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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
230
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:10:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Anybody know how the Ion Pistol will work? It seems to have sick alpha. Does it overheat after one charge shot, making you incapable of switching weapon?
This is what most think but I hope that because of the range and damage, the seize only allows the weapon not to fire but you can still change your weapon.
It would be incredibly stupid if you can only fire once at point blank range and then have to twiddle your thumbs while you get slayed.
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4642
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:11:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Amarr Scout confirming to sprint at 7.35
Also, the Minmatar Scout only has 110 melee now.
Damn. That's great, but still too weak IMO
That means with a single Mybo, you can only hit 192.5 Melee Is that faster than min assault?
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3563
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:12:00 -
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Master Smurf wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Anybody know how the Ion Pistol will work? It seems to have sick alpha. Does it overheat after one charge shot, making you incapable of switching weapon? This is what most think but I hope that because of the range and damage, the seize only allows the weapon not to fire but you can still change your weapon. It would be incredibly stupid if you can only fire once at point blank range and then have to twiddle your thumbs while you get slayed.
I hope so.
If it works like that, I might run Ion and Knives.
Charge + Melee for soft targets. As good as a shotgun, and has more range if need be.
Knives for Hard Targets. Tanked Med Frames and Heavies.
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3563
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:14:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Amarr Scout confirming to sprint at 7.35
Also, the Minmatar Scout only has 110 melee now.
Damn. That's great, but still too weak IMO
That means with a single Mybo, you can only hit 192.5 Melee Is that faster than min assault?
By 0.05 m/s
He has slightly higher base eHP (285 compared to the Amarr Scouts 250), but lacks the dampening and scan range the amarr scout will have.
On a sad note, this means that the amarr scout will have trouble breaking 9.0m/s sprint with a single Kincat
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1737
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:17:00 -
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CR/Ion pistol seems like a great combo. Ion pistol as a mini shotgun. Ill definately try it out with my gallente LP!
You can also fire off few finishing shots if you run out of clip on Cr. That pistol just looks badass.
Drop it like its hat.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3563
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:19:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:CR/Ion pistol seems like a great combo. Ion pistol as a mini shotgun. Ill definately try it out with my gallente LP!
You can also fire off few finishing shots if you run out of clip on Cr. That pistol just looks badass.
This too.
Though my Minja will lack heavy slaying power
(if they let you switch weapons during its overheat though, the Charge followed by ACR might be deadly.
The Charge will wipe off around 500 shields at range, and then follow up with a hailstorm of projectiles.
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1737
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:27:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:CR/Ion pistol seems like a great combo. Ion pistol as a mini shotgun. Ill definately try it out with my gallente LP!
You can also fire off few finishing shots if you run out of clip on Cr. That pistol just looks badass. This too. Though my Minja will lack heavy slaying power (if they let you switch weapons during its overheat though, the Charge followed by ACR might be deadly. The Charge will wipe off around 500 shields at range, and then follow up with a hailstorm of projectiles.
It has a great balanced dmg profile +10% shield -10% armor.
Do you know what the weapon operation skill does?
Drop it like its hat.
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Ninja Troll
General Tso's Alliance
100
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:37:00 -
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Driftoward wrote:Ninja Troll wrote:Django Quik wrote:Apparently there's some extreme badness involving something in the SDE but IWS won't divulge... Iron Wolf Saber wrote:SDE is the only clue Ill give. Anyone got time to sift through and try to dig out the problem from the SDE? I'll take a look, although could it be the ScP nerf that everyone is talking about. I bet IWS or someone will post the problem today if it's not the ScP nerf. EDIT: It's AV related Someone was also mentioning the difference between the sentinel skills vs. other racial skills and how sentinel skills don't seem to actually have the right modifiers. Also, that ck.0 seemed to only require level 3 in the racial skill? IgniteableAura did the digging. I'm only spreading the vicious rumours. Haha it's true, the Scout ck.0 required skill is currently level 3. (requiredSkills.0.skillLevel = 3)
There's probably a couple of typos in the SDE. I recall some people found other errors.
