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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
2316
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Posted - 2014.03.05 22:32:00 -
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Driftward wrote:Also, anyone notice how logis lost ZERO fitting capability? You know so that they can still fit....anything they want to? And including ....a cloak..... or as appia suggested. Everything eWAR under the sun.
pretty ******..... They lost zero fittings? They have the same CPU and PG as 1.7?
I can't really be arsed to look at all the stats but if that is the case, it's horrendous. They get fittings bonuses to all equipment (bar cloaks) and they already have so much fittings capability as it is, so if this is true, they'll be able to fit pretty much anything they want. We're talking all complex mods, proto weapon and equipment with probably even enough left over to run a cloak!
I really hope this isn't true.
Edit - Oh dear CCP, oh dear...
CCP Logibro wrote:I would like to add that at this stage, we have not rebalanced the slots and PG/CPU for the medium frames yet, and it doesn't look like we'll be able to get it into 1.8. Expect those changes to come at a later date.
Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot
Scout community is the nuts
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voidfaction
Void of Faction
168
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Posted - 2014.03.05 22:37:00 -
[10832] - Quote
Appia Vibbia wrote:**** balls **** crap motherfucking bitches http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/DUST/Medium_Frames.pngLogistics just got a buff.+5m to scan range and -5 to Scan Precision. They now have the same Scan Precision as Scouts. My Gallente Logistics suit is now better at finding Scouts than my Gallente Scout. 3 complex precision enhancers, 3 complex range amplifiers 2 complex armor plates. 700 total HP, Scan Radius of around 60 meters and a scan precision of 23 and change, more than likely rounded up to 24dB *Appia walks away from the computer to rage about how her Gal-Logi is a better scout and her Gal-Scout*
gallente scout has never been the scout hunter. that role was given to the caldari scout. logistics was always able to get better precision than a scout. caldari scout changes that.
new logi precision changes noting for me because my uncloaked profile will be 17.72db logi will still need to use 2 complex dampeners uncloaked to hide from my 26.77db precision. my cloak will be better. my range will be better.
the changes will not effect my gallente scout playstyle.
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Patrick57
5771
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Posted - 2014.03.05 22:45:00 -
[10833] - Quote
Django Quik wrote:Driftward wrote:Also, anyone notice how logis lost ZERO fitting capability? You know so that they can still fit....anything they want to? And including ....a cloak..... or as appia suggested. Everything eWAR under the sun.
pretty ******..... They lost zero fittings? They have the same CPU and PG as 1.7? I can't really be arsed to look at all the stats but if that is the case, it's horrendous. They get fittings bonuses to all equipment (bar cloaks) and they already have so much fittings capability as it is, so if this is true, they'll be able to fit pretty much anything they want. We're talking all complex mods, proto weapon and equipment with probably even enough left over to run a cloak! I really hope this isn't true. Edit - Oh dear CCP, oh dear... CCP Logibro wrote:I would like to add that at this stage, we have not rebalanced the slots and PG/CPU for the medium frames yet, and it doesn't look like we'll be able to get it into 1.8. Expect those changes to come at a later date. The problem with Logis is the natural 5 hp/s and the insanely high CPU/PG. One of those is fixed, but who ******* knows how long it'll take CCP to get the stats right....in any case, Logis can still rule the battlefield, especially Gallente Logis.
Zatara hates me :(
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mollerz
2625
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Posted - 2014.03.05 22:58:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote: I agree with Haerr, Just to throw something in on the liar component though Mollerz. (Sorry Appia, I am not saying that this is your reality) Biological Sex is different from gender Your gender can be different from your biological sex (transgender) Sexual orientation is separate from both (but related) Your biological sex can be different from your gender identity and you can be attracted to people of the same gender and/or sex.
People do identify as different genders and are straight, gay, or even not sexually attracted to anyone at all. I never worry about the realities that people present in this context. They are who the feel they are. Appia may or may not be lying about who she is and it really does not make any difference.
The opinions she expresses, the way she expresses them, her thoughts she shares, these are what makes Appia who she is.
Woah.. That is not what I am talking about. I was talking about her issues with a few players and their behavior, and then turning around and manufacturing said behavior with an ALt. That is extremely shady to me. That is the only thing I had a problem with.
To what you mentioned, I live in SF. I've seen everything, been friends with every situation, and you wouldn't believe some of the parties I've been to I'm extremely tolerant, and would never put anyone down for being themselves. I think the world needs a lot more diversity. It makes it a fun place. My apologies to Appia if what I said was construed in any other way o7
Anyways, how bout them magsecs, eh?
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Asha Starwind
DUST University Ivy League
457
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:03:00 -
[10835] - Quote
This weeks SP should pay for mine
32db Mad Bomber.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2200
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:07:00 -
[10836] - Quote
MagsecGǪ looks neat Going Ion Pistol on this account though.
