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Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.07.21 20:58:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:One thing I do like that I haven't seen mentioned, is the grenade timer. It is a smart way of reducing grenade spam while still not forcing you to have to get it from ammo or something.
P.S. Charlie needs to come soon so Destiny Demo, I mean Beta, isn't the only topic.
There's an ability for warlocks where you can recharge the 'nade from melee.
Heading over to Destiny Beta and a few others
Hit me up for Skype and PSN
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
2406
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Posted - 2014.07.21 21:04:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Come on now. Media outlets wouldn't get ratings if they didn't put the nutjobs on to make everyone mad, or so they say.
That and animals. People can't turn the channel with kittens or puppies on. Eh, suppose so. Though I've never seen or heard one with animals.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
2867
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Posted - 2014.07.21 21:06:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:One Eyed King wrote:One thing I do like that I haven't seen mentioned, is the grenade timer. It is a smart way of reducing grenade spam while still not forcing you to have to get it from ammo or something.
P.S. Charlie needs to come soon so Destiny Demo, I mean Beta, isn't the only topic. There's an ability for warlocks where you can recharge the 'nade from melee. Hunters have something similar with knives.
This is how a minja feels
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
2406
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Posted - 2014.07.21 21:17:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Bayeth Mal wrote:One Eyed King wrote:One thing I do like that I haven't seen mentioned, is the grenade timer. It is a smart way of reducing grenade spam while still not forcing you to have to get it from ammo or something.
P.S. Charlie needs to come soon so Destiny Demo, I mean Beta, isn't the only topic. There's an ability for warlocks where you can recharge the 'nade from melee. Hunters have something similar with knives. I don't know it's the same thing, but one skill is insta recharge of knives on a knife precision kill.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
2867
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Posted - 2014.07.21 21:26:00 -
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Spademan wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Bayeth Mal wrote:One Eyed King wrote:One thing I do like that I haven't seen mentioned, is the grenade timer. It is a smart way of reducing grenade spam while still not forcing you to have to get it from ammo or something.
P.S. Charlie needs to come soon so Destiny Demo, I mean Beta, isn't the only topic. There's an ability for warlocks where you can recharge the 'nade from melee. Hunters have something similar with knives. I don't know it's the same thing, but one skill is insta recharge of knives on a knife precision kill. The one I found was an armor bonus, I think to gauntlets, that reduces the time of grenade charge. I found something else similar to that to recharge throwing knives.
This is how a minja feels
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
2406
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Posted - 2014.07.21 21:29:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote: The one I found was an armor bonus, I think to gauntlets, that reduces the time of grenade charge. I found something else similar to that to recharge throwing knives.
Oh yeah, I found equipment that when I got kills with my grenades it would recharge my knives and when I got kills with my rocet launcher it recharged my grenades.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Right-wing Extremist
Nos Nothi
315
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Posted - 2014.07.21 21:31:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:The one I found was an armor bonus, I think to gauntlets, that reduces the time of grenade charge. I found something else similar to that to recharge throwing knives. Stack discipline, spam nades errdey.
What I really want, though, is a Komarov set with all Strength bonuses. Run around throwing knives like a boss. I lolpwned this level 11 yellow captain with a thrown knife, was so cash. Most of the time I miss in pvp, though. Not cash :(
Also, is it me or does the loot itself seem to generate randomly? I mean, I've seen the same name on a piece of armor, but the defense rating would be different. And I'd swear I've seen a Disc bonus on an item I'd dismantled, but then I get the same item again and it's a different bonus...?
Jaceon Pale-eye.
Soon to be the deadliest prick in OSG.
Unless Mal says no :(
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
2867
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Posted - 2014.07.21 21:36:00 -
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Right-wing Extremist wrote:One Eyed King wrote:The one I found was an armor bonus, I think to gauntlets, that reduces the time of grenade charge. I found something else similar to that to recharge throwing knives. Stack discipline, spam nades errdey. What I really want, though, is a Komarov set with all Strength bonuses. Run around throwing knives like a boss. I lolpwned this level 11 yellow captain with a thrown knife, was so cash. Most of the time I miss in pvp, though. Not cash :( I am the same way. I do just fine in PvE, especially with the Scout Rifle, but then I get into PvP and do poorly even with the shotgun.
