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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.16 19:38:00 -
[11311] - Quote
Yeah, that's the only pain, having to remake all of my fits.
And probably more seeing as how I'll maybe end up with Proto.
CCP needs to give us folders.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2450
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Posted - 2014.03.16 19:41:00 -
[11312] - Quote
Spademan wrote:Yeah, that's the only pain, having to remake all of my fits.
And probably more seeing as how I'll maybe end up with Proto.
CCP needs to give us folders.
Oh I would love folders 
I could have a folder for each scout suit 
KRRROOOOOOM
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Nyra Volki
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
197
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Posted - 2014.03.16 20:35:00 -
[11313] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:Spademan wrote:Yeah, that's the only pain, having to remake all of my fits.
And probably more seeing as how I'll maybe end up with Proto.
CCP needs to give us folders. Oh I would love folders I could have a folder for each scout suit
I've been running the same suit sense 1.3 and had a max of 4-6 fits that i use constantly now that i'm going to have four suits this is what i would need.
Silent you must be
Or die you will
From True scout a kind message
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mollerz
2791
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Posted - 2014.03.16 22:04:00 -
[11314] - Quote
Hey llast- that was your alt I was brawling with yesterday? Good fights! I couldn't get my team over the hump at the end :) good game.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2450
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Posted - 2014.03.16 22:12:00 -
[11315] - Quote
mollerz wrote:Hey llast- that was your alt I was brawling with yesterday? Good fights! I couldn't get my team over the hump at the end :) good game.
Not for lack of trying though, you were Force. But you can only do so much. I think my team was spamming some tanks ta boot 
Watched you leap over that wall to dice the guy at the turret
It was awesome Minja action. You looked like you were flying 
KRRROOOOOOM
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
757
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Posted - 2014.03.16 22:45:00 -
[11316] - Quote
Bayeth Mal wrote:
I swear some people carry injectors to be able to tell where NOT to go...
"oh, somebody died over there, better stay clear, could be dangerous"
Correct. One of my fits has an injector for exactly that reason. I think of it as passive death vision 
Knowledge is power
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mollerz
2791
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Posted - 2014.03.16 23:32:00 -
[11317] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:mollerz wrote:Hey llast- that was your alt I was brawling with yesterday? Good fights! I couldn't get my team over the hump at the end :) good game. Not for lack of trying though, you were Force. But you can only do so much. I think my team was spamming some tanks ta boot Watched you leap over that wall to dice the guy at the turret It was awesome Minja action. You looked like you were flying
I remembered getting eviscerated by you shortly after :D
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2452
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Posted - 2014.03.16 23:34:00 -
[11318] - Quote
mollerz wrote:Llast 326 wrote:mollerz wrote:Hey llast- that was your alt I was brawling with yesterday? Good fights! I couldn't get my team over the hump at the end :) good game. Not for lack of trying though, you were Force. But you can only do so much. I think my team was spamming some tanks ta boot Watched you leap over that wall to dice the guy at the turret It was awesome Minja action. You looked like you were flying I remembered getting eviscerated by you shortly after :D
Well I did see you
I had to say hello
KRRROOOOOOM
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
104
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Posted - 2014.03.17 00:15:00 -
[11319] - Quote
all these people whining about the amarr scout are starting to annoy meGǪ.
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
5129
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Posted - 2014.03.17 00:23:00 -
[11320] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:So 8 melee kills in one ambush Kept going into NK range with my SG, one shot then melee. No Myro, just pure 80hp Gal scout melee goodness
this is why we get along.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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One Eyed King
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
621
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Posted - 2014.03.17 00:24:00 -
[11321] - Quote
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:all these people whining about the amarr scout are starting to annoy meGǪ.
For once, something that is very succinct and that I can totally agree with.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8297
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Posted - 2014.03.17 00:25:00 -
[11322] - Quote
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:all these people whining about the amarr scout are starting to annoy meGǪ.