SG Scout. I enjoy killing Heavies, Snipers, and Scanemies
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3563
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:41:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:CR/Ion pistol seems like a great combo. Ion pistol as a mini shotgun. Ill definately try it out with my gallente LP!
You can also fire off few finishing shots if you run out of clip on Cr. That pistol just looks badass. This too. Though my Minja will lack heavy slaying power (if they let you switch weapons during its overheat though, the Charge followed by ACR might be deadly. The Charge will wipe off around 500 shields at range, and then follow up with a hailstorm of projectiles. It has a great balanced dmg profile +10% shield -10% armor. Do you know what the weapon operation skill does?
Reduction to charge time.
At Pro, its around a 1s charge
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1737
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:42:00 -
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Ninja Troll wrote:Driftoward wrote:Ninja Troll wrote:Django Quik wrote:Apparently there's some extreme badness involving something in the SDE but IWS won't divulge... Iron Wolf Saber wrote:SDE is the only clue Ill give. Anyone got time to sift through and try to dig out the problem from the SDE? I'll take a look, although could it be the ScP nerf that everyone is talking about. I bet IWS or someone will post the problem today if it's not the ScP nerf. EDIT: It's AV related Someone was also mentioning the difference between the sentinel skills vs. other racial skills and how sentinel skills don't seem to actually have the right modifiers. Also, that ck.0 seemed to only require level 3 in the racial skill? IgniteableAura did the digging. I'm only spreading the vicious rumours. Haha it's true, the Scout ck.0 required skill is currently level 3. (requiredSkills.0.skillLevel = 3) There's probably a couple of typos in the SDE. I recall some people found other errors.
Or maybe they actually changed the suit unlocks to lvl 3??
Drop it like its hat.
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Ninja Troll
General Tso's Alliance
100
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:54:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Ninja Troll wrote:Driftoward wrote:Ninja Troll wrote: I'll take a look, although could it be the ScP nerf that everyone is talking about. I bet IWS or someone will post the problem today if it's not the ScP nerf. EDIT: It's AV related
Someone was also mentioning the difference between the sentinel skills vs. other racial skills and how sentinel skills don't seem to actually have the right modifiers. Also, that ck.0 seemed to only require level 3 in the racial skill? IgniteableAura did the digging. I'm only spreading the vicious rumours. Haha it's true, the Scout ck.0 required skill is currently level 3. (requiredSkills.0.skillLevel = 3) There's probably a couple of typos in the SDE. I recall some people found other errors. Or maybe they actually changed the suit unlocks to lvl 3?? The other proto scout suits all require level 5 in the SDE. So it must be a typo. Although CCP are Caldari Bastards. Wait this character is Caldari...so go Caldari...
SG Scout. I enjoy killing Heavies, Snipers, and Scanemies
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
2422
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:59:00 -
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It's something IWS said is imperative to fix before 1.8 goes live, so whatever it is, it's a mistake.
He also said that when it is discovered there will be lots of complaining.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1737
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Posted - 2014.03.19 17:07:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:It's something IWS said is imperative to fix before 1.8 goes live, so whatever it is, it's a mistake.
He also said that when it is discovered there will be lots of complaining.
Perhaps suits unlocks at lvl 3. Do you remember shield energizers in the beginning? Hehe.
Drop it like its hat.
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Ninja Troll
General Tso's Alliance
100
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Posted - 2014.03.19 18:06:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:It's something IWS said is imperative to fix before 1.8 goes live, so whatever it is, it's a mistake.
He also said that when it is discovered there will be lots of complaining. FG got nerfed, but it must be a typo. From 1200 HP damage to 400 HP.
Didn't see any changes with hardeners. Mlt vehicle plates got increase in movement penalty.
SG Scout. I enjoy killing Heavies, Snipers, and Scanemies
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
1068
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Posted - 2014.03.19 18:17:00 -
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Ninja Troll wrote:Django Quik wrote:It's something IWS said is imperative to fix before 1.8 goes live, so whatever it is, it's a mistake.
He also said that when it is discovered there will be lots of complaining. FG got nerfed, but it must be a typo. From 1200 HP damage to 400 HP.
Nah, not a typo. As intended. CCP is "normalizing" AV. forge gun is an AV weapon you know, so they're just bringing it line with a swarm rocket.
