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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
1971
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Posted - 2014.06.22 22:07:00 -
[16021] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:
Uncontested?
BLASPHEMY!
THUNDERDOME ME
Bring it a¦á_a¦á
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
5389
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Posted - 2014.06.22 22:09:00 -
[16022] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:@ Ghost
As far as Dust goes, we're stuck with current scanning mechanics.
I was just justifying why I wanted it removed.
I am aware that it will never happen.
That Crazy Minmatar Fanatic
Stabbing Heavies for the Republic since Uprising 1.1
PSN: EVL_Elgost105
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Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
585
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Posted - 2014.06.22 22:53:00 -
[16023] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Cross Atu wrote:/reads proposal thread, likes what he sees, is confused by Aeon Amadis response, taps keg to increase his quotient of 'thought serum" while deciding if he should respond That's the point! We want to watch you guys debate! PS: Any idea what Dalmont is trying to say? Read it twice; still no clue.
Initiating troll in 3..2..1..
Heading over to Destiny Beta and a few others
Hit me up for Skype and PSN
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
1972
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Posted - 2014.06.22 22:56:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Cross Atu wrote:/reads proposal thread, likes what he sees, is confused by Aeon Amadis response, taps keg to increase his quotient of 'thought serum" while deciding if he should respond That's the point! We want to watch you guys debate! PS: Any idea what Dalmont is trying to say? Read it twice; still no clue. Initiating troll in 3..2..1..
Well played...
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
2094
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Posted - 2014.06.23 00:15:00 -
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How do you go from moving into the next round with 30 seconds left in the game, and then end up just tying in the next 3 seconds....
How...
This is how a minja feels
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2163
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Posted - 2014.06.23 01:08:00 -
[16026] - Quote
Google Translate: Engish->Croatian->Dutch->English wrote: Conceptual roles are fun to debate, but outside the scope of the proposal. Varying from a Merc to the next, so we deliberately omitted so that your eyes focused on the goals
Is it bad that I like the troll version?
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3758
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Posted - 2014.06.23 02:33:00 -
[16027] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Google Translate: Engish->Croatian->Dutch->English wrote: Conceptual roles are fun to debate, but outside the scope of the proposal. Varying from a Merc to the next, so we deliberately omitted so that your eyes focused on the goals Is it bad that I like the troll version?
No
KRRROOOOOOM
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2470
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Posted - 2014.06.23 04:17:00 -
[16028] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Cross Atu wrote:/reads proposal thread, likes what he sees, is confused by Aeon Amadis response, taps keg to increase his quotient of 'thought serum" while deciding if he should respond That's the point! We want to watch you guys debate!
Okay, so it seems that's happening.
But there's a price, you have to suffer the dire effects of a Biomassed shout out! 
Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
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Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
263
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Posted - 2014.06.23 04:52:00 -
[16029] - Quote
Hello Scouts
Silent you must be
Or die you will
From Master Scout a kind message
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
3759
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Posted - 2014.06.23 04:54:00 -
[16030] - Quote
Nyra Volki wrote:Hello Scouts
Where the Hell have you been 
KRRROOOOOOM
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1411
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Posted - 2014.06.23 05:35:00 -
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Minjas, get your boots on.
CCP Rattati wrote:Come up with smart, simple ways to "fix" it, we'll listen. No complete overhaul of skills, or slots. What does it already have, that would make it competitive if it only had a little bit more of.
We have a window, please make your case.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2223231#post2223231
Knowledge is power
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I do SUCK
Hired Logi's
85
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Posted - 2014.06.23 05:48:00 -
[16032] - Quote
Brokerib wrote:Minjas, get your boots on. CCP Rattati wrote:Come up with smart, simple ways to "fix" it, we'll listen. No complete overhaul of skills, or slots. What does it already have, that would make it competitive if it only had a little bit more of. We have a window, please make your case. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2223231#post2223231
R we allowed to talk about the Ammar scout?
I'm the worst explainer in game
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1411
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Posted - 2014.06.23 05:50:00 -
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I do SUCK wrote:Brokerib wrote:Minjas, get your boots on. CCP Rattati wrote:Come up with smart, simple ways to "fix" it, we'll listen. No complete overhaul of skills, or slots. What does it already have, that would make it competitive if it only had a little bit more of. We have a window, please make your case. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2223231#post2223231 R we allowed to talk about the Ammar scout?
apparently yes.