When you provide evidence and numerical proof your are right perhaps we might revise our position. As of yet you have not and your argument lacks substance except that is of "I AM A SCOUT SO....."
" ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters"
- Malleus Malificorum
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
115
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Posted - 2014.03.17 01:23:00 -
[11323] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:all these people whining about the amarr scout are starting to annoy meGǪ. When you provide evidence and numerical proof your are right perhaps we might revise our position. As of yet you have not and your argument lacks substance except that is of "I AM A SCOUT SO....."
i have not yet provided an argument, therefore, your entire post is null.
If you do want an argument, however, 3x kin cats, 1x profile damper, 2x extenders, adv cloak, proto quantum scanner, shotgun and flay lock. I will be running it in 1.8. It, quite literally, is better than a minmitar fit because it can fit nice things, like a cloak and proto scanner. its fast, has higher HP than a gallente, is well dampened, and has nice things like equipment and weapons. Stamina too, which is>minmitar stamina
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
761
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Posted - 2014.03.17 01:29:00 -
[11324] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:all these people whining about the amarr scout are starting to annoy meGǪ. When you provide evidence and numerical proof your are right perhaps we might revise our position. As of yet you have not and your argument lacks substance except that is of "I AM A SCOUT SO....."
Spreadsheets dont make a suit. The Minmatar scout, on paper, looks terrible. But it performs in the field.
The Amarr scout, to my eye, looks like it will excel in specific areas while the slot layout allows it to perform reasonably across the board. Particularlary as scouts now have an appropraite baseline to work from (lowered scan profile, higher scan precision and scan radius).
You may not agree, and that's fine. But making selective comparisons and calling it evidence doesn't make you right either.
Knowledge is power
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8302
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Posted - 2014.03.17 01:42:00 -
[11325] - Quote
Brokerib wrote:True Adamance wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:all these people whining about the amarr scout are starting to annoy meGǪ. When you provide evidence and numerical proof your are right perhaps we might revise our position. As of yet you have not and your argument lacks substance except that is of "I AM A SCOUT SO....." Spreadsheets dont make a suit. The Minmatar scout, on paper, looks terrible. But it performs in the field. The Amarr scout, to my eye, looks like it will excel in specific areas while the slot layout allows it to perform reasonably across the board. Particularlary as scouts now have an appropraite baseline to work from (lowered scan profile, higher scan precision and scan radius). You may not agree, and that's fine. But making selective comparisons and calling it evidence doesn't make you right either.
I'm not saying I am.....I also wont use the suit....so really have not stake in this.
But proof of something trumps gut feeling/ pure speculation any day.
" ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters"
- Malleus Malificorum
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1542
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Posted - 2014.03.17 01:45:00 -
[11326] - Quote
Brokerib wrote:True Adamance wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:all these people whining about the amarr scout are starting to annoy meGǪ. When you provide evidence and numerical proof your are right perhaps we might revise our position. As of yet you have not and your argument lacks substance except that is of "I AM A SCOUT SO....." Spreadsheets dont make a suit. The Minmatar scout, on paper, looks terrible. But it performs in the field. The Amarr scout, to my eye, looks like it will excel in specific areas while the slot layout allows it to perform reasonably across the board. Particularlary as scouts now have an appropraite baseline to work from (lowered scan profile, higher scan precision and scan radius). You may not agree, and that's fine. But making selective comparisons and calling it evidence doesn't make you right either.
But their bonus isn't fair!
Minmatar get 2 bonuses! Caldari get 2 bonuses! Gallente get 2 bonuses! Amarr gets 1!
It isn't fair, Brokerib!
Honestly though, the Amarr Scout seems like the Mario/Human of the Scouts. Balanced around being average and not excelling at anything "Scoutly."