I think I will get Destiny for the PvE and stick with Dust for PvP, maybe with PS2 whenever that comes out if it is not too bad.
This is how a minja feels
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1852
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Posted - 2014.07.21 23:22:00 -
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Right-wing Extremist wrote:One Eyed King wrote:The one I found was an armor bonus, I think to gauntlets, that reduces the time of grenade charge. I found something else similar to that to recharge throwing knives. Stack discipline, spam nades errdey. What I really want, though, is a Komarov set with all Strength bonuses. Run around throwing knives like a boss. I lolpwned this level 11 yellow captain with a thrown knife, was so cash. Most of the time I miss in pvp, though. Not cash :( Also, is it me or does the loot itself seem to generate randomly? I mean, I've seen the same name on a piece of armor, but the defense rating would be different. And I'd swear I've seen a Disc bonus on an item I'd dismantled, but then I get the same item again and it's a different bonus...? I think they've got a random loot generator (ala Diablo) where the name of the item designates the form/skin, and the later numbers designate the specifics. I've had two pieces of green armor that were exactly the same, except the unlockable bonus was different. And others where the name/skin were the same, but the items themselves were different levels and profiles.
Also picked up a green Komarov helmet last night that apparently 'significantly increases the speed of melee attacks', along with the strength bonus to reduce throwing knife recharge. Only unlocked it just before I finished up for the night so not sure how much of a difference it makes, but anything that allows for more face stabbing is good.
Knowledge is power
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3634
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Posted - 2014.07.21 23:22:00 -
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I miss double jumping into people head first with my knives. Now I can only single jump into people with a pair of knives.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
Personal Theme Song
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
2875
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Posted - 2014.07.21 23:54:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Right-wing Extremist wrote:One Eyed King wrote:The one I found was an armor bonus, I think to gauntlets, that reduces the time of grenade charge. I found something else similar to that to recharge throwing knives. Stack discipline, spam nades errdey. What I really want, though, is a Komarov set with all Strength bonuses. Run around throwing knives like a boss. I lolpwned this level 11 yellow captain with a thrown knife, was so cash. Most of the time I miss in pvp, though. Not cash :( Also, is it me or does the loot itself seem to generate randomly? I mean, I've seen the same name on a piece of armor, but the defense rating would be different. And I'd swear I've seen a Disc bonus on an item I'd dismantled, but then I get the same item again and it's a different bonus...? I think they've got a random loot generator (ala Diablo) where the name of the item designates the form/skin, and the later numbers designate the specifics. I've had two pieces of green armor that were exactly the same, except the unlockable bonus was different. And others where the name/skin were the same, but the items themselves were different levels and profiles. Also picked up a green Komarov helmet last night that apparently 'significantly increases the speed of melee attacks', along with the strength bonus to reduce throwing knife recharge. Only unlocked it just before I finished up for the night so not sure how much of a difference it makes, but anything that allows for more face stabbing is good. I had one sniper rifle with a skill (or an innate ability, I can't remember) that said that a kill with it would result in a reduced reload time, and when I would reload after a kill I noticed a significant difference.
I like that they included these rewards for items and weapons, but they don't feel over the top.
This is how a minja feels
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Right-wing Extremist
Nos Nothi
317
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Posted - 2014.07.22 00:45:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:I miss double jumping into people head first with my knives. Now I can only single jump into people with a pair of knives. I legit tried to double jump up onto a tabletop about an hour ago... and was left disappointed with a sad and wistful feeling as I climbed the ladder.
Jaceon Pale-eye.
Soon to be the deadliest prick in OSG.