CCP Rattati wrote:Same for Amarr Scout obviously 
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2223249#post2223249
Knowledge is power
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1411
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Posted - 2014.06.23 05:57:00 -
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Apologies if I'm stepping on anyone's toes with the suggestions, just trying to get something on paper for both the Min/Amarr while we have the chance.
Knowledge is power
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I do SUCK
Hired Logi's
85
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Posted - 2014.06.23 06:16:00 -
[16035] - Quote
Any1 else notice sotas post I'm trolling it https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2223294#post2223294
I'm the worst explainer in game
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Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
115
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Posted - 2014.06.23 07:59:00 -
[16036] - Quote
Noob scout here. Nice to see a thread dedicated to the art of shaving - Sweeney Todd style that is. |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
5398
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Posted - 2014.06.23 11:10:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Minjas, get your boots on. CCP Rattati wrote:Come up with smart, simple ways to "fix" it, we'll listen. No complete overhaul of skills, or slots. What does it already have, that would make it competitive if it only had a little bit more of. We have a window, please make your case. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2223231#post2223231
I have to get ready for work.
I'm trusting you guys to tell him what's up in my place.
I only have enough time to type this and tell Chimichanga that he's completely wrong about there being nothing wrong with the Min Scout.
At least the guy admitted that he only runs pubs.
That Crazy Minmatar Fanatic
Stabbing Heavies for the Republic since Uprising 1.1
PSN: EVL_Elgost105
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
598
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Posted - 2014.06.23 13:56:00 -
[16038] - Quote
Ghost Kaisar wrote:Brokerib wrote:Minjas, get your boots on. CCP Rattati wrote:Come up with smart, simple ways to "fix" it, we'll listen. No complete overhaul of skills, or slots. What does it already have, that would make it competitive if it only had a little bit more of. We have a window, please make your case. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2223231#post2223231 I have to get ready for work. I'm trusting you guys to tell him what's up in my place. I only have enough time to type this and tell Chimichanga that he's completely wrong about there being nothing wrong with the Min Scout. At least the guy admitted that he only runs pubs.
Im actually really surprised
I was just trying to draw a Rattati post to at least acknowledge the min scout being broken, and it actually worked....damn lol thats pretty good
What all Minjas are thinking as they play...
Yellow Heavy, Red Heavy...
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
598
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Posted - 2014.06.23 14:06:00 -
[16039] - Quote
Also, we need some back up bonuses to suggest to him in case he doesn't like what we have so far...
do you guys mind if i mention the 1-2% bonus to movement metrics? I won't do it unless you guys give me a green light, but we need some other suggestions as well, and the 1-2% bonus to movement would, I think, be perfect
What all Minjas are thinking as they play...
Yellow Heavy, Red Heavy...
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
598
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Posted - 2014.06.23 14:07:00 -
[16040] - Quote
Also, someone get shotty to unblock me so we can all talk about this as a group right now
What all Minjas are thinking as they play...
Yellow Heavy, Red Heavy...
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2168
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Posted - 2014.06.23 14:35:00 -
[16041] - Quote
Ghost Kaisar wrote:Brokerib wrote:Minjas, get your boots on. CCP Rattati wrote:Come up with smart, simple ways to "fix" it, we'll listen. No complete overhaul of skills, or slots. What does it already have, that would make it competitive if it only had a little bit more of. We have a window, please make your case. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2223231#post2223231 I have to get ready for work. I'm trusting you guys to tell him what's up in my place. I only have enough time to type this and tell Chimichanga that he's completely wrong about there being nothing wrong with the Min Scout. At least the guy admitted that he only runs pubs.
Good catch, Broker! I'm on it, Ghost.
@ Brothers
The proposal values may have changed a 'bit. Give 'em another look over and let me know. o7
Google Doc: Scout Polish Proposal
Last Updated: 2014.06.23 14:09 (version 4.5)
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Right-wing Extremist
Nos Nothi
170
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Posted - 2014.06.23 14:56:00 -
[16042] - Quote
I like this one.
Jaceon Pale-eye.
Soon to be the deadliest prick in OSG.
Unless Mal says no :(
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2171
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Posted - 2014.06.23 15:01:00 -
[16043] - Quote
Right-wing Extremist wrote:
That's because you're a baby version of Mr Musturd :-)
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2472
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Posted - 2014.06.23 15:30:00 -
[16044] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Right-wing Extremist wrote: That's because you're a baby version of Mr Musturd :-)
Has anyone made sure CCP R has seen the most recent version of this?
Even if he's in a place where adopting it wholesale is 'too much' having the concepts present to advise him in what changes do come would still, I think, be of value.