It can basically do anything almost as well as the specialized suit. It's the Light-Medium hybrid suit. Rather than complaining about balanced it is just really dull and no incentive to skill into it other than Racial Role Playing reasons
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com (checked every Monday/Wednesday/Friday)
AKA Nappia AKA Mathppia
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
116
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Posted - 2014.03.17 01:48:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Brokerib wrote:True Adamance wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:all these people whining about the amarr scout are starting to annoy meGǪ. When you provide evidence and numerical proof your are right perhaps we might revise our position. As of yet you have not and your argument lacks substance except that is of "I AM A SCOUT SO....." Spreadsheets dont make a suit. The Minmatar scout, on paper, looks terrible. But it performs in the field. The Amarr scout, to my eye, looks like it will excel in specific areas while the slot layout allows it to perform reasonably across the board. Particularlary as scouts now have an appropraite baseline to work from (lowered scan profile, higher scan precision and scan radius). You may not agree, and that's fine. But making selective comparisons and calling it evidence doesn't make you right either. But their bonus isn't fair! Minmatar get 2 bonuses! Caldari get 2 bonuses! Gallente get 2 bonuses! Amarr gets 1! It isn't fair, Brokerib! Honestly though, the Amarr Scout seems like the Mario/Human of the Scouts. Balanced around being average and not excelling at anything "Scoutly." It can basically do anything almost as well as the specialized suit. It's the Light-Medium hybrid suit. Rather than complaining about balanced it is just really dull and no incentive to skill into it other than Racial Role Playing reasons
3x kincats, 1x damp, 2x shields, shotgun, and flay lock with a proto quantum scanner say otherwise
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
762
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Posted - 2014.03.17 01:51:00 -
[11328] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Brokerib wrote:True Adamance wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:all these people whining about the amarr scout are starting to annoy meGǪ. When you provide evidence and numerical proof your are right perhaps we might revise our position. As of yet you have not and your argument lacks substance except that is of "I AM A SCOUT SO....." Spreadsheets dont make a suit. The Minmatar scout, on paper, looks terrible. But it performs in the field. The Amarr scout, to my eye, looks like it will excel in specific areas while the slot layout allows it to perform reasonably across the board. Particularlary as scouts now have an appropraite baseline to work from (lowered scan profile, higher scan precision and scan radius). You may not agree, and that's fine. But making selective comparisons and calling it evidence doesn't make you right either. I'm not saying I am.....I also wont use the suit....so really have not stake in this. But proof of something trumps gut feeling/ pure speculation any day.
Agreed, but we're not being provided with proof. We're being provided with selective comparisions and emotive arguments.
I also wouldn't discount gut feeling just because it can't be measured in a spreadsheet. I run the Minmatar scout because I'm a loyalist and because it's fun. Not because it's the best suit in the game.
Knowledge is power
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1543
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Posted - 2014.03.17 01:56:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:
3x kincats, 1x damp, 2x shields, shotgun, and flay lock with a proto quantum scanner say otherwise
Um, what?
You just agreed with me there. It has no theme of it's own. It can mimic other because of CPU/PG and slot layout but it lacks anything unique. and with minmatar's new released stamina regen stat this won't have the stamina+regen to keep up despite have a high base speed and base stamina. if you want speed+shield tank. It is the best all-rounder suit. No theme, no specialization. It can jsut do everything fairly well.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com (checked every Monday/Wednesday/Friday)
AKA Nappia AKA Mathppia
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
116
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Posted - 2014.03.17 02:04:00 -
[11330] - Quote
Appia Vibbia wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:
3x kincats, 1x damp, 2x shields, shotgun, and flay lock with a proto quantum scanner say otherwise
Um, what? You just agreed with me there. It has no theme of it's own. It can mimic other because of CPU/PG and slot layout but it lacks anything unique. and with minmatar's new released stamina regen stat this won't have the stamina+regen to keep up despite have a high base speed and base stamina. if you want speed+shield tank. It is the best all-rounder suit. No theme, no specialization. It can jsut do everything fairly well. it's the second best at everything. which is really powerful, but so very boring in a class that is about specialization.
wait, what are these newly released stats? can anyone show me where they got them?
