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Llast 326 wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Brokerib wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:

all these people whining about the amarr scout are starting to annoy meGÇª.

When you provide evidence and numerical proof your are right perhaps we might revise our position. As of yet you have not and your argument lacks substance except that is of "I AM A SCOUT SO....."

Spreadsheets dont make a suit. The Minmatar scout, on paper, looks terrible. But it performs in the field.

The Amarr scout, to my eye, looks like it will excel in specific areas while the slot layout allows it to perform reasonably across the board. Particularlary as scouts now have an appropraite baseline to work from (lowered scan profile, higher scan precision and scan radius).

You may not agree, and that's fine. But making selective comparisons and calling it evidence doesn't make you right either.

I'm not saying I am.....I also wont use the suit....so really have not stake in this.

But proof of something trumps gut feeling/ pure speculation any day.

You are not Amarr scouting Sad

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Legoose MARKII Nos Nothi 67	Posted - 2014.03.17 05:01:00 - [11341] - Quote Lol someone made a "sneaky" logi. My ck.o build will be able to passively scan this thing while it isn't cloaked. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/841 Who is LeGoose anyway?
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1710	Posted - 2014.03.17 09:39:00 - [11342] - Quote So, it seems like the some of the Amarr suits in are "in between roles". Amarr logi is in a hybrid of logi and assault. Amarr scout is in a hybrid of scout and assault. Yes? No? I still think the Amarr scout is going to be great, much better than an assault suit at slaying. Drop it like its hat.
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1547	Posted - 2014.03.17 10:28:00 - [11343] - Quote Legoose MARKII wrote: Lol someone made a "sneaky" logi. My ck.o build will be able to passively scan this thing while it isn't cloaked. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/841 16.98 is the value. You can scan that? lol. I've run into that person that made the fit many times. THey are a very bad player and send hate mail to anyone that kills them ever/ Loves calling people cheaters and protostompers, despite whatever suit you're using. Spectral Clone wrote: So, it seems like the some of the Amarr suits in are "in between roles". Amarr logi is in a hybrid of logi and assault. Amarr scout is in a hybrid of scout and assault. Yes? No? I still think the Amarr scout is going to be great, much better than an assault suit at slaying. Hmm, is the amarr assault going the way of the Gallente Assautl? logi or scout outclass it so no reason to use it. The assault bonus isn't changing. Amarr Assault at level 5 gets 25 shots from a scrambler rifle vs the 15 everyone else gets. But if you aren't using the regular scrambler rifle there's no real reason to stick to it. Amarr Assault is too specialized Not to mention the Amarr Scout is very good at replicating other suit's roles. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1710	Posted - 2014.03.17 10:32:00 - [11344] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: Not to mention the Amarr Scout is very good at replicating other suit's roles. This is the kind of dropsuit I am looking for TBH. Both gallente and amarr scout can fulfil several roles. Both get a perk bonus of either scanning/profile or stamina. Gal gets a enhanced repper, while the amarr get more base HP (should IMO be a enh plate to be comparable). So all in all, if you-¦re into armor scouts, both will be fine for you. Possibly amarr is better because fitting a profile dampener does not hit as hard on your PG as a cardiac regulator mod. This is good if you intend to run a ScR on your scout (or other power hungry things). Drop it like its hat.
Legoose MARKII Nos Nothi 68	Posted - 2014.03.17 12:25:00 - [11345] - Quote Appia Vibbia wrote: Legoose MARKII wrote: Lol someone made a "sneaky" logi. My ck.o build will be able to passively scan this thing while it isn't cloaked. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/0/841 16.98 is the value. You can scan that? lol. I've run into that person that made the fit many times. THey are a very bad player and send hate mail to anyone that kills them ever/ Loves calling people cheaters and protostompers, despite whatever suit you're using. Like I said in the post, my ck.0 fit can scan this suit while it is uncloaked. Unless the numbers are wrong on protofits, that logi suit sits at 22.6 db uncloaked and my ck.0 fit scans at 21.6 db. Who is LeGoose anyway?
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1548	Posted - 2014.03.17 15:32:00 - [11346] - Quote asleep at the wheel when I posted that. forgot they droped precision from 45 to 40. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2466	Posted - 2014.03.17 18:06:00 - [11347] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Brokerib wrote: True Adamance wrote: Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote: all these people whining about the amarr scout are starting to annoy meGÇª. When you provide evidence and numerical proof your are right perhaps we might revise our position. As of yet you have not and your argument lacks substance except that is of "I AM A SCOUT SO....." Spreadsheets dont make a suit. The Minmatar scout, on paper, looks terrible. But it performs in the field. The Amarr scout, to my eye, looks like it will excel in specific areas while the slot layout allows it to perform reasonably across the board. Particularlary as scouts now have an appropraite baseline to work from (lowered scan profile, higher scan precision and scan radius). You may not agree, and that's fine. But making selective comparisons and calling it evidence doesn't make you right either. I'm not saying I am.....I also wont use the suit....so really have not stake in this. But proof of something trumps gut feeling/ pure speculation any day. You are not Amarr scouting KRRROOOOOOM
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3469	Posted - 2014.03.17 18:09:00 - [11348] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: True Adamance wrote: Brokerib wrote: True Adamance wrote: Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote: all these people whining about the amarr scout are starting to annoy meGÇª. When you provide evidence and numerical proof your are right perhaps we might revise our position. As of yet you have not and your argument lacks substance except that is of "I AM A SCOUT SO....." Spreadsheets dont make a suit. The Minmatar scout, on paper, looks terrible. But it performs in the field. The Amarr scout, to my eye, looks like it will excel in specific areas while the slot layout allows it to perform reasonably across the board. Particularlary as scouts now have an appropraite baseline to work from (lowered scan profile, higher scan precision and scan radius). You may not agree, and that's fine. But making selective comparisons and calling it evidence doesn't make you right either. I'm not saying I am.....I also wont use the suit....so really have not stake in this. But proof of something trumps gut feeling/ pure speculation any day. You are not Amarr scouting Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
Gh0st C0de Spirit Collective 109	Posted - 2014.03.17 18:31:00 - [11349] - Quote Hey Scouts, I took a two month hiatus from Dust because it became World of Tanks II for a while and I wasn't having it. I'll be jumping back in come 1.8 because I have been lured back by the promise of new balance tweaks and those sweet new scout suits. Also, cloaking. I was wondering, has anyone burned the midnight theory-craft oil on how cloaking is going to actually pan out? Also, are they going to be granting respecs now that everything will be on the table? I'd love to jump right into a new scout suit. Keep 'em sharp, Gh0st
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3470	Posted - 2014.03.17 18:33:00 - [11350] - Quote Gh0st C0de wrote: Keep 'em sharp, Gh0st We might need to work on our nicknames..... Can you go by Code? If not, I can go by Kaisar Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!

Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 222	Posted - 2014.03.17 18:40:00 - [11351] - Quote Gh0st C0de wrote: Hey Scouts, I took a two month hiatus from Dust because it became World of Tanks II for a while and I wasn't having it. I'll be jumping back in come 1.8 because I have been lured back by the promise of new balance tweaks and those sweet new scout suits. Also, cloaking. I was wondering, has anyone burned the midnight theory-craft oil on how cloaking is going to actually pan out? Also, are they going to be granting respecs now that everything will be on the table? I'd love to jump right into a new scout suit. Keep 'em sharp, Gh0st Respec of dropsuit command iirc.
noob cavman Expert Intervention Caldari State 790	Posted - 2014.03.17 18:50:00 - [11352] - Quote You also missed out on an extra 3 million sp from the events XD I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
Appia Nappia Nos Nothi 378	Posted - 2014.03.17 18:58:00 - [11353] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Gh0st C0de wrote: Keep 'em sharp, Gh0st We might need to work on our nicknames..... Can you go by Code? If not, I can go by Kaisar Only Caesar can be called Kaisar. Or when referring to your posting etiquette . As far as cloaks go. I mostly see them as a tool to camp with or active dampeners. Secretly Appia Vibbia If you can read my signature... I'm on the wrong alt.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3474	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:02:00 - [11354] - Quote Appia Nappia wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Gh0st C0de wrote: Keep 'em sharp, Gh0st We might need to work on our nicknames..... Can you go by Code? If not, I can go by Kaisar Only Caesar can be called Kaisar. Or when referring to your posting etiquette . As far as cloaks go. I mostly see them as a tool to camp with or active dampeners. You are the first to notice this. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
noob cavman Expert Intervention Caldari State 790	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:05:00 - [11355] - Quote Not gonna lie half my time from 1.8 will be just following people around with a cloak on. Sending mail to campers then knifing them I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3474	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:07:00 - [11356] - Quote Okay, we should do this for *** and giggles. 6 proto scouts. Sit on an unhacked objective. Cloak and wait. Wait for them to take it with 4 people. Uncloak. CHAOS Nothing says "FK YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
noob cavman Expert Intervention Caldari State 792	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:10:00 - [11357] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Okay, we should do this for ***** and giggles. 6 proto scouts. Sit on an unhacked objective. Cloak and wait. Wait for them to take it with 4 people. Uncloak. CHAOS YES JUST YES I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3478	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:13:00 - [11358] - Quote noob cavman wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Okay, we should do this for *** and giggles. 6 proto scouts. Sit on an unhacked objective. Cloak and wait. Wait for them to take it with 4 people. Uncloak. CHAOS YES JUST YES Should we start reserving slots? 1.) Ghost 2.) Caveman 3.) 4.) 5.) 6.) Nothing says "FK YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
noob cavman Expert Intervention Caldari State 793	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:36:00 - [11359] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: noob cavman wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Okay, we should do this for ***** and giggles. 6 proto scouts. Sit on an unhacked objective. Cloak and wait. Wait for them to take it with 4 people. Uncloak. CHAOS YES JUST YES Should we start reserving slots? 1.) Ghost 2.) Cavman 3.) 4.) 5.) 6.) Fixed I dont need your sympathy! I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 941	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:39:00 - [11360] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: noob cavman wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Okay, we should do this for *** and giggles. 6 proto scouts. Sit on an unhacked objective. Cloak and wait. Wait for them to take it with 4 people. Uncloak. CHAOS YES JUST YES Should we start reserving slots? 1.) Ghost 2.) Caveman 3.) 4.) 5.) 6.) Oh man, I so want in. If I have proto by 1.8 I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community**