Unless Mal says no :(
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1608
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Posted - 2014.07.22 02:57:00 -
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double jump with throwing knife headshot for 500 damage is amazing
Still doesn't one shot titans
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1608
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Posted - 2014.07.22 02:58:00 -
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Also: shotty i hope my posts are helpful in your thread
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3982
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Posted - 2014.07.22 03:14:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also: shotty i hope my posts are helpful in your thread Added my piece to the discussion
Heavy Spam This has to stop
KRRROOOOOOM
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1611
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Posted - 2014.07.22 03:16:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also: shotty i hope my posts are helpful in your thread Added my piece to the discussion Heavy SpamThis has to stop Right with you bro
I was in a match where 8 people had caldari or gallente scouts either ADV or proto (with a random minja in there who was actually decent) and i killed every one at least twice, then they all switched to HMG heavies, one by one. It was sickening
EDIT: LOL thats what ill imagine all heavy players to look like from now on
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3137
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Posted - 2014.07.22 03:38:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also: shotty i hope my posts are helpful in your thread Added my piece to the discussion Heavy SpamThis has to stop ^
Thanks for swinging by, guys! Fatties are so touchy these days.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1619
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Posted - 2014.07.22 03:42:00 -
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Also, slightly (very) off topic, but what do you guys think about helping me promote a minmitar active dampening bonus?
I can do it by myself if need be, but you guys assisting me would make my case much stronger, esp. as Rattati trusts Shotty and Haerr and seems to ignore me (after Shotty so kindly said: "Just ignore Gav.")
But seriously guys, what do you all think?
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3985
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Posted - 2014.07.22 03:45:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also: shotty i hope my posts are helpful in your thread Added my piece to the discussion Heavy SpamThis has to stop ^ Thanks for swinging by, guys! Fatties are so touchy these days. I know What happened to the jolly fat guys
KRRROOOOOOM
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1856
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Posted - 2014.07.22 03:47:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also, slightly (very) off topic, but what do you guys think about helping me promote a minmitar active dampening bonus? I can do it by myself if need be, but you guys assisting me would make my case much stronger, esp. as Rattati trusts Shotty and Haerr and seems to ignore me (after Shotty so kindly said: "Just ignore Gav. ") But seriously guys, what do you all think? Still in the same mind as before Gav. I like the idea, but I think we should wait to see how everything lands after Charlie before pushing for additional changes. I would have to quit Dust entirely if I ended up playing an OP suit, even if by accident.
Knowledge is power
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1619
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Posted - 2014.07.22 03:51:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also, slightly (very) off topic, but what do you guys think about helping me promote a minmitar active dampening bonus? I can do it by myself if need be, but you guys assisting me would make my case much stronger, esp. as Rattati trusts Shotty and Haerr and seems to ignore me (after Shotty so kindly said: "Just ignore Gav. ") But seriously guys, what do you all think? Still in the same mind as before Gav. I like the idea, but I think we should wait to see how everything lands after Charlie before pushing for additional changes. I would have to quit Dust entirely if I ended up playing an OP suit, even if by accident. Agreed, and i probably won't even play even 1/4 as much once Destiny comes out, as I really like it.
But, I really think it just brings Minja's up to the levels that all other scouts will be at post Charlie
Every other one has eWar: It makes no sense for Minja's to be the only scout that's blind and gets no dampening.
Gal gets damp and precision-super powerful bonuses Am gets the old cal bonus which will be very good Cal gets dampening and range which balances it quite nicely Min gets....oh wait...we don't have eWar because....minja or aliens or something like that?
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1856
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Posted - 2014.07.22 03:59:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Brokerib wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also, slightly (very) off topic, but what do you guys think about helping me promote a minmitar active dampening bonus? I can do it by myself if need be, but you guys assisting me would make my case much stronger, esp. as Rattati trusts Shotty and Haerr and seems to ignore me (after Shotty so kindly said: "Just ignore Gav. ") But seriously guys, what do you all think? Still in the same mind as before Gav. I like the idea, but I think we should wait to see how everything lands after Charlie before pushing for additional changes. I would have to quit Dust entirely if I ended up playing an OP suit, even if by accident. Agreed, and i probably won't even play even 1/4 as much once Destiny comes out, as I really like it. But, I really think it just brings Minja's up to the levels that all other scouts will be at post Charlie Every other one has eWar: It makes no sense for Minja's to be the only scout that's blind and gets no dampening. Gal gets damp and precision-super powerful bonuses Am gets the old cal bonus which will be very good Cal gets dampening and range which balances it quite nicely Min gets....oh wait...we don't have eWar because....minja or aliens or something like that? If the clack dampening gets applied as a baseline (10% for all clacks, Rattati took it under consideration, so no telling yet) then it shouldn't be necessary. I'm happy with two dampeners and a cloak being the baseline for passive invisibility.