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
763
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Posted - 2014.03.17 02:06:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:
3x kincats, 1x damp, 2x shields, shotgun, and flay lock with a proto quantum scanner say otherwise
Um, what? You just agreed with me there. It has no theme of it's own. It can mimic other because of CPU/PG and slot layout but it lacks anything unique. and with minmatar's new released stamina regen stat this won't have the stamina+regen to keep up despite have a high base speed and base stamina. if you want speed+shield tank. It is the best all-rounder suit. No theme, no specialization. It can jsut do everything fairly well.
I think you might be right actually Appia. It's a solid suit, but doesn't have a specific flavour, aside from the relentless stamina angle.
The Amarr scout is by no means terrible, and could be very effective when fitted apprporaitely. But it is dull. And scouts shouldn't be dull.
How about, just to give it some flare, +5% damage per level to plasma cannon? I know it's not an Amarr weapon and all, but that would certainly make it stand out
Though in all seriousness, I think the stam bonus should be changed to +5% to max/+10% to regen per level. Their regen rate has gone from the best to the worst because of the max stam increase, and that was one of the selling points of the suit to my mind.
I'd also like to see a 0.2 base speed increase for all scouts, so the Amarr are clearly faster than the Mini Assault while retaining the current speed heirarchy.
Knowledge is power
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
763
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Posted - 2014.03.17 02:07:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:
3x kincats, 1x damp, 2x shields, shotgun, and flay lock with a proto quantum scanner say otherwise
Um, what? You just agreed with me there. It has no theme of it's own. It can mimic other because of CPU/PG and slot layout but it lacks anything unique. and with minmatar's new released stamina regen stat this won't have the stamina+regen to keep up despite have a high base speed and base stamina. if you want speed+shield tank. It is the best all-rounder suit. No theme, no specialization. It can jsut do everything fairly well. it's the second best at everything. which is really powerful, but so very boring in a class that is about specialization. wait, what are these newly released stats? can anyone show me where they got them?
Down the bottom here Gav.
http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/dropsuits-of-uprising-1.8/
Knowledge is power
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
116
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Posted - 2014.03.17 02:08:00 -
[11333] - Quote
Brokerib wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:
3x kincats, 1x damp, 2x shields, shotgun, and flay lock with a proto quantum scanner say otherwise
Um, what? You just agreed with me there. It has no theme of it's own. It can mimic other because of CPU/PG and slot layout but it lacks anything unique. and with minmatar's new released stamina regen stat this won't have the stamina+regen to keep up despite have a high base speed and base stamina. if you want speed+shield tank. It is the best all-rounder suit. No theme, no specialization. It can jsut do everything fairly well. I think you might be right actually Appia. It's a solid suit, but doesn't have a specific flavour, aside from the relentless stamina angle. The Amarr scout is by no means terrible, and could be very effective when fitted apprporaitely. But it is dull. And scouts shouldn't be dull. How about, just to give it some flare, +5% damage per level to plasma cannon? I know it's not an Amarr weapon and all, but that would certainly make it stand out Though in all seriousness, I think the stam bonus should be changed to +5% to max/+10% to regen per level. Their regen rate has gone from the best to the worst because of the max stam increase, and that was one of the selling points of the suit to my mind. I'd also like to see a 0.2 base speed increase for all scouts, so the Amarr are clearly faster than the Mini Assault while retaining the current speed heirarchy.
