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Morathi III wrote:

voidfaction wrote:

Morathi III wrote:

Scout need a nerf on 4 point

-radar only need to show a dot, without knowing where ppl look
-cooldown on cloak need to be longer
-seriously the kid stuff of the nova knife on tank... C'mon
-need to glow like when moving with cloak while hacking

My tough... Discuss

need more then glow while hacking. I would say pulsating bright neon green with at least 10 arrows pointing as they rotate around the scout flashing yellow and on top of that any dmg taken while hacking get a 100x multiplier with full auto aim assist to anyone in weapon range of the scout.
I mean really a glow while hacking? cmon OBJECTIVE is flashing that it is being hacked and you see nobody at the terminal kinda gives that one away.
if your camping a CRU, Turret, etc and you missed the shimmer run up to it. then your not a very good camper. Or if you don't circle around CRU, Turrets, etc looking for the slight blur or reticle to turn orange/red (not sure with my eyes) then maybe you should just learn to be in less of a hurry and actually TRY to find them.

Now the other points I can see the point of to a degree.
lose the angle give HP buff
longer cooldown on cloaks give a HP buff
you see I dont play the 800HP scout so that added intel and cooldown copensates for my lack of HP. I cant tank a shot poping out to see what direction enemy is facing. and cooldown is for my rapid escape because I can not tank Hits running away in an open field of enemy.

Now finally the NK tank dmg. LOL
yes that is a joke to me too. a plasma knife can do dmg to a tank but my plasma rifle, shotgun and pistol can not.

my feeling with the fact of showing only the doth is for the SG scout complain, the SG dont need a buff, its the fact to know where to go by knowing where ppl watch make the shotty scout OP ... In skirm and dom, in ambush its an other story. For the point of glowing while hacking ... The logic is you glow when you move and actually you made action of movement with arms whe hacki ng . My two other point, well its idea, i play scout since close beta, i didnt haved that stuff and did well, throwing the cioldown question to see what ppl think and the NK on tank its not that important but derail in balance of the game can,be so.