KRRROOOOOOM
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mollerz
2626
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:11:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote: Rule of thumb: When sending a GG to someone you don't know or don't know well, "GG" in the subject with a blank body is taken as gloating in a lot of the vet community. "GG" in the subject and a short little sentence like "nice kill at [location]" "that was a close match :)" or something like that adds sincerity.
OH I never just send a GG.
But when I stab the fuk out of someone in an awesome way...
they get the GG and the (:...[=\===> in the message
The Ugly and I were running around a match and kept running into the same knifer over and over while trying to hold an objective on the redline border. It was crazy.. heavies and med suits kept coming out of the woodworks along with said knifer. In exasperation, The Ugly left the objective to search the surrounding area for a drop uplink and he said he could hear but he couldn't find it. I got knifed in the back just as I capped the CRU, and we had lost the objective due to the nonstop reds marching through. I couldn't even knife fight the knifer, I had to shoot him down and move onto heavies it was so contested. I barely got back into the CRU before it turned then took out two heavies and The Ugly got back and took out the knifer.. he was only knife fighting tho. Finally, Ugly is like, man... I bet they are spawning off that red LAV parking lot that had amassed outside the door. So we hacked them and the madness finally stopped. We took an LAV and low and behold, here comes knifer boy. Ugly jumps out of the car and slashes him down again. After the match I was like man, I feel bad for that knifer let's send him some salute messages and encouragement. So we both sent him some messages...
It was Maken Tosch on an ALT! Was an awesome match. 10/10 would do again.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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voidfaction
Void of Faction
169
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:13:00 -
[10838] - Quote
I want the silenced magsec now :( want a silencer for my tac ar since it got nerfed.
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mollerz
2626
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:14:00 -
[10839] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:MagsecGǪ looks neat Going Ion Pistol on this account though.
I'm super bummed the flaylock got no love whatsoever.
I am thinking MD + knives might be a fun combo.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2202
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:21:00 -
[10840] - Quote
mollerz wrote:Llast 326 wrote:MagsecGǪ looks neat Going Ion Pistol on this account though. I'm super bummed the flaylock got no love whatsoever. I am thinking MD + knives might be a fun combo. I know, still going to keep running my Flaylock/Nova Knife on my minja pirate, but I really was looking for a minor buff to direct damage on the FLGǪ Oh well i could make it work before, I'll make it work now since I won't be insta melted now it might actually be easier.
KRRROOOOOOM
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mollerz
2627
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:25:00 -
[10841] - Quote
I've been running around in a dragonly fly with a CR and GN-20 flaylock. it's been pretty fun It's particularily funny to see people panic and run form the flaylock volley. It must be some prenerf PTSD still haunting some.
Fly heavy FLY!!!
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2202
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:47:00 -
[10842] - Quote
This is an official request for Mathppia, or Haerrimatic On the new totals for Damage mods and efficacy. (Drift, Mr. Registry, and also Quill feel free to shoot out numbers as well, I just could not think of math related nicknames for you)
KRRROOOOOOM
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2202
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Posted - 2014.03.05 23:55:00 -
[10843] - Quote
Interesting response about the changes to Med frames
CCP Logibro wrote:Unfortunately we didn't get a chance to redo the slots and PG/CPU for all the medium frames in Uprising 1.8. Expect those changes to come in a future update.
KRRROOOOOOM
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Appia Nappia
Nos Nothi
319
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:39:00 -
[10844] - Quote
mollerz wrote:they get the GG and the (:...[=\===> in the message
I... um... Oh, my, gods! This... This message.
Secretly Appia Vibbia
If you can read my signature... I'm on the wrong alt.
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Appia Nappia
Nos Nothi
320
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:55:00 -
[10845] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:This is an official request for Mathppia, or Haerrithmatic On the new totals for Damage mods and efficacy. (Drift, Mr. Registry, Oswald and also Quill feel free to shoot out numbers as well, I just could not think of math related nicknames for you)
ATM RoF is not released for the pistols but Ion Pistol is gonna be so terrible. ScP already fires as fast as you can pull the trigger so even if Ion Pistol has higher RoF it won't fire any faster. And higher head shot damage, and loner range. 55 (Ion) vs 88 (ScP)
Will do main 4 after PC
Secretly Appia Vibbia
If you can read my signature... I'm on the wrong alt.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2207
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Posted - 2014.03.06 00:59:00 -
[10846] - Quote
Appia Nappia wrote:mollerz wrote:they get the GG and the (:...[=\===> in the message I... um... Oh, my, gods! This... This message. You are so using this now aren't you
KRRROOOOOOM
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1382
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Posted - 2014.03.06 01:23:00 -
[10847] - Quote
You Bastards amaze me when it comes to conflict resolution. Consistently.