yeah i misread what Appia was saying lolGǪi thought she was saying it was worse than every other scout suitGǪ.but i agree with Brokerib here for the bonus, it does need more than 5%. Also, instead of a .2 increase, make it a % increase so that the tiny advantage the minmitar has isn't made even smaller
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
116
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Posted - 2014.03.17 02:10:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:
3x kincats, 1x damp, 2x shields, shotgun, and flay lock with a proto quantum scanner say otherwise
Um, what? You just agreed with me there. It has no theme of it's own. It can mimic other because of CPU/PG and slot layout but it lacks anything unique. and with minmatar's new released stamina regen stat this won't have the stamina+regen to keep up despite have a high base speed and base stamina. if you want speed+shield tank. It is the best all-rounder suit. No theme, no specialization. It can jsut do everything fairly well. it's the second best at everything. which is really powerful, but so very boring in a class that is about specialization. wait, what are these newly released stats? can anyone show me where they got them? Down the bottom here Gav. http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/dropsuits-of-uprising-1.8/
thanks
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1543
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Posted - 2014.03.17 02:13:00 -
[11335] - Quote
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:
3x kincats, 1x damp, 2x shields, shotgun, and flay lock with a proto quantum scanner say otherwise
Um, what? You just agreed with me there. It has no theme of it's own. It can mimic other because of CPU/PG and slot layout but it lacks anything unique. and with minmatar's new released stamina regen stat this won't have the stamina+regen to keep up despite have a high base speed and base stamina. if you want speed+shield tank. It is the best all-rounder suit. No theme, no specialization. It can jsut do everything fairly well. it's the second best at everything. which is really powerful, but so very boring in a class that is about specialization. wait, what are these newly released stats? can anyone show me where they got them?
http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65875/1/scouts18.jpg
https://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/dropsuits-of-uprising-1.8/
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com (checked every Monday/Wednesday/Friday)
AKA Nappia AKA Mathppia
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1543
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Posted - 2014.03.17 02:33:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:
yeah i misread what Appia was saying lolGǪi thought she was saying it was worse than every other scout suitGǪ.but i agree with Brokerib here for the bonus, it does need more than 5%. Also, instead of a .2 increase, make it a % increase so that the tiny advantage the minmitar has isn't made even smaller
Ugh. there's like a 3 minute delay when posting on the DUST514 forums for me right now. Not for other sites of forums thoug  
There's still this magical, mystical problem with processing speeds that stops scouts from going faster than 11.11m/s without breaking the game.
I think you;d need to remove the kincat or biotics skill bonus before we can adjust the speed of the scouts.
Too tired to run the numbers of what you could modify it too, but the only other option that that is to reduce the sprint modifier from 1.4 to something less.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com (checked every Monday/Wednesday/Friday)
AKA Nappia AKA Mathppia
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4576
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Posted - 2014.03.17 03:24:00 -
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If minmitar medium is faster than amarr scout, shouldn't the minmitar heavy be faster than the amarr medium?
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
765
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Posted - 2014.03.17 03:48:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:If minmitar medium is faster than amarr scout, shouldn't the minmitar heavy be faster than the amarr medium?
Hillarious! By turn, can we make Minmatar installations faster than the Amarr heavy?
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Appia Nappia
Nos Nothi
375
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Posted - 2014.03.17 03:51:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:If minmitar medium is faster than amarr scout, shouldn't the minmitar heavy be faster than the amarr medium?
Hillarious! By turn, can we make Minmatar installations faster than the Amarr heavy?
Minmatar Surface Installations are covered in a sleek oil coating to keep the rusty parts from grinding together, thereby increase speeds of all suits on them by 10% at the cost of adding inertia and being unable to stop until you hit a wall
Secretly Appia Vibbia
If you can read my signature... I'm on the wrong alt.
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
121
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Posted - 2014.03.17 04:23:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:
yeah i misread what Appia was saying lolGǪi thought she was saying it was worse than every other scout suitGǪ.but i agree with Brokerib here for the bonus, it does need more than 5%. Also, instead of a .2 increase, make it a % increase so that the tiny advantage the minmitar has isn't made even smaller
Ugh. there's like a 3 minute delay when posting on the DUST514 forums for me right now. Not for other sites of forums thoug There's still this magical, mystical problem with processing speeds that stops scouts from going faster than 11.11m/s without breaking the game. I think you;d need to remove the kincat or biotics skill bonus before we can adjust the speed of the scouts. Too tired to run the numbers of what you could modify it too, but the only other option that that is to reduce the sprint modifier from 1.4 to something less.
or just change biotics skill to movement speed insteadGǪi think that'd work
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