If it doesn't, then I'm more than happy to support a push.
Knowledge is power
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1619
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Posted - 2014.07.22 04:04:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Brokerib wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also, slightly (very) off topic, but what do you guys think about helping me promote a minmitar active dampening bonus? I can do it by myself if need be, but you guys assisting me would make my case much stronger, esp. as Rattati trusts Shotty and Haerr and seems to ignore me (after Shotty so kindly said: "Just ignore Gav. ") But seriously guys, what do you all think? Still in the same mind as before Gav. I like the idea, but I think we should wait to see how everything lands after Charlie before pushing for additional changes. I would have to quit Dust entirely if I ended up playing an OP suit, even if by accident. Agreed, and i probably won't even play even 1/4 as much once Destiny comes out, as I really like it. But, I really think it just brings Minja's up to the levels that all other scouts will be at post Charlie Every other one has eWar: It makes no sense for Minja's to be the only scout that's blind and gets no dampening. Gal gets damp and precision-super powerful bonuses Am gets the old cal bonus which will be very good Cal gets dampening and range which balances it quite nicely Min gets....oh wait...we don't have eWar because....minja or aliens or something like that? If the clack dampening gets applied as a baseline (10% for all clacks, Rattati took it under consideration, so no telling yet) then it shouldn't be necessary. I'm happy with two dampeners and a cloak being the baseline for passive invisibility. If it doesn't, then I'm more than happy to support a push. The thing i don't understand is why it shouldn't be added-The only thing it lets minja's do is stack 1 more kin cat/codebreaker in the low that they can free up.
Also, its a weaker bonus as it requires a cloak to work, and has a downtime, whereas the gal requires no cloak for the same benefit, except 100% uptime, albeit losing a low in the process.
The worst thing i could think of is it being used to tank armor, but really?
If you add a plate, you need a rep per. If you add a non-ferro, you lose a LOT of speed and hacking potential for a max of 150 HP extra, which only an idiot would do with a minja.
You'd have sub-assault speeds, with sub-assault HP, and only dampening would be what you're good at.
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1856
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Posted - 2014.07.22 04:16:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Brokerib wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Brokerib wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Also, slightly (very) off topic, but what do you guys think about helping me promote a minmitar active dampening bonus? I can do it by myself if need be, but you guys assisting me would make my case much stronger, esp. as Rattati trusts Shotty and Haerr and seems to ignore me (after Shotty so kindly said: "Just ignore Gav. ") But seriously guys, what do you all think? Still in the same mind as before Gav. I like the idea, but I think we should wait to see how everything lands after Charlie before pushing for additional changes. I would have to quit Dust entirely if I ended up playing an OP suit, even if by accident. Agreed, and i probably won't even play even 1/4 as much once Destiny comes out, as I really like it. But, I really think it just brings Minja's up to the levels that all other scouts will be at post Charlie Every other one has eWar: It makes no sense for Minja's to be the only scout that's blind and gets no dampening. Gal gets damp and precision-super powerful bonuses Am gets the old cal bonus which will be very good Cal gets dampening and range which balances it quite nicely Min gets....oh wait...we don't have eWar because....minja or aliens or something like that? If the clack dampening gets applied as a baseline (10% for all clacks, Rattati took it under consideration, so no telling yet) then it shouldn't be necessary. I'm happy with two dampeners and a cloak being the baseline for passive invisibility. If it doesn't, then I'm more than happy to support a push. The thing i don't understand is why it shouldn't be added-The only thing it lets minja's do is stack 1 more kin cat/codebreaker in the low that they can free up. Also, its a weaker bonus as it requires a cloak to work, and has a downtime, whereas the gal requires no cloak for the same benefit, except 100% uptime, albeit losing a low in the process. The worst thing i could think of is it being used to tank armor, but really? If you add a plate, you need a rep per. If you add a non-ferro, you lose a LOT of speed and hacking potential for a max of 150 HP extra, which only an idiot would do with a minja. You'd have sub-assault speeds, with sub-assault HP, and only dampening would be what you're good at. Never underestimate the ability for jerk-holes to abuse slots...wow, that came across as dirtier than I expected.