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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2375	Posted - 2014.09.21 23:58:00 - [22351] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Varoth Drac wrote: I believe I mentioned this a few pages back, but I think scan range extenders should be buffed (possibly other EWAR mods). Sadly I don't have time to go into details at the moment. Essentially my thinking was, that instead of limiting scout suit's ability to fit like a light assault, CCP make it easier for assault suits to do the same. Tank modules are very effective, hence why scout suits stacking hp can become an "assault light" suit without too much difficulty. You get decent hp from modules and good regen, speed and EWAR from scout base stats. This is a very good fit for solo slaying as EWAR is very effective. Sadly if an assault wants to do the same thing by fitting EWAR and regen mods instead of tank it is more difficult as EWAR mods are poor in comparison to tank mods. If it only took 1 range extender to give an assault a scan range approaching a scout I think that would be balanced. Nobody could complain about tanked scouts if an assault can make the same fit (same with logis). Currently assault suits are kind of limited in fitting options as EWAR mods are ineffective for them. Buffing range extenders opens up more passive scanning fitting opportunities for medium suits and gives more reason for mediums to use dampeners, adding to variety. I managed to make a good approximation of a tanked scout using a min assault suit, but it was let down by having to fit 2 comp range extenders to get to a scout suit's base scan range. Scanning is not really much use bellow about 25m i feel. I'm inclined to agree. Build diversity is healthy, and Assaults are currently afforded precisely zero reason to ever use a Range Extender. If it paid them utility comparable to that of plates or reps, perhaps they'd use it in pubs (though I strongly doubt they'd use it in PC). That said, I'm under the impression from Cross here that Logis are the suits in need of hugs ... namely something they can be made good at which won't overlap too far into the role of an existing specialist. Assaults are exceptionally good in their role at the moment (kicking arse) ... do they actually need free hugs? After the MCC the number of assault players will skyrocket Particularly minmitar and amarr. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
Appia Nappia 1087	Posted - 2014.09.22 00:10:00 - [22352] - Quote bahahahaha! OMG, today was amazing. I got in a bunch of matches. Of the Ambush matches only 1 was close. That was my final match that I decided to afk while I typed out messages to people over PSN. The others were great. The winning team always had at least 30 clones left. Of the OMS matches, they were so much better. Usually one side had 50 clones left. lol I love how the calculation takes in lifetime stats. I get to play with Nyain San in every match. One of the matches, it was 3 Nyain San kids, me, and a squad of 3 from another corp, and some other people that were in player-corps. The other team? 16 NPC corp players. It was hilariously bad. So very tired
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 5099	Posted - 2014.09.22 02:34:00 - [22353] - Quote Every where I look someone is moaning about a Scout. All the salty butthurt! You guys are doing good work. Keep those tears flowing, Brothers. o7 Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Right-wing Extremist Nos Nothi 1246	Posted - 2014.09.22 02:36:00 - [22354] - Quote Frame tweeted the clone count - 2.1M mk.0 Eng 5 SniProf 5 :D Jaceon Pale-eye. And you shall know me by the sound of Charge SR bullets whizzing by your head as I miss repeatedly.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 5099	Posted - 2014.09.22 02:37:00 - [22355] - Quote Right-wing Extremist wrote: Frame tweeted the clone count - 2.1M \o/ Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
hfderrtgvcd 480	Posted - 2014.09.22 02:38:00 - [22356] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Every where I look someone is moaning about the Scout! All that butthurt ... You guys must be doing good work :-) Keep those salty tears flowing, Brothers. o7 Got hatemail while running a militia plasma cannon on a scout with no hp mods. Made my day. You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Morathi III Pro Hic Immortalis 214	Posted - 2014.09.22 02:42:00 - [22357] - Quote 35-0 with PLC!!!! 3 hatemail French Canadian Scrubs scout
Llast 326 An Arkhos 4552	Posted - 2014.09.22 02:46:00 - [22358] - Quote Morathi III wrote: 35-0 with PLC!!!! 3 hatemail not lost your touch i see KRRROOOOOOM
Morathi III Pro Hic Immortalis 214	Posted - 2014.09.22 02:51:00 - [22359] - Quote Scout need a nerf on 4 point -radar only need to show a dot, without knowing where ppl look -cooldown on cloak need to be longer -seriously the kid stuff of the nova knife on tank... C'mon -need to glow like when moving with cloak while hacking My tough... Discuss French Canadian Scrubs scout
Right-wing Extremist Nos Nothi 1247	Posted - 2014.09.22 02:57:00 - [22360] - Quote No. No more nerfs. Jaceon Pale-eye. And you shall know me by the sound of Charge SR bullets whizzing by your head as I miss repeatedly.

Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 535	Posted - 2014.09.22 03:01:00 - [22361] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Every where I look someone is moaning about the Scout! All that butthurt and angst ... You guys must be doing good work :-) Keep those salty tears flowing, Brothers. o7 Got two pieces of hate mail in a row yesterday. I pretty much never get hate mail. :') Stabby-stabber extraordinaire I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Morathi III Pro Hic Immortalis 215	Posted - 2014.09.22 03:11:00 - [22362] - Quote Right-wing Extremist wrote: No. No more nerfs. Well yeah... Minmatar scout is fine... not really need a nerf lol but seriously the NK things on tank... I mean not because your suit is bad that mean it need a silly things like that... Honestly? French Canadian Scrubs scout
LeGoose SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 562	Posted - 2014.09.22 03:26:00 - [22363] - Quote All you guys talking about hate mail males me wish I actually got some. There are nights I purposely try and get hate mail to no avail. What is your secret?! I currently have just about everything people hate to proto aside from vehicles. ScR, Sniper, shotgun, combat rifle, nova knives, mass driver, and cloak. What do I need to do to harvest these tears? Click it! I dare you...
hfderrtgvcd 484	Posted - 2014.09.22 03:26:00 - [22364] - Quote Morathi III wrote: Right-wing Extremist wrote: No. No more nerfs. Well yeah... Minmatar scout is fine... not really need a nerf lol but seriously the NK things on tank... I mean not because your suit is bad that mean it need a silly things like that... Honestly? If you don't think stabbing tanks is awesome, then I don't really know what to say. You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
voidfaction Nos Nothi 544	Posted - 2014.09.22 03:37:00 - [22365] - Quote Morathi III wrote: Scout need a nerf on 4 point -radar only need to show a dot, without knowing where ppl look -cooldown on cloak need to be longer -seriously the kid stuff of the nova knife on tank... C'mon -need to glow like when moving with cloak while hacking My tough... Discuss need more then glow while hacking. I would say pulsating bright neon green with at least 10 arrows pointing as they rotate around the scout flashing yellow and on top of that any dmg taken while hacking get a 100x multiplier with full auto aim assist to anyone in weapon range of the scout. I mean really a glow while hacking? cmon OBJECTIVE is flashing that it is being hacked and you see nobody at the terminal kinda gives that one away. if your camping a CRU, Turret, etc and you missed the shimmer run up to it. then your not a very good camper. Or if you don't circle around CRU, Turrets, etc looking for the slight blur or reticle to turn orange/red (not sure with my eyes) then maybe you should just learn to be in less of a hurry and actually TRY to find them. Now the other points I can see the point of to a degree. lose the angle give HP buff longer cooldown on cloaks give a HP buff you see I dont play the 800HP scout so that added intel and cooldown copensates for my lack of HP. I cant tank a shot poping out to see what direction enemy is facing. and cooldown is for my rapid escape because I can not tank Hits running away in an open field of enemy. Now finally the NK tank dmg. LOL yes that is a joke to me too. a plasma knife can do dmg to a tank but my plasma rifle, shotgun and pistol can not.
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 536	Posted - 2014.09.22 03:49:00 - [22366] - Quote Morathi III wrote: 35-0 with PLC!!!! 3 hatemail Is such a thing even possible? @Not wanting nova knife damage on tanks... what? It does next to no damage. The only way you're going to kill a tank with them is if it's flipped on its back like a turtle or if it has no driver. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