J0LLY R0G3R 0uter.Heaven 612	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:42:00 - [11361] - Quote Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote: 3x kincats, 1x damp, 2x shields, shotgun, and flay lock with a proto quantum scanner say otherwise All future advice on anything is going straight out the window. XD XD Indeed, chase me friend XD
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1556	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:43:00 - [11362] - Quote I call dibs on slot 5! Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3481	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:44:00 - [11363] - Quote Two slots left. Damn. That went fast. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 634	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:51:00 - [11364] - Quote noob cavman wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: noob cavman wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Okay, we should do this for ***** and giggles. 6 proto scouts. Sit on an unhacked objective. Cloak and wait. Wait for them to take it with 4 people. Uncloak. CHAOS YES JUST YES Should we start reserving slots? 1.) Ghost 2.) Cavman 3.) 4.) 5.) 6.) Fixed I dont need your sympathy! I would rather be missing a gratuitous e than rashly picking a name, and then months later finally realizing the double entendre. Looking for the scout hangout?
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 1298	Posted - 2014.03.17 19:55:00 - [11365] - Quote Can I join on the cloak fun too? :3 Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Feb. 10th
icdedppul PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 108	Posted - 2014.03.17 22:46:00 - [11366] - Quote so going to top 30 million SP with the million clone challenge... do I qualify as one of the proto master race yet?
Ninja Troll General Tso's Alliance 87	Posted - 2014.03.17 22:48:00 - [11367] - Quote It's hard to believe that over 2.7 million clones were slaughtered during the recent event. We are all 2M+ SP richer! Played a lot of Ambush with my alts to quickly get 10 games. So will be testing the Amarr and Caldari scout in 1.8. Look forward to using the 3M SP to take my Gal and Min scout to a whole 'nother level. SG Scout. I enjoy killing Heavies, Snipers, and Scanemies.
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 144	Posted - 2014.03.17 22:48:00 - [11368] - Quote so, after theory crafting some min fits and then some caldari, iv come to realize two things. One, the caldari does not need that much Pg. You are just encouraging a light assault. Two, shield extender pg needs to be lowered and CPU raised. I also made a thread about this, but yeah its pretty sad right now that you can't viably fit kin cats and extenders together Kills-Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
icdedppul PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 108	Posted - 2014.03.17 22:58:00 - [11369] - Quote yeah ran into the stupid kinkat extender issue when I was doing min scout fittings and realized I got an extra PG to fit a cloak onto an Adv suit.. horray, atleast with the stamina buff I can probably drop the cardio
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 145	Posted - 2014.03.17 23:00:00 - [11370] - Quote icdedppul wrote: yeah ran into the stupid kinkat extender issue when I was doing min scout fittings and realized I got an extra PG to fit a cloak onto an Adv suit.. horray, atleast with the stamina buff I can probably drop the cardio don't even bother with cardio, i never need it really. But honestly, I'm thinking 60/6 CPU and Pg at proto for extenders. Sound fair? Kills-Archduke Ferdinand Balance!



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