0.02 ISK
Cross
Cross Atu for CPM1- An emergent candidate
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2171
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Posted - 2014.06.23 15:41:00 -
[16045] - Quote
Cross Atu wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Right-wing Extremist wrote: That's because you're a baby version of Mr Musturd :-) Has anyone made sure CCP R has seen the most recent version of this? Even if he's in a place where adopting it wholesale is 'too much' having the concepts present to advise him in what changes do come would still, I think, be of value. 0.02 ISK Cross
Feel free to "leak" it to him if you think it'd help :-)
There's only one proposal document; all links are up-to-date.
PS: I like Pokey and Black.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
1279
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Posted - 2014.06.23 16:04:00 -
[16046] - Quote
Warden/Spook
I don't really like the new cal/gal changes. It will require 1+ precision enhancer to detect a dampened gal scout. A balanced solution needs to rely on cloak. So a 1:1 module fitting then a cloak to remain hidden. What is the better advantage, staying hidden or being able to see? We all agree that staying hidden is more powerful. That is the reason why the hidden should have the final sacrifice and stay hidden with cloak.
45m range is not enough for tac net. 45m is within optimal range on nearly every weapon in the game. With current proposal you will get cal scouts running full tank mods and running as a medium frame killer. Which is not what we want for that role. Gal should not be getting range bonuses. It steps on the toes of the Cal frame. IT allows the Gal to become the hunter. Throw on two precision mods and the cal can't dampen past that. While the Gal can dampen right through and hunt the hunter. Which should never happen.
There is a damn good reason why scouts hate caldari scouts....cal scouts are there to hunt them. Thats their role. Don't break that role just so the meta is go GAL or go home. (Gal will have 80m passive tac net and pick up all frames that don't have at least one damp, all the while having a huge armor tank.)
Minja
Change biotic efficiency to fitting bonus (5% per level). Running any faster than 11.1 will break the game. CCP won't be on board with a speed increase. Fitting bonus will give them more PG freedom.
Amarr
If all other suits are getting module bonuses, so does that Amarr scout for consistency reasons.
Lastly cloak needs to be useful on all tiers of a scout, not just someone who has racial V. All cloak bonuses should be role bonuses.
Youtube
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
1281
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Posted - 2014.06.23 16:14:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Cross Atu wrote:/reads proposal thread, likes what he sees, is confused by Aeon Amadis response, taps keg to increase his quotient of 'thought serum" while deciding if he should respond That's the point! We want to watch you guys debate! Okay, so it seems that's happening. But there's a price, you have to suffer the dire effects of a Biomassed shout out!
ITS A TRAP!
Youtube
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2174
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Posted - 2014.06.23 16:31:00 -
[16048] - Quote
IgniteableAura wrote:Gal should not be getting range bonuses. It steps on the toes of the Cal frame. IT allows the Gal to become the hunter. Throw on two precision mods and the cal can't dampen past that. While the Gal can dampen right through and hunt the hunter. Which should never happen.
Need an alternate bonus for Gal which meets the following criteria:
(1) will not be weaponry related
(2) will not be armor or armor repair related
(3) will not be cloak related
(4) will augment a low slot module
(5) will be sufficient to incentivize not running plates
Go!
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2174
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Posted - 2014.06.23 17:19:00 -
[16049] - Quote
@ Iggy
Haerr and Appia are pretty insistent about the Range bonus for Gallente. I like the idea of the GalScout having the flexibility to go Ghost or go Recon. I like the incentive we're offering to do so (instead of running plates). That said, I'd be OK swapping the bonus for cloak duration/recharge. Appia would furious though; she says its too restrictive.
Whichever way we go, the 1% bonus to scan radius should be changed out for something.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
526
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Posted - 2014.06.23 17:21:00 -
[16050] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:IgniteableAura wrote:Gal should not be getting range bonuses. It steps on the toes of the Cal frame. IT allows the Gal to become the hunter. Throw on two precision mods and the cal can't dampen past that. While the Gal can dampen right through and hunt the hunter. Which should never happen.
Need an alternate bonus for Gal which meets the following criteria: (1) will not be weaponry related (2) will not be armor or armor repair related (3) will not be cloak related (4) will augment a low slot module (5) will be sufficient to incentivize not running plates Go! Also, I think "the ability to see" is more valuable than "the ability to be unseen". While the latter is favorable when solo, the former is often multiplied by a factor of 6.
What else is left?
Also, fully taking range away will upset many who prioritized that and skilled into that suit.
*beaten while I thought about what more to write.
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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