voidfaction Nos Nothi 545	Posted - 2014.09.22 03:55:00 - [22367] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Morathi III wrote: 35-0 with PLC!!!! 3 hatemail Is such a thing even possible? @Not wanting nova knife damage on tanks... what? It does next to no damage. The only way you're going to kill a tank with them is if it's flipped on its back like a turtle or if it has no driver. Thats still better than doing dmg with plasma rifle, shotgun, and pistol Or do I need to melee with the plasma rifle, shotgun, or pistol to do dmg, lol
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 4299	Posted - 2014.09.22 04:01:00 - [22368] - Quote On the tank topic, I finally took out my first one the other day. I think it was stuck. Either that, or the driver was super stupid and just thought he had easy pickings getting out of the thing to let me knife him and then finish knifing his tank. Good times. You can always tell a Millford Minja
Appia Nappia 1087	Posted - 2014.09.22 04:55:00 - [22369] - Quote LeGoose wrote: All you guys talking about hate mail males me wish I actually got some. There are nights I purposely try and get hate mail to no avail. What is your secret?! I currently have just about everything people hate to proto aside from vehicles. ScR, Sniper, shotgun, combat rifle, nova knives, mass driver, and cloak. What do I need to do to harvest these tears? You also have to do well with then Lol, did I tell you about the hate mail I got for being a cloak shotgun ** *** when I was running my 'Templar' Assault A-I with STD Shotgun? So very tired
Morathi III Pro Hic Immortalis 217	Posted - 2014.09.22 05:03:00 - [22370] - Quote voidfaction wrote: Morathi III wrote: Scout need a nerf on 4 point -radar only need to show a dot, without knowing where ppl look -cooldown on cloak need to be longer -seriously the kid stuff of the nova knife on tank... C'mon -need to glow like when moving with cloak while hacking My tough... Discuss need more then glow while hacking. I would say pulsating bright neon green with at least 10 arrows pointing as they rotate around the scout flashing yellow and on top of that any dmg taken while hacking get a 100x multiplier with full auto aim assist to anyone in weapon range of the scout. I mean really a glow while hacking? cmon OBJECTIVE is flashing that it is being hacked and you see nobody at the terminal kinda gives that one away. if your camping a CRU, Turret, etc and you missed the shimmer run up to it. then your not a very good camper. Or if you don't circle around CRU, Turrets, etc looking for the slight blur or reticle to turn orange/red (not sure with my eyes) then maybe you should just learn to be in less of a hurry and actually TRY to find them. Now the other points I can see the point of to a degree. lose the angle give HP buff longer cooldown on cloaks give a HP buff you see I dont play the 800HP scout so that added intel and cooldown copensates for my lack of HP. I cant tank a shot poping out to see what direction enemy is facing. and cooldown is for my rapid escape because I can not tank Hits running away in an open field of enemy. Now finally the NK tank dmg. LOL yes that is a joke to me too. a plasma knife can do dmg to a tank but my plasma rifle, shotgun and pistol can not. my feeling with the fact of showing only the doth is for the SG scout complain, the SG dont need a buff, its the fact to know where to go by knowing where ppl watch make the shotty scout OP ... In skirm and dom, in ambush its an other story. For the point of glowing while hacking ... The logic is you glow when you move and actually you made action of movement with arms whe hacki ng . My two other point, well its idea, i play scout since close beta, i didnt haved that stuff and did well, throwing the cioldown question to see what ppl think and the NK on tank its not that important but derail in balance of the game can,be so. French Canadian Scrubs scout