The proposed changes bring the Minmatar up to a point where it is no longer unviable. That's a good start for a suit that has spend all but 1 month out of the last year as underpowered. Anything above that will be seen as the Minmatar trying to push for OP status. Not true, but it brings up too much dissent for a clear message to be put through from the scout community.
I love the gameplay options that the cloak dampening bonus brings, particularly the counter play between losing invisability for assassinations or maintaining invisibility for hacking, the time limited nature of it, the fitting requirements at the highest level of cloak meaning decisions need to be made between time passively invisible vs fitting proto modules to play to the Minmatar role (kin cats in particular, but code breakers and damage mods to a lesser extent).
But leave it for the moment. It's a good idea, but its not the right time.
Knowledge is power
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Right-wing Extremist
Nos Nothi
318
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Posted - 2014.07.22 04:21:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Never underestimate the ability for jerk-holes to abuse slots...wow, that came across as dirtier than I expected. I lost it. gg
Jaceon Pale-eye.
Soon to be the deadliest prick in OSG.
Unless Mal says no :(
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LeGoose
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
452
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Posted - 2014.07.22 05:03:00 -
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Shayz complaining that the Caldari scout is OP. No time to read tonight as it's sleepy time. Figured I'd leave it here for you insomniacs to delv into.
Click it! I dare you...
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Right-wing Extremist
Nos Nothi
320
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Posted - 2014.07.22 06:13:00 -
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LeGoose wrote:Shayz complaining that the Caldari scout is OP. No time to read tonight as it's sleepy time. Figured I'd leave it here for you insomniacs to delv into. He's whinging about brick tanked Slayer Wardens, basically. Honestly, I can't disagree with him. But haven't we been trying to figure out how to discourage brick tanked slayer scouts in general for the last two hotfixes without breaking scouts for the actual roles of scouting?
And for that matter, I'm getting sick of seeing non-scouts running cloaks in general. 1000 hp logi suits with cloaks because of the equipment fitting bonus... it's pretty stupid, but meh. Today, through my sniper scope, I watched a Molon Labe. scrub named Savage something-or-other in a proto Gal scout cloak. I know he was a proto gal scout because the target intel said 'Neo' Commando gk.0 as I was lining up the headshot. Then he cloaked. I tracked his movement. Then he uncloaked and blasted some blueberry with a shotgun.
I put the DS3 down and lit a cigarette, shaking my head at CCP and wishing the two days of Destiny BETA downtime would hurry up and finish so I could go back to throwing my knife at people on the moon.
Jaceon Pale-eye.
Soon to be the deadliest prick in OSG.
Unless Mal says no :(
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1857
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Posted - 2014.07.22 06:21:00 -
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LeGoose wrote:Shayz complaining that the Caldari scout is OP. No time to read tonight as it's sleepy time. Figured I'd leave it here for you insomniacs to delv into. Have responded. He makes some reasonable points, but have cautioned against pushing for changes prior to Charlie, as well as disagreed with his basis for comparing the suit types. All in all, not your normal QQ post. I was just surprised to see something mostly rational posted in GD...
Knowledge is power
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
11172
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Posted - 2014.07.22 06:23:00 -
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Well guys, I'm at the point where knifing is a viable weapon rather than some toy I use for the lulz.
This is extremely fun and useful!
Killed a whole squad with my knife before they even realized what's going on :3
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1858
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Posted - 2014.07.22 06:29:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Well guys, I'm at the point where knifing is a viable weapon rather than some toy I use for the lulz.
This is extremely fun and useful!
Killed a whole squad with my knife before they even realized what's going on :3 The Cat has found its claws?
Knowledge is power
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