A single swarm rocket.
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
725
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Posted - 2014.03.19 18:20:00 -
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Ninja Troll wrote:Django Quik wrote:It's something IWS said is imperative to fix before 1.8 goes live, so whatever it is, it's a mistake.
He also said that when it is discovered there will be lots of complaining. FG got nerfed, but it must be a typo. From 1200 HP damage to 400 HP. Didn't see any changes with hardeners. Mlt vehicle plates got increase in movement penalty.
No you are looking at the wrong attribute. Each tier does a specific damage. Adv: http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/353501 Pro: http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/353537
CCP has some odd ways of calculating its numbers. Cause things like plates and extenders are % based in the SDE but are absolute based in game.
The sentinels don't have any modifiers to their frames. So thats why I am concerned with there not being any skill/role bonuses being applied to them....unless CCP has done it an odd way.
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
958
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Posted - 2014.03.19 18:24:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:LeGoose wrote: +1 to this, but how do you define a "little kid?" Also what if a scout who is already on the list falls under your definition of a little kid?
* Scratches Head * Q1. An individual who has never heard a dial-up modem. Or played MGS. Q2. Well ... I guess that little sh*t got lucky :P
Well, I failed that part of the test
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Ninja Troll
General Tso's Alliance
100
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Posted - 2014.03.19 18:27:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:Ninja Troll wrote:Django Quik wrote:It's something IWS said is imperative to fix before 1.8 goes live, so whatever it is, it's a mistake.
He also said that when it is discovered there will be lots of complaining. FG got nerfed, but it must be a typo. From 1200 HP damage to 400 HP. Didn't see any changes with hardeners. Mlt vehicle plates got increase in movement penalty. No you are looking at the wrong attribute. Each tier does a specific damage. Adv: http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/353501Pro: http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/353537CCP has some odd ways of calculating its numbers. Cause things like plates and extenders are % based in the SDE but are absolute based in game. The sentinels don't have any modifiers to their frames. So thats why I am concerned with there not being any skill/role bonuses being applied to them....unless CCP has done it an odd way. Yeah I got the sense from other thread that it's something else that IWS is talking about.
Thanks for link to that site, I was checking it locally.
SG Scout. I enjoy killing Heavies, Snipers, and Scanemies
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BARDAS
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
818
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Posted - 2014.03.19 18:53:00 -
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Anyone here thinking about NOT taking advantage of the Cloaking Device? Been pondering it for a bit. Been thinking about other stuff I could fit without using one and relying on my own stealthy techniques as I already have been. |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
1430
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Posted - 2014.03.19 19:14:00 -
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BARDAS wrote:Anyone here thinking about NOT taking advantage of the Cloaking Device? Been pondering it for a bit. Been thinking about other stuff I could fit without using one and relying on my own stealthy techniques as I already have been.
My plan is to avoid the cloak for a few weeks to see how viable I can keep my scout-game. I'm not a very boss scout so my guess is that I won't see a major hit to my play-style.
I was saddened by the SMG nerf.
I am majorly depressed at the ScP nerf. That was my baby, there.... This happens to me all the time. I use the crap for so long that I either get bored before ever getting to the good stuff and leave the game, or it gets nerfed and becomes the crap. Never even got to roll around with my Viziams.... still got a week, I guess.
I want my SP back.
Double posting like a Kaiser.
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
728
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Posted - 2014.03.19 20:23:00 -
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Yea I might skill into level 1 of cloak just to try it out and see if its actually helpful first.
I went ahead and posted the issues with the SDE to the masses in the patch notes thread. Guess we will see if CCP says anything. Putting on the muffs before the heavys start to "moan" and more OP talk about scouts.
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1616
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Posted - 2014.03.19 20:41:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Scout Registry wrote:Quote:Now about that Reputation of yours ... Let's get started with a healthy dose of not saying stupid sh*t.