LeGoose SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 562	Posted - 2014.09.22 05:18:00 - [22371] - Quote Appia Nappia wrote: LeGoose wrote: All you guys talking about hate mail males me wish I actually got some. There are nights I purposely try and get hate mail to no avail. What is your secret?! I currently have just about everything people hate to proto aside from vehicles. ScR, Sniper, shotgun, combat rifle, nova knives, mass driver, and cloak. What do I need to do to harvest these tears? You also have to do well with then Lol, did I tell you about the hate mail I got for being a cloak shotgun ** *** when I was running my 'Templar' Assault A-I with STD Shotgun? Is getting 30+ kills with each of those aside from the sniper not hatemail worthy? And no you did not tell this tale. Story time! Click it! I dare you...
Morathi III Pro Hic Immortalis 217	Posted - 2014.09.22 05:22:00 - [22372] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Morathi III wrote: 35-0 with PLC!!!! 3 hatemail Is such a thing even possible? @Not wanting nova knife damage on tanks... what? It does next to no damage. The only way you're going to kill a tank with them is if it's flipped on its back like a turtle or if it has no driver. Ok ok my side arm was a ScP Carthum... So 25 of the 35 was with the PLC, when i was in trouble .... Probably a Carthum kill lol French Canadian Scrubs scout
Appia Nappia 1087	Posted - 2014.09.22 05:26:00 - [22373] - Quote Morathi III wrote: i play scout since close beta, i didnt haved that stuff and did well, throwing the cioldown question to see what ppl think and the NK on tank its not that important but detail in balance of the game can,be so. NK dealt damage to tanks during closed and open beta Also, here are some things that have changed since beta: You can't use speed as a form of armor to reduce hit-detection, the shotgun lost range, the shotgun lost rate of fire, all dropsuits had far lower HP. 250 HP on a Scout A-Series used to feel like a lot. Shotguns could kill in 2 hits. You're right, you didn't have a cloak back then and did well, but your speed gave you protection and your shotgun was a much larger threat. There's no need for worse cooldown when it already requires 50% charge to use. Especially when anyone competent can see the glowing blue outlines So very tired
Morathi III Pro Hic Immortalis 217	Posted - 2014.09.22 05:30:00 - [22374] - Quote LeGoose wrote: Appia Nappia wrote: LeGoose wrote: All you guys talking about hate mail males me wish I actually got some. There are nights I purposely try and get hate mail to no avail. What is your secret?! I currently have just about everything people hate to proto aside from vehicles. ScR, Sniper, shotgun, combat rifle, nova knives, mass driver, and cloak. What do I need to do to harvest these tears? You also have to do well with then Lol, did I tell you about the hate mail I got for being a cloak shotgun ** * when I was running my 'Templar' Assault A-I with STD Shotgun? Is getting 30+ kills with each of those aside from the sniper not hatemail worthy? And no you did not tell this tale. Story time! I remember a day ... I saw a cal scout with a MD i laughed in my head and i said this guy made a ***** noob combo, near the end the guy killed me i was so pissed i wanted to send a hatemail, the name spawned... LeGoose so i sended a gg instead :) French Canadian Scrubs scout
Appia Nappia 1087	Posted - 2014.09.22 05:30:00 - [22375] - Quote LeGoose wrote: Appia Nappia wrote: LeGoose wrote: All you guys talking about hate mail males me wish I actually got some. There are nights I purposely try and get hate mail to no avail. What is your secret?! I currently have just about everything people hate to proto aside from vehicles. ScR, Sniper, shotgun, combat rifle, nova knives, mass driver, and cloak. What do I need to do to harvest these tears? You also have to do well with then Lol, did I tell you about the hate mail I got for being a cloak shotgun ** *** when I was running my 'Templar' Assault A-I with STD Shotgun? Is getting 30+ kills with each of those aside from the sniper not hatemail worthy? And no you did not tell this tale. Story time! Awww no hatemail for 30+ kill games? And there's isn't really a story. I ran my BPO Assault because I was just ambush'ing and got hate mail for being a scout So very tired
Right-wing Extremist Nos Nothi 1248	Posted - 2014.09.22 05:40:00 - [22376] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2370025#post2370025 Jaceon Pale-eye. And you shall know me by the sound of Charge SR bullets whizzing by your head as I miss repeatedly.
Morathi III Pro Hic Immortalis 217	Posted - 2014.09.22 06:03:00 - [22377] - Quote Appia Nappia wrote: Morathi III wrote: i play scout since close beta, i didnt haved that stuff and did well, throwing the cioldown question to see what ppl think and the NK on tank its not that important but detail in balance of the game can,be so. NK dealt damage to tanks during closed and open beta Also, here are some things that have changed since beta: You can't use speed as a form of armor to reduce hit-detection, the shotgun lost range, the shotgun lost rate of fire, all dropsuits had far lower HP. 250 HP on a Scout A-Series used to feel like a lot. Shotguns could kill in 2 hits. You're right, you didn't have a cloak back then and did well, but your speed gave you protection and your shotgun was a much larger threat. There's no need for worse cooldown when it already requires 50% charge to use. Especially when anyone competent can see the glowing blue outlines why the hate on the shotty scout then? With the event i might be able to get the assaut GK.0 to compare a bit. might be true on the SG but in the open beta the radar was totally random, seeing only the dot seems more legit to me and give back the letter of nobless to the shotty scout instead of getting called scrub! Sorry for NK but i never used it even a time since i play lol. The rest is lwgit as well French Canadian Scrubs scout