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Asha Starwind
DUST University Ivy League
458
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Posted - 2014.03.06 01:24:00 -
[10848] - Quote
Suggested Changes regarding the nearly Untouchable gal scout: yay or nay?
- Nerf Duvolle Focused from 20dB to 24db(18db on gallogi)
This way Gallente scout can still beat it with 1 Complex damp.
- Nerf Gallente Scout from 5% to 2% dampening per level
Sets up and an escalation of mods scenario between Gal Scout and Cal Scout.
__Gal Scout (10%)_I_____Cal Scout_____I 0 damp = 28.35 dB_I__0 prec = 30.4 dB__I 1 damp = 21.26 dB_I__1 prec = 24.3 dB__I 2 damp = 16.11 dB_I__2 prec = 20.1 dB__I
Cal can't beat Gal Scout mod for mod but requires the same number of quality mods + 1 additional precision mod in order to do so
32db Mad Bomber.
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Patrick57
5780
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Posted - 2014.03.06 01:26:00 -
[10849] - Quote
Scout Registry wrote:You Bastards amaze me when it comes to conflict resolution. Consistently.
I was going to say something along the lines of "WHAT DID YOU CALL ME?!", but then I realized that I have resolved any conflict here.
Carry on. |
Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
1384
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Posted - 2014.03.06 02:28:00 -
[10850] - Quote
Patrick57 wrote:Scout Registry wrote:You Bastards amaze me when it comes to conflict resolution. Consistently.
I was going to say something along the lines of "WHAT DID YOU CALL ME?!", but then I realized that I have resolved any conflict here. Carry on.
The label of Bastard applies to Scouts. On this count, you needn't concern yourself :-) |
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Patrick57
5794
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Posted - 2014.03.06 02:32:00 -
[10851] - Quote
Scout Registry wrote:The label of Bastard applies to Scouts. On this count, you needn't concern yourself :-) You just had to go there didn't you.
Aren't you supposed to be babysitting me? WHY ARE YOU TEACHING ME THESE FOUL WORDS?! |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
2211
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Posted - 2014.03.06 03:22:00 -
[10852] - Quote
Patrick57 wrote:Scout Registry wrote:The label of Bastard applies to Scouts. On this count, you needn't concern yourself :-) You just had to go there didn't you. Aren't you supposed to be babysitting me? WHY ARE YOU TEACHING ME THESE FOUL WORDS?! I've been called a bastard my whole life It's not a foul word, it's an honour
KRRROOOOOOM
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
654
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Posted - 2014.03.06 03:22:00 -
[10853] - Quote
Wow, some interesting changes in the dev blog.
Some quick thoughts...
The CR gets extra nerfed on top of the damage reduction due to limitations on ammo. It's going to take more than a clip to down a heavy, and without skill investment you can only carry 6 clips.
Reduction in grenades carried directly effects AV capability.
Proto damage mods are no longer worth stacking past 2 units, which is a reasonable change, and appear to affect both shields and armor equally, which increases their perceived usefulness due to the changes to the proficiency skill.
However, if PG/CPU don't change along with them, proto mods take a substantial hit in usability. Three standard damage mods give almost the same damage enhancement as 2 proto mods, while costing as much PG/CPU as one proto module.
TTK changes from this will be almost inconsequential to scouts. Will still take about a 1/3 of a clip from a CR to down a standard (300EHP) scout, which can be done in less than half a second. But it's going to be much more difficult for scouts to output enough alpha damage to kill medium or heavy targets quickly enough to avoid being mowed down.
LR might actually be worth a try if the other rifle changes have gone too far, along with the mass driver.
Nova Knife is the best overall weapon in regards to the skill changes, as proficiency continues to applies directly, and the knives themselves have a balanced damage profile.
If there's a respec, I have no idea what I'm doing anymore...might be running my scrambler pistol/NK fit as my main...
Knowledge is power
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2211
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Posted - 2014.03.06 03:29:00 -
[10854] - Quote
The effect of TTK is why scouts have traditionally gravitate towards Alpha Damage weapons. This is why changing the SG proficiency concerns me (if this is in fact changing and not a typo/oversight in the Devblog) Going from speed change to higher Shield damage seems to be counterproductive to scouts.