Still going, huh? Don't make me quote myself :-) You're taking this whole thing too seriously. I'd be willing to bet money you aren't 17. Ghost is 17, and he doesn't behave this way :P 19 thank you Marauder on the other hand, started playing DUST at 14. He's 17 now.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
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BARDAS
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
819
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Posted - 2014.03.19 20:49:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:BARDAS wrote:Anyone here thinking about NOT taking advantage of the Cloaking Device? Been pondering it for a bit. Been thinking about other stuff I could fit without using one and relying on my own stealthy techniques as I already have been. My plan is to avoid the cloak for a few weeks to see how viable I can keep my scout-game. I'm not a very boss scout so my guess is that I won't see a major hit to my play-style. I was saddened by the SMG nerf. I am majorly depressed at the ScP nerf. That was my baby, there.... This happens to me all the time. I use the crap for so long that I either get bored before ever getting to the good stuff and leave the game, or it gets nerfed and becomes the crap. Never even got to roll around with my Viziams.... still got a week, I guess. I want my SP back.
SMG, ScP, and Shotgun nerf were really unneeded imo. If you want to get all conspiracy theory and put on a tin foil hat you could say it is CCP nudging people towards the new weapons. So your SP is sunk into more areas making you more commited to the game and making it more grindy so you have a higher likelyhood of spending money on AUR for booster. All part of the master plan... bwhahahahahahahahahahaha?
Good idea about not using the Cloak for a bit.
EDIT: Also, how does adding new weapons and changing the way weapons work NOT deserve a respec for weapons? It doesn't make sense... |
Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1747
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Posted - 2014.03.19 20:54:00 -
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Ion pistol is a hybrid between ScP and shotgun. So of course they want you to spec into it, it will be great and then nerfed 2-3 month after. Just like the flaylock.
Drop it like its hat.
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1616
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Posted - 2014.03.19 20:55:00 -
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because, marketing. That's not conspiracy, it's a way to make some cash in a money-sink that is DUST514
IMO, 420RPM is still fast enough to barely be noticeable. I'll still be firing a ScP as fast as I can, which will be the same speed as the Ion Pistol regardless of it have 700ROM or 1200RPM so long as it is single-fire.
I just wish they would nerf "physical force" aka stun-lock on the higher RoF weapons. So tired of CR and SMG locking you in place. Or any rifle, it's why walking backwards is more effective than it should be.
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noob cavman
Expert Intervention Caldari State
840
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Posted - 2014.03.19 21:10:00 -
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Biggest killer that god damn stun lock. Strafing me little scout? Stay in place for my aa to hit you!
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
British ninja cowboy
scout, logi, heavy
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
1072
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Posted - 2014.03.19 21:42:00 -
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BARDAS wrote:Anyone here thinking about NOT taking advantage of the Cloaking Device? Been pondering it for a bit. Been thinking about other stuff I could fit without using one and relying on my own stealthy techniques as I already have been.
well, there's two uses for cloaks.
#1, is tactical. Getting behind them or whatever, to take them out.
#2, is strategic. eg: Getting across a freakin wide-open area, to lets say the single Domination objective, without being blown to bits by the patrolling tanks and dropships. (and then dropping uplinks, presumably)
Even if you dont want to play #1, as a scout you should be all fired up about #2.
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BARDAS
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
819
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Posted - 2014.03.19 21:50:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:BARDAS wrote:Anyone here thinking about NOT taking advantage of the Cloaking Device? Been pondering it for a bit. Been thinking about other stuff I could fit without using one and relying on my own stealthy techniques as I already have been. well, there's two uses for cloaks. #1, is tactical. Getting behind them or whatever, to take them out. #2, is strategic. eg: Getting across a freakin wide-open area, to lets say the single Domination objective, without being blown to bits by the patrolling tanks and dropships. (and then dropping uplinks, presumably) Even if you dont want to play #1, as a scout you should be all fired up about #2.
True, but I'm used to taking back routes and swinging wide around the edges of the map to avoid the risk of being caught in the open. And you can get spotted anyways Cloaked by someone paying careful attention looking for the blue streak (if running). I imagine using it more for ambushing or escaping after being seen. Oh well, I will just wait and see :)
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1617
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Posted - 2014.03.19 21:57:00 -
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Active Dampener.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
678
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Posted - 2014.03.19 22:00:00 -
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Don't forget invisible hacking.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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