voidfaction Nos Nothi 545	Posted - 2014.09.22 06:17:00 - [22378] - Quote Morathi III wrote: voidfaction wrote: Morathi III wrote: Scout need a nerf on 4 point -radar only need to show a dot, without knowing where ppl look -cooldown on cloak need to be longer -seriously the kid stuff of the nova knife on tank... C'mon -need to glow like when moving with cloak while hacking My tough... Discuss need more then glow while hacking. I would say pulsating bright neon green with at least 10 arrows pointing as they rotate around the scout flashing yellow and on top of that any dmg taken while hacking get a 100x multiplier with full auto aim assist to anyone in weapon range of the scout. I mean really a glow while hacking? cmon OBJECTIVE is flashing that it is being hacked and you see nobody at the terminal kinda gives that one away. if your camping a CRU, Turret, etc and you missed the shimmer run up to it. then your not a very good camper. Or if you don't circle around CRU, Turrets, etc looking for the slight blur or reticle to turn orange/red (not sure with my eyes) then maybe you should just learn to be in less of a hurry and actually TRY to find them. Now the other points I can see the point of to a degree. lose the angle give HP buff longer cooldown on cloaks give a HP buff you see I dont play the 800HP scout so that added intel and cooldown copensates for my lack of HP. I cant tank a shot poping out to see what direction enemy is facing. and cooldown is for my rapid escape because I can not tank Hits running away in an open field of enemy. Now finally the NK tank dmg. LOL yes that is a joke to me too. a plasma knife can do dmg to a tank but my plasma rifle, shotgun and pistol can not. my feeling with the fact of showing only the doth is for the SG scout complain, the SG dont need a buff, its the fact to know where to go by knowing where ppl watch make the shotty scout OP ... In skirm and dom, in ambush its an other story. For the point of glowing while hacking ... The logic is you glow when you move and actually you made action of movement with arms whe hacki ng . My two other point, well its idea, i play scout since close beta, i didnt haved that stuff and did well, throwing the cioldown question to see what ppl think and the NK on tank its not that important but derail in balance of the game can,be so. I play an AR eWar scout 90% of the time and direction indication is one of the biggest factors to survival as you can not kill your target fast enough for them not to turn around and kill you like you was nothing so nerfing direction indication because 1 weapon is not a idea i like. if there is a problem with a weapon fix the weapon. cloak and shotgun are the combo problem not direction indication. the cloaked hacker can see there arm terminal so why not everyone else? unless its a virtual arm computer only seen through hud. sure that would require a software patch. Other than that i don't think moving your fingers should cause a full body shimmer/glow I personally don't like the idea of being able to recloak instantly after declaok (decloak shotgun blast recloak) but as I like to use the STD cloak from time to time it is almost made for that tactic since it is not a cloak made for camping but running and active cloaking and declaoking and can be a lot of fun to use. The std cloak also does not have dampening bonus so another thing making it favor not having a recloak delay as one using it is more at risk of tac-net visibility unless gal/cal scouts ;-) The adv and proto having dampening and longer duration I could be persuaded to favor a recloak delay to prevent the ability to manage your cloak to virtually remain invisible most of a match while still having the ability to recloak instantly after decloak. NK dmg I think is more for the lol. If a tank dies from more than 50%NK dmg the tanker should have there name posted on the front page of the forums for everyone to see so everyone can make fun of them. Sorry scouts not the killers name as you all will be making alt tankers to kill just to get your names posted.
Appia Nappia 1087	Posted - 2014.09.22 06:27:00 - [22379] - Quote Right-wing Extremist wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2370025#post2370025 Damn. That's quick. What to ~~waste~~ spend 2m SP on. a 7th proto suit? ADS skills? Fitting optimization 3 on PLC? (Dude, seriously, why is that skill so costly when it really is only worth it for Flaylock and PLC) So very tired
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 537	Posted - 2014.09.22 06:52:00 - [22380] - Quote I actually grinded enough SP to get my hacking V before the event SP was even awarded, so that was a pleasant surprise. :) Omega boosters do work. I don't even know what I'm going to spend it all on, all I really wanted were those complex codebreakers. I guess getting every sidearm to level 5 would be a treat. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire I stabbed Rattati once, you know.



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