Edit: I mentioned the SG in a post Please remain calm
KRRROOOOOOM
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icdedppul
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
80
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Posted - 2014.03.06 03:57:00 -
[10855] - Quote
yeah increased TTK is a scout nerf
scouts + 1.8 + and ICs take on it so far
CCP - So heres a cloak IC - uh thanks? I didnt really want a cloak I just wanted enough fittings to make the most of my limited slots CCP - btw were taking your side arm.. have fun using the KNs now IC - WHAAAT???!!? IC - ??????? IC - ...... sigh .... CCP - so there were some behind doors favors exchanged and we now realize that the scout sucks and since we have nerfed the cloak to beyond any usefulness except to move, which you will shimmer when you do, here's some stuff to say sorry for what we have done to you so far IC - OMG I'm going to be ridiculous, thank you CCP, I can like this update a lot more now .... .... .... .... .... CCP - oh incidentally you know how we made your suit geared towards a cloak then nerfed the cloak before it even came out just so you could sneak up on people... well were now going to make it take longer to kill those people so they have more of a chance to turn around and shoot you IC - there's the kick in the balls you usually give me every update, thanks I was missing it CCP - NP we like to stay consistent
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
655
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Posted - 2014.03.06 03:57:00 -
[10856] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:The effect of TTK is why scouts have traditionally gravitate towards Alpha Damage weapons. This is why changing the SG proficiency concerns me (if this is in fact changing and not a typo/oversight in the Devblog) Going from speed change to higher Shield damage seems to be counterproductive to scouts. Edit: I mentioned the SG in a post Please remain calm **** you Llast. Mention SGs again and I'll **** your ***** until ****** is ******* to ****** my ******* ******* ***** hamburger meat..
Knowledge is power
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icdedppul
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
81
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Posted - 2014.03.06 03:59:00 -
[10857] - Quote
and on a looking forward note
probably going to run dual pistols a lot more now
scrambler/bolt pistol combo |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3303
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Posted - 2014.03.06 04:20:00 -
[10858] - Quote
Brokerib wrote:Llast 326 wrote:The effect of TTK is why scouts have traditionally gravitate towards Alpha Damage weapons. This is why changing the SG proficiency concerns me (if this is in fact changing and not a typo/oversight in the Devblog) Going from speed change to higher Shield damage seems to be counterproductive to scouts. Edit: I mentioned the SG in a post Please remain calm **** you Llast. Mention SGs again and I'll **** your ***** until ****** is ******* to ****** my ******* ******* ***** hamburger meat..
**** ** ** **** ** * * ** ** **** ** * *** * ** ** ** ** ** * ASSHOLES ** ** **** ** ** *****
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
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mollerz
2635
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Posted - 2014.03.06 04:30:00 -
[10859] - Quote
Ghost Kaisar wrote:Brokerib wrote:Llast 326 wrote:The effect of TTK is why scouts have traditionally gravitate towards Alpha Damage weapons. This is why changing the SG proficiency concerns me (if this is in fact changing and not a typo/oversight in the Devblog) Going from speed change to higher Shield damage seems to be counterproductive to scouts. Edit: I mentioned the SG in a post Please remain calm **** you Llast. Mention SGs again and I'll **** your ***** until ****** is ******* to ****** my ******* ******* ***** hamburger meat.. **** ** ** **** ** * * ** ** **** ** * *** * ** ** ** ** ** * ASSHOLES ** ** **** ** ** ***** I like how *assholes* came through lol
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1384
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Posted - 2014.03.06 05:21:00 -
[10860] - Quote
Brokerib wrote:Wow, some interesting changes in the dev blog. Some quick thoughts... The CR gets extra nerfed on top of the damage reduction due to limitations on ammo. It's going to take more than a clip to down a heavy, and without skill investment you can only carry 6 clips. Reduction in grenades carried directly effects AV capability. Proto damage mods are no longer worth stacking past 2 units, which is a reasonable change, and appear to affect both shields and armor equally, which increases their perceived usefulness due to the changes to the proficiency skill. However, if PG/CPU don't change along with them, proto mods take a substantial hit in usability. Three standard damage mods give almost the same damage enhancement as 2 proto mods, while costing as much PG/CPU as one proto module. TTK changes from this will be almost inconsequential to scouts. Will still take about a 1/3 of a clip from a CR to down a standard (300EHP) scout, which can be done in less than half a second. But it's going to be much more difficult for scouts to output enough alpha damage to kill medium or heavy targets quickly enough to avoid being mowed down. LR might actually be worth a try if the other rifle changes have gone too far, along with the mass driver. Nova Knife is the best overall weapon in regards to the skill changes, as proficiency continues to applies directly, and the knives themselves have a balanced damage profile. If there's a respec, I have no idea what I'm doing anymore...might be running my scrambler pistol/NK fit as my main...
damage is taking a 9-15 percent decrease. This is not really all that much. Kinda tired and didn't make teh DPS chart I planned to but it really isn't that bad in a Light vs Medium or Medium vs medium sense... the heavies and their new found resistances though. . . wow they are gonna be so OP
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com (checked every Monday/Wednesday/Friday)
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