hate more than lining up the headshot on a redliner and then some jerkoff in a LAV, or an ADS, or a lesser-armed sniper spooks him right as I'm about to fire.

EDIT: I say Charge SR, just because that's the only rifle where you know one headshot will be enough. The Ishukone or Kaalakiota might just as well be enough, but the Charge is as close to a guarantee as you can get, now that we have the 315% headshot multiplier and you only have one target in mind.

Lol, oh gods. That's so ******* worthless. It's a prime example of when I was saying the Sniper Rifle is ******* ruined because it's only good for situational uses.

You think it's worth your time to spend an entire minute and change to take out one guy that has no real influence on the battlefield. A guy you only want to kill because he shot you once. Or because you're spawn camping everyone else on the team and it's not fair that they got away.

You'd be better off calling in a Viper/Gorgon hoping out in the red line, killing him, then accepting your fate. It's be faster, you'd have less of a chance of dying. . . wait, let me just make that clear you have less chance dying running into the redline for a suicide kill than you do running into a sub-optimal location to snipe. . you'd also be more productive for your team just